ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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11-04-2006, 02:11 PM
HeadShotWI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubiconx3

Anyone hear anything about a BIOS to fix the hard boot? I heard the P5W has a beta out that fixes it.

What do you mean fix the hard boot?
11-04-2006, 02:14 PM
Rubiconx3

When you overclock it shuts off. Instead of a "soft" reboot. i have phase and it screws it all up
11-04-2006, 02:38 PM
heikis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubiconx3

When you overclock it shuts off. Instead of a "soft" reboot. i have phase and it screws it all up

0711 has it fixed. but the latest official is 0804.

though after changing voltages/FSB/mem ratio it hard boots. but once you have it set it doesnt.
11-04-2006, 02:53 PM
Rubiconx3

Thats the thing. I cant set anything because the hard reboot makes my vapo shut down and i lose the settings :(.
11-04-2006, 02:53 PM
ingenue007

is it just me or does the newest bios have restarting issues. i can't reboot from windows. nothing comes up on the screen after. i have to shutdown and push the button to restart. works fine through that method.
11-04-2006, 03:18 PM
Ziwro

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4...lstablegn1.jpg

This is my 7/24 settings

1.5v cpu
2.3v ram // 425MHZ, 4-4-4-10

Do you think Ram voltaj is high or safe ?
11-04-2006, 09:24 PM
swiftex

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

I have 4gig of ram. If I set the extended address in bios it registers it as 2gig, if I have it off (default if not mistaken) I get 3gig. You got 2 video cards? That might explain for another 512megs going missing.

As well I get 3gig in windows without any switches as well.

yep, running 2 7950's so that probably explains things, mem for each video card is 512k, so does that mean windows takes 512k back as well?

thanks for the response.
11-04-2006, 09:44 PM
dnottis

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

I have 4gig of ram. If I set the extended address in bios it registers it as 2gig, if I have it off (default if not mistaken) I get 3gig. You got 2 video cards? That might explain for another 512megs going missing.

As well I get 3gig in windows without any switches as well.

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14822
11-05-2006, 02:22 AM
Sadhana

Quote:

Originally Posted by -TR-ZİVRO-TR-

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4...lstablegn1.jpg

This is my 7/24 settings

1.5v cpu
2.3v ram // 425MHZ, 4-4-4-10

Do you think Ram voltaj is high or safe ?

Imho, your setting is too much voltage on cpu, bro. And for the ram voltage, I'm sure your setting is fine. Have you tried tighest timing?

Here is my daily use:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...SB496_4438.png

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...__496_4338.png

Validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=135461
11-05-2006, 02:41 AM
c_fun

Slow HDD performance + slow explorer browsing +Audio issues

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftex

i wonder if bios problem with drivers, i disabled HD Audio and added x-plosion sound card and other weird things happened, but all told things are running well, i heard ahci does not perform well period but no data to back that claim,

ok guys as I have written before when u disable the drivers or the hardware itself via bios ) regarding the HD Audio) , you regain fast boot time and fast browsing in EXPLORER (I'm not referring to IE).

Now here is my analysis,
Obviously the Audio drivers are at fault here, and this seems like they are competing for the bus with the Hard disk controller, this is either a PCI Latency issue, were one of those takes the BUS and not releasing it quickly enough for other to use it. or a PnP (Plug and Play ) issue where resources are shares in a manner that creates conflicts.

To demonstrate this is a conflict between the 2 (HDD controller and Audio)
Just go through explorer to where u have MANY levels of directories.
Place your mouse on the main root directory and start clicking like mad ...going through the whole hierarchy of subfolders.
You will notice u are getting the Sand clock icon instead of the arrow at time and things aren't going blazing fast but with some hangs (u can go all the way back with the back arrow on explorer and feel the same)

Now notice you here a "Click" each time u double click a folder? This is part of the windows sound system.
If you go into control panel and look for SOUND and AUDIO->SOUNDS tab look for 'Start navigating" at the bottom then choose NONE for its action instead of the Wav file for it.
And go through the process above you will have lightning fast browsing experience. (Notice you WON'T hear any "click" no more.

This illustrates that when accessing the drive and Audio simultaneously we have a "competition" like even here, for either shares resources or PCI time.

i know this may be a bit too in depth but if someone at Analog devices or Asus happens to read this, it may point them in the right direction to fix the Audio drivers, or bios in for PnP with this Audio device.

If anyone else has anything to add I will be happy to hear more.
11-05-2006, 05:40 AM
sluzbenik

Thanks for that tip C_fun, that does speed up folder browsing. PoS onboard sound.

BTW, I sent an email to Asus and Corsair re: the Twin2x2048-6400 ram timings. Asus said they would fix it if we can give them all the correct timings. We still don't know where that guy came up with them but I tested them overnight, and I am 8 hours Memtest stable. Hopefully they can fix this, I bet a lot of people are running unstable and don't know it, I was for a while there!
11-05-2006, 07:15 AM
ManagHead

Someone here who can help me achieve higher FSB? My cpu is really good, and is doing 4GHz on water. But it looks like my mb stops at ~505 FSB. I have tried to raise both the FSB and NB voltage to maximum. I have also tried 0711 and 0614 bios. Anything else I have to try? Testet my ram with 1:2 divider, and it ran Superpi 1m easily at 560MHz!

Anyone?
11-05-2006, 07:40 AM
Brahmzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by c_fun

ok guys as I have written before when u disable the drivers or the hardware itself via bios ) regarding the HD Audio) , you regain fast boot time and fast browsing in EXPLORER (I'm not referring to IE).

Now here is my analysis,
Obviously the Audio drivers are at fault here, and this seems like they are competing for the bus with the Hard disk controller, this is either a PCI Latency issue, were one of those takes the BUS and not releasing it quickly enough for other to use it. or a PnP (Plug and Play ) issue where resources are shares in a manner that creates conflicts.

To demonstrate this is a conflict between the 2 (HDD controller and Audio)
Just go through explorer to where u have MANY levels of directories.
Place your mouse on the main root directory and start clicking like mad ...going through the whole hierarchy of subfolders.
You will notice u are getting the Sand clock icon instead of the arrow at time and things aren't going blazing fast but with some hangs (u can go all the way back with the back arrow on explorer and feel the same)

Now notice you here a "Click" each time u double click a folder? This is part of the windows sound system.
If you go into control panel and look for SOUND and AUDIO->SOUNDS tab look for 'Start navigating" at the bottom then choose NONE for its action instead of the Wav file for it.
And go through the process above you will have lightning fast browsing experience. (Notice you WON'T hear any "click" no more.

This illustrates that when accessing the drive and Audio simultaneously we have a "competition" like even here, for either shares resources or PCI time.

i know this may be a bit too in depth but if someone at Analog devices or Asus happens to read this, it may point them in the right direction to fix the Audio drivers, or bios in for PnP with this Audio device.

If anyone else has anything to add I will be happy to hear more.

c_fun,
thanks for the post man - I never made the connection between the onboard audio and Windows Explorer - that really is annoying as hell.

Does this have anything to do with why the P5B takes twice as many splash bars to load at boot compared to my P5W (same exact compnents other than onboard sound?)
11-05-2006, 07:59 AM
c_fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brahmzy

c_fun,
thanks for the post man - I never made the connection between the onboard audio and Windows Explorer - that really is annoying as hell.

Does this have anything to do with why the P5B takes twice as many splash bars to load at boot compared to my P5W (same exact compnents other than onboard sound?)

Basically its a result of a missbehaving Driver of the Audio H/W and/or PnP settings it has in it. (to answer your question in short then YES)
if you will remove the H/W driver and put the SoundMax Audio section at "Disabled" status, you will once again regain fast boot time.
the Audio driver seem to be at fault, either it conflicts/ or share resorces it shouldnt imo, or have some pci latency settings that cause other h/w to operate slowly since its not behaving according to "normal" protocol.

The P5B Deluxe will be a SUPERB board one the drivers mature.
11-05-2006, 08:04 AM
c_fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by sluzbenik

Thanks for that tip C_fun, that does speed up folder browsing. PoS onboard sound.

BTW, I sent an email to Asus and Corsair re: the Twin2x2048-6400 ram timings. Asus said they would fix it if we can give them all the correct timings. We still don't know where that guy came up with them but I tested them overnight, and I am 8 hours Memtest stable. Hopefully they can fix this, I bet a lot of people are running unstable and don't know it, I was for a while there!

I got an answer from the guy who gave the timing settings.
he basically used memset program to READ the EXTRA registers when things where working fine in SPD.

then he just put them out manually , seems the default manual setting for the extra settings arent ok with our RAM modules.
so basically its taken from the SPD settings.
11-05-2006, 08:19 AM
hot_fifty

please someone tell me what to do with my pci-e 1x problem. It happens at 420FSB to 450FSB, but not at for example 356FSB.. Hmm I have a X1900GT card and have tried pci-e freq up to 110mhz and SB volt til 1,7
11-05-2006, 08:25 AM
Vizion

I have a serious, obnoxious, problem with cold boot on this board. I usually shut down my machine at night and turn it on next day which is around 16hrs after shut down( work in the morning). Everytime, it gives me a 1-long-beep and 3-short-beeps. I searched AMI beep code and it seems to relate to memory first 64kb or something like that.

With that in mind, my machine is 8hrs stable in Orthos so I don't know what's wrong, only happen at cold boot(where everything is cold). If I shut off and turn it back up in an hour, I'm ok.

Can anyone help me diagnose this weirdness? My settings are in my signature below. Thanks.
11-05-2006, 08:41 AM
noobee

Quote:

Originally Posted by c_fun

ok guys as I have written before when u disable the drivers or the hardware itself via bios ) regarding the HD Audio) , you regain fast boot time and fast browsing in EXPLORER (I'm not referring to IE).

Now here is my analysis,
Obviously the Audio drivers are at fault here, and this seems like they are competing for the bus with the Hard disk controller, this is either a PCI Latency issue, were one of those takes the BUS and not releasing it quickly enough for other to use it. or a PnP (Plug and Play ) issue where resources are shares in a manner that creates conflicts.

To demonstrate this is a conflict between the 2 (HDD controller and Audio)
Just go through explorer to where u have MANY levels of directories.
Place your mouse on the main root directory and start clicking like mad ...going through the whole hierarchy of subfolders.
You will notice u are getting the Sand clock icon instead of the arrow at time and things aren't going blazing fast but with some hangs (u can go all the way back with the back arrow on explorer and feel the same)

Now notice you here a "Click" each time u double click a folder? This is part of the windows sound system.
If you go into control panel and look for SOUND and AUDIO->SOUNDS tab look for 'Start navigating" at the bottom then choose NONE for its action instead of the Wav file for it.
And go through the process above you will have lightning fast browsing experience. (Notice you WON'T hear any "click" no more.

This illustrates that when accessing the drive and Audio simultaneously we have a "competition" like even here, for either shares resources or PCI time.

i know this may be a bit too in depth but if someone at Analog devices or Asus happens to read this, it may point them in the right direction to fix the Audio drivers, or bios in for PnP with this Audio device.

If anyone else has anything to add I will be happy to hear more.

ummm, i can't comment on the interaction between the sound and harddisk driver, but i don't think this test is quite valid, unless you verify that the speed goes to slow again after you reenabled the sound driver: ie

1. with sound driver enable => hdd slow
2. disable sound driver => hdd fast
3. renabled sound driver => hdd slow again.

i think you just simply cached all the directory metadata in memory, which is why the second (and subsequent) time will be fast.
11-05-2006, 10:00 AM
Seufari

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManagHead

Someone here who can help me achieve higher FSB? My cpu is really good, and is doing 4GHz on water. But it looks like my mb stops at ~505 FSB. I have tried to raise both the FSB and NB voltage to maximum. I have also tried 0711 and 0614 bios. Anything else I have to try? Testet my ram with 1:2 divider, and it ran Superpi 1m easily at 560MHz!

Anyone?

Mine stops at 506 even with voltage everywhere. I am setting it at 500 for 24/7. I hate to be motherboard limited, but oh well...
11-05-2006, 10:02 AM
Cappie

Just read my posts a couple pages back and you'll see he's absolutely spot on with his remarks about audio and slow boot. I knew all about driver problems of P5B but couldn't exactly pinpoint it, so I installed one driver at a time and I left audio drivers for last, all the while I could boot into windows with 4,5 splash bars, no matter how many times I rebooted. Then I came upon c_funs post, wanted to test his theory, installed those audio drivers and next reboot and boots to come splash bars now take about 12,5 to 15,5:mad: :mad: Note that when I had the 4,5 splash bars I even had HD audio option enabled in bios, so its not the setting in bios that causes this, its the actual drivers themselves, this is SIMPLE and TESTED FACT. I installed windows enough times by now on this board to know all of its quirks inside and out. Asus needs to get their act together and fix this crap, fix the hotswap and fix those pathetic audio drivers.
11-05-2006, 11:03 AM
Big SturL

May I ask, what is the latest and/or best BIOS for the p5bdlx currently out there? I'm setting up a system for a friend next weekend, and I'm already starting to gather the required drivers and firmwares.
11-05-2006, 11:03 AM
Pyr0

Big Sturl, you can get the latest bios (0804) here:
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...uxe%20Wifi-AP/

i'm still using 0711, haven't had a chance to try the latest yet

[edit] anyone tried older soundmax drivers?
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/audio/ad1988/
11-05-2006, 11:14 AM
Big SturL

Okay, tnx. I knew I could find the BIOS there and all, but I was wondering if there might be modded and hopefully "better" BIOS out there. But if the 0804 is the best, then that's fine with me.
11-05-2006, 11:14 AM
Cappie

I have tried this one,

2K_XP_v5.10.01.4570_DTS

and the one from the asus cd which is this one I think,

SoundMAX ADI1988 Audio Driver

both have same issue!
11-05-2006, 11:45 AM
china

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vizion

I have a serious, obnoxious, problem with cold boot on this board. I usually shut down my machine at night and turn it on next day which is around 16hrs after shut down( work in the morning). Everytime, it gives me a 1-long-beep and 3-short-beeps. I searched AMI beep code and it seems to relate to memory first 64kb or something like that.

I've got the same thing with mine. It doesn't happen that often when I turn on the computer for the first time, but almost every time if I just reboot. I don't know what causes it, I'm just trying to learn to live with it...;)

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