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03-14-2009, 08:33 PM
Xel_NaGa

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Originally Posted by headala

Man, I'm SOOO glad you figured it out! IMHO a lot of problems with this board are due to it's narrow selection of (undocumented) compatible PSUs. I think as long as you have the Antec from BB, you might as well RMA it and see if the replacement works better. Worst that can happen is you have the same problem.

I use a PCP&C 750W and mine runs like a champ; I'm very blessed in that regard. Maybe you should look through some of this thread and see what other folks who post good experiences have listed in their sigs for their PSU???

This thing is AMAZING I'm at stock CPU and DRAM voltage sitting at 200 BCLK ( 4000 cpu 1603 Dram) in the bios with stock cooler running at 40C. I have a Termalright120 with fan sitting right next to it just WAITING to be used. is this average?

Good idea I will call Enermax tomorrow and see what they say. From what I have seen from trying to fix this issue most people are using the Corsair 1000HX but thats a good idea I should look at what everyone here uses to get a range of options.
03-14-2009, 09:20 PM
pungpond999

AMAZING ci7
03-14-2009, 10:06 PM
Xel_NaGa

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Originally Posted by pungpond999

AMAZING ci7

are you saying the ci7 in general is amazing or this particular one?
03-15-2009, 05:11 AM
SteveS

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Originally Posted by Xel_NaGa

SO... does this mean something is wrong with my enermax galaxy? or does it just not like this PSU?

Damn funny, I have exactly the same issues, I have stripped everything from the Mboard and it wont post, I have exactly the same PSU. I am now waiting on a replacement to arrive getting a Chieftec PowerSupply 1200W CFT-1200G-DF, so hopefully this will fix the issue.

Question I have is anyone using the Lian Li Tyr PC-X2000 case? I have one on the way and was wondering if it was a good buy or not. How easy it is to install water into this case?
03-15-2009, 07:12 AM
theoldtimer

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Originally Posted by Xel_NaGa

Right after I posted this I went to grab some dinner and thought the only thing I haven't tried was a different PSU (even though im typeing on a PC running on that PSU) so I picked up an Antec 550w from best buy (gatta love the BBY rental policy) and it instantly fired up and works AMAZINGLY man do i love that animated bios logo.... so looks like you nailed it with that 4th recommendation thanks for the support!

SO... does this mean something is wrong with my enermax galaxy? or does it just not like this PSU? should I RMA the PSU? is anyone else running the EGX1000EWL in their R2E system? or look for a new PSU? if so what should I get? Im looking to OC to at least 3.6-4.0 and im running 3x285GTX. I was looking at the Corsair 1000HX or is that not enough? what do you guys think?

I had an Evga X58 before the Rampage II Extreme using a Corsair HX 1000 psu but both systems had random shutdowns along with boot problems both cold and warm. I swapped every piece of hardware that I thought could have caused the problem. It turned out to be the psu. I installed a Corsair 850W psu and the system ran great @4.2GHz with two GTX260’s in SLI. I RMAed the Corsair 1000W then received the replacement psu last Monday. I don’t know what was wrong with the first one or if Corsair has changed something in the design but the new one runs great. I’m running the system @4.24GHz with three GTX260’s in tri-SLI now and I haven’t had one shutdown or boot issue with the replacement psu. I’m not saying I recommend this psu just stating my experience.
03-15-2009, 08:52 AM
dejanh

Yeah, it does seem the board is a bit picky re: PSU. I think it wants really clean and stable power.
03-15-2009, 10:26 AM
headala

Wow, I can't believe that I'm asking such a noob question, but here goes: which voltage corresponds to VTT on this board? Sorry I'm an idiot.
03-15-2009, 10:35 AM
dejanh

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Originally Posted by headala

Wow, I can't believe that I'm asking such a noob question, but here goes: which voltage corresponds to VTT on this board? Sorry I'm an idiot.

QPI/DRAM...check your PM by the way...
03-15-2009, 01:31 PM
Rodriguez

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Originally Posted by SteveS

Damn funny, I have exactly the same issues, I have stripped everything from the Mboard and it wont post, I have exactly the same PSU. I am now waiting on a replacement to arrive getting a Chieftec PowerSupply 1200W CFT-1200G-DF, so hopefully this will fix the issue.

Question I have is anyone using the Lian Li Tyr PC-X2000 case? I have one on the way and was wondering if it was a good buy or not. How easy it is to install water into this case?

I've got one & it's a great case, you're gonna love it, very tall. I'm using a chiller to cool my components so everything is external & can't say much about fitting a rad in there, but I've seen people install the radiator vertically in the front fan grill.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=11

You can find more info & builds on the X2000 in the "case" section of XS
03-15-2009, 03:48 PM
recent

How much blck could REII do ?

i had last night i7 940 and all i could get was, 4,4 Ghz and 4,6 Ghz with turbo @ blck 200 ..
201 was allready ower the limit and crashed ? :|
tried even more voltage and LN2. :|
03-15-2009, 05:08 PM
BustaH

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Originally Posted by recent

How much blck could REII do ?

i had last night i7 940 and all i could get was, 4,4 Ghz and 4,6 Ghz with turbo @ blck 200 ..
201 was allready ower the limit and crashed ? :|
tried even more voltage and LN2. :|

Its a mystery, chips are hit and miss, some guys are seeing nice clocks with minimal settings, others are using fine tuning to get good results.
there doesnt seem to be anything uniform about this board, no magic settings as far as ive seen or experienced, its a matter of trying everything.

Djaneh has seen 220 bclk so has cstlk and venom crusher, these are rare though i think. 220 is the limit I think uncore I believe prevents it going higher.
03-15-2009, 05:46 PM
Xel_NaGa

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Originally Posted by bustamove44

Its a mystery, chips are hit and miss, some guys are seeing nice clocks with minimal settings, others are using fine tuning to get good results.
there doesnt seem to be anything uniform about this board, no magic settings as far as ive seen or experienced, its a matter of trying everything.

Djaneh has seen 220 bclk so has cstlk and venom crusher, these are rare though i think. 220 is the limit I think uncore I believe prevents it going higher.

is there a thread that will catch me up to speed on Core i7 OCin and is there some certain settings for the R2E that would be a good starting point?
i was able to just set the BCLK to 200 and lock in my memory volts everything else on auto... and was able to install windows vista but now its starting to BSOD and act kinda funky on the desktop.
03-16-2009, 08:38 AM
BustaH

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=877
03-16-2009, 08:47 AM
dejanh

Quote:

Originally Posted by bustamove44

Its a mystery, chips are hit and miss, some guys are seeing nice clocks with minimal settings, others are using fine tuning to get good results.
there doesnt seem to be anything uniform about this board, no magic settings as far as ive seen or experienced, its a matter of trying everything.

Djaneh has seen 220 bclk so has cstlk and venom crusher, these are rare though i think. 220 is the limit I think uncore I believe prevents it going higher.

QPI link speed limitation prevents the BCLK from going past 222MHz in general. Whether it is the result of chip or chipset limitations is yet to be determined. So far though I would be inclined to say that it is a chip limitation rather than the chipset since only certain processors can hit QPI link speed past 4GHz and still do so stably.

On a different note, check out my OC thread here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=220984 and feel free to drop in a line :)
03-16-2009, 10:38 AM
TechAnalyst

965EE + Rampage II Extreme Help Overclocking

Anyone offer any recommendations to get more of an overclock

MB - Asus Rampage 2 Extreme
CPU - 965EE
RAM - OCZ Reaper 1866 6GB Triple Channel
CPU Cooler - Termalright Ultra 120 (lapped)
Fan -
VGA - 2x evga 295 gtx plus w/backplates
PSU - enermax revolution 1050
HDD - seagate 1.5tb
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AI overclock - manual
OC from CPU level up - greyed out
OC from Memory level up - 1800
CPU Ratio setting - 29

CPU configuration
CPU Ratio Setting - 29
C1E Support - disable
Hardware prefetcher - enable
Adjacent Cache line prefetcher - enable
Intel Virtualization tech - disabled
CPU TM Function - disable
Execute Disabled bit - disable
Intel HT Technology - enable
Active Processor Cores - all
A20M - disabled
Intel Speedstep tech - disable
Intel Turbo Mode tech - disabled
Intel C-STATE tech - disabled

BCLK frequency - 133
PCIE frequency - 100
DRAM frequency - DDR3 1600MHz
UCLK frequency - Auto
QPI frequency - auto

Dram timing control
1st iformation - auto
2nd information - auto
3rd information - auto

EPU II phase control - full phase
Load-line calibration - enable
CPU differential amplitude - auto
Extreme OV - disabled

Current voltage 1.320v - 1.812v - 1.38v
Cpu voltage - 1.325
CPU PLL voltage - auto
QPI-Dram voltage - auto

Current voltage 1.131v - 1.508v - 1.111v - 1.508v
IOH voltage - auto
IOH PCIE voltage - auto
ICH voltage- auto
ICH PCIE voltage - auto

Current voltage
DRAM Bus voltage - 1.65
DRAM REF voltage - auto

Debug mode - string
Keyboard TeakIt comtrol - disabled

CPU spread spectrum - disabled
PCIE spectrum - disabled
CPU clock skew - auto
IOH clock skew - auto

I can run with 1.325 and a multi of 29 non stop (20 hours prime95). Anyone recommend a way to get past either by higher multi or BLCK?
03-16-2009, 10:46 AM
TheGoat Eater

I got my BCLK up to 227.84 - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=220749 - as you can see there, it took me 20~ hours to do so and figure the board out, it was on a Mugen II HSF
03-16-2009, 11:33 AM
dejanh

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Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

I got my BCLK up to 227.84 - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=220749 - as you can see there, it took me 20~ hours to do so and figure the board out, it was on a Mugen II HSF

Honestly man, it's not the board, it's the chip. There is no setting that will make my or many other peoples BCLK go any higher than 222MHz (indeed that will usually be 220.8MHz or thereabouts). Well, I guess it could be the X58 chipset somehow having an effect on this and maybe your board happens to have one of the few more decent X58s but I doubt it. Just for kicks, get a different (retail not ES) 920 chip and try to run the same BCLK. Very likely you will not be able to...

Don't cherry pick a chip, just pick one up, any one.

Edit: Does anyone know why the board does not want to correctly set the BCLk when one sets it? Like 222MHz always appears as 220.8MHz, 205MHz appears as 204.8MHz, 208MHz appears as 206.8MHz...that sort of thing...any ideas?
03-16-2009, 10:17 PM
Xel_NaGa

I'm sorta new here so I dont know if this is the proper place for these kinda pics but ....
OC Results to follow once I receive the new power supply that will hopefully work on this puppy. Initial tinkering looks promising. I was able to keep auto everything except for DRAM voltage I set to stock for my ram and the BCLK to 200 and was able to install vista and got to the desktop.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...5/IMG_1054.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...5/IMG_1052.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...5/IMG_1056.jpg

And I know some of you might of seen this issue with your cases ... some not so much but I think it will be ok in my situation... there is little room for the air to go else where but out the back of the case.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...5/IMG_1057.jpg
What do you think?
03-16-2009, 10:58 PM
dejanh

Why is your case upside down?
03-16-2009, 11:35 PM
cstkl1

hmm advice u to get a 8 slot pci casing
look at ure last card
wonder where the exhaust is.

8++ slot pci casing's

thermaltake speedo advance 8 pci
lian li armor p80 10 pci..
lian tyr2000 8 pci
03-17-2009, 01:17 AM
BustaH

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Originally Posted by dejanh

Honestly man, it's not the board, it's the chip . There is no setting that will make my or many other peoples BCLK go any higher than 222MHz (indeed that will usually be 220.8MHz or thereabouts). Well, I guess it could be the X58 chipset somehow having an effect on this and maybe your board happens to have one of the few more decent X58s but I doubt it. Just for kicks, get a different (retail not ES) 920 chip and try to run the same BCLK. Very likely you will not be able to...

Don't cherry pick a chip, just pick one up, any one.

Edit: Does anyone know why the board does not want to correctly set the BCLk when one sets it? Like 222MHz always appears as 220.8MHz, 205MHz appears as 204.8MHz, 208MHz appears as 206.8MHz...that sort of thing...any ideas?

I cant agree with you on this one. I dont believe its the chips [some of course yes], If you put your chip in a dfi or evga board im sure you would see it do higher bclk.
cstkl has used same chip on two boards, second Board has given Him higher bclk, that points to the board. its the board that is the limiter not the chipset or chip as far as max goes on r2e. Chipset is the same on all x58 boards, its the power delivery and bios imo that determines first what its going to be capable of.
gigabyte/evga/foxconn and dfi have seen way over 220 bclk. coincidence? no I dont think so.

goateater is the only person I've seen go past 222 on R2E.:confused:
03-17-2009, 03:02 AM
Bootsy

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225 bclk on my REII and have gone as high as 230. I think it a combanation of board and chip. With the same chip I could not get over 215bclk on my Evga board. Testing a Bloodrage board now.
03-17-2009, 04:05 AM
recent

Khmm, i can't get my BCLK ower 200 any opinions ?
have tryed with both, 920 & 940 both cpu's can make up to 220
but with Rampage can't go ower 200 BCLK :|

ok, now i got working on 205, but can't get stable.. V 1.575
03-17-2009, 07:24 AM
dejanh

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Originally Posted by bustamove44

I cant agree with you on this one. I dont believe its the chips [some of course yes], If you put your chip in a dfi or evga board im sure you would see it do higher bclk.
cstkl has used same chip on two boards, second Board has given Him higher bclk, that points to the board. its the board that is the limiter not the chipset or chip as far as max goes on r2e. Chipset is the same on all x58 boards, its the power delivery and bios imo that determines first what its going to be capable of.
gigabyte/evga/foxconn and dfi have seen way over 220 bclk. coincidence? no I dont think so.

goateater is the only person I've seen go past 222 on R2E.:confused:

Yes and goateater is running an ES chip. Every one of X58 boards has been like this. Some chips do high BCLK some don't. I'm not excluding that the board plays a part in this but I can for sure say the chip plays a big part. Some chips do better in R2E, some in EVGA, some in DFI, some in Gigabyte, and some in Biostar...even if you look at the ES sample of the new D0 chips that Criminal is testing the highest BCLK he got was somewhere around 226. EVGA held a competition for highest BCLK some time ago and only literally a handful of people got their BCLK past 222MHz. Even here, look at the other posts following yours. Bootsy scores higher on the R2E than EVGA. It is a combination, and it's a mess. To say that R2E is just bad and DFI is say better is not true. Cstkl1 for instance was impressed by the DFI running high uncore and lower voltages which he could not do on the R2E but when I did my uncore tests, I can do 4GHz at less than 1.45V, and 4.35GHz with just 1.56V on QPI/DRAM. It's a hit and miss. Even some preliminary results that I have seen for EVGA Classified are no different and that is supposed to be the mother of all X58 boards. Highest BCLK on one set of tests I've seen...226MHz...and that's on a $700 CAD board ($450 US minimum).

If somebody can prove to me that the choice of the board in case of X58 will enable me to get higher overclocks in general (BCLK, CPU, and DRAM) I will kick the R2E to the curb immediately. Unfortunately nobody so far has shown this conclusively. I know that out of the four or so i7 940s that I tested this one hits the highest BCLK. The second chip I tested did not even hit 210MHz.

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Originally Posted by recent

Khmm, i can't get my BCLK ower 200 any opinions ?
have tryed with both, 920 & 940 both cpu's can make up to 220
but with Rampage can't go ower 200 BCLK :|

ok, now i got working on 205, but can't get stable.. V 1.575

Are you increasing your QPI/DRAM voltage or just Vcore?
03-17-2009, 08:16 AM
Xel_NaGa

Quote:

Originally Posted by dejanh

Why is your case upside down?

its not its just the design on this case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstkl1

hmm advice u to get a 8 slot pci casing
look at ure last card
wonder where the exhaust is.

8++ slot pci casing's

thermaltake speedo advance 8 pci
lian li armor p80 10 pci..
lian tyr2000 8 pci

Yeah thats what I was showing in the last picture. I know its inside the case, but as you can see that part is meshed anyways and from the inside the case is kinda lipped in a way that the air has no other option other than going out the back mesh.

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