Building a Sossaman rig?

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06-05-2010, 07:27 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

I installed from a USB HDD - my dvd drive still isnt being recognised tho :( :down:

Try a IDE DVDRW and JUST that on the cable with the DVDRW set to master
06-05-2010, 07:33 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Try a IDE DVDRW and JUST that on the cable with the DVDRW set to master

the dvdrw is IDE.. I ended up installing from a USB HDD as a solution to the IDE dvdrw not being seen :shrug:

i'm going to check jumper... if that fails I may have damaged the cable during installation - i admittedly was rough with the cable to route it thru a hole I wanted it to go :yawn:
06-05-2010, 07:36 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

the dvdrw is IDE.. I ended up installing from a USB HDD as a solution to the IDE dvdrw not being seen :shrug:

i'm going to check jumper... if that fails I may have damaged the cable during installation - i admittedly was rough with the cable to route it thru a hole I wanted it to go :yawn:

and what bios are you using?
I think it was P04 that was the latest..I think..
06-05-2010, 07:42 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

and what bios are you using?
I think it was P04 that was the latest..I think..

is there a way to check that in windows?
or do I have to reboot?
06-05-2010, 07:45 PM
tiro_uspsss

I think its P04 :)
06-05-2010, 07:46 PM
tiro_uspsss

sorry for image size :(
06-05-2010, 07:53 PM
Movieman

yup, thats the right one..just checked, same as mine.
06-05-2010, 08:18 PM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by D_A

Odd ... I had no trouble. Not something silly like the master/slave jumper not matching the position on the cable is it? (yes I've been caught before, no I wasn't happy about it)

oh me oh my :yawn:

worse still - the problem?: the cable wasnt plugged in properly @ mobo :D :D :D

:nuts:

ok I 'll crawl back under my rock now, if anyone needs me, u know where to find me! :p: :D

:nuts:
:sofa:
06-05-2010, 09:24 PM
D_A

:rofl: you get days like that.
06-05-2010, 11:36 PM
tiro_uspsss

the other problem I have is: one cpu is ~42C, the other 70C :eek: :shrug:

is this normal? is that an error in the reading? or have I not mounted the HSs properly? :(

I'm using CPUID Hardware Monitor 1.16.0
06-06-2010, 12:07 AM
D_A

I'd check that heat sink mount, pronto. Make sure you remembered to a - screw it down, b - put some TIM in there and c - turned the little locking doo-dat in the CPU socket all the way to the "lock" position.
06-06-2010, 12:26 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

I'd check that heat sink mount, pronto. Make sure you remembered to a - screw it down, b - put some TIM in there and c - turned the little locking doo-dat in the CPU socket all the way to the "lock" position.

I admittedly didnt use TIM - thought bare Cu directly on die would be sufficient :yawn:

I just dont understand why one is fine & the other not :shrug:
06-06-2010, 12:41 AM
D_A

No matter how fine the surface looks, there are always pits scratches bumps and hollows. I'd guess that the hot one is more so than the other, but the difference could be only microns or it could be a tiny burr that's become the only point of contact. Regardless, you need TIM for a reliable thermal interface.
06-06-2010, 01:02 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

No matter how fine the surface looks, there are always pits scratches bumps and hollows. I'd guess that the hot one is more so than the other, but the difference could be only microns or it could be a tiny burr that's become the only point of contact. Regardless, you need TIM for a reliable thermal interface.

well the temp read 100C about 5 mins ago.. I think the temp software is off..
06-06-2010, 01:17 AM
D_A

Did you remount the HS with some decent TIM?
06-06-2010, 02:14 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

Did you remount the HS with some decent TIM?

nope.. I have some AS5 somewhere.. busy installing programs.. if it really did hit 100C, wouldnt it have melted down, shut down or something?
06-06-2010, 02:21 AM
D_A

Maybe. The thermal shutdown relies on logic reading the internal registers, not a calibrated temperature switch and even then there's no way of knowing how good the protection actually is. Some chips can fry themselves before the protection can react.
06-06-2010, 04:13 AM
retro77

Just stop installing programs and shut it off and get some TIM on there. Even some Arctic 5 will work too! You're going to fry it. What a waste.
06-06-2010, 04:39 AM
Mr_Slinky

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Originally Posted by retro77

Just stop installing programs and shut it off and get some TIM on there. Even some Arctic 5 will work too! You're going to fry it. What a waste.

Agreed it would be a waste if you kill a hard to find CPU.
06-06-2010, 05:18 AM
tiro_uspsss

:sofa:

ok.. I did it.. temps: CPU1: ~40C, CPU2: ~32C

:D :D :D *runs & hides*
06-06-2010, 08:23 AM
retro77

Nice work Tiro. I burnt up a CPU and a mobo like that before.
06-06-2010, 08:39 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

oh me oh my :yawn:

worse still - the problem?: the cable wasnt plugged in properly @ mobo :D :D :D

:nuts:

ok I 'll crawl back under my rock now, if anyone needs me, u know where to find me! :p: :D

:nuts:
:sofa:

A little trick I learned the hard way years ago.
Whenever I build a new system when I'm done but before firing up I get up, walk away,grab a coke,coffee,etc take a few mins away from the system and then come back and physically touch and check every connection.
Visually inspect everything.. Takes maybe an additional 3 minutes but you'd be surprised at how often you find something thats loose and generally loose from after you'd connected it but loosened it with a hand that was working on another connector.
Just makes for a good final check and has saved my butt many times.
06-06-2010, 09:38 AM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

A little trick I learned the hard way years ago.
Whenever I build a new system when I'm done but before firing up I get up, walk away,grab a coke,coffee,etc take a few mins away from the system and then come back and physically touch and check every connection.
Visually inspect everything.. Takes maybe an additional 3 minutes but you'd be surprised at how often you find something thats loose and generally loose from after you'd connected it but loosened it with a hand that was working on another connector.
Just makes for a good final check and has saved my butt many times.

hahhahaha i had 2 sticks of ram that werent "clicked" on the bottom for like 4 months lol. on my main rig... :shakes:
06-06-2010, 10:14 AM
Duh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

A little trick I learned the hard way years ago.
Whenever I build a new system when I'm done but before firing up I get up, walk away,grab a coke,coffee,etc take a few mins away from the system and then come back and physically touch and check every connection.
Visually inspect everything.. Takes maybe an additional 3 minutes but you'd be surprised at how often you find something thats loose and generally loose from after you'd connected it but loosened it with a hand that was working on another connector.
Just makes for a good final check and has saved my butt many times.

well said.. sometimes I need some rounds of that routine you described to see what is causing the issue :D
06-06-2010, 06:38 PM
tiro_uspsss

:sofa:

*shy voice*: permission to come aboard captain?

;) ;) :yepp:

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