well if you do and they play nice with cold LMK i may grab one.Quote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
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well if you do and they play nice with cold LMK i may grab one.Quote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
DPMW :eek: :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kesnel
Have you heard anything on that week's stepping?Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
I was happy to get an LDBHE, just unsure how the week 5s are doing compared to the week 1s.
Seems like my old BH-E4 X2 3800+ is sooooo hungry that I´d probably save money on the electricity bill like a few months from now if I´d change it... Changing psu since it´s caving in under the constant abuse. Hade over 80 celcius(calibrated t-ban temp on hs) inside it after some Q4 hours last week.
Guys anyone able to help me,
I Want a X2 4400(because they OC well on air)but what stepping should i look for?Or will most X24400 wil doing well
Thks alot
It seems most 06 CCBWE's clock well, so I see no reason why the 4400+'s would be any different from the others. Umm, my stepping is in my sig and it is a very good stepping. I think you should be looking at week 40-50 year 05 type CPU's as these have been clocking much better than the earlier 4400+'s, and it is still too early to know any uber steppings for the 06 CPU's. So all in all, it is still pot luck but the newer CPU's seem to have better memory controllers than the earlier ones (especially from my experience).Quote:
Originally Posted by Athlon64OC
My chip is a great one, CCBWE 0546SPAW doing 2.8ghz @ 1.49v. It did 2.6ghz on 1.34v too.
Thats identical to my Opty 170 :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by smids
Apropos of nothing, I have a sneaking suspicion that LDBHE is finished at 0606 and LDBFE is the replacement from 0607 onwards. Time will prove this one way or the other.
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Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
Hello. My name is Time. :) I have an 0607 LDBHE. Waiting on better cooling.
Duh! lol! And I already knew from Blue078 that these existed before I wrote that. OK, 0607 is last LDBHE and 0608 onwards is all LDBFE, how's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by serlv
Interesting that LDBHE 0607 has only turned up in the southern half of the USA so far; other 0607s in Thailand and the UK are LDBFE. The only 0608 so far has been LDBFE.
after some limited gains seen on my previous x2 3800+ toledo core I'm getting the itch to swap out my proc with one of these 06 x2's after reading all of your experiences.. I've done some digging around locally and located a few different options..
Anyone have any input on which one would be the more desireable week/stepping?
ldbhe 0601 fpmw
ldbhe 0602 xpmw
ldbhe 0604 cpmw
ldbhe 0605 ????? (didn't get the last 4 letters for this one)
ldbfe 0607 spmw
I can pick up the 0607 spmw for ~280 in a combo so I was originally leaning towards that one but after reading some of the discussions in the T or N thread about the higher first letter being the most desireable (xpmw , tpmw , etc) I was hesitant to jump on it.. also I'm not sure how the 0601 fpmw compares..
My plan is to use air initially .. dfi lanparty sli-dr w/ thermalright si-120 + panaflo 120mm fan in a p180 with upgraded fans.. but I'm also considering going to water.. phase seems very costly but very desireable.. so i think im not quite ready for that yet..
any input?
If you are looking for a good clocker on air, see if the 0601 chip has a "N" in the lower right corner of the green plastic board. If it is a N it most probably will be a great air clocker. That goes for the other weeks too, but especially for 0601's. "T" chips seem to do better on high end water/ sub-zero cooling.
There are exceptions, but this is becoming the trend with these '06 x2's.
You should buy all 4, see which one does the best, and sell the others on ebay, or in the for sale here. A bunch of people with phase are going to want these non cold bugged chips.
Well I'm testing an LDBFE 0609XPMW 'n'. I was going by probably the same sort of threads you've been reading. The only thing that's maybe letting it down is the high batch number.
It may still need burn in, if there is such a thing, but I think my 0607TPMW 't', is a better performer. That was looking pretty stable at 2.8 ghz, 1.425 * 1.048 special VID.
So far the 0609 At 2.7 ghz 1.35v * 1.048 has failed prime. I'm currently priming at same voltage 2.65 ghz. Will see what happens. It's a lottery game this.:)
I now have an LDBHE 0602XPCW, an LDBFE 0607TPMW and the 0609. Like fullup's suggestion I'll be flogging the weaker ones, which are still pretty respectable. I flogged my x2 4200 yesterday, which bought this 0609. Fun'n'games.:)
By the way is there any sort of recommended time period for oc'ing a new chip like the x2 3800. I'm a bit impatient, but should you really give it a few days or so to build up to 2.6 for instance?
RLM
hmm.. a bit pricey to lay out 200-300 a pop for each of these x2's.. but it may be the best idea.. that 0601 fpmw seemed like a hot find since the 0601's are getting rarer..
i had looked at the phase change setups and while that would be extremely cool to work with.. i worry that its noisy/expensive and not practical for 24/7 use.. i'm not a huge gamer but I do appreciate the performance for encoding and graphic design + various multimedia uses..
do you think its worth the investment to go for a mid-high water setup now? whats the price range? from looking briefly online it seemed ~400-500 for a decent setup.. are the performance differences that great compared to my si-120? I did quite a bit of reading on the air products and I was pretty happy with the reviews on the si-120 and i have to say its performed wonderfully.. under normal use i'm seeing ~25-35c for my current x2 3800+ overclocked ~2.45ghz ..
if i do make the move to water.. would it make more sense to find a T or will a N still do? I can see myself remaining on air for a few months as i get everything ready though..
also.. is it possible to see the pcb marking in the retail packaging? I didn't bother asking the stores when I called as I figured it was obscured..
i appreciate all of the input so far.. there are some amazingly smart and experienced people on this forum and i've been learning a ton just browsing and reading threads..
I've only used w/c kits so far, TT bigwater se and now the galaxy. Ambient here is hot pretty much all year round 24/7. The watercooling has reduced my temps by what between 10-15c. It has certainly taken me out of the danger area, when full load and overclocking. That's the only real benefit for me.
Your temps seem to be pretty good though. Just to add I've also installed airconditioning now aswell, so ambient is down. My cpu temp is below 25 at idle (expert reading).
I'm pretty new to the overclocking bit I have to say. I thought when I bought my first watercooling that miracles were suddenly going to happen. (Edit: Sad isn't it?)
For your reference it's not the case, or at least not here.
Hope that's some food for thought anyway.
RLM
ps.I think I've just read elsewhere, that 'N' is good for air and 'T' for water and phase. Don't quote me though.
I said something about N and T to that effect somewhere... dfi-street?Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
Yeah, first watercooling, the anticipation.... unbeknown to me I had so the wrong chip for overclocking... is that it?? yes, been there.
My 3800 T is out of phase and heading for water. The 4600 T has gone back under phase. I want 2.8 / 1.45v or 2.9 / 1.55v out of the 3800, I think that's possible (2800 / 1.52v stock air).
hey guys,
I'm wondering whther my 450w psu is limiting my X2.. Under load the 12v drops quite a lot to 12.05 ish but under 3d load it drops quite a bit below 12v (havnt got a DMM reading for it but it lowers about 0.1v then cpu load according to SG)
basically I get;
2600 stable @ 1.4v bios
2650 stable @ 1.45v bios
2700 stable @ 1.55v bios
2750 core 1 very unstable @ 1.57v real
with my xp-90c I don't get temps above 50'c which is good and my tcasemax is 63'C.
its a 4200+ LDBHE 0602 XPMW btw
I don't have money for a new psu yet so I thought I'd ask to see what people think before I take a risk and buy one...
My results so far are pretty disappointing tbh, I was hoping for atleast 2.8 stable for 24/7 on reasonable volts... the 3800+ 0602XPMW's seem to be doing really well which is why i'm worried it's my psu..
The thing is you(not you personally:) want to believe that there's a chance that some other factor is holding you back. Motherboard, ram, psu. I've been doing it myself. I currently think it maybe my motherboard, but the reality probably is that it's just the cpu and luck of the draw.
I have an LDBHE 0602 XPCW, I think it is, and it's hitting about the same as yours. It was stable at stock volts, even undervolting up to 2.55 and then it got real greedy:). A real wind up.
That said, 450w does seem a bit low. I can't see your setup. Shouldn't skimp on the PSU, so I would make it a priorty. There's a sticky I believe on DFI-Street, with recommended PSU's.
RLM:)
edit: Stone cold, don't know much or anything about phase. The shop I go to here, was proud to tell me that they are getting phase in, in the next few weeks. Not sure if it is vapochill or not, but I wait with interest. Must get saving. Oh any tips or things to look out for by the way?
nah mate, I'm willing to accept the chip won't go higher..Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
I had to buy 3 dothans (third time lucky) to get one that would do 2.8+, I always seem to get non-great clockers so I'm used to it.
I'd just like to atleast have a go and be able to rule out my doubts about the psu..
edit: PS I was thinking about the same psu you got in your sig, 620w if I got enough, 500w if don't get that much together..
Must be just me then(LOL).
I'm no expert, but I think it's a nice PSU. I upgraded from a 550w Enermax, just recently. I too wanted to rule out the PSU, but it was a memory issue at the time. For one thing the liberty has an a 8 pin 12v, and 24 pin power connection, which my old one didn't have.
What I do like about it is the sockets on it, with detachable leads, so you only use what you need. kind of tidy.
It didn't help my memory issue by the way, that was a drive strength thing. Still nice to have it though.:)
RLM
yeh, does it have 4 pin for ultra-d aswell? also, definately not my mem, it's running 216mhz 1.5-2-2-5 really tight timings etc and passed 1000% windows memtesting... :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
btw, I noticed you said your speeds were the same as mine but your sig says 2750 @ 1.475v? :confused:
Yes it has the 4 pin for your board. I've used it on my asus premium aswell. Basically 2x4 pins that slot in together on the expert.
Sorry need to update mate(LOL). Like yourself I've got 3 cpus on the go. That's my LDBFE 0607TPMW. The LDBHE was the first one I bought.
RLM
Overclocking report
3800+ X2 LDBHE 0601TPMW 0203 batch, "N"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...g/3cab923f.jpg
Cooling is custom watercooling in sig, mobo/ram all in sig
Validation screenshot @ 3.26 Ghz, first attempt, 1.60 volts
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=82763
Some priming
2.85 Ghz 1.5v
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...g/20c619f0.jpg
2.95 Ghz 1.56v (cold room, usually needs 1.6v and loads at 45c)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...g/5c9b1873.jpg
will not prime at 3 Ghz with any voltage to save its life, even with a pretty chilly room
Super Pi goes somewhere though
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...g/650a44d4.jpg
ah right, I guess I'll just make do with 2.6 or 2.7... (Dont like the odd numbers :S)Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
I also found a stock of ldbhe 0605 xpmw's .. still think the ldbhe 0601 fpmw is the way to go to first?
i'm so torn..
searching around,.. i see this..
3,13 GHz @ 1,55V * 0602 XPMW * Wakü @ 36°C * ohne HS * 3h DualPrime * No_Name *