How well does this board work with 8gb of RAM? Any recommendations for Ram in this type of configuration?
Also, will the latest boards being sold boot a Q9450 or E8400? Or do I need some sort of older backup chip?
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How well does this board work with 8gb of RAM? Any recommendations for Ram in this type of configuration?
Also, will the latest boards being sold boot a Q9450 or E8400? Or do I need some sort of older backup chip?
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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Multi unlocked and working with 17B04. :)http://members.aol.com/Mm2246220/images/9650.JPG
Cool!:)
hi deanzo!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanzo
i know 17.b02 did not unlock the multi on my 9650...but...as you see, 17.b04 appears to do the trick as posted above.
i tried to get my hands on a QX9770 but i was unsuccessful.
it doesn't surprise me about your 9770 issues since Abit is having a difficult time addressing the 9650 unlocking problem until now.
have you tried using the 9770 on an X48 board or X38 board?
38920mhz is hella clock :D
I've booted the CL3 Dominators from 1.8-2.4 with no issues...don't see why CL4 would have a hard time. The Pro doesn't seem to be very picky about whatever RAM it gets. I've used CL3 OCZ, CL4 Ballistix.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkDisciple
new beta bios is nice..a keeper
Anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by davewolfs
Mine works great with 8 GB of RAM. See sig for details.
Awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by dstedman
How about compatibility with the Q9450? If I order a board from newegg now, are there any chances that it won't boot?
Out of curiousity, did you have to do anything weird to it at all? Did you have to relax the timings, down-clock them or increase voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by dstedman
Just curious. ;)
It's one of the best P35 boards with the Q9450 (mine's at 3.8ghz). But you probably won't get near that with 8gb installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by davewolfs
I just had to up the memory and MCH voltages a touch for 8gb with a Q6600. But my Q9450 wouldn't run at the same clocks with 8gb as with 4gb. Tho that's simply because the Q9450 was running on its FSB limit, and 4 sticks mucked that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroCreep
Upppp!!!!!!!!! anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by kotty
Kotty, what relation does your PSU fan have with the motherboard? Unless it has an external plug to run the fan with a motherboard header (I've never seen one and can't really think of a good reason for it), the PSU is probably spinning the fan up because it's getting warm. As far as CPU temp, you're running water, right? Are you positive it's mounted securely and squarely? What BIOS version do you have? Does it change when you put it under load or just randomly jump 20c? FanEQ is one of the better fan controlling interfaces around. Unless you have no fans, I wouldn't think it would be prudent to disable that...unless you just like fans running 100% all the time.
Are the latest boards shipping with a bios that is Q9450 compatible?
Hey mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Just flashed to 17.b04, everything seems fine with my QX9650 (though it was only on for about 10mins)
I've put the QX9770 back in, and it now posts all most every time :p:.
It will even try and boot into windoz (the HDD I had on was for the 9650, so I didn't let it go all the way)
What it wont do, is enter the bios, No way in hell was it ever going to do it. Tried for over an hour! every time I tried it would stick at post code 75 :shrug:
I've got a Asus P5E3 Premium WiFi-AP (X48) board here as well, takes a bit to get your head around. But when you do, runs nice.
I don't know if it's just this board or all of them, but this P5E3 Premium runs well on air. But as soon as I try to run at -140c it's a total pig, so much so if it was mine I'd run over it with the car!
So I was going to try the IP35pro to see what the QX9770 could do. As you know my Abit board loves the cold :D
Think I may try and get my hands on a XFX 790i Ultra and see how that does.
I'll let you know how the new bios goes cold when I get the time.
good luck with your 9770...it sure looks like Intel through everyone a curve when it comes to running that puppy with consequences...i wonder if that 9770 would work on my giga X48T board?..hmmm...my 9650 works good on the X48T without any hindrance.
i am kind of glad that guy never sold me the 9770...it would have been money down the drain!
Just received Team XTreem DDR2 667 D9GMH from Tankguys. Considering they were $55 shipped, I'm pretty happy with them. I've had them running all morning at 1085 MHz 4-4-4-9 1T (2.3v). Not bad for PC5300:shocked:
I RMA'd my Abit AB9 Pro and seen as its discontinued, they are sending me a free Abit IP35 Pro \o/
Running anything at CAS4 & 1T at 1085MHz is F'ing amazing!Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
1GB sticks?
D9GMHQuote:
Originally Posted by AstroCreep
Yep, 2x1. I may have to loosen them up a bit more. Starting to get a few errors. They do like the voltage. Tried to lower to 2.5v and XP forgot who it was. I'll try 4-4-4-12 and see if it is happier.
be careful with that Vdimm...your modules might give out after a short time....all it takes is one chip to go ka-put!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
Sorry, typoQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I meant tried to lower to 2.25 (from 2.3). I think 2.3v should be OK on D9GMH...any thoughts?
Question: Using Memset(v 3.5), what is performance level? Is higher or lower better?
2.3v is about as high as you want to go for extended periods of operation....better yet, get a fan on the memory modules if you do not have one...but...that does not preclude you from having a failure if one of the chips was not manufactured to high standards....over-voltage always kills and if one of the parts has a weak link already, it wouldn't take long.Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
ace what would you go for Ip35 pro xe or Ip45 pro for ddr2, thanks fomer Ip35pro user.
i would definitely go for the IP45 Pro...but, that is me....i am not sure that the IP35 Pro XE is really going to bring that much more beyond what the IP35 Pro has done...i could be surprised...i think abit is trying a marketing ploy to extend the life of the IP35 series, which has done well for abit.
here is what the IP45 GT3 looks like (borrowed image from here)
EDIT:...short article on the overview of the IP45 series X48: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Abit-...et-80321.shtml
LIKE THIS: "The two new offerings from Abit will come with standard 8-phase CPU power regulation"...AND...it appears that the X48 will have 5 phase digital PWM power...i rather have seen 8 phase digital PWM power...oh well.
A BETTER ARTICLE:... http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...7579&Itemid=37
thanks ace, is the ip45 pro ddr3 or ddr2. i feel the same about the the 35 sieries,i think abit trying to hold on to somthing good they had.
they will have both versions according to the articles...there will be an IP45 (i presume, Pro) which should be ddr2 and then an IP45 GT3, which will be ddr3
thanks ace!!! ,mbe if the price wright, i will go for IP45 PRO and the IX48 Max.
I have updated to the 17b04 BIOS from the 16b10. Everything is ok. One thing I have noticed so far is that the memory bandwidth has been slightly increased.
16b10 [left] 17b04 [right]
a big jump in the read speed...that is pretty good!
Well now that I've had a chance to play with it, my RAM is happy at 2.275v 1042 MHz running 4-4-4-9-22-3-3-3-3 1T. No Memtest errors at this speed HOWEVER at 3.9GHz, my E8400 will run Orthos for about 22 seconds before farting.
In Memset, is "Performance Level" better with higher or lower values?
@ 18
Lower Performance Level means faster System. There was an article some time ago on anandtech.com about this issue. But I canīt find the link right now.
Guys please help me fast!
I have bought a Q6600 G0 today and CoolerMaster HyperTX 212 (installed with 2 fans).
Im using bios v17, my Q6600 temp reported 58C@idle !!! at the bios and in uGuru in windows! what the hell is this? is this a bios problem? While coretemp .99 reads all cores around ~35-40 at idle...whats is going on?
Thanks!
I haven't tried many bios for my ip35 pro. I liked 16 for my q6600 so I stuck with it. I don't use uguru so I can't comment on that. But I wouldn't be surprised if certain bios gave faulty readings, it happens.
Use BIOS 14 or 16 for the Q6600. 17 is meant for the 45nm chips, and I found 14 to be a bit better for clocking the Q6600's.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean_php
Thank you, but for sure, are coretemp 0.99 readings (38, 35, 35, 36) for cores are OK? I will try v14 later. thanks.
Not too bad. Tho idle temps mean very little.
Ok, I installed v14 bios and idle temp is now reported at 27C in bios and uGuru which is a massive 30C lower than v17 reading. Thanks all.
i've been running stable at 390x9=3.42 with the DRAM set at 1:1, vcore is at 1.3025(CPUID @ 1.27 idle). it's been fine but when i change the ram timing to 4-4-4-12 @2.1v, it won't seem to run stable, with glitches and random crashes. Bios version V16
Here are my system specs
Abit IP35 Pro
Q6600 2.4@3.42
Ram (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034)
The ram is rated to run at 4-4-4-12 @2.1 but i can't seem to get it working.
Any suggestions in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
390 * 9 = 3510Quote:
Originally Posted by saberflare
What are your other voltages set at? You've only mentioned vdimm.
sorry i meant 380x9 my fault. what is vdimm?Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
just an update , 8 months with the abit and i am more than happy , one of the best mobos i have had after the DFI LP nf4 series. http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3024/13115036ui7.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3...5ae32717b3.jpg
it can do 520 fsb on air , 500 24/7 but lowered to 450 cause summer in Greece is hot and my TRUE couldnt cope with the heat (if coretemp was right ofcourse) , low voltz vcore=1.3 , vdimm=1.95 and nb=1.37 . Great mobo i must say
hehe, I kinda figured it was a typo or some other no biggie ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by saberflare
Your vdimm is the ram voltage. You're so close to that 400fsb I think you can get it without too much trouble even if you have to loosen the ram timings a little. What are your other voltages in bios like? How are your temps, pay particular attn to pwm temp as well as your cpu cores.
vdimm is set at 2.1. all other voltages in gios r stock except for cpu. temps for cores under load with core temp at 56,49,55,49, with everest it's 49,55,49,55 pwm temp with everest is at 52. all temps r in celcius.Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
There's a huge review database at newegg for that ram and while overall it looks really good, there is also a portion of people who never really had success with the 4-4-4 timings. If you are going to try and keep pushing upward with the clocks you'll have to nudge some of those voltages upward as well. These are my settings for a q6600 @ 3.6ghz:
vcore:1.4675v
cpu vtt:1.27v
mch:1.37
ich:stock 1.05v
ichio:1.5v
cpu gtl ref:61 and 61
Of course every setup is unique to some degree but that should give some reference for experimenting. You may find that going even higher with the mch will help with those corsair timings, I don't know.
Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
cool i'll give it a try thanks for the help
Hi again,Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
can you pleae tell me what temps are you getting when cpu is in full load state? coretemps aswell plz.
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/tmpscrn.th.JPG
You can see the obvious difference between realtemp/coretemp because of the tjmax rating. Either way that matters little to me. It runs fully loaded 24/7 and uptime is outstanding. Cooler is a xigmatek hdt-s1283 with 2 fans push/pull.
I've had an Abit IP35 Pro for a while now, with the following spec:
Q6600 G0
2GB OCuk PC2 8500
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...0Channel%20Kit)
ATI HD2900XT
Tagan 480W
The CPU is great and will sit at 3.6Ghz with no problems (400x9) but whenever I try and get some FSB/RAM bandwidth out of it I have a shedload of problems...
First of all, I can't get over 400-425 FSB, even with a 1:1 divider, 6x multi, and upped volts...
Secondly, I can't get th memory up to stock speed whatever I do... (using a 2x divider and 266 FSB etc)
Lastly, I have just bought another 2GB of the same RAM, and I can't for the life of me get the PC to run with all 4 sticks in... (this is at the default 800Mhz)
I've tried all I can think of to resolve this... including raising VTT, MCH, lowering GTLRef, upping VCore... etc etc but to no avail.
The settings I've been using/tweaking are:
MCH: 1.20V - 1.50V
VTT: 1.20V - 1.29V
ICH: 1.05V - slightly above, cant remember numbers
ICHIO: 1.5V - slightly above, cant remember numbers
GTLRef: 61% - 67%
DDR Ref voltage: 0% - +2%
DDR Voltage: 1.80V - 2.30V
RAM is running 5-5-5-18 2T
So what do you guys think the issue could be? Do I just have a really sh***y board? Or is it the RAM? Has anyone else used this RAM?
IMO Your 480watt power sounds very weak to this system! you need atleast a 680 watt power for that system.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinymod
really? sounds unlikely to me... the PSU doesn't seem to be struggling at all... it's not hot, and the rails aren't fluctuating... and being a tagan it's *actually* 480W, and not "close enough to 480W to call it that". Also i've been running this system for months at higher CPU speed with no problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by sean_php
When I had my CD2 e6320 on this mobo, I was not able to posh it any more than 420FSB (with any kind of multi combo and ram settings) I was thinking of bad mobo, but I am able to do FSB480 with my new Q6600. I have temp problems though. it seems that cooler master hyper 212 is not doing its job very well or maybe I am not installed it in a best possible way.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinymod
I suggest u to test ur system with another pair of rams or another cpu.
Thanks m8. great OC with your rig, GZ!Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
can anyone tell me what is the maximum core temp allowed for q6600?
When Im testing 34000@1.38v, the OCCT will stop testing after ~3 minutes due to high core temps. please see the attached file :
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/2...16-CPU1.th.jpg
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/2...6-VCore.th.jpg
mmm, i'm tempted to say it's not the CPU, just because it won't boot with a higher RAM divider... but I've ordered some more RAM anyway so i hope trying it with that will shed some more light on the matterQuote:
Originally Posted by sean_php
shinymod,try up ichio 1.60to1.65
shinymod,try up the ichio to 1.60 to 1.65, my pro board was same way just need play with the voltage and a little more mch.
I think the upper limit of cpu temp on a q6600 is really only reached when you feel uncomfortable with it or it won't run stable. OCCT will definately generate lots of heat and stress the system very well. A couple things to consider, case airflow and placement. I like that sunbeam case and I have a similar one but even the best case designs and fan setups aren't going to help if the case is jammed in a cubby, wedged in a corner, or near a heat source. The ambient temp of course is always very relevant with air cooling. The one test I looked at with that coolermaster sink was at anandtech. The results using the stock fan were very middle of the road and that looks like what you're witnessing first hand. Once they strapped on dual fans the difference was impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean_php
Thank you m8,Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
my case is not placed in the best possible location in my room, also ambient temp is rather high. btw I am using 2 fans with my 212. I'm geting close to idea of bad installation of the fan so I will definitly reinstall it with a better thermal compound soon and report back.
thanks.
@ SpartikuS411.. concerning e8400
since i cant return the pm.. i post it here
higher voltages didnt get me 500x9 until lowered GTL.. between 50-60
all cpu settings @ disabled
anybody has some info about the IP35 Pro Xe?
only difference seems 1600FSB to me, any other differences?
Could someone tell me what the best bios is for memory clocking/stability regardless of CPU? I keep reading 14 and 16betas are good
65nm CPU's should use v.14 or some of the v.16beta versions. IIRC v.16beta03 was the good one for 65nm's, but one of the newer ones may work; sorry my memory fails me at the current juncture. v.16final & v.17beta are tailor made for 45nm CPUs and will give you funky temp readings on your E6750.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
Simple question...does this board play nicely with 4 sticks? I need more RAM and need to know if I should get 2 more sticks of Ballistix or replace them with 2x2GB.
I can't search with the number "4" or I would have already.
It will work with four sticks just fine. You will definitely need some additional MCH voltage though. Depends on the sticks and your overclock as to how much. Of course, use the least you can to maintain stability. I've seen it take anywhere from 1.33v (two .04v steps from default 1.25v) to 1.41v with marginal sticks. Since you're open to getting 2x2G, it will probably clock better with two sticks than four. Additionally, some with four sticks find that they need an additional .05-.10Vdimm, though that's rare. Rarer still is the necessity to loosen timings if neither of those things work. Neither of these last two steps are needed in the vast majority of cases.
FWIW, if you are going that route, I'd stay away from Ballistix. At the abit forums we've seen quite a few sets get RMA'ed/returned/sold. It seems we may have the reason why as well. See this thread...more specifically this post, which is a copy/paste of a conversation with a Crucial rep. Long story short - they quit producing 16-chip 1Gb modules in favor of the cheaper (and less reliable) 8-chip sticks. No reason aside from it being cheaper. Quality apparently doesn't enter the picture as was essentially verified by the rep. Bear in mind, this is just my personal opinion and is based on that thread among other anecdotal evidence and I'm not speaking for abit or the abit forums (heh, nor do I have any authority to do so!). Again, just FWIW.
Thanks for the information. I have run 4 sticks in the past (4x512MB on DFI NF4) so I am aware of the necessary voltage increase and slower timings needed.
So if I bought Ballistix now, I wouldn't be getting the same thing I'm running now...great. I love these sticks though...500mhz 5-5-5 @ 2.0v and never had a problem for almost a year now and I use them heavily. I do have another 2 sticks that were bought at the same time, in another system. I could take those out to have 4 matching sticks, then put new memory in that one instead.
What's the better route? Pull the other 2 sticks or buy a new 2x2GB set and sell my 2x1GB set?
I need to find what the best 2x2GB setup would be then...too bad you pay more for the density.
ive tried both my e8400s again for 500x9 @ bios 16
and both cpus dont even boot into windows no matter the volts/GTL
prior to bios 16.. both were running 500x9 stable
abit - whys every bios they release so different @ oc? same goes for intel/foxconn mobos..
Congrats dude!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cob
Can you tell me what voltages are you using?
I'm getting really nuts to get my OC stable.
No you won't at least not from NeweggQuote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
What do want for you're 2X1's? Are they the 16 chip Double density that we've grown to love? Ordered some from newegg 2 wks. ago and got the Crap ones. They're on their way back. I used Ballistix in so many builds for other people and they are all happy campers and now that I want to do a build for myself I can't get them any more.
Yeah they are the good ones, bought last summer. I may pull my other 2 sticks from the other computer and go 4x1. I'll buy another set of something to replace them.
I hope I can still do 500 5-5-5 with 4x1GB.
If you want to sell 2 of the good ones let me know. I'm lookin' at G.Skill, Geil, Muskin, and supertalent....decisions,decisions.
Go to tankguys.comQuote:
Originally Posted by ChuckM
I spent $42 plus shipping.
Sorry if this has been covered already....I read through about 100 pages and didn't see anything so...
Ok just got a e8400 and IP35pro tonight and was having the weird temp probs many were having with the bios 14. Flashed to 16 and now CPUZ is showing half clock speed and the same vcore that it was showing under the old bios (i bumped it by .2).
Is bios 16 more stable for wolfdales than 14? Any bios setting suggestions. I am having trouble getting it stable above 3.5. Should I leave the options in "CPU Feature" alone or turn them off?
Thanks for any help you can give.
Hi what bios is best for overclocking Q6600 please ??
I had very good results with the first release on myQ66 GO, after that I changed of mobo, only 4 cpu alimentation phases :/Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieuk23
I'm currently using 16 but I see a lot of people having great success with q6600 on 14 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieuk23
I'm still on 14 on mine from Oct... 3.4-3.6ghz... haven't had any need to goto 16, no issues and just lazy I guess.. if it aint broke dont fix it kinda thang.. sys in sigQuote:
Originally Posted by loonym
i am also wondering what rev is the best for the wolfdales atm. thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Halvie
17b4 here with no issues, actually has better memory scores in Everest too.
500x8 on my E3110 @ 1.32 vcore 24/7
16 final was made for Wolfdales.Quote:
Originally Posted by lyl
Careful with 17b4, some reported problems...check on abit forums:
http://forum.uabit.com/showthread.php?t=124502&page=145
Thanks for the heads up, not running any raid atm.
So far so good for me :)
16 beta? or final?Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
by the way thanks to the guys that helped with my memory questions - i've now bought 2x2gb of gskill pc2 8000 and the problem's have been resolved :)
well 16 final is the worst bios for my 2 x e8400Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
gotta give the 17b4 a try then..Quote:
Originally Posted by eaa315
updated to 17 b4 but its no different than 16 final..
i just cant boot into windows @ 500 fsb anymore.. 500x9 nor 500x8
prior to 16 i was running 500x9 stable
some sort of cap..
oh well, itll be handed down to some else.. time to move on to x48+ddr3
16 final is a must for wolfdale;)14 have a huge vdroop,something like .2v:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Halvie
I've heard people complain about vdroop on some IP35pro's, but mine's .04v with 14..Quote:
Originally Posted by OC4/3
also I have 2 GA-P35-DS3L's running Q6600's and they have different vdroops using the same bios. one is .06 and one is .09
so I don't know how much a bios ver really has to do with vdroop, I think it's more the board itself.. just like different chips in the same stepping oc different, different boards in the same rev with the same bios have different vdroops.
otherwise it would be more uniform across boards in the same model and mfr date..
Yes, it's bios 16 final. Seems very stable, temps look good. Vdroop is in the area of .04v which I think is minor compared to a couple other boards I've seen such as the ds3l as MikeB12 just mentioned and also my msi 780i. The more I oc the nv board and push the volts the worse the droop gets. I'm not sure I ever really tried 14 unless that's what it came with. I really can't recall but the board has been virtually issue free since I did Ace's heatpipe fix to solve the crazy pwm temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinymod
Guys,need help here......
Everytime i change the memory voltage,The computer does not boot......its 1.8 default,if i change 0.5 it does not boot.......but o notice that it only happens when i insert a stick on the fourth memory slot.......if i try it without any memory on this slot,it does boot.......
This start to happen like a week ago.....
any ideas???? i have 4x1gb crucial tracer 8500
What are your other voltages like? Are you certain all the sticks are ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by kotty
yeah,im sure they r okay.....the problem is with the fourth slot i think....Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
all my voltages are stock......
try running 2 sticks with one in the 4th slot. I've never tried ocing ram or voltages with all ram slots filled, that was always preached as a taboo... and is why I went with a 2x2gb kit when I wanted 4gb... anyway, that's how you can try to isolate whether it's the slot, or just because all the slots are filled..
Anyone running RAID 0 on the IP35 Pro? I'm contemplating going with RAID 0 on my Summer build and just wondering what RAID support is like on the IP35 Pro
Thanks :)
Under Vista Ultimate 64 bit, it is great. No f6 garbage and everything works out of the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
That huge droop only occur on E3110(Wolfdale) and IP35 Pro bios 14:mad:Something like .15v-.2v,after flash to 16 final,it is much more normal:D But i am using a bad E8400 now:(Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeB12
Running fine with 2x 74GB Raptors in RAID 0 since Sept '07 here...Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
if you are using the difference from what is set in the bios and what is readout as actual voltage, that is a big mistake...vdroop is the difference between actual voltage at idle and the actual voltage at load in windows....forget what the indicated bios voltage setting is set to.Quote:
Originally Posted by OC4/3
Does abit ip35pro support celeron d347? If yes, what kind of bios with?