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ONLY P4C800 based on 875 have the PAT and at 200MHz sharp.............ALL the others come with a "phseudo-PAT" that gives you a bit BUT they just CAN'T touch the P4C800 on anything........The only board which can touch the P4C800 in performance and be over it, is the ABIT IC7 one.....FULL PAT at whatever frequency you chose.......Sad that they don't make a bios for it so as to support the adapter.....It would be a killer........:)
IMO P4P & P4C have the same performance. :)
Only difference is that 875 can handle 10/11 (110/111) DLP at high FSB.
If you look at new beetle & Cal930's P4P testing you will see they were able to use 11 DLP at 240 and 267 w/ P4P. (seeing their scores) [it is a deduction]
I dunno how they can. :/ I had not an answer from them.
But as i said before IMO DLP is the guilty.
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/M24GP/M24GP.html
Ciao
hipro5 is right, P4C can also handle higher FSB than P4P.
anyone got a new to mint stock ct-479 cooler sitting on the floor?
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Originally Posted by justthinking
Guys, help my out!
Now - you have got to help me. I simply just dont get it!!!
Whenever I set Dram as 333, Clockgen works like a charm - I can get 215 fsb before my memory hits 270 (and gets unstable). But whenever I set Dram to 266 (to get 1:1, right?), my system locks up at approx 202 fsb. WHY IS THAT?????
This is regardless of which timings i use.
Why can't I run 1:1 ??? Have i forgot something in my bios setup? Should I get another bios (flashed with p4p800se bios 1011)?
Dothan 770
P4P800-E dlx (with P4P800SE bios 1011)
2x512 GeiL Ultra PC 4200 3-4-4-8
Please tell me, if you need more specific information. Also, if you use another bios.
Please help - i'm getting desperate. I've been trying to figure this out for more than 14 hours now :(.
If you boot under 200fsb those settings multiply the ram up, eg 266fsb gives ddr400 when set to 333.If yo boot 200fsb or more you can set the ram to run ddr400 at 1/1 or if over 20ofsb then those numbers become dividers clocking the memory down, eg 250fsb gives you ddr400 when set to 320.
Edit: I just saw some of your other posts, You are booting below 200 to get full pat? I dont think that memorey can take full pat much over 200fsb.Try tighter timings or more vdimm.
got the pat working now. systool did the trick - clockgen was the one making my system freeze.
i can get fsb 213-215 - 2750-2800 mhz in 1:1, superpi at 26 secs. Vcore is 1,4v - think any higher will make temps go 50+ (im on stock cooling).
So - anyone knows of a waterblock, that will fit without modding ???
Ok you really confused me now!!! I'm going to go tweak this but your saying if I boot at 199, with mem set at 333 (I have DDR500) that raising it to the FSB I normally run at of 230, will net in excess of DDR400? I'm confused on what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Anyhow going to go play with that setting some for shytes and giggles
I thought if you set mem to 400, you got 1:1 so as I increased FSB to 230, my Memory OC'd to 460... or am I missing something?
Yes if you set your mem to 400 it gives 1/1 but if you boot at 199 with mem at 333 you get a 4/5 ratio cpu/mem.Ill show screenshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunin
Why not boot at 199 with memory set at auto? That way you will have 1:1 with tightest timings possible.
Does 199 and auto give you 1/1?And do you get full pat?Quote:
Originally Posted by malkekoen
Heres the screen at 199 and 333.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...43809409TdBZbb
Yes, 199 and auto gives me full pat and 1:1. This is the only way I can get 1:1. Both 266 and 333 gives Sisoft mem bandwidth gives approx 4900-5000 at 2-2-2-5.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Doing this also sets your DDR at nearly DDR500, so you might want to loosen those mem timings if you try this... (experience dictates you will see many bsod if you don't!)Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Well...... i would't loosen timings that much. been playing around with it, and tight timings actully gives me a better superpi time than a high fsb. my best setting (so far with stock cooling) is fsb 215, Dram auto (1:1), vcore 1,4, timings 2-2-2-5, whick gives a cpu speed of just under 2800. I'm booting at 199 (not 200 because I have an ATI graphics card).
Please post your settings too.
And by the way - i have had more than 40 bsods getting this far :)...
My DDR500 would run at 460 at 2,3,3,5Quote:
Originally Posted by malkekoen
with uping to 500, I had to go the spec'd 3,4,4,8 to start with... now I'm playing with max FSB for stability with these new timings!
I killed some TCC5 on this mb that did 6-3-3-2 at 255fsb on 2.85V, The spd thingy might fix it ut I dont have another mb setup right now to fix them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunin
Hi, Here is my CT-479 mod :rolleyes:
http://misokgb.szm.sk/ct-479/1.jpg
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LOL I did something very similar, but I just ended up removing the big plastic socket and bending the pins some 70degrees and the result is the same
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Originally Posted by hipro5
Sorry to challenge this, but I've easily manage to enable full-PAT - or at least something that ctiaw says it is - on P4P800SE - with the normal P4P8X bios trick with setting the FSB at 133 and memory at 266 before each flash. I've competed then head-to-head with a IC7 at 285MHz 1:1 (it won't even boot with other memory divisors) and had a bit better results with the Asus in unbuffered memory benchmarks. I might agree that it is not PAT, but there is definitely something that works better.
Beleave me.....There is NO WAY to beat ABIT IC7 with even the ASUS P4C800E-Deluxe(full PAT-Turbo).....Try to play with the IC7 at:Quote:
Originally Posted by caligula
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and at 1:1 with 2 x BH-x ram modules and you'll remember me.....;)
My PM 730 watercool and no Mods!:sofa:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/854...kord2ke.th.jpg
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Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
wow
highest 730 I've seen on conventional cooling - well done :clap:
Impressive indeed, you using a RAMDISK or any software tweaks to get those numbers, ur nearly a secod faster than me for the same settings :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
not badQuote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
My watercooled (but water -12), full of mods (CT, mobo)
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7...23s484b2zg.jpg
I'm quite happy with my rig by now... however I can't get over the feeling that a better memory and gpu would make me even more happy...
Would the 2gb xms 4000pt be a good choice or do we have some better 2gb mem's out there?
I'm also considering the xfx 7800gs 'xt' and upgrade my other agp rig with my present x800xl...
btw... does any mobo support the 479ct and pci-e? ahaahh... the p4gd1 or the p4gpl-x... but how about the multiplier and vcore then...?