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11-07-2007, 10:54 AM
ShawnTRD

Everyone says the board overvolts. Has anyone checked this with a meter? If not does someone have a diagram of the leads and I could check them.
11-07-2007, 10:57 AM
binormalkilla

I could check them too......let me know where the leads are if you find out.
11-07-2007, 11:07 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

Everyone says the board overvolts. Has anyone checked this with a meter? If not does someone have a diagram of the leads and I could check them.

I just went with the bios readouts : ram seems to be overvolting about 0.09 volt... also if you set other values they seem slightly overvolted in the bios readout...
11-07-2007, 11:39 AM
sdumper

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

Everyone says the board overvolts. Has anyone checked this with a meter? If not does someone have a diagram of the leads and I could check them.

good call i have been wondering about this too...could be a misreading from PC Probe and nothing to do with the actual voltage...
11-07-2007, 12:20 PM
kup

I've not read through the P5E thread, but are they getting the issues with Full Load and not loading 100%? Seeing as it's 995 the same board, I thought I'd question it?
11-07-2007, 12:28 PM
kup

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9...evdroophs4.jpg

EPU mod that was mentioned earlier?
11-07-2007, 12:29 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I've not read through the P5E thread, but are they getting the issues with Full Load and not loading 100%? Seeing as it's 995 the same board, I thought I'd question it?

any answers yet???? that issue is a big turn off for me, if it doesnt get fixed by the time the 780i is out, im going to switch boards...
11-07-2007, 12:31 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9...evdroophs4.jpg

EPU mod that was mentioned earlier?

I wonder if this fixes the prime 95 voltage/frequency related problem..........is anyone going to try this?????
11-07-2007, 12:31 PM
Majoram

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9...evdroophs4.jpg

EPU mod that was mentioned earlier?

Yes that is the one.
11-07-2007, 12:33 PM
Amon 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I've not read through the P5E thread, but are they getting the issues with Full Load and not loading 100%? Seeing as it's 995 the same board, I thought I'd question it?

Can you post your settings config at 3,9ghz? i am at 3,84ghz but when i start blend test after 50min the sistem reboot thank's
11-07-2007, 12:41 PM
ChaosMinionX

So what does everyone think of 0701/0702?

I am still gonna stick with 0505 till they get some more things down.
11-07-2007, 12:42 PM
Bigchrome

I never get the not full loading but I think it's quad's only? Vdroop mod done and not done it's the same I think.
11-07-2007, 12:43 PM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

any answers yet???? that issue is a big turn off for me, if it doesnt get fixed by the time the 780i is out, im going to switch boards...

Moe than likely the same here, or even just go back to my Striker, at least it didn't have these funky issues...

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

I wonder if this fixes the prime 95 voltage/frequency related problem..........is anyone going to try this?????

I might try it over the next few days, but there is no guide as to how much to draw on it, what resistance we need to drop it down too... And I've killed about £600 worth of hardware before with a dodgy pencil mod (old ATi GFX card mod... went POOOOFF, took board/ram/psu with it... :( )

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon 83

Can you post your settings config at 3,9ghz? i am at 3,84ghz but when i start blend test after 50min the sistem reboot thank's

1.6v vCore, and everything else one notch into yellow I think? I'll check... Ram @ 400MHz divider 1:1 with FSB... 4-4-4-12, 2.2v... Static control thingy and the other ones all auto...

At 1.6v vCore I get the load issue, but with 1.55v (stable but not 24.7) i don't get it...
11-07-2007, 12:45 PM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

So what does everyone think of 0701/0702?

I am still gonna stick with 0505 till they get some more things down.

Honestly, nice bios...seems just as fast as 0505 in real world terms, no difference in FPS in games. i can squeeze a few more MHz out of the FSB too with 0701, over 0505! :D
11-07-2007, 12:48 PM
ChaosMinionX

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

Honestly, nice bios...seems just as fast as 0505 in real world terms, no difference in FPS in games. i can squeeze a few more MHz out of the FSB too with 0701, over 0505! :D

Interesting, I might just have to play with 0701 some more, but it wasnt playing nice with me at all :mad:
11-07-2007, 12:48 PM
jonny_ftm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

if it passes memtest, and pases prime blend, should i even care about occt???

I'd care, yes. Look at the home forum of OCCT on hardware.fr (french only). I participated in the beta program. I was one of those who sputted on OCCT and its 30mn test. Now, in RAM mode, OCCT is for me the way to go.

OCCT new beta was completely redesigned for quad cores compatibility. My setup (in my sig) is stable Prime95 small/large/blend at 9x400 MHz. It never passed OCCT last beta in RAM mode above 390MHz. OCCT will stress the CPU less than Prime95, but the way calculations are made, stresses the CPU-NB-MB pathway a lot.

OCCT is not only a 30mn test. Most people banned it because of that 30mn message saying you're stable. Now, in new final release, it will be shown as: "no errors detected". The 30mn test is meant for a quick stability check only and can't be compared to a Prime95 12h run. You need to run a custom longer test, like with prime95, many hours to be safe

I won't go in a always hostile debate Prime95 or OCCT, but if you're OCCT unstable, than you're unstable. To rule it out, run OCCT in stock settings and you get your answer. You can ignore it, but you know, once in a while: you'll hang up...

I also agree saying memtest isn't a stress testing really, it only checks physical damage on memory modules. For unstable OC, it needs a really unstable one to fail
11-07-2007, 12:55 PM
Amon 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

Moe than likely the same here, or even just go back to my Striker, at least it didn't have these funky issues...

I might try it over the next few days, but there is no guide as to how much to draw on it, what resistance we need to drop it down too... And I've killed about £600 worth of hardware before with a dodgy pencil mod (old ATi GFX card mod... went POOOOFF, took board/ram/psu with it... :( )

1.6v vCore, and everything else one notch into yellow I think? I'll check... Ram @ 400MHz divider 1:1 with FSB... 4-4-4-12, 2.2v... Static control thingy and the other ones all auto...

At 1.6v vCore I get the load issue, but with 1.55v (stable but not 24.7) i don't get it...

thank you and the northbridge voltage?
11-07-2007, 12:57 PM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Interesting, I might just have to play with 0701 some more, but it wasnt playing nice with me at all :mad:

Yeah, me too to begin with. I went back to 0505 once, but then just decided to go to the latest and stick with it! :D Give it another go! :cool:
11-07-2007, 12:59 PM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon 83

thank you and the northbridge voltage?

I think that was either 1 notch into yellow, so 1.52v if memory serves? Or 1 notch before red, so 1.77v? I can't remember, sorry... I've tried so many settings on this bloody board I'm fed up of tweaking it now... :D
11-07-2007, 01:01 PM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonny_ftm

I'd care, yes. Look at the home forum of OCCT on hardware.fr (french only). I participated in the beta program. I was one of those who sputted on OCCT and its 30mn test. Now, in RAM mode, OCCT is for me the way to go.

OCCT new beta was completely redesigned for quad cores compatibility. My setup (in my sig) is stable Prime95 small/large/blend at 9x400 MHz. It never passed OCCT last beta in RAM mode above 390MHz. OCCT will stress the CPU less than Prime95, but the way calculations are made, stresses the CPU-NB-MB pathway a lot.

OCCT is not only a 30mn test. Most people banned it because of that 30mn message saying you're stable. Now, in new final release, it will be shown as: "no errors detected". The 30mn test is meant for a quick stability check only and can't be compared to a Prime95 12h run. You need to run a custom longer test, like with prime95, many hours to be safe

I won't go in a always hostile debate Prime95 or OCCT, but if you're OCCT unstable, than you're unstable. To rule it out, run OCCT in stock settings and you get your answer. You can ignore it, but you know, once in a while: you'll hang up...

I also agree saying memtest isn't a stress testing really, it only checks physical damage on memory modules. For unstable OC, it needs a really unstable one to fail

If OCCT would tell you what test it was running when it crashed, then it may be of use, but until it does, when it crashes, how do you know what to change? This is my only complaint about the program.

As I posted, I have run it, it IS part of my stability testing, but so is every other "Stress Test" Proggie with error-checking. It's not that it isn't useful...but it's not AS useful as Prime95 for me.

BTW, if you want to relate my comments to the OCCT writers, I'd much appreciate it.
11-07-2007, 01:13 PM
kup

"ASUS EPU intelligently switches between 4 and 8-phase modes, improving voltage regulator module (VRM) efficiency"

Snippet from Asus about EPU. Does anyone think our problems could be due to the switching modes on the fly?
11-07-2007, 01:17 PM
sdumper

what issues? max fsb no i dont think its related.
11-07-2007, 01:17 PM
cadaveca

lol i stated this a long time ago. It's induced by the current draw of the cpu...draw goes up, 8-phase mode should kick in, due to EPU driver, but it isn't working, and we must await new driver or a bios that disables this functionality before the quadcore-load issue is fixed.

This is also why I mentiioned pencilmod may work, however it truly depends which is default mode...8-phase or 4-phase...and I can tell you based on behavior that it's not 8....but if it was, then i think we'd not have these issues, with droop-mod in place.

One good thing about it tho is that I won't be killing any more ASUS boards with quads....new P5K-pro(p35) has EPU as well...so may be a "new" standard feature from now on.
11-07-2007, 01:23 PM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

lol i stated this a long time ago. It's induced by the current draw of the cpu...draw goes up, 8-phase mode should kick in, due to EPU driver, but it isn't working, and we must await new driver or a bios that disables this functionality before the quadcore-load issue is fixed.

This is also why I mentiioned pencilmod may work, however it truly depends which is default mode...8-phase or 4-phase...and I can tell you based on behavior that it's not 8....but if it was, then i think we'd not have these issues, with droop-mod in place.

One good thing about it tho is that I won't be killing any more ASUS boards with quads....new P5K-pro(p35) has EPU as well...so may be a "new" standard feature from now on.

Lol, my bad! Ok then, does anyone have the white papers on the EPU chip? So we can learn how to force it into 8Phase mode? :D
11-07-2007, 01:25 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

"ASUS EPU intelligently switches between 4 and 8-phase modes, improving voltage regulator module (VRM) efficiency"

Snippet from Asus about EPU. Does anyone think our problems could be due to the switching modes on the fly?

is there no way to turn the switching off?

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