!UPDATE! abit AW9D-Max (retail) arrived

@ MrDeeds, I set with uguru the mch to 1.72v and it measured the same with DMM. Voltage reading in uguru "voltage" = 1.81v. Repeated with 1.83 and uguru "voltage" page showed 1.92v. So it does change, but mine at least, reads high. (.09v for both).
doh *edit* I will now confirm what shimmishim found and answer the original question as well.
Yes, vfsb=1.242 dmm and vtt 1.2 = 1.28v
vfsb=1.250 dmm and vtt 1.2 = 1.29v
I'm using bios 1.2 atm. I don't know if calibrations are different between versions.

@ shimmishim, (below) my first board died Sunday (sad). It just would not boot..stopped at 9.0. I had the vfsb and mch up, 1.489 and 2.025 respectively. I was trying to go faster. I did the same thing with a really good 7800gt a few weeks ago. Anyway I had another one from an rma replacement I was going to sell and never did, so I unsoldered all the vr's and put them on the one I have now. You can adj. all volts till it shuts off basically. I can't really say what happened to my first one but hi vfsb and or vmch may not be to good. All my temps are always below 40c for the uguru temp readings.

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@ MrDeeds, I set with uguru the mch to 1.72v and it measured the same with DMM. Voltage reading in uguru "voltage" = 1.81v. Repeated with 1.83 and uguru "voltage" page showed 1.92v. So it does change, but mine at least, reads high. (.09v for both).
doh *edit* I will now confirm what shimmishim found and answer the original question as well.
Yes, vfsb=1.242 dmm and vtt 1.2 = 1.28v
vfsb=1.250 dmm and vtt 1.2 = 1.29v
I'm using bios 1.2 atm. I don't know if calibrations are different between versions.

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I'm using beta13b03

i set 1.49 DMM = 1.51 uguru

vmch doesn't change when you set it. but from what i've seen, when set at 2.0 volts, real is 1.89, a droop of .11.

if you do the booster mod, the droop is only about 0.03 which i have measured before with a DMM

Woosh! Pulled battery and cleard CMOS ate a bite, and replaced battery and whala she boots again. Holy crap thought the board was a gonner.

Wounder why my board dont load the F7 save?

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Originally Posted by Blue078

Woosh! Pulled battery and cleard CMOS ate a bite, and replaced battery and whala she boots again. Holy crap thought the board was a gonner.

Wounder why my board dont load the F7 save?

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was it from saved settings or changes you made bedore you save settings and THEN pressed f6, i save and exit my settings then re-enter and f6 to save, also it may not work if it was saved from a previous bios and then you upgraded bioses and try f7... just a guess... f6 and f7 work fine for me.

No they were settings I had saved last week {same BIOS} But I did find out I hadnt flashed to the 13-B03 BIOS :slapass: I was still on the 13-b2, maybe that had something to do with it?

I've flashed to 13-B03, will try tomorrow and see if saveing a new set with this BIOS works. Sure thought I'd lost the board for awile their. Despit the BIOS issues I like this board better than any C2D board I've had to date.

Heres my first test after full V-mod not that high volt on it and with single EXTREEM PC2-6400 my other stick died before on my asus board.
VCORE- 1.55v
MVCH- 1.60v
VFSB- 1.35v
VDIMM- 2.25v
real volt.
timings 4-4-4-10
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6...lockie6.th.jpg
All is on air..

...so whats up now with that 1333 strap? When do we all get a Bios with this strap. I don´t even know why now there is such a mystery ´bout this alpha bios with that strap. Think we have to call Special Agent Moulder and Scully to find out whats up with our strap. :D
Maybe those Aliens kidnapped that strap or the :usa: Gouvernment likes to get real high FSB at AW9D-Max first.

I want that strap NOW !!! :)

If a bios is ALFA version, this means that it's on testing......Beta is a "pre-final" release......Now imagine that you get an ALFA bios and you burn your mobo!......What would you say?....:)

Do you think it's gonna be released an beta bios with the 1333 strap ?

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If a bios is ALFA version, this means that it's on testing......Beta is a "pre-final" release......Now imagine that you get an ALFA bios and you burn your mobo!......What would you say?....:)

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I´d say: "F**k! Now I gotta do a hotswap with my other AW9D-Max. But I didn´t do that a long time ago. So I wanted to do a hotswap again anyway." :D

So, everyone himself (and only himself) is responsible for flashing BIOS. No matter if alfa, beta or final. If I burn my BIOS by flashing an alfa then its me I´m gonna thank for this and not abit, xs or hipro5. As I know flashing bios always voids warranty, does it?

So, I think I´m a little experienced with flashing bios. Did that about 500 - 1000 times already and about 5 times I really flashed some bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: into the CMOS. But that doesnt`t mean that the board is fuc*ed up. Almost in that Case I did a hotswap and all was fine again. In the remaining cases I programmed that eeprom in an eeprom-burner.

My warranty is allready void by doing all your cool mods to my AW9D-Max, just like I did to my former systems board, the IC7-G. It did about 1 year 24/7 running with your mods and now it´s retarded but still runs fine. Thanks again for inventing those excellent mods.

...at last, I´d be really happy by getting a pm from that little birdie you told us. ;)

Whats all the damn begging about.:horse: It obviously hasnt gotten any of you the bios, so share relevant info pertinent to the board or shutup.

Back Ot:
I didnt measure my vfsb before i did the mod :slap: and i havent used this multimeter in months so i removed the mod and measured the vfsb stock and i got a reading of 1.38. So im not sure if i've got a bum multimeter or if my board is overvolting the vfsb.

More than likely its the multimeter, i'll check later when i get home.

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Whats all the damn begging about.:horse: It obviously hasnt gotten any of you the bios, so share relevant info pertinent to the board or shutup.

Back Ot:
I didnt measure my vfsb before i did the mod :slap: and i havent used this multimeter in months so i removed the mod and measured the vfsb stock and i got a reading of 1.38. So im not sure if i've got a bum multimeter or if my board is overvolting the vfsb.

More than likely its the multimeter, i'll check later when i get home.

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are you sure? you have to be really accurate with where you place the DMM... i found that moving it like a tiny tiny amount will cause the voltage to change by a lot at times.

the stock voltage is around 1.2-1.22. try to measure it again. this time measure it at the leg where it touches the mobo pcb. that's where i measure it.

any improvement with the new 1333strap bios?

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Originally Posted by tictac

any improvement with the new 1333strap bios?

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is there any beta out now?

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Originally Posted by Nitemare

is there any beta out now?

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not yet.

hipro has an alpha bios with the 1333 strap but it hasn't been released to the public yet.

Watching this thread like a hawk....

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Originally Posted by shimmishim

not yet.

hipro has an alpha bios with the 1333 strap but it hasn't been released to the public yet.

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...I already knew...

waiting for that strap sucks

I know that patience is a virtue, but waiting for the next official BIOS release is just unbearable already. I know they are making sure things will work out, but hey September to December (see the gap?) isn't necessarily a short time. Given, they may have seen the issues sometime October, it's still such a long time.

This board works great with Conroe, but I wish it'll work just as well with Kentsfield without hard modding it. CPU VTT is just too low for Kentsfield to sustain high FSB :(.....

I guess I'll be waiting for the next top of the line mobo instead of hoping for this board to get a boost for Kentsfield.

Guys, how much vMCH are you guys pumping to get 400FSB pass ORTHOS stable?
I could run memtest all day long and 2xSPI32M with just 1.6vmch but it will fail ORTHOS in a matter of seconds.
I'm on E6300 that does 3GHz Orthos stable on stock Vcore and OCZ PC8000 Ti Alpha VX2.
As for the RAM, I couldn't get it to run 500MHz at 4-4-4.. even if I gave it 2.65VDIMM.
If the AW9D-MAX wants 2.0vMCH to do 429FSB Orthos stable, I'll start to bang my head against the wall.
IIRC, I had an Asus 975X board that does 429FSB Orthos stable with just 1.8vMCH.

Look forward for your input...

You won't be running your ram on this board at 500, 1:1 anyway. Different ratios no problem though. Around 1.86v to 1.92 should be ok esp. with stock cooling on the chips. More has not been much benefit to most. If you can keep your board/chips cool you can try up to 2.0v for max fsb runs. I found that at 1:1 quite a bit of vdimm is needed.

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Guys, how much vMCH are you guys pumping to get 400FSB pass ORTHOS stable?
I could run memtest all day long and 2xSPI32M with just 1.6vmch but it will fail ORTHOS in a matter of seconds.
I'm on E6300 that does 3GHz Orthos stable on stock Vcore and OCZ PC8000 Ti Alpha VX2.
As for the RAM, I couldn't get it to run 500MHz at 4-4-4.. even if I gave it 2.65VDIMM.
If the AW9D-MAX wants 2.0vMCH to do 429FSB Orthos stable, I'll start to bang my head against the wall.
IIRC, I had an Asus 975X board that does 429FSB Orthos stable with just 1.8vMCH.

Look forward for your input...

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i dont get at 400fsb with 2,0 vmch orthos stable, so thats me, others might get stable

Ok... I know it wont do 500MHz mem on 1:1. Tried 4:5 and 2:3 for 500MHz mem, getting errors on memtest, lots of em'. I heard this board is good up to 470MHz mem stable only... sighz
Anyways, back to the FSB thingy. Swapped out the stock NB cooler and hooked up a Thermalright HR-05 onto it. Its cooling well and I booted at 429FSB (1:1) with 1.7vMCH (did that on the stock cooler too).
Fired up Orthos, errored out after 5 minutes.
Bumped to 1.8vMCH (via uGuru), ran Orthos but errored out after 5 mins again. Same thing at 1.9vMCH too.. error after 5 mins.
So gave it all I've got and ran 2.0vMCH.. guess what, error after 5mins of Orthos. So much for AW9D-MAX... Bumping vCore or even vDIMM didn't help me get past 5 mins in Orthos without errors.
However, it passed memtest #5 and dual Super PI 32M easily.
Currently on BIOS 13.B04. Originally was on BIOS 12...

Hilfiger: 2.0vMCH at 400FSB still ain't ORTHOS stable? Man... I miss that Asus P5W64 WS PRO :(

I did achive orthos stable at 410fsb have you tried lowering your vmch to 1.60 thats good spot for me.

Hmm.. 1.60vMCH = 410FSB Orthos stable? I don't think I can do that as even at 1.60vMCH, it was not Orthos stable.

Anyways, a little update. Gave it 2.0vMCH and now at 400FSB. 25mins into Orthos and no errors yet. Will let it burn-in until the next 12 hours or so, with TR HR-05 on the NB of coz.