!UPDATE! abit AW9D-Max (retail) arrived

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12-09-2006, 01:10 PM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by death metal

I know that patience is a virtue, but waiting for the next official BIOS release is just unbearable already. I know they are making sure things will work out, but hey September to December (see the gap?)...

THIS NEEDS TO BE SAID... I HOPE NO MOD GRINDS MY :banana: :banana: :banana: FOR SAYING IT.

Ridiculous isn't it? I mean you have to wonder how certain people in this same thread TOUTED this board as the king of 'em all which influenced some of us to buy the board in the first place. Then we followed up with petitions for the 1333 strap. Finally, when the bios arrives, we are left begging to try it. Needless to say, we know you have the bios going around in that little circle of yours - which is all good. But remember that the next time you PROMOTE a board, we will be taking it with a pinch of salt.

Finally, finally. When I joined this forum, I thought that this was about community? In a community, we share ideas and resources to help each other overcome computing difficulties. It seems that this is not the case at all. I am waiting to be proven wrong. This is really frustrating. Don't get me wrong, I love this forum and will continue to be a member for a long time to come. Also, all of us, well, the majority of us who come here, know about the risks of modding and voiding warranties, but we come here because we have decided it is worth the risk. So stop giving us lectures. Thank you.

PS: Hope I haven't stepped on any toes too hard.
12-09-2006, 01:22 PM
Nitemare

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Originally Posted by hipro5

Good news.........A birdie told about 1333 strap......;) :D

...did that birdie tell you a release date of any BIOS ( Beta or Final ) including the 1333 strap? Maybe before Christmas or even next year? Wish I´d try that strap myself finally.

greetz
12-09-2006, 01:26 PM
Nitemare

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

THIS NEEDS TO BE SAID... I HOPE NO MOD GRINDS MY :banana: :banana: :banana: FOR SAYING IT.

Ridiculous isn't it? I mean you have to wonder how certain people in this same thread TOUTED this board as the king of 'em all which influenced some of us to buy the board in the first place. Then we followed up with petitions for the 1333 strap. Finally, when the bios arrives, we are left begging to try the it. Needless to say, we know you have the bios going around in that little circle of yours - which is all good. But remember that the next time you PROMOTE a board, we will be taking it with a pinch of salt.

Finally, finally. When I joined this forum, I thought what this was about community? In a community, we share ideas and resources to help each other overcome computing difficulties. It seems that this is not the case at all. I am waiting to be proven wrong. This is really frustrating. Don't get me wrong, I love this forum and will continue to be a member for a long time to come. Also, all of us, well, the majority of us who come here, know about the risks of modding and voiding warranties, but we come here because we have decided it is worth the risk. So stop giving us lectures. Thank you.

PS: Hope I haven't stepped on any toes too hard.

Your talking just right outta my soul my friend.

Sharing interests, knowledge and resources is the heartbeat of any Community. Just like this. But maybe that screenshot including that strap was just the result of a little photoshop session ;) !?

Greetz!
12-09-2006, 02:16 PM
coop

@pcmoddingmy, did you happen to note any before and after temp changes with the pwm's in uguru after changing to the Thermalright?
12-09-2006, 03:53 PM
JoeBar

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Originally Posted by Nitemare

Your talking just right outta my soul my friend.

Sharing interests, knowledge and resources is the heartbeat of any Community. Just like this. But maybe that screenshot including that strap was just the result of a little photoshop session ;) !?

Greetz!

Do u know the word responsibility? If someone gives u an Alpha bios and your board dies, what are u going to say then...?

BTW thinking this way about someone else just defeats your own "Community theory"... ;)
12-09-2006, 09:33 PM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

Do u know the word responsibility? If someone gives u an Alpha bios and your board dies, what are u going to say then...?

BTW thinking this way about someone else just defeats your own "Community theory"... ;)

Come on man, you should know better. We all know how these things are done... they always come with a disclaimer. Anyway, even final release bios have been known to kill mobos if not done right. Save us the lecture.
12-09-2006, 10:11 PM
MrDeeds

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Come on man, you should know better. We all know how these things are done... they always come with a disclaimer. Anyway, even final release bios have been known to kill mobos if not done right. Save us the lecture.

If your so concerned about contributing to the community then why dont you find a way to get the bios by yourself rather than just whining about what somebody else isnt giving you. Nobody owes you a thing. Your not concerned about the community, your concerned about yourself and what your not getting.

If you bought the board based on the fact that someone hit 470fsb with a heavily modded board and your not happy that your stock board will only go up to the 440s then i think your not making some very good decisions. I havent seen one review where the board got over 450fsb stock. Its no revelation, if you did your own research you'd know thats as far your probably going to get stock. Its a strap and chipset limitation. When the board was released it came with no 1333strap and if they choose to give us that now thats just gravy. You should have known what you were getting yourself into.

There are some very legit issues with the board and we are all itching for a bios update but a alpha bios with a 1333 strap probably isnt going to do many of us any good unless you get high on benching. Most alpha and even beta bioses have bugs that make them worse than a lower clocking but more functional bios. This is Xs, where people have es cpus that arent going to be released for months. Boards that we cant even touch for weeks. It shouldnt be that big of a deal that someone has a bios that you cant have, at least not yet. As long as they are willing to share those results then thats all i care about because i know that the bios will eventually be released.
12-09-2006, 11:02 PM
fhpchris

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Originally Posted by MrDeeds

If your so concerned about contributing to the community then why dont you find a way to get the bios by yourself rather than just whining about what somebody else isnt giving you. Nobody owes you a thing. Your not concerned about the community, your concerned about yourself and what your not getting.

If you bought the board based on the fact that someone hit 470fsb with a heavily modded board and your not happy that your stock board will only go up to the 440s then i think your not making some very good decisions. I havent seen one review where the board got over 450fsb stock. Its no revelation, if you did your own research you'd know thats as far your probably going to get stock. Its a strap and chipset limitation. When the board was released it came with no 1333strap and if they choose to give us that now thats just gravy. You should have known what you were getting yourself into.

There are some very legit issues with the board and we are all itching for a bios update but a alpha bios with a 1333 strap probably isnt going to do many of us any good unless you get high on benching. Most alpha and even beta bioses have bugs that make them worse than a lower clocking but more functional bios. This is Xs, where people have es cpus that arent going to be released for months. Boards that we cant even touch for weeks. It shouldnt be that big of a deal that someone has a bios that you cant have, at least not yet. As long as they are willing to share those results then thats all i care about because i know that the bios will eventually be released.

Very well said ;)
12-09-2006, 11:45 PM
Nitemare

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

Do u know the word responsibility? If someone gives u an Alpha bios and your board dies, what are u going to say then...?

BTW thinking this way about someone else just defeats your own "Community theory"... ;)

...persons that are able to read got a big advantage. ;)
So please read what I`d say a few posts ago. I think you´re able to, aren´t you!?

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Originally Posted by Nitemare

I´d say: "F**k! Now I gotta do a hotswap with my other AW9D-Max. But I didn´t do that a long time ago. So I wanted to do a hotswap again anyway."

So, everyone himself (and only himself) is responsible for flashing BIOS. No matter if alfa, beta or final. If I burn my BIOS by flashing an alfa then its me I´m gonna thank for this and not abit, xs or hipro5. As I know flashing bios always voids warranty, does it?

So, I think I´m a little experienced with flashing bios. Did that about 500 - 1000 times already and about 5 times I really flashed some bull into the CMOS. But that doesnt`t mean that the board is fuc*ed up. Almost in that Case I did a hotswap and all was fine again. In the remaining cases I programmed that eeprom in an eeprom-burner.

My warranty is allready void by doing all your cool mods to my AW9D-Max, just like I did to my former systems board, the IC7-G. It did about 1 year 24/7 running with your mods and now it´s retarded but still runs fine. Thanks again for inventing those excellent mods.

...at last, I´d be really happy by getting a pm from that little birdie you told us.
12-10-2006, 01:50 AM
hipro5

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Originally Posted by Nitemare

But maybe that screenshot including that strap was just the result of a little photoshop session ;) !?

Greetz!

a. IF you take a GOOD look at this shot, it was taken with a digicam
b. IF you knew me better, you would have known I don't BSing around.
c. You just CAN'T accuse someone in an open forum without evidence...While you say that the screenshot IS a photoshop, you're accusing me that I photoshop it..........SO little brain in your head.....Jesus!.....:(
12-10-2006, 01:53 AM
fhpchris

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Originally Posted by hipro5

a. IF you take a GOOD look at this shot, it was taken with a digicam
b. IF you knew me better, you would have known I don't BSing around.
c. You just CAN'T accuse someone in an open forum without evidence...While you say that the screenshot IS a photoshop, you're accusing me that I photoshop it..........SO little brain in your head.....Jesus!.....:(

Do not worry about it hipro :|

6*451 with X6800 will not even pass 1m :(

I wish there was a pencil vfsb mod, would you know of the proper resistor to pencil hipro?
12-10-2006, 02:06 AM
Nitemare

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Originally Posted by hipro5

a. IF you take a GOOD look at this shot, it was taken with a digicam
b. IF you knew me better, you would have known I don't BSing around.
c. You just CAN'T accuse someone in an open forum without evidence...While you say that the screenshot IS a photoshop, you're accusing me that I photoshop it..........SO little brain in your head.....Jesus!.....:(

...just said MAYBE and signed with a " ;) ". So everyone should get me right.

sry if u misunderstood.

But thanks for small brain compliment. :banana:

GreetZ!
12-10-2006, 02:12 AM
hipro5

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Originally Posted by fhpchris

Do not worry about it hipro :|

6*451 with X6800 will not even pass 1m :(

I wish there was a pencil vfsb mod, would you know of the proper resistor to pencil hipro?

We could do a pensil mod as for the VMCH but not for the VFSB.....:(
12-10-2006, 03:54 AM
Lalaboy

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Originally Posted by hipro5

We could do a pensil mod as for the VMCH but not for the VFSB.....:(

I can`t go above 451Mhz FSB. Can you show the vmch pencil mod?:)
12-10-2006, 04:11 AM
pcmoddingmy

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Originally Posted by coop

@pcmoddingmy, did you happen to note any before and after temp changes with the pwm's in uguru after changing to the Thermalright?

Well, what does PWM temps has got to do with the NB heatsink?
This board doesn't report NB temps at all. In fact, I don't remember seeing a 975 or 965 mobo that has NB temp readout.
Anyways, PWM temp looks kinda similar as it was before the HR-05.
Anyways, a little update...

Overclocked it to 400FSB at 2.0vMCH and left Orthos running while I went to bed. Came back the next morning and saw Orthos had failed after about 3 hours into it. Damn...
So, did another run at 400FSB but with 1.9vMCH and errored out on the 58th minute in Orthos. :brick:
12-10-2006, 04:32 AM
hipro5

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Originally Posted by Lalaboy

I can`t go above 451Mhz FSB. Can you show the vmch pencil mod?:)

Haven't tested so be carefull.....This is the spot......When I say be carefull, I mean don't drop too much "pencil" on it.....
Drop a bit and look into bios the VMCH and again and again.......
DON'T do it "onthefly".....I mean don't do it with your mobo powered on.....

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...Pencil_mod.jpg
12-10-2006, 06:18 AM
Lalaboy

pencil mod for vmch

Thank you HYPRO!:up:

One of my Redline death. (3.1V) I bought Team Xtreem 6400 C3 2x1Gb. Only with 1 BIOS working good. The biggest problem is, that if I OC the rams and the win. is crashing, the mobo load bios defaults, I can boot into the bios with only 1 modul.:confused:
12-10-2006, 08:43 AM
G H Z

Anyone run SLI on this board yet?
12-10-2006, 09:44 AM
death metal

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

We could do a pensil mod as for the VMCH but not for the VFSB.....:(

Heya hipro5, did your birdie mentioned about vFSB? I have been dying to get it this settings on the BIOS. I posted previously here: http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...postcount=1595

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Please request to add support for FSB vTT adjustment up to 1.8v (currently 1.2v only). I'm too lazy to vMod a board nowadays, so I hope they will add that option to help Kentsfield with better FSB.

I have no problems running Conroe XE with 440+ FSB on this board, but Kentsfield stability is tough beyond 325FSB (350FSB max at Bad Axe 1, 390FSB max at Bad Axe 2).

I know this board isn't designed for Kentsfield OCing (it will OC, but not as high as Conroe) but I am still hoping they can do the fix. If not, like I already said, waiting for the next bios is unbearable (and very few who knows if and when they are going to release it) and I might as well wait for a newer board.
12-10-2006, 11:16 AM
The Nemesis

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Originally Posted by G H Z

Anyone run SLI on this board yet?

It's been awhile, but yes. I ran 2 7900GT's for awhile.................
http://img.techpowerup.org/061117/42...hmark Abit.jpg
12-10-2006, 12:29 PM
JoeBar

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Originally Posted by Nitemare

...persons that are able to read got a big advantage. ;)
So please read what I`d say a few posts ago. I think you´re able to, aren´t you!?

The word responsibility wasn't meant for u... ;)
12-10-2006, 12:49 PM
Chosen.

Anybody tried a Kentsfield on this board? Has the problem with the unlocked multis been resolved? (only 2 out of the 4 cores responding to multiplier changing)

Is ABIT planning to release any new BIOSes, or they just dropped the whole AW9D line?
12-10-2006, 01:04 PM
coop

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Originally Posted by pcmoddingmy

Well, what does PWM temps has got to do with the NB heatsink?
This board doesn't report NB temps at all. In fact, I don't remember seeing a 975 or 965 mobo that has NB temp readout.
Anyways, PWM temp looks kinda similar as it was before the HR-05.
Anyways, a little update...

Overclocked it to 400FSB at 2.0vMCH and left Orthos running while I went to bed. Came back the next morning and saw Orthos had failed after about 3 hours into it. Damn...
So, did another run at 400FSB but with 1.9vMCH and errored out on the 58th minute in Orthos. :brick:

So,did you notice if it helped or not? The reason I'm asking is I have sanded my nb sink and have a strong fan on top with no heatpipe. If an aftermarket cooler don't help then I will keep the one I have.
**EDIT** I mentioned earlier that my first board would no longer boot. I was looking at it Friday and found this. The label has warped fron heat and a hole was burnt into it. I tried to hotflash with present board but it was not recognized during flash.
12-10-2006, 02:29 PM
Blue078

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Originally Posted by coop

So,did you notice if it helped or not? The reason I'm asking is I have sanded my nb sink and have a strong fan on top with no heatpipe. If an aftermarket cooler don't help then I will keep the one I have.
**EDIT** I mentioned earlier that my first board would no longer boot. I was looking at it Friday and found this. The label has warped fron heat and a hole was burnt into it. I tried to hotflash with present board but it was not recognized during flash.

:( How did the BIOS chip get that hot?
12-10-2006, 02:48 PM
coop

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No idea. My new board though, I finally got a 32m @ 470. Time is slow and took 1.85 vcore 2.0v mch and 1.457 vfsb. Vdimm required is alot. Over 2.65v. But as noted before 1:1 takes alot compared to 2:3 or other ratio.

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