i would rma it to asus you have three years from the day you bought it
Rich
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i would rma it to asus you have three years from the day you bought it
Rich
Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Can you post your bios settings?
I bought the board as a package deal with a cpu and memory on ebay. I live in the netherlands and I bought it from an american seller. So I can;t send it back.
I Think i'm going to buy the maximus formula.
Anybody got suggestions for a good oc board.
Thanks
I wanted to know if this ram will work with this board?
Kingston
1 GB PC2-8000 SDRAM 240-pin DIMM DDR2 Memory Module - HyperX Series
or
OCZ Technology Group
2 GB ( 2 x 1 GB ) - PC2-8000 / 1000 MHz - DIMM 240-pin - 2 x 1 GB DDR2 Dual Channel Is it even worth it with a E6700,currently running @ 3.0ghz, with 2GB PC2-4200 533MHz 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM but I can't seem to raise my overclock past 3.02 ghz without the system giving me a ram timing issue and shutting itself down.
If these don't work, what would be the best in the 800 MHz range, that I wont need to upgrade later.
Yes the Kingston HyperX works good on the Asus P5W DH board.Quote:
Originally Posted by tktnuri
See my sig, i'm use Kingston to..
Has anyone tried a Yorkfield with this bios P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild)
Firstly let me say thank you to the contributors to this thread... Helped me a lot.
I thought I would offer my experience of installing HD3870 in this board after using a X1900XT Crossfire setup.
I removed all ATI drivers and software, shutdown and powered off the PSU. Then removed both my X1900 cards and installed the HD3870 in the master PCI-e graphics slot. After powering up I was locked out at the logon prompt(I connect to a home network and authenticate to a server) by the failure of both the keyboard and mouse. Windows appeared to have locked up.
Anyhow, I messed about for 4 - 5 hours with various boot CDs trying to make things work. Even after reinstall and trying the card in the other PCI-e slots There were lots of problems with undetected hardware and failures of other hardware on the PCI Bus.
I finally reset the mainboard BIOS. ....... And now everything is perfect.
Now the hopefully helpful part of this post is:
If you upgrade to 3870(possibly any PCI-e 2.0 card) from a 1900 Xfire setup, and you have problems, reset the P5W DH BIOS *BEFORE* spending 5 hours diagnosing and fault finding.
very good find thank you for posting this may save someone from pulling there hair out
Rich
Would this motherboard support somehow intel core 2 extreme QX9770 processor?
would it even POST?
Hey guys, can you help me???
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=168630
I need a help to do overclock too...can you help me?
I am from brazil, my english is very bad, sorry :down:
Thanks a lot!
Anyone!?! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by matomatala
I Have a QX9770 in my desk and would like to test if works somehow with this board as well..
I'm almost certain noone here has tried. Why don't you and let us know! I don't think anything can go wrong simply putting it in and trying to boot.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by matomatala
mmm.. that's the plan. Problem is this board does now support 1333 MHz FSB, but QX9770 uses 1600 MHz FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gig4moller
Thing just is, can something go wrong and brake this mot*er*uck*ng board?? :D
I think the worst that will happen is it will refuse to POST. The risk of any permanent damage to your mobo is practically zero.
My question here is: This board was once displayed on Asus' 45nm compatible mobo list, but I do not see it there any more. Is it 45nm compatible? If so, what is the first BIOS to support 45nm?
The first bios to officially support it (as was on the site) is 2302.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmsch
Also, some site managed to get a QX9650 working on the P5W64 WS Pro even though it wasn't "officially" supported, so normally this applies to the P5W DH as well.
To matomatala, I don't think anything can go wrong besides it not POSTing like mentioned above. It will probably boot with a lower FSB if at all.
Pleassee guys, i need helpppp :( :(Quote:
Originally Posted by R@ptor =]]
Exactly. I am wondering the same thing. But i think i'm gonna try it on this borad and post the results here.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmsch
Then well see...
It is normal that the actual voltage (like you can read in CPU-Z) is lower than the one you set in the BIOS. Don't worry about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by R@ptor =]]
So the actual voltage in the cpu-z is correct??
setting 1.3400v in the bios its ok for this overclock?
Quote:
Originally Posted by R@ptor =]]
We can't know if 1.34 is enough - it is different from CPU to CPU. You must stress-test it to know if it's stable, and if it is, your 1.34v is enough.
Are my temps too high?
Attachment 68448
Screenshot taken after running prime95 25.5 for about 1 hour. It seems a bit high, especially since I'm running the Corsair Nautilus 500 for my CPU cooler. Do these temps sound about right for a QX6700 @ 3.33GHz? Anyone have the link to the vdroop pencil mod again? I know I can lower my vCore since I drop about 0.06V on vCore at 100% load after a while. And lowering my vCore should help my temps some.
Those temps are too high! you should stay in the low 60's at full load over time to make me happy. Oh and less would be better. I would be working on the introduction of more air to that cooler. What do you idle at? perhaps your fit up is not perfect.
WZ
I would have to double check most of them, but I remember setting the CPU vcore to 1.45v, the mem to 2.15v, max the MCH and FSB term, the ram timings had to be set to SPD, and I disabled the Hyperpath 3. Now, TBH I don't know if all these settigns needed to be applied, but I as afetr a quick and dirty overclock just to get it running. I do know the CPU needed at least 1.45v, because 1.4v wasn't stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sdude
I used to read this post everyday and learned quite a bit in the setup and o/c my board and I thank every poster for it..now my new problem..yesterday my system started acting a little strange..followed by a bsod..rebooted and got past the bios but would bsod again going into windows..tried safe mode still no luck..removed 1 stick of RAM and system finally booted..so I thought..bad stick of RAM..shut down system later on and started again about an hour later..now bios doesn't see my RAID setup..I make sure all my settings are correct in bios and try again and again but still my RAID array is not seen..I don't even get the option to setup RAID..nothing!! So I reset the CMOS and the patient is even worse!! Machine turns on by itself as soon as I apply power!! I get no screens...nothing!! I remove everything connected to my m/b and try RAM, Vid and hdd..but the problem stays the same..I even disconnected all fan headers, case power but as soon as main power is applied m/b starts..removed vid, RAM, hdd from board but as soon as main power switch is turned on..same problem..I figure if I could get into the bios I would be able to do something but I have had no luck getting pass this issue..I think the board is shot and am ready to buy another..anybody agree with me? Thanks
Rip
After I enabled "allow remote control to boot/shutdown PC" or something like that in the Remote Control software (inside windows), everytime I turned the PC's power on at the wall the PC would start booting. I disabled this again (inside windows) and everything returned to normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rippermac
Thanks but I can't even get into XP or anything else right now
Hi all.
i have an Asus P5W DH Delux. with an E6600 Conroe.
I was thinkin of buying a quad core Cpu such as the Q6700.
Im running Bios 2302
Would my board be ok. Is anyone running a system with these 2 components.
c
there are people running q6600 not sure of the 6700 but should be about the same
Rich
Your board is ok. Q6700 is 65nm, 1066MHz, LGA775.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazeconnolly
Thanks Rich (again lol) and mat.
sweet
np some have got 3.6 on there quads seems to help if you have the later rev 103g or 104g boards
Rich
I got 3.4ghz on my q6600 GO, but I cannot seem to get past 380FSB. With 1:1 ram ratio
thats a good clock for a quad i would be happy with it
Rich
Hello to all
I seem to be having issues overclocking this Cpu Mobo combo... It is an E2180 along with the P5W-DH Deluxe, OCZ Reaper PC26400 at 800 MHz timed 4-4-4-15 stock along with an 8800 GT, I have the cpu cooled with a ZALMAN CNPS7700-Cu, so I'm not really wooried about heat yet, also have a fan on the NB, trying to keep that sucker down.
When I try to get the CPU to 3.0 Gigs at 1.25 v all the rest at auto except I have disabled hyperpath 3, windows Vista keeps blue screaning on me but I do pass 3Dmark..odd stuff I find, also when I try to get 3.4 Gig at 1.425v again the rest at default except again hyperpath3, the system wont even boot.
I would love to get it at 3.6Gig but I don't think this Mobo will let me do that.
Would love some help, I have read alot of these pages but it seems to just address the e6600 ( don't have one..tight budget )
Also I have failed to mention the 3.0 Gig setup was with default multiplier.
Many Thanks
under jumper free set your ram for 1 on 1 lower and pci-e 100 or 101 pci to 33 you manufacters ram volts nb 1.65 fs 1.2 bump up mch also
Rich
Does anyone know how to enable 4GB of memory on this board.
im running 32bit vista ultimate.
specs below
c.
I think I idle in the 40s, but I'll check again tonight and post a screenshot. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
In any way, you won't be able to see all your 4gb in vista 32. You will need to switch to 64 bit for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazeconnolly
However, you can already try to enable Memory Remap in bios to see if that helps.
Is this a pretty good setup ?
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2582/testcpuys4.th.png
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1...cpuzzy2.th.png
it seems fine...just not to sure about it.
does anyone here run Vista 64bit.. does it run just as good as 32bit?
c
Quote:
Originally Posted by gwolfman
Here are my idle temps:Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
Attachment 68536
Any ideas?
Also, where is the link to pencil mod for vdroop?
Better..Quote:
Originally Posted by crazeconnolly
GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS
Good:
THE QX9650 WORKS WITH THE P5WDH. I'm using it right now at stock. I have no time to mess around with overclocking. Voltage control works (bumped it up to 1.4v, will lower it later). Using 2403 BIOS. Also there is FULL multiplier control apparently (not tested), so I suspect the MP issue is also fixed with the older chips, where it got broken with 1602+
Bad news:
ATTN: Larywild:
THIS CHIP DOES NOT WORK with your modified BIOS! And I suspect many other 45nm chips also will not work. With your BIOS, it detected a 600 mhz CPU, said ucode error, and any attempt to save any settings in the BIOS and exit, caused the computer to not POST ever again, until a CMOS reset.
I was able to download the 2403 BIOS and flash that (somehow the Ez flash utility still worked right after a CMOS reset) and it STILL didn't post, but after I cleared CMOS AFTER the flash: Presto=)
thanks Falkentyne thats good news for most of use nice to know
Rich
Thx for the info, it looks all good to me, awaiting your further updates. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
seems okay... if you're gonna stay at those speeds then try tightening up your memory timings for improved performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by FritzGuy
ie: currently im not gaming as much so im running at 333x9 (3.0GHz) and i have ram timings at 3-3-3-8 :P
Have you tried any overclocking yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
It propably wont overclock.
This made my day :D
Forget the overclocking. I'm having another problem, and it's serious.
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone is going to be able to help with this, and I could be just completely screwed, but here goes...
Basically, the system is **SLOW**.
It seems to be using something like 1% of the available processing power.
It's FINE in safe mode, but NOT in normal mode.
I'm currently not at that system, but I did a 1M SuperPi run and I think it completed in something like 3 minutes and 48 seconds. I checked Speedfan and Coretemp, and the temps were going up by a whopping TWO degrees at best. I think speedfan went from 34C idle to 35C with Superpi/4 prime threads.
I ran Prime with 4 threads, and the temps went up by again, like 1C or something. I think the cores read: 31C, 32C, 27C, 30C.
When I did the same thing in safe mode, Speedfan went up a LOT more, to 48C. Also, the 1M SuperPi score was around 15.8 seconds...a LOT better than 3 minutes.
Is this a BIOS bug or something? (CPU-Z identifies the CPU, cache and etc correctly). Is this a problem with windows, that can be fixed somehow?
Note: EVERYTHING runs at proper speed if I disable 2 cores in the boot.ini, where the NUMPROC switch is. The problem is when I remove that switch and boot with all 4 cores.
Any suggestions, people? I updated to 2406 with no change.
I need to know if this is a BIOS bug, or is my OS improperly configured somehow, after using a Core 2 X6800 for a year?
I'll buy a new board if I have to, but I want to make SURE it's the board or the BIOS first.
This may not be of help, but why does System Properties, in control panel, say this? (again sorry no screenshots):
Computer:
Intel Core 2(TM) Extreme
CPU X9650 @ 3.00 ghz
360 mhz, 2.00 GB of RAM <---------???
Physical Address Extension <---------??? wth....
360 mhz?
PAE? WHAT? T_T
I changed the multiplier from 9 to 10, and that "360 mhz" became 400 mhz. (core speed was reported at 3.33 ghz).
On my older single core system, that exact same location had the CPU string for 3.4 ghz (P4 extreme Northwood), and showing 3.61 ghz. (yes, overclocked a bit, forgot the exact settings, but 3.6 ghz in BIOS).
:shrug:
Looks more like a driver bug than a hardware problem if Safe Mode works well.Quote:
When I did the same thing in safe mode, Speedfan went up a LOT more, to 48C. Also, the 1M SuperPi score was around 15.8 seconds.
Tried a clean install or another OS... erm, Vista?
Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
does it still run 32bit programs just as good also?
Will i have to re-activate windows when i install a new processor?
c
You actually have 2 GB RAM installed? Or is it 4 GB. Then you'd see Physical Address Extension (PAE): http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system...AE/PAEdrv.mspxQuote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
http://home.planet.nl/~dekk0819/downloads/PAE.jpg
About your problem, Did you enable memory remapping in BIOS?
I have 2 gigs of RAM installed. (2*1 GB of G.skill).
I've tried turning on and off remapping, doesn't do anything.
NOTE, in SAFE MODE, Windows not only does NOT show PAE, it also shows the real CPU speed. But in normal mode, it thinks it's 400-500 mhz.
I think I had that type of performance when I used Intel PAT on my X6800 and set the CPU duty cycle to 87.5%...well then again it was still a lot faster (UT2004 was perfectly playable at that speed).
FWIW, I'm running on 2 cores now and things are running fine so far. (for some reason I had to install new Catalyst drivers or I got blue screens in UT2004 with 2 cores disabled (huh?). I'm at 3.6 ghz and 1.3v (haven't tried lower or higher). If the 4 core thing is a bug, I want it fixed. If it's something with my windows installation, well, huh...... O_O
I tried a repair install, (not a clean install; I can't stand redownloading everything from scratch, HOWEVER I do have a clean empty E: drive...maybe if I'm bored I'll install windows on THAT from scratch later on) that took forever, and even the repair install didn't solve anything (except made my Windows updates uninstallable without that workaround from microsoft for update+repair installations).
It DOES sound like a sort of driver bug, but it doesn't make sense.... why would the OS think my CPU is 400 mhz, but CPUZ finds the real speed ? Not sure what Coretemp reports....My system is completely up to date with windows updates....
If the clean install tomorrow doesn't work, then its CLEARLY a BIOS bug...eitiher that or Yorkfields only work on Vista? (doesn't seem like thats the case...). My gut feeling says it's 70% a BIOS issue. Unless someone else has seen this and can replicate it somehow....
And, why does disabling 2 cores make everything work as it should? (EXCEPT even with 2 cores running, the identification in system properties still says 360-400+ mhz, AND PAE enabled O_O.....) If it says that with 2 cores, why can't the system run at full speed with 4? T_T
People who also have 4 GB installed can also add /MAXMEM=2048 in the boot.iniQuote:
If you must disable PAE but your system processor supports hardware-enforced DEP, add /NOPAE /NOEXECUTE=alwaysoff to your Boot.ini file. Note: This will disable the DEP feature on your computer.
EDIT: sorry Falkentyne for i'm not posting anything usefull info for your problem, i'm only mumbling :D .... your question pointed me to the PAE i saw on my Maximus system...
Hey, Asus didn't take the P5WDH off the 45nm support page for nothing!
Hey, what did I miss??? I want a new CPU next year, and I had my heart set on one of the NEW ones. Not a new motherboard too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unbornchild
Has been posted many times, mikepaul. See ---> http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/
Hi, it seems a driver related problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
Two tries:
one, try a 64 bit live linux distro, it's simple and fast: download the live linux, put into your drive, reboot and start it :)
two, try a clean windows vista install, better if 64 bit.
Good luck :)
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazeconnolly
Possibly.
Like I say, I didn't notice any postings discussing the list being changed, and I see that the list doesn't include the DH Deluxe so I'm seriously annoyed that my good feelings towards this MB from back when it WAS listed were unfounded...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unbornchild
Check the previous page :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mikepaul
how good is the onboard audio that comes with the p5w dh? I was thinking of adding a AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 sound card. Is that a worthwhile investment? (I would most likely be using the digital output). How much of an increase would i be looking at in terms of quality of sound?
New rule: visit daily, read carefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gig4moller
Thanks...
If you have speakers worth more than the Auzentech card costs then it's worth it but if you have cheap speakers then don't bother.Quote:
Originally Posted by whizmsm
Well I'm installing windows on a completely clean drive right now. But I completely expect this NOT to work. I'm convinced this is a BIOS problem.
Just to let you know, with 2 cores, (NUMPROC=2) when I was using Rybka (chess engine, multiprocessor), Core 0 showed 46 C while core 1 showed 31 C -.- Setting the affinity for both processrs of rybka to core 1 made its temp go to around 34C only -.- (core 0 dropped to 39C). Definitely something whacky here. And this is with me overclocked to 3.6 ghz and 1.3v.
I HOPE u guys are right and it's a driver problem.
The only real good news I have is that my windows installation is going FAST. Its gone from 39 minutes to 19 minutes, in 5 minutes.
When I did the repair install, I swear it took 20 minutes to go down 5 minutes...... >.>
*edit again*
more good news i guess, so far...39 minute installation completed in 8 minutes .....
I'll let you know after all the chipset drivers are installed and I have SuperPi running...
ok windows installation took 10 minutes. fastest install ever....
And it reports the CPU speed correctly and all 4 cores shown.
But now I have to install chipset drivers and other stuff...let's see how far i get before something explodes again.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Thanx Mate. Installed Home Premium 64bit and used my 32bit key.
everything seems to be running ok. All i gotta do is get proper cd/dvd burning software.
c.
Ok well looks like you guys are right.
it DOES seem to be a driver problem. but WHAT ? T_T......
I still have catalyst drivers and x-fi drivers to install...
I really don't get it, though...what sort of driver problem could possibly cause a system to choke on 4 cores? It would be nice if any search anywhere found a problem like this and a solution~_~
I could just use this HD as the master and nuke windows on the IDE one connected to the jmicron port, but so many programs to reinstall -.-...at least nothing would have to be redownloaded, but still...I would rather find out what exactly caused this to happen in the first place.
You people have "switched" out a dual core for a Quad, with no problems whatsoever (in the same motherboard), right?
*EDIT*
Found out something else:
On the CLEAN windows install, there is NO "PAE" thing showing in system properties. It simply shows Core 2 extreme (TM) X9650 (no Q) @ 3.00 ghz, 3.6 ghz, 2.00 GB RAM.
in my boot.ini, there's only "noexecute=optin" and "/fastdetect". Yet PAE is NOT on. (and thats how it SHOULD be).
On my "usual" install, as I said above, PAE *IS* on, (unless i force it off by /NOPAE /noexecute=AlwaysOff), and CPU speed is wrong and system is a dog.
So its clearly the same "driver problem" affecting both. But what could it possibly be?
huh, PAT or PAE?
Sorry PAE.
I've been up all night so I'm like very tired right now and can't think anymore....
The new install of windows works perfectly. No slowdowns and no PAE And CPU reported currently as 3.6 ghz (OC).
I'm back at the old install for the moment, trying to figure out WHAT exactly is broken. Needless to say, I wont be reinstalling windows again if I break the 'old' installation somehow; I'll just use the new one then copy the files over.
I STILL want to know exactly what is causing this though...but it seems no one here has ever encountered such a problem, on these forums or elsewhere....once again I'm on my own =(
I will ask again:
Has everyone else gone from dual core to Quad effortlessly on 32 bit XP, on the same motherboard?
Great to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
So just to confirm that if you deactivate PAE on your old setup, everything works OK?
No problem going from E6300 -> E6750 -> Q6600 on mine but it's most unlikely I am getting a retail QX9650 to try.Quote:
Has everyone else gone from dual core to Quad effortlessly on 32 bit XP, on the same motherboard?
The old setup is dead. Nothing works to fix it. My attempts last night were to try to uninstall everything in device manager, until I nuked the PCI bus, which gave me e a dead keyboard and mouse, even in safe mode. :rofl: Thus the repair install, which of course gave me full windows control back, but didn't fix anything cpu speed. I gave up trying to fix it. I'm just going to use the new windows install then copy files over and reinstall whatever games need to be reinstalled. Most of my save games should be fine, as most of the stuff I play doesn't copy anything to the windows folder anyway.
I still wish i knew what happened, though. I see posts ALL the time about people popping in a quad in place of their dual and they're off to the races. Yeah, I was off to the races too...riding on snails....
And no, forcibly disabling PAE did nothing to fix my problem. CPU still reported 432 mhz when set to 3.6 ghz in control panel >.>
For the good news, I'm at 3.7 ghz and 1.3v (1.27 reported) and 370 FSB (multi changed to 10). I tried 4 ghz (400 * 10) and 1.4v just to be safe, but the system (surprise, surprise) failed to even POST whatsoever. And I bet you my left and right foot that has NOTHING to do with the CPU. Running 4 thread prime with small fets, and no problem. CPU#0 reports 52C, CPU1 45C, CPU2 36C <--huh?_?, CPU3 50C.
Who knows how far this chip can go on a current board?
The P5W is famous for acting weird past 370 FSB especially when you start changing multipliers. I'll mess around with higher multis to see if I can run at 4 ghz or not. But at the moment, I'm happy. The fact that I was able to reach 3.7 ghz, and STILL *might* be able to lower the vcore, shows that the P5W *CAN* clock quads pretty well. (I don't think many people were able to get the qx6800 much higher than this). But the 975X's FSB quirks are really annoying. I'll reach 4 ghz (hopefully stable) obviously, but who knows what multiplier/FSB contortions it will take T_T. Clearly its the board's fault that won't make it POST at 400 * 10....
On my X6800, it needed OUTRAGEOUS amounts of voltage (like over 1.65v) to POST continuously at 370 * 10... (most of the time it didn't post at lower voltages), but if it DID POST, it ran fine.
I had absolutely NO problems posting 100% of the time at 337 * 11 (same speed), although it was not game stable at 1.575v ...
Nice, looking good for 24/7 duty but what are your other settings and what Vcore is reported if set to Auto? I am a EIST/C1E fanatic. :DQuote:
at 3.7 ghz and 1.3v (1.27 reported) and 370 FSB (multi changed to 10)
btw, so are you using 2403 or 2406 for the BIOS and have you tried SPD/401FSB (loosens the NB timings) instead of 400?
PS: some have reported load balancing quirkiness in quads on certain stress apps, do a forum search for the thread.
I have no idea about Auto. I've never once touched that setting except after a BIOS flash.
I'm using 2406. Thank god they fixed that rediculous upward multiplier bug; who knows what speed i would be limited to if I had to do something like 420 FSB just for 3.7 ghz (9*400 would be 3.6g). The sad thing is it took Asus a YEAR to fix it. Sort of reminds people about Nexon and Maple story, in the level of support....
I don't feel like dealing with no POST issues right now so I'll try 3.8 ghz later...
thankz for sharing all your work and eford with use looking good
Rich
Easily dealt with - just make use of the Save Profiles in the BIOS.Quote:
I don't feel like dealing with no POST issues right now so I'll try 3.8 ghz later...
Save your present settings in any of the 2 available slots, change o'c settings all you want - just clear the CMOS and reload the profile to get back to your present settings any time you run into problems.
Bios 2406 sets the multiplier on E6600 sometimes to 8 by default.
Guess Asus still canīt build a proper bios.
Sigh
Thanks for all those efforts Falkentyne - So you think with a clean windows install 45nm CPU's will work like a charm (overclocking issues left aside) on this mobo?
Gig4moller:
MY CHIP DOES 4 GHZ ON THE P5W !!
It's the absurd FSB limitations that are screwing up everything!
400 * 10 did NOT post. I don't even want to DREAM About how bad the chip would clock on its default 9 multiplier...probably no higher than 9*370 or something...
370 * 10 was perfectly stable at 1.3v.
380 * 10 was unstable even at 1.38v ! Kept getting either random errors in one of the prime threads or roundoff errors or something after awhile.
And 1.3v to 1.325v simply *locked up* the system hard after a few iterations.
Now I was sitting here thinking I may have a worse chip than evga2000 that won't do 4 ghz at ANY voltage...then I suddenly remembered why I paid $1300 for a chip...
I cranked up the multiplier to 12 and the FSB DOWN to 334.
Yielding 4.01 ghz.
System POSTED (!!), went into windows, ran Prime and laughed at my incompetence. It was the freaking FSB that was holding everything back -.- No idea if more VMCH on the northbridge would have helped but who cares...I have an XE chip....
The temps started getting too hot though, at 1.3875v on the Tuniq heatsink. One of the cores started pushing 72C, then I figured ok that's enough. I have a 4 ghz capable chip, that can probably do a helluva lot more on a board without stupid FSB problems. I'm currently attempting prime at 1.35v at the same speed (4013 mhz). I'm not after 24 hour prime stability anyway, just game stability. If one of the cores doesn't error out in 30 minutes with prime, then I'm good to go. (I will have to find 3dmark 2006 somewhere and run that just to be sure).
So, in summary, YES it works FINE on the P5W! Just be prepared to keep the FSB low and the MP high if you expect it to clock. Unlocked multipliers FTW.
I think it goes without saying that people with locked Multis will want to look at a P35 or X38/48 board, since you WILL be held back. Don't the non extreme quads allow limited multiplier adjustment, BTW?
Only downwards multiplier adjustments I think. Thanks man, good to know ^^ I think I will be fine with 8x370 on a Q9450 :)
The P5W DH lives on!
Don't see 333FSB for a quad as much of a disadvantage for a 24/7 rig cos I am running my Q6600 on my main PC at 9 x 333FSB too.
1. it allows the use of Auto Vcore with EIST/C1E, 3GHz@1.25v down to 2GHz@1.125v 24/7
2. tight timings of 3-3-3-8@667 at low Vdimm
3. low mobo voltages all round needed even with 4 x 1GB of RAM
4. still kills my E6750@450FSB@3.6GHz@Commando at number crunching
So 333FSB isn't all that bad esp. now that cheap HD3870 can be crossfired at 8x8 on the P5W for a very viable gaming rig still.
Good job done, Falkentyne. :)
Thanks for the testing Falkentyne - looks like my board can live a bit longer :-)
Would you like to try these settings (assuming ddr2 800 ram):Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
this settings should let you to post @ 3600Mhz. If your processor is stable, try to raise the moltiplier to 10.Quote:
JUMPERFREE CONF.
CPU FREQ. = 400
DRAM FREQ = DDR2 800 (1-1)
PERF. MODE = STAND.
PCI-EXP = 100
PCI CLOC = 33.33
MEMORI = 1,9 (depends on voltage indicated for you ram)
CPU CORE = 1,400 (try lower first)
FSB = AUTO
MCH = 1,55 (depending on stability you obtain)
ICH = AUTO
CPU CONFIG
CPU RATIO = 9
MICROCODE UPD. = ENABLED
MAX CPUID UPD. = DISABLE
EXECUTE DIS. FUNC. = DIS.
ENHANCED C1 CONT. =DIS.
CPU INTER. THER. CONTROL =AUTO
VIRTUAL. TECNO. = DIS.
RAM
Ras,Cas, ecc ,depending on your ram
DRAM ECC = DIS.
HIPER PATH = DIS.
DRAM THROTTLING = DIS.
PEG BUFFER = AUTO
LINCK LATENCI =AUTO
PEG ROOT CONTR. = AUTO
PEG LINK MODE = AUTO (slow is better)
SLOT POWER = AUTO
10*360 was already stable. There was never any problem with that. Even 10*370 was stable @ 1.3v. It was going HIGHER that started giving problems. 10*380 wasn't fully prime stable even at 1.3875v, and I didn't like the temps, and 10*400 didn't post. But at a 12 multiplier, I had the system actually post at 4.36 ghz (accident; didn't know the FSB was that high), didn't even bother to TRY going out of BIOS; no way I'm going to try to make that stable on a 975X...would be a big fight between trying to find out if the prime crashes were caused by the CPU or the FSB >.>
But it ran perfectly at 4 ghz and 1.3875v at a 12 multi. But the temps got too high so I'm lowering the voltage a tad. I reached my goal anyway--4 GHZ with a quad :)
I've settled on 12*333 (4 ghz) and 1.3625v for gaming and stock (9*333=3 ghz) for 24/7. When I upgrade the board to something that can clock quads on a HIGH FSB without puking, then I'll see how far the chip can truly go. I don't want to have to test a 15 or 16x multiplier to try go past 4 ghz, at a rediculously low FSB >.>
I don't expect I will be able to hit 4.5 ghz on air, even on a X48, without insane amounts of voltage (I'd have to toss the Tuniq and get an Ultra 120 Extreme or that other new HS people are using, for anything above 1.4v)
Previous discussions on FSB vs GHz on graysky's thread,
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=147433
imo, running 4GHz@333FSB is a great achievement already on this old mobo - Striker users woulld prob. be envious. :)
Hey guys. I've been using the P5WDH for almost 6 months now, thanks to Lawry and this great thread.
A few days ago, my PC did not POST after shutting down from the night before. I managed to trace it to 1 of my RAM sticks (I have Crucial Ballistix PC-8500 tracers). I know it's the RAM because, 1) I pull out the offending stick and the PC boots. 2) I put the offending stick in, and it doesn't POST. Nada. Nothing. 3) I trade out the RAM sticks and nothing, again.
After putting all my settings back to default, I ran memtest85+ on the 'working' RAM. I am getting errors on 2 blocks. It seems those two blocks are faulty. I'm currently in the process of getting an RMA for the pair, but had the following question:
In all my months of tweaking, I never pumped up the mem voltage, or freaked out the timings. These chips are rated at 2.2v, at default CAS reads 5-5-5-15 according to memtest and CPU-Z. Could the motherboard have damaged the RAM? It's hard to believe that it's my 2nd pair of defective crucial sticks. Has anyone else had similar problems?
Thanks for any input.
BTW aside from memory problems, I'm pretty happy with the Ballistix PC8500.
That is what recently happened to my 2GB Corsair kit. I'm afraid the P5WDH's volt-instability is the cause for it. I had 2.1v in BIOS, recently i noticed AIBooster was showing 2.2v ( a few days before the RAM died). RMA'd the kit, i now have the new ones at 1.95 in BIOS, AI booster shows 1.95 as well.
Btw, while waiting for the RMA-returning i temporary had 2GB Ballistix PC2-8500 in it, at 1.95. Ran like a charm.
This board officially supports 800Mhz RAM, 1066 'native' (= when you overclock). In the case of using PC2-8500 RAM on this board at 1:1 and timings 5-5-5-15 you're not overclocking at all, rather underclocking. Chips are rated 2.2v for a heavy workload. Give it less volts i'd say.
Falkentyne PAE is enabled by windows if it uses DEP or needs to utilise 36 bit of ram this is documented on microsofts website. I have the PAE in my system control panel applet on my core 2 duo 6420 with 2 gig of ram.
The question is how are you utilising DEP with PAE off? or is DEP not actually on. (you may be running software DEP mode)
I am planning to buy this RAM (G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail ) - does anyone have any experience on how this performs on the P5W DH Deluxe mobo?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122
Any better suggestion around the same price?
I have absolutely no idea.
I reinstalled windows on a clean HDD And now everything works fine and PAE is off.
I did find out what was causing the super slow speed (and yes it was somehow throttling).
It was Intel TAT.
When I installed that on the new install, the system started doing it again. I didnt even have to run TAT for it to start doing it, but running TAT caused "Invalid CPU" error and an exit. Uninstalling TAT fixed it the first time but when I reinstalled it then uninstalled, I was still at "360 mhz" until I rebooted windows.
How could TAT cause THAT much of a slowdown, just by having the driver installed?
Most interesting, iirc TAT was not meant for desktop use in the 1st place. Wonder if it causes the same grief on other newer chipsets with QX9650.
Is this the correct link for the vDroop pencil mod?
http://www.benchzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36
I thought there was a different site as well...
I have no experience with them, but P5WDH manual mentions 256 ~ 1 GB modules support. It could be that the density of 2 GB sticks is too much for the board. If i were you i'd take 4 x 1GB.Quote:
Originally Posted by experttech
In the manual of my Maximus specifically is mentioned 2 GB sticks are supported.
Unbornchild, are you sure ? My manual says:
Quote:
2.4.2 Memory Configurations
You may install 256 Mb, 512 MB, 1 GB or 2 GB unbuffered ECC/non-ECC DDR2 DIMMs into the DIMM sockets.
Jeezzz i picked the wrong manual dammit!, i was quoting from the P5AD2E-Premium manual Page 2-14, item 2.4.2. :p:
Of course you're right! :up:
Edit: and i couldn't find the right manual but just found out i hid it in the P5AD2E-P box! :D And yes of course i read it too, 2 GB sticks supported. :)
I have this MB in a dual boot computer (XP x86 / Vista x64). Under XP, when using Vegas rendering, I cannot get full utilization of the Quad I have... Or to be more precise: when I set Vegas video to 8bit, it renders at 100%, but in the 32bit video mode - only some 50-60% (still all 4 cores, though).
Under Vista x64, I'm always getting 100%.
This makes me think something is wrong with the 4GB of RAM management. Vista x64 can use it all, how much is XP supposed to use? In the system properties, it says 3.0 GB -- shouldn't it be some 3.2GB?
Whitch switches do you have in the boot.ini file? I only have "/noexecute" and "/fastdetect". What is PAE and how it should be used? Ach, anf of course I have RAM remappring feature enabled (so that Vista can see all 4 GB of it); tried to disable and see how it affects XP - no diffeence...
If it's not the memory management, than perhaps some BIOS prob? But is it possible the same BIOS settings are OK for one OS and bad for another?
Any help greatly appreciated - I have to work under XP for some time, as some other apps do not work under Vista x64, and hate to think I'm wasting a lot of time rendering HDV in a non-optimized fashion
Still waiting for an answer regarding the above...Quote:
Originally Posted by gwolfman
Also, what type of pencil am I supposed to use? HB? or a softer one?
Here's another one: http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876
If I remember correctly it is a 2B you need for the mod and it works nicely to.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwolfman
Hey thanks a lot a LOT for this, I couldn't return to the forums as quickly as I'd liked. I am thankful for the input and I will also be looking into getting a stable voltage regulator that actually WORKS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unbornchild
I will definitely try 1.95v in the BIOS.
Yes, it works. Ive done the mod a few weeks ago. Measuring vCore with miltimeter shows absolutely NO vdroop in idle or under load after the mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwolfman
1,375 vcore in bios is 1,374 real for me. And i didnt have a 2B pencil at hand when doing the mod so you will be fine with any pencil.
lol, one set of my Ballistix died tonight. Been running at 2.1v.. Atleast they're still covered by warranty. Just more unwanted hassle I don't need... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by phillydee