The GT300/Fermi Thread - Part 2!

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03-03-2010, 07:42 AM
h0bbes

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Originally Posted by FischOderAal

What do you smoke? Can I have some? :)

I thought he was joking:shrug:
03-03-2010, 07:45 AM
DosDuoNo

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Originally Posted by FischOderAal

What do you smoke? Can I have some? :)

I SMOKE !!!! i smoke you with my new Improved Nvidia Fermi, come play Crysis with that poor 5970 you got, il smoke ya good !!! :yepp:
03-03-2010, 07:46 AM
insurgent

Does the 5870 really take that much hit @8xMSAA in warhead? 5fps looks pathetic for a high end card lol.
03-03-2010, 07:50 AM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by insurgent

Does the 5870 really take that much hit @8xMSAA in warhead? 5fps looks pathetic for a high end card lol.

Runs out of VRAM I think. GTX470 has 200ish more.

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

well I think it's not bad, this would mean that a GTX 480 could be avg. 20% faster than a 5870 with the "right" settings... Of course if you were expecting a 5970 level performance it will disappoint you, but I personally never expected such a thing

I was hoping for GTX470 (6 months late) = 5870 and GTX480 around 20% ahead, but doesn't look like it's happening.
03-03-2010, 08:04 AM
annihilat0r

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Runs out of VRAM I think. GTX470 has 200ish more.

I was hoping for GTX470 (6 months late) = 5870 and GTX480 around 20% ahead, but doesn't look like it's happening.

Well if you are at high IQ settings 470 is fairly close to the 5870; which would still give the chance that GTX 480 is 20% faster than 5870. But that, of course, would be at high IQ settings.

If these charts are true, at lower IQ settings (with lower AA and stuff) I think GTX 480 will perform slightly faster than a HD5870 and Charlie will be able to say "TOLD YA BOYZ!", but at this level of computing I think the more accurate comparison has to be made between the highest IQ settings possible.

After all, without the highest IQ settings, even a HD5850 is able to run all games at even 2560 resolution. The only reason to get something faster is either 3-6 monitors, or extreme IQ settings.
03-03-2010, 08:23 AM
FischOderAal

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Originally Posted by DosDuoNo

I SMOKE !!!! i smoke you with my new Improved Nvidia Fermi, come play Crysis with that poor 5970 you got, il smoke ya good !!! :yepp:

I don't have a 5970, thank you :D Crossfire and SLI sucks ;)

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Runs out of VRAM I think. GTX470 has 200ish more.

Hm, I thought AMD/ATI was more efficient with RAM, or did this only apply to G80/G200 vs RV670/770?
03-03-2010, 08:30 AM
mao5

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Originally Posted by mindfury

Rumor from Chinese forum:
http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1366899-1-1.html

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/d276985e.jpg
The Chinese name card is most likely GTX470,but I'm not sure.

it's 480:ROTF:
03-03-2010, 08:32 AM
Motiv

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Originally Posted by mindfury

Rumor from Chinese forum:
http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1366899-1-1.html

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/d276985e.jpg
The Chinese name card is most likely GTX470,but I'm not sure.

Let's hope these results are false. If I'm upgrading to a DX11 card, I don't want to decide by basis my choice on low FPS but high IQ; or High FPS but low IQ.

If this is the case, then the high FPS is going to win every-time, and that means I'll be getting a 5xxx series.
03-03-2010, 08:34 AM
flippin_waffles

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Runs out of VRAM I think. GTX470 has 200ish more.

I was hoping for GTX470 (6 months late) = 5870 and GTX480 around 20% ahead, but doesn't look like it's happening.

Here is the difference between 1GB and 2GB in an eyefinity configuration. Maybe lower resolutions will benefit as much, with high IQ settings as well!

http://techreport.com/articles.x/18521/2
03-03-2010, 08:36 AM
ElSel10

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Originally Posted by DosDuoNo

so as those of us who knew ;) the GTX470 runs on par with a 5870, and the GTX 480 is 10% -15% faster, at the same TDP.

I love you Nvidia :clap:

What? The card being compared to the 5870 practically loses across the board...

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Originally Posted by mao5

it's 480:ROTF:

Is it really or are you kidding?
03-03-2010, 08:43 AM
mao5

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Originally Posted by ElSel10

What? The card being compared to the 5870 practically loses across the board...

Is it really or are you kidding?

470's retail price is little cheaper than 5850,what do you think?
03-03-2010, 08:43 AM
Iconyu

I noticed early on that the Fermi slides nvidia were showing really made AA a focus point, so I'm guessing it just doesn't take as big a hit when you throw everything at it. We're talking Age of Conan maxed everything at 19x12 32x AA with playable framerates.

The problem I'm predicting is, while it doesn't take much of a hit when you max out AA the numbers don't start terribly high. It's it's slow with 8x AA it won't be that much faster with no AA at all.

Most reviews aim at 19x12 with 4x/8x aa for base line so it'll make fermi look pretty good.
03-03-2010, 08:44 AM
annihilat0r

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Originally Posted by mao5

470's retail price is little cheaper than 5850,what do you think?

and who says this
03-03-2010, 08:44 AM
Lightman

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Originally Posted by ElSel10

What? The card being compared to the 5870 practically loses across the board...

Is it really or are you kidding?

He can read these wired symbols :p: (I think)
03-03-2010, 08:50 AM
mao5

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

and who says this

pciinlife forum
03-03-2010, 09:02 AM
annihilat0r

Even Charlie said 480 would be faster than the 5870. My experience is, things can get better than the predictions of Charlie, but not worse.
03-03-2010, 09:24 AM
s1nykuL

I am curious as to why Nvidia has been so quiet about the performance of the cards. No hype, no leaked real benches and anyone with hands on these cards is complying with the NDA. I would have thought that if these cards were so wonderful that Nvidia themselves would have let something leak just to dissuade those who may go ATI from doing so. After all, all those ATI 58xx sales could have been a Fermi.

I am guessing and could be completely wrong, but I don't think Fermi is going to be all that great. All the hype has been generated virally by the speculation of Nvidia fans and I have yet to see anything concrete that supports the generated hype.

I am not one to sulk because I don't have the fastest GPU on the market so I am sincere when I say, I do hope it pans out for you all, your dreams are fulfilled and the wait was worth it.

Only a few weeks now and we will all know the truth
03-03-2010, 10:14 AM
Luka_Aveiro

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Originally Posted by s1nykuL

snip

I think otherwise, actually.

I think Fermi is going to be really good, so they are not telling anything in order to keep AMD quiet with it's current prices and line-up.

If real performance figures were great and would come to general acknowledgment, AMD would bring the prices down in order to force consumers to buy. They can, but they won't until the fat lady really shuts it out.
03-03-2010, 10:53 AM
LesGrossman

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Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro

I think otherwise, actually.

I think Fermi is going to be really good, so they are not telling anything in order to keep AMD quiet with it's current prices and line-up.

If real performance figures were great and would come to general acknowledgment, AMD would bring the prices down in order to force consumers to buy. They can, but they won't until the fat lady really shuts it out.

lol

So basically Nvidia evil plan it to make AMD have higher margins and profits as long as possible.

... :shrug:
03-03-2010, 11:03 AM
Nedjo

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Originally Posted by LesGrossman

lol

So basically Nvidia evil plan it to make AMD have higher margins and profits as long as possible.

... :shrug:

AMD and NVIDIA are the best friends :D
03-03-2010, 11:04 AM
Aerwidh

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Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro

I think otherwise, actually.

I think Fermi is going to be really good, so they are not telling anything in order to keep AMD quiet with it's current prices and line-up.

If real performance figures were great and would come to general acknowledgment, AMD would bring the prices down in order to force consumers to buy. They can, but they won't until the fat lady really shuts it out.

Could go either way, I think. Problem with having little/no info is just that, little/no info :(
03-03-2010, 11:19 AM
Nedjo

某卡 = http://www.google.com/translate_t?te...&ved=0CAUQmwM#
03-03-2010, 11:21 AM
SkItZo

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Originally Posted by Aerwidh

Could go either way, I think. Problem with having little/no info is just that, little/no info :(

OMG, your sig made me laugh so hard that a bit of wee came out :eek::rofl:
03-03-2010, 12:02 PM
DosDuoNo

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Even Charlie said 480 would be faster than the 5870. My experience is, things can get better than the predictions of Charlie, but not worse.

ahhh pure logic, in its purist form. :yepp:
03-03-2010, 12:05 PM
annihilat0r

Granted, it can't get much worse than "fermi is big, hot, slow and unmanufacturable" :D

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