ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

I notice you're running an old 8mb Raptor 36GBer. I'm pretty sure the older ones didn't support NCQ. Only the ADFD's and beyond.

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Originally Posted by Brahmzy

I notice you're running an old 8mb Raptor 36GBer. I'm pretty sure the older ones didn't support NCQ. Only the ADFD's and beyond.

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thats right, the old raptors doesnt have NCQ , mine hasnt too.


Can u make us clear, ''what u hotswap''? Which sata-slot are u using to hotswap?
The ones on the intel controller or Jmicron?

If u are using the extern sata slot (>>>> jmicron), then u have to set it to ahci ( or raid, some have trouble with ahci) in bios.

Not according to WD,

http://www.westerndigital.com/en/pro...40&language=en

Cuz I clearly remember seeing this feature checked on my previous rig when I opened device manager. Besides, the other drive thats 100% confirmed NCQ also isn't registering as NCQ and removal options are grayed out(they'r grayed out on all my drives for that matter). Normally the intel matrix storage manager should give you the option to disconnect drive I think, but when I rghtclick on a drive it says "NO ACTIONS AVAILABLE", thus implying other actions are available for other people. Maybe someone with a sata drive connected to the DATA connectors or any other SATA connector besides SATA1 can try and open that Intel Matrix Storage manager and see what happens when you rightclick on a disk in that tool.

Cheerz!!

And to answer you kaku,

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Originally Posted by Kakulukia

Can u make us clear, ''what u hotswap''? Which sata-slot are u using to hotswap? The ones on the intel controller or Jmicron?.

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Like I said, I am only using the SATA ports on the INTEL controller, my mobile rack is attached to slot 4, so thats what I use to hotswap, but slot 3 is also a black SATA port and no windows files are on this SATA drive so this should be hotswappable as well. Everything should be hotswappable on the Intel controller.

YOu re raptor does not have NCQ (read that site). You have the 8 mb version, the newer (16mb) has ncq.

- it says also ''no actions available'' when i click to a disk
- the red slots are meant for ''boot'' >> windows
- the black slots for data, hotswap i quess.

Have you tried the external sata ? First set to AHCI (or raid) in bios, i think u also have to install jmicron raid tool.

I'm just gonna reinstall my entire windows and this time I am gonna put a floppy drive in so I am absolutely sure the driver gets picked up. If it doesn't work tomorrow then the board is going RMA:(:(

BTW, I did that fix for that sound, I uninstalled that XP hotfix and then I installed the newest audio drivers from Asus and bam the crackling was back, what wasn't back however was my slow random access times. So this hotfix only screws up disk access times for me, but it sure as hell doesn't fix the sound, the harder you turn the volume the more crackling:(

hey i just got my board up and running(see sig) and the only problem that i have with it is i can't boot it with the 7900GT in the top 16x pci express slot:( any ideas?. also i get the double restart crap too:(. BTW i'm using the 0711 bios.

change your bios setting to "IDE" from "ACHI"...ACHI is really NCQ.

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Originally Posted by Cappie

I have some MAJOR HUMONGOUS issues with this board,

1) Booting is so slow it reminds me of the good old windows 98 days

2) Sata drives are not hotswappable, even after correct install of windows and AHCI drivers(iaahci.inf and iastor.inf)which were loaded during F6 part of setup.

3) Sound is crackling like hell, sometimes even woozes and soundchanges

4) Detection of AHCI drives happens slow as well, and results in a tick once its found, as if its just starting drive at the AHCI port 1 bla bla detection thingie(and no this is not the double boot issue cuz I don't have that anymore, also fixed the link width bug)

Here are screenshots of HDtach to proof I ain't lying,

Below picture is from my WD raptor 36Gb, its my bootdisk and connected to SATA1 running in AHCI mode(or thats what I think),

http://tinyurl.com/yxcbrt

Note that my random access was around 9ms on my previous board(dfi lanparty sli-d), my bursts were alot higher as well, and so were my reads.

This is my second harddisk and its connected as a data disk to SATA3,

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/7...xtormd6.th.jpg

Bios modes are set as follows, Jmicron = IDE, SATA = Enhanced/AHCI, only have one real IDE drive and thats my nec burner, its connected with normal IDE cable to the red connector located directly below the 24pin power connector.

Also have these two processes running all the time and I don't know whether or not they are necessary,

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/7...tmondh7.th.jpg

notice the files called IAAnotif and IAANTmon, if thats supposed to get me hotswappability it sure ain't working. Besides, I can't remember a single motherboard for my entire life that required weird processes to be running in order for an end users to have Sata hot swappability?

These are screens of my device manager, maybe someone can spot where the error lies,

http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/2415/1hc7.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/1...iverxs0.th.jpghttp://img344.imageshack.us/img344/6546/hdkg9.th.jpghttp://img344.imageshack.us/img344/1343/smbusvu9.th.jpghttp://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6...copypy1.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/4...copyyt3.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/8...copybw2.th.jpghttp://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3...copyoa0.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/5...copykk9.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/6...copysf4.th.jpg

If someone of you here has a mobile rack or whatever and use the HOT SWAP feature then plz drop in and see if you can help me out this is really driving me bonkers. I even called Asus germany this afternoon and I am from Belgium so it was long distance, waited half an hour with the same tune and still no response, then I realized, WTF am I doing calling these noobs who probably know nothing about all these problems let alone ways to fix them.

I don't care about the audio problem, if maybe a soundcard would fix that then I can live with that but the hotswap not being there and drives booting slower then snails is not something I can live with:mad: :mad: :slobber:

Question is, if I swap this board for a different P5B deluxe will I have these same issues again?? I am running on the settings from my sig, primestable, cpu runs extremely cool(below 50°C), what else can it be but motherboardcraphola bugs or bad drivers or maybe there's special ways to install things that Asus doesn't even know about cuz their manual is like a guiding light through a cloud of mist, problem is there's no lightbulb in their light so people are stuck finding their way out of the fog alone.

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i just sold my crappy mobo and i'm thinking about getting the amazing Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP.i just checked asus website and it seems my ram isn't listed as compartible,dunno if to sell that too.i'm gonna be keepinf the rest of my hardware. i dont know if any new boards are coming out soon or just go ahead and buy that board.any suggestions plz

ps:i'm going to be joining you guys here now ...gonna be family soon :)

WELCOME!:)

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Originally Posted by slykid

i just sold my crappy mobo and i'm thinking about getting the amazing Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP.i just checked asus website and it seems my ram isn't listed as compartible,dunno if to sell that too.i'm gonna be keepinf the rest of my hardware. i dont know if any new boards are coming out soon or just go ahead and buy that board.any suggestions plz

ps:i'm going to be joining you guys here now ...gonna be family soon :)

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Originally Posted by Cappie

BTW, I did that fix for that sound, I uninstalled that XP hotfix and then I installed the newest audio drivers from Asus and bam the crackling was back, what wasn't back however was my slow random access times. So this hotfix only screws up disk access times for me, but it sure as hell doesn't fix the sound, the harder you turn the volume the more crackling:(

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This is interesting. I am also having problems with the sound drivers in regards to HDD performance. I noticed that without soundmax installed, cruising around windows explorer 'through directories' was lightning fast with no pauses. After installing soundmax, I experience tiny 'pauses' while clicking through folders. This is probably due to the effect on my random access times.

I'm going to try messing with this hotfix to see if I can 'fix' my explorer pauses.

I need some help getting a higher OC on my P5b Deluxe wifi...

At 506 x 7 I am 9hrs+ Orthos Stable with 1.525v on the CPU.

At 507 x 7 I cannot pass 1 hour of Orthos at any Vcore...

I have the BIOS settings set to the settings in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=115217
I did not change PCIe Freq. and I upped ICH voltage to 1.25

If anyone has any ideas, please let me know... I'd really like to hit 515 x 7 stable.

Thanks!

Seufar

How is your cpu temp ?

Hi Guys,

I have been dealing with those issues for a while now, and share most of your frustration.
I have a few solutions and mainly clarification to add.

First AUDIO is screwed up bigly the result of it are as follows:
1. Crackling sound
2. Slow Winxp Boot time
3. Slow browsing through explorer folder (basically slow HDD performance)
4. No sound form 2 rear speakers
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regarding the Windows hot fix, if my memory serves me right it only brought more harm then good i advice NOT using it as it is causing some of the slow explorer browsing to be slow. (u can find that issue in other forums)

* ok here is the thing, its enough to DISABLE the HD AUDIO in BIOS to regain QUICK window BOOT time ! (to me it feels like a conflict issues and mainly PCI Latency issue) and to regain f Fast explorer browsing experience.
Basically looks like shared resources issue or misbehavior of Driver/ Pci latency issue on the part of the AUDIO drivers.


I'm on the latest 4570 Audio Drivers from Asus (I have to say i don there a crackling sound.

Regarding SLOW AHCI DETECTION
I had that too. there is a solution!
The solution lies in an updated INTEL RAID DRIVERS! Yes, I thought it was a BIOS issues and it isn't it's a drivers issue. I VERIFIED that for sure, looks like old drivers after reboot were writing something wrong to the drive that caused it to hang for about 5-8 seconds at post time.
here are the drivers for INTEL trust me u will be surprised but no more hangs on Rebooting(regardig detecting AHCI drives).
http://www.station-drivers.com/telec...0.2002-all.exe

* regarding the Rear speakers not working , just go into soundmax (lower left corner blue icon) and choose preferences' -> DTS connect TAB, and uncheck everything. this will bring you back your sound to rear speaker, it aint a solution completely cause u loose the 5.1 DTS

Basically Audio drivers seem to be at major fault here imo.

* And I think I'm booting Winxp after about 6 runs of the blue bar at the WINXP boot screen (when AUDIO is DISABLED in bios) its about 11-12 runs of the blue bar when Audio is enabled. (If u want to see how fast u can boot without audio, then just disable it in bios, boot, and run BOOTVIS optimization, then reboot and see how fast)

Let me know how u guys make any progress.

I'm very frustrated with the slow HDD performance and general reaction (especially while loading programs and browsing in Explorer)
We need a Major Audio Driver fix I think to have this board run smooth - most of the issues seems to come from the sound H/W / S/W.

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Originally Posted by serious1

hey i just got my board up and running(see sig) and the only problem that i have with it is i can't boot it with the 7900GT in the top 16x pci express slot:( any ideas?. also i get the double restart crap too:(. BTW i'm using the 0711 bios.

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hey guys is my problem a known issue?

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Originally Posted by -TR-ZİVRO-TR-

Seufar

How is your cpu temp ?

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Depending on my room temp, my cpu load temps are between 52-60*C using TAT.

No thoughts by anybody on this?

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Originally Posted by happyboy6

I was wondering if anyone could give me some ideas? (hope this is the right place to put this)
I have read all the posts, hints and tips.

I've got the p5b deluxe wifi, upgraded the bios to 711, with osz platinum rev2 2x1gb pc2-6400 sdram, and the E6300.
Everything booted up fine with the standards settings. I put on a new heat sink/fan on the E6300.
I am trying to overclock this setup. I can run the FSB up to around 430 and then no further. I don't seem to be limited on core clock, as I can lower the multiplier to 6x and still face the 430 FSB limit.
OSZ claims that this SDRAM should run up to 500mhz at 2.1v , so I suspect it isn't the problem.

I started with the setup guides on various sites.
I've played with the straps and they don't seem to have any effect.
I've twiddled the core voltage, NB,SB voltages and termination voltages, nothing has an effect. I've tried all the things i've read in the threads.

I do notice, as reported by others, that the NB gets real hot when I try to go past 430. I thought that the NB could be overclocked.

Is it possible that my board just won't run faster than this? When I look at the database, I see a lot of better results for the FSB. Obviously, with an E6300, I'm limited on the core clock to 7x.
thanks
Jonathan

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

change your bios setting to "IDE" from "ACHI"...ACHI is really NCQ.

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What do you mean man, just take IDE for my SATA drives, remember I tried that and I didn't have hotswap availability.

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Originally Posted by c_fun

Hi Guys,

I have been dealing with those issues for a while now, and share most of your frustration.
I have a few SNAP SNAP

I'm very frustrated with the slow HDD performance and general reaction (especially while loading programs and browsing in Explorer)
We need a Major Audio Driver fix I think to have this board run smooth - most of the issues seems to come from the sound H/W / S/W.

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Thnx man, you'r a legend, I will give all these a try, I finally installed my windows now in full AHCI and did it with driver disk, my bootup with HD audio enabled in bios and the drivers for them still left uninistalled my windows blue bars now go 5,5 times across before it boots into windows. I haven't run bootvis yet and your other suggestions but if you say that there will be an improvement then I will be looking at 3x across maximum afterwards.

Will report back,

Cappie

PS : yes frustrated is the correct word, drivers that give people so much pain should not have been shipped, its clear that these are no mere minor issues but major pain in the arse issues:)


UPDATE:

The file from c_fun(intel msm 6.2.0.2002-all.exe)is confirmed working here, now AHCI ports are detected instantaneously at boot, with a good defragtool called perfectdisk 7 I first defragged the drive(smartplacement), then I ran bootvis and now I can get into windows in under 5 bars across, 4,5 to be exact. When you run bootvis its very clear that this number 4,5 can be even reduced further cuz after the 3rd bootvis trace, right after you do "OPTIMIZE SYSTEM" windows will boot into desktop in 0,5 bars across. Yep you read that correctly, the bar will only go halfway across and boot into windows. The problem is, this 0,5 bars across only happens once, and its after you click "OPTIMIZE SYSTEM", windows will then reboot and its here that windows gets loaded SUPERSUPERFAST, if it then finishes the optimization it gets reset to 4,5 bars across. I tested this twice and it was same exact routine the second time, I even tested a third time and I didn't let the optimization finish after getting into windows for that last step and just cancelled the bootvis_sleep process, then I checked to see if the 0,5 bar would stick but helas, it was gone egain, windows booted even slower now, 7 bars across. So I let optimization finish on the next runonceex instance and now the bars were 4,5 again. Pretty good but still not opteron good(cuz there I had 2,5x across).

I haven't disabled HD audio in bios yet cuz I was still too busy with my reinstall. What else, aaaah yes, first of all my congratulations are in order, c_fun if I was head of Asus then I would immediately give you a position as manager of customer support, you solved a big issue here for lots of folks. I have no idea why Asus isn't bringing out that driver, but I guess its cuz it ain't WHQL certified yet, where did you get it from???

One thing thats still bugging me though is this SATA hotswap, I still can't safely disconnect my SATA mobile racks, I can see a green arrow pop up yes, but only when I plug in USB devices, so I know the green arrow exists but just not for my SATA disks. Once I disconnect my USB drive that green arrow dissapears, on my DFI lanparty SLI-d that green arrow just stayed there all the time cuz I was running same setup of disks back then.

So on to fixing these next problems, audio crackling and Hot Swap and I am one happy man, already pretty glad there's progress.

Cheerz all who helped so far(kaku, brahm, ...)

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Originally Posted by Psyire

This is interesting. I am also having problems with the sound drivers in regards to HDD performance. I noticed that without soundmax installed, cruising around windows explorer 'through directories' was lightning fast with no pauses. After installing soundmax, I experience tiny 'pauses' while clicking through folders. This is probably due to the effect on my random access times.

I'm going to try messing with this hotfix to see if I can 'fix' my explorer pauses.

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i wonder if bios problem with drivers, i disabled hdaudio and added x-plosion sound card and other weird things happened, but all told things are running well, i heard ahci does not perform well period but no data to back that claim,

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Originally Posted by Cappie

What do you mean man, just take IDE for my SATA drives, remember I tried that and I didn't have hotswap availability.



Thnx man, you'r a legend, I will give all these a try, I finally installed my windows now in full AHCI and did it with driver disk, my bootup with HD audio enabled in bios and the drivers for them still left uninistalled my windows blue bars now go 5,5 times across before it boots into windows. I haven't run bootvis yet and your other suggestions but if you say that there will be an improvement then I will be looking at 3x across maximum afterwards.

Will report back,

Cappie


PS : yes frustrated is the correct word, drivers that give people so much pain should not have been shipped, its clear that these are no mere minor issues but major pain in the arse issues:)


UPDATE:

The file from c_fun(intel msm 6.2.0.2002-all.exe)is confirmed working here, now AHCI ports are detected instantaneously at boot, with a good defragtool called perfectdisk 7 I first defragged the drive(smartplacement), then I ran bootvis and now I can get into windows in under 5 bars across, 4,5 to be exact. When you run bootvis its very clear that this number 4,5 can be even reduced further cuz after the 3rd bootvis trace, right after you do "OPTIMIZE SYSTEM" windows will boot into desktop in 0,5 bars across. Yep you read that correctly, the bar will only go halfway across and boot into windows. The problem is, this 0,5 bars across only happens once, and its after you click "OPTIMIZE SYSTEM", windows will then reboot and its here that windows gets loaded SUPERSUPERFAST, if it then finishes the optimization it gets reset to 4,5 bars across. I tested this twice and it was same exact routine the second time, I even tested a third time and I didn't let the optimization finish after getting into windows for that last step and just cancelled the bootvis_sleep process, then I checked to see if the 0,5 bar would stick but helas, it was gone egain, windows booted even slower now, 7 bars across. So I let optimization finish on the next runonceex instance and now the bars were 4,5 again. Pretty good but still not opteron good(cuz there I had 2,5x across).

I haven't disabled HD audio in bios yet cuz I was still too busy with my reinstall. What else, aaaah yes, first of all my congratulations are in order, c_fun if I was head of Asus then I would immediately give you a position as manager of customer support, you solved a big issue here for lots of folks. I have no idea why Asus isn't bringing out that driver, but I guess its cuz it ain't WHQL certified yet, where did you get it from???

One thing thats still bugging me though is this SATA hotswap, I still can't safely disconnect my SATA mobile racks, I can see a green arrow pop up yes, but only when I plug in USB devices, so I know the green arrow exists but just not for my SATA disks. Once I disconnect my USB drive that green arrow dissapears, on my DFI lanparty SLI-d that green arrow just stayed there all the time cuz I was running same setup of disks back then.

So on to fixing these next problems, audio crackling and Hot Swap and I am one happy man, already pretty glad there's progress.

Cheerz all who helped so far(kaku, brahm, ...)

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" check your manual, maybe only e-sata hot swappable, i do not think any of the six connectors for the sb are hotswappable "

windows xp home sp2

how can i get 4gb's of ram showing more than 2.43gb's in windows..........

i've tried /3gb /pae/memset=3000 switches, mem remap enabled gets me 4096 in bios and 2gb's in windows, disable mem remap 2496 in bios and 2.43 in windows,

any ideas?

desperate in toronto or was that seattle or was ...............................

Guys I am having a problem. Check sig for rig.

I set 400 fsb and when it boots up it automatically sets the multipler to 6 and the fsb to 321. Check screenshot. I have voltages set to automatic so that is why the voltage seems so high but no matter what I do I can't get the multiplier to stay at 8 even if i force these settings in the bios it still boots up to this. Any ideas? Please help. How the heck are you guys OCing this board? This is the most recent bios as well.

It seems to be adjusting my multiplier while im in windows. Im watchign in cpuz and it fluctuates from 6 to 8...

ACtually its even worse than I thought. even at stock settings it seems to be setting my e6400 to a 6 x multiplier. Check out the screenshot. What the hell. In the bios I have the multipler unlock function set to disabled so it shoudlb e using the default of 8 but its not. Its even undervolting my cpu...

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Originally Posted by dab420

install win xp 64, or vista.

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What does that have to do with anything?

@HeadShotWI : Do you have the Intel Speedstep function enable in bios?Do you have saving energy profile set to Laptop in Windows Control Panel?Try turning them off.

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Originally Posted by HeadShotWI

What does that have to do with anything?

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easy tiger, it was in response to another post, in another thread. My post got moved when the thread was merged and it shuffled the order a bit. :stick:


swiftex: winxp sp2 does not support 4GB of ram. You might have more luck with a 64 bit OS like the ones mentioned above..