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09-05-2007, 03:33 PM
John600rr

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrs250

A lot of people on boards seem to swap out boards like they were changing socks. I have a question.. When I get my board stable...I have tons of settings, program installs (maybe 15 must have programs for me)..bookmarks (I know these are easy to save) etc. Does everyone do a fresh OS install...What is your method for swapping out a board... Does anyone do a swap with the old install intact...i.e. a Windows Repair install. I would be fascinated because many times for me it is not the cost but the headache of losing a night's sleep having to rebuild the new board to the way I used to have it and the way I liked it.

You can sometimes get away with a repair install when changing mobos. Depends on chipset usually, but it's kinda a crap shoot. I always format and reinstall.

I look at it two ways:

1. Your changing motherboard every 6 months or more: Just do a format and reinstall since you could probably use on anyway.

2. Your changing your motherboard less than every 6 months: You've got the cash to setup a second low cost system and set it up the way you want and then set up your extreme rig and change mobos like mad.
09-05-2007, 03:56 PM
purecain

can reach 450 with later revision boards from G0AAY onwards ...... definatly swapping them out... then wait for the x38. i thought about just giving my m8 my board and using his money to get an ip35 but i'm not sure.... any thoughts...?????
09-06-2007, 08:44 AM
w2richwood

since this board will use the new 45mn chips lets see how well they work on this board may work better then b3 and go.s work on the board
09-07-2007, 06:37 PM
kensweep

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrs250

A lot of people on boards seem to swap out boards like they were changing socks. I have a question.. When I get my board stable...I have tons of settings, program installs (maybe 15 must have programs for me)..bookmarks (I know these are easy to save) etc. Does everyone do a fresh OS install...What is your method for swapping out a board... Does anyone do a swap with the old install intact...i.e. a Windows Repair install. I would be fascinated because many times for me it is not the cost but the headache of losing a night's sleep having to rebuild the new board to the way I used to have it and the way I liked it.

Mate you raise a very important issue. When one considers the time it takes to configure and install everything, you'd be nuts to want to waste that time again, it can be literally days over time.

Well I have good news for you. Without wanting to sound like a viagra salesman (though PM if you want that - joke) there's a 100% reliable solution.

Acronis True Image with Universal Restore.

As long as you have made a backup using TI of your preferred setup - and if you haven't, you should have on day one anyway - ATI w UR *ALWAYS* lets you restore your Windows image to any PC hardware. Saves taking a chance. Saves reinstalling the 97-odd security updates released since XP SP2 if you use XP's Repair function. Costs money of course.

UR uses Windows' generic drivers to allow you to boot. Then soon as you install the chipset drivers everything's hunky dorey. In my case it takes 10 mins.

With respect to the person who replied to you first, because I appreciate we all use PCs differently, you'd be mad to want to reinstall all your :banana::banana::banana::banana: again. It can take an age. There's no need if you have a clean reliable backup.

Peace.

Now someone help me with my PCI issue please!
09-07-2007, 10:13 PM
mlbspike

Acronis

A nice option ... only downside being the price. $100 isn't outrageous ... I may spring for it, if I wind up doing this more than twice a year, but for now I'll stick with ghost 2003 ... yes, I have to do a repair install ... but I've got decent broadband ... the Windows updates didn't take an excessive amount of time ... Moved a work machine from an old intel MB, with a 3.8 processor, to a P5K deluxe, with a Q6600, with little trouble. More interesting test comes next ... moving from P5WDH (motherboard Silicon Image raid0) to P5K deluxe, raid0. hmmm.
And why not install from scratch ... dozens of programs, with associated keys, serial numbers, and/or passwords ... in my case at least ... a nightmare.
09-09-2007, 04:28 AM
BulldogPO

Just flashed in bios 2302 and everything woks just as fine it did with bios 2004.
09-09-2007, 05:21 AM
nrs250

Quote:

Originally Posted by kensweep

Mate you raise a very important issue. When one considers the time it takes to configure and install everything, you'd be nuts to want to waste that time again, it can be literally days over time.

Well I have good news for you. Without wanting to sound like a viagra salesman (though PM if you want that - joke) there's a 100% reliable solution.

Acronis True Image with Universal Restore.

As long as you have made a backup using TI of your preferred setup - and if you haven't, you should have on day one anyway - ATI w UR *ALWAYS* lets you restore your Windows image to any PC hardware. Saves taking a chance. Saves reinstalling the 97-odd security updates released since XP SP2 if you use XP's Repair function. Costs money of course.

UR uses Windows' generic drivers to allow you to boot. Then soon as you install the chipset drivers everything's hunky dorey. In my case it takes 10 mins.

With respect to the person who replied to you first, because I appreciate we all use PCs differently, you'd be mad to want to reinstall all your :banana::banana::banana::banana: again. It can take an age. There's no need if you have a clean reliable backup.

Peace.

Now someone help me with my PCI issue please!

Are you using Acronis True Image 10 ? I have that one.
09-09-2007, 06:15 AM
WeldZilla

Hey ken just go back to the device manager hi-lite the device and delete it right there in the dvice manager second icon from the right. then reboot. See if windows detects new hardware and go from there. if it doesn't then don't worry about it. Core temp is a good way to keep an accurate track of your cpu temps. Don't make this harder than it is, you needn't try to add your temp sensors. If you are on air and want better cooling stuff more air to it then you ever dreamed it needed.
I just updated my bios from 2004 to 2206. It works perfectly without any glitches that I can find. guys I recommend that you go to the Asus site down load the bios you want to your system use win-rar or what have you to get to the file then put it in a folder or on your desktop then open the Asus updater and update from the file do not update throught the net. Heavy traffic at the site or even your local provider can make it take too long to get the package. So have it on your system ready and update from File. As for what speed to install it, well I did my install of the bios yesterday while running at my daily clock of 3825mhz. Install it where ever you are stable. On reboot of course that is all gone but you have to go det up your bios again anyway.

Well it is now Sunday afternoon and after playing now for many hours with this new bios (2206) I decided it is much weaker than (2004). 2206 won't let you OC as far as 2004 but, I am planning on getting a 6600GO here soon so I need a newer bios. I went ahead and loaded 2301 and it feels much stronger right out the gate. I am going to spend some time with it and see how it feels. I believe 22xx bios' are going to be remembered as weak. I am running the 2301 at my daily clock of 425 and have been for a couple hours. I have benched and rendered some video at the same time and so far so good.
While I was messing with this new bios today I set a new personal high on 3D03. It's all good.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lla/better.jpg
Then when I finished that new high. I set another new personal high
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lla/05done.jpg
09-10-2007, 01:59 AM
p5wdh

anyone have a higher cpu frequency for core2duo e6750 (2.66 default)? if higher than 3.6, what is your manual settings for vdimm, vcore,mcg,ich,etc? thanks in advance
09-10-2007, 05:19 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeldZilla

after playing now for many hours with this new bios (2206) I decided it is much weaker than (2004). 2206 won't let you OC as far as 2004 but, I am planning on getting a 6600GO here soon so I need a newer bios.

You didn't try my 2004 G0/45nm Edition bios?
09-10-2007, 05:26 AM
BulldogPO

Quote:

Originally Posted by p5wdh

anyone have a higher cpu frequency for core2duo e6750 (2.66 default)? if higher than 3.6, what is your manual settings for vdimm, vcore,mcg,ich,etc? thanks in advance

Try 2302.
09-10-2007, 06:20 AM
MarcusTaz

2301, there is no 2302, correct me if I am wrong...
09-10-2007, 11:36 AM
kensweep

Thank you very much WeldZilla for your suggestion. Sadly it comes back from the dead on reboot/scanning for hardware changes, like some kind of annoying zombie. Maybe there's some way to find out what Windows is reading from the device, because Windows has no idea what it is; it asks me!, if I go to the next step of installing drivers.

Hey nrs250, I use TI 9.1 Workstation with UR, I don't think TI Home 10 offers UR. I used the v10 demo, it's got even more features, some useful.
09-10-2007, 03:04 PM
WeldZilla

Hey ken you know when the new bios is loaded and checked and it is time to reboot. Are you going in and telling your bios what your configuration is?

Example: As soon as I reboot the very first thing I have to do is on the main page of the bios is scroll down to IDE Configuration. hit enter and then arrow tab it to Raid and again hit "Enter" so the bios will see my RaidO array and then my OS. I am curious to know after your bios install what you are doing so everything you need to have recognized, is.

So are you leaving something on that does not exist? Is there something plugged that you have not accounted for?

You know lawry I did not not even try it. Hey don't take it hard. I may end up back there. I got to tell you though that this is one decent bios so far as far as my E6600 is concerned.

WZ
09-11-2007, 01:37 AM
happ

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

You didn't try my 2004 G0/45nm Edition bios?

I tried your bios. But I noticed something strange under Vista Ultimate x64. My machine was prime95 stable but not "x264 stable". It means it could run prime95 test for 10 hours, but not x264 video encoding for 15 minutes. Besides this encoding was to slow for 4 cores processor, almost the same speed as my old E6600. Furthermore, Everest CPU tests results were to low, on C2 Duo level, too. During the tests CPU usage was 100% only for two cores. For other two where only around 50%.

I have dual boot machine and all above I noticed under Vista Ultimate 64. Under Windows XP Pro SP2 x32 video encoding and Everest CPU test was normal for Quad core processor. I flash bios to 2301 and now x264 video encoding speed and Everest CPU tests results under x64 Vista are on the XP 32 level. Although I can't oc my quad any better than with your bios, now is at least "x264" stable and use all four cores for encoding and Everest benching.

It seems Asus made new bios for GO stepping processors with a reason.
09-11-2007, 05:19 AM
mikepaul

Quote:

Originally Posted by happ

My machine was prime95 stable but not "x264 stable". It means it could run prime95 test for 10 hours, but not x264 video encoding for 15 minutes.

This comes up for other reasons.

My defective power supply limits me to 30% OC now (never updated my sig) because at full OC it will pass Orthos tests galore but die doing video conversion. A working 450W power supply providing maybe 200W tops shouldn't cause random system crashes.

I'm giving up waiting for Amazon to 'find' the PSU I ordered. It appears they mis-priced the item then decided to delay until I cancel rather than just cancel the order themselves. The extra $50 I'll have to pay above what they SAID they'd charge will have to come from future anywhere-but-Amazon orders...
09-11-2007, 08:19 AM
gwolfman

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger_h99.nor

http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

Finally on the '45nm-list'. Good news.

Bios 0203 must be a typo??

You're right, looks like they updated it.

Digital Home Series
P5W DH Deluxe - Intel 975X/ICH7R - 1333 - BIOS 2302 and later
09-11-2007, 08:20 AM
gwolfman

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrs250

Here is the link for the radiator:
http://www.dangerden.com/store/home.php?cat=84

Here is a link for a guide on modding (all credit to this guy who did it first):

http:/http://forums.legitreviews.com...4364f4b1834fbf

He used the Black Ice Extreme and felt it was too big. I agree and took his advice and went with the Black Ice Pro from DangerDen. The Extreme is very think and placing it back in the case, while doable, is very tough.

You will need the blue poly-elbows he describes and a dremel to mod the fan housing. Kathi at Danger Den is very helpful and will send you the right stuff if you ask.

Sweet, I'll look into it, thanks!
09-11-2007, 09:05 AM
miochza

Those who were looking around for the 2302 BIOS BulldogPO was talking about, and will support 45 nm:

2302 Beta BIOS
09-11-2007, 05:31 PM
Mixman

I have a P5W DH and a OCZ520ADJ SLI.

I just put my old system into a new case. It did work for 6 mos together. Now in order to get it started I have to flick th power switch on the psu. It then comes on. Once on, it will stay on and work fine, but a few minutes after shutdown and I cannot power the system on without using the PSU power switch and then it comes on automatically and boots up. The green light on the motherboard does stay on. I checked all of the connections for a short and cannot find one.

Is my motherboard bad ?
09-11-2007, 08:18 PM
gwolfman

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vdroop issue?

(First off, disregard the CPU is too hot! error)

I'm testing a QX6700 in my motherboard 333FSB x 10 multiplier and had to up the voltage in the BIOS to 4.325V but runs @ ~4.16V. When I ran OOCT with the voltage set lower, it would error out right about when the vCore seemed to drop to 1.35. Does the following image illustrate what is known as vdroop?
Attachment 64251

What does the following picture represent with the 12v going up and down like that?
Attachment 64252
09-11-2007, 11:40 PM
~aoe~

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixman

I have a P5W DH and a OCZ520ADJ SLI.

I just put my old system into a new case. It did work for 6 mos together. Now in order to get it started I have to flick th power switch on the psu. It then comes on. Once on, it will stay on and work fine, but a few minutes after shutdown and I cannot power the system on without using the PSU power switch and then it comes on automatically and boots up. The green light on the motherboard does stay on. I checked all of the connections for a short and cannot find one.

Is my motherboard bad ?

I recently had a strange problem with another motherboard. Whilst not the same problem, it was sort of similar.

After changing the CPU and chipset heatsinks on my 2nd system (Opteron 170 on A8N32-SLi), I tried to increase my OC by upping the voltages. I wasn't able to get the system stable, so dropped back to the previous OC. However, after these changes, the PC was unable to fully switch off. Windows would fully close down, but the fans would just keep spinning until I switched off the PSU. The same problem occurred when trying to Restart (would hang in BIOS with all fans spinning).

After trying to increase the OC again, I had a boot failure that reset the BIOS to defaults. After this, the problem disappeared. Even after reapplying the OC settings in BIOS, the problem was gone.

Long story, but I think it was something in BIOS that was causing this problem, and by resetting to defaults, it seems to have fixed it. May be worth trying.
09-12-2007, 01:52 AM
BulldogPO

Seems like this 2302 beta is best bios so far, at least for me.
I can now drive my Q6600@3.2GHz with 1.375Vcore, and with old bios (2004) it required 1.475V to be 100% stable.
09-12-2007, 03:19 AM
Nitrium

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixman

I have a P5W DH and a OCZ520ADJ SLI.

I just put my old system into a new case. It did work for 6 mos together. Now in order to get it started I have to flick th power switch on the psu. It then comes on. Once on, it will stay on and work fine, but a few minutes after shutdown and I cannot power the system on without using the PSU power switch and then it comes on automatically and boots up. The green light on the motherboard does stay on. I checked all of the connections for a short and cannot find one.

Is my motherboard bad ?

I've started to have the same problem two weeks ago, but it doesn't happens always. I'm starting to think that the motherboard is faulty. I've already checked all connections too and didn't find any problem. :(
09-12-2007, 07:06 AM
Mixman

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~aoe~

I recently had a strange problem with another motherboard. Whilst not the same problem, it was sort of similar.

After changing the CPU and chipset heatsinks on my 2nd system (Opteron 170 on A8N32-SLi), I tried to increase my OC by upping the voltages. I wasn't able to get the system stable, so dropped back to the previous OC. However, after these changes, the PC was unable to fully switch off. Windows would fully close down, but the fans would just keep spinning until I switched off the PSU. The same problem occurred when trying to Restart (would hang in BIOS with all fans spinning).

After trying to increase the OC again, I had a boot failure that reset the BIOS to defaults. After this, the problem disappeared. Even after reapplying the OC settings in BIOS, the problem was gone.

Long story, but I think it was something in BIOS that was causing this problem, and by resetting to defaults, it seems to have fixed it. May be worth trying.

Tried a total cmos reset and am using default settings. The system still will not start up without me "jumpstarting" the psu. I bumped into another P5W DH owner who is having similar problems. Hmmm.....

At first I was leaning at a psu solution, but once I get the system jumpstarted, it works fine. I can even overclock by a good amount. I think if the psu was faulty, I would be able to do that. I am just dreading spending the money to get another board right now.
09-12-2007, 08:43 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by BulldogPO

Seems like this 2302 beta is best bios so far, at least for me.
I can now drive my Q6600@3.2GHz with 1.375Vcore, and with old bios (2004) it required 1.475V to be 100% stable.

I can't see how that is true really. This usually appears to be the case when people do brief testing but once they have fully used the bios and stress tested there's little if any improvement at all. Certainly not a delta of 0.1v..
09-12-2007, 10:03 AM
w2richwood

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixman

Tried a total cmos reset and am using default settings. The system still will not start up without me "jumpstarting" the psu. I bumped into another P5W DH owner who is having similar problems. Hmmm.....

At first I was leaning at a psu solution, but once I get the system jumpstarted, it works fine. I can even overclock by a good amount. I think if the psu was faulty, I would be able to do that. I am just dreading spending the money to get another board right now.

try unhooking any usb device and in bios under power power off after power off to off hope this helps
Rich
09-12-2007, 11:54 AM
5OH

I updated to the 2302 BIOS but for some reason the C1 is set to AUTO and I can't disable. Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
09-12-2007, 12:24 PM
Mixman

If I have to replace this board, I am wondering should I get another P5W DH or just get a cheap P35 board. This is for my wifes system.
09-12-2007, 01:13 PM
w2richwood

i dont think its the board eather bios setting or usb device like the dh remote i could be wrong but i dont think so
Rich
09-12-2007, 01:34 PM
~aoe~

I see that some people are experiencing reduced OCs with quad core and 4GB memory installed. I was curious to know if this problem was only experienced by those with all 4 memory slots filled (4 x 1GB) or whether it also affects 2 x 2GB configurations.

I have just ordered my Q6600 G0 together with the new x38 from Gigabyte (supposedly available in UK on 14th September - Friday - maybe...) and was wondering whether to get some additional memory and try Vista :confused:

Apologies if this question is not directly related to the P5W DH.

BTW not giving up on this board yet - still very happy with the performance with my current E6600, and will keep it running also :)
09-12-2007, 01:49 PM
Mixman

Quote:

Originally Posted by w2richwood

i dont think its the board eather bios setting or usb device like the dh remote i could be wrong but i dont think so
Rich

Yeah I thought about the DH Remote too, that's why I took it out of the usb, and removed the program, just in case.
09-12-2007, 03:04 PM
GLENBOY

been running beta 2302 bios all night on my early revision p5w board , and it seems very stable as good as 2004 and 2103 so far and hasn't had the annoying pci modem/audio controller found new hardware bug and the vcore resetting to auto bug that the 2200s bioses had not yet anyway .thumbs up from me for the 2302 bios

scratch the above its acting the same as the 2200 bioses = vcore resets to default and found pci modem /audio controller i wonder if its only specific to the early revision boards 2004 and 2103 work flawlessly but the 2200 bioses and this one all have the same quirks but when running its ok but on some reboots the vcore resets to auto or if you go in bios goes on auto WEIRD
09-12-2007, 04:34 PM
WeldZilla

Hey 50H I loaeded the 2302 just to check this for you and when I went into the bios to have a look it was disabled. Not sure why yours won't disable.
I then went back to the 2301 bios as I am not finished with it yet.
Why are you so wound up about being able to disable the C1 setting in the cpu config page of the bios. As far as stability or speed goes it changes nothing.
The only thing it does is make Core temp and cpuz read your correct multiplier. right now with C1 enabled core temp and cpuz think I am using the 6x multi instead of the 9x.
As soon as you put any load on they will read right.
As I said as far as actual performance goes its the same.
You sure should be able to disable it tho'

WZ
09-12-2007, 08:17 PM
BulldogPO

BTW, my board is version 1.04G
09-12-2007, 09:04 PM
gwolfman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwolfman

(First off, disregard the CPU is too hot! error)

I'm testing a QX6700 in my motherboard 333FSB x 10 multiplier and had to up the voltage in the BIOS to 4.325V but runs @ ~4.16V. When I ran OOCT with the voltage set lower, it would error out right about when the vCore seemed to drop to 1.35. Does the following image illustrate what is known as vdroop?
Attachment 64251

What does the following picture represent with the 12v going up and down like that?
Attachment 64252

Looks like I got passed up. Anyone?
09-13-2007, 07:49 AM
WeldZilla

As far as the 12 volt rail is concerned it is only a 5/100ths of a volt variance.
It never falls below 12 so don't read anything into it that is not there cuz there is nothing there that is wrong. As a matter of fact that is excellent. There is that what you were fishing for? a rave about your 12V rail.
Just what are your core temps. If they are fine turn up the volts.
My 6600 has been running at 1.65 for a year now. Sometimes a little less sometimes more. I have good cooling though. Your v-droop is about normal also. Don't get too caught up in all the precise measuring crap and turn up the volts using your core temps as your tattletale when to stop. Put more fans on the memory and NB and stuff more air in there if necessary.
People's fear of voltage just cracks me up.

WZ
09-13-2007, 10:54 AM
mikepaul

What's the latest opinion here on the Antec Neo HE550 power supply on a P5W DH?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth.../atx-psu7.html says it's great if you get the A4 revision, but I still see bad things said recently about it without notes about the version number.

It'd be $55 after rebate if I order from NewEgg today or tomorrow, but I'd like some other input before I jump on it.

Since they don't like the Zalman I have on order from Amazon, I think I'll cancel that even if I don't get this one cheap...
09-13-2007, 06:45 PM
WeldZilla

Close call

Well after running with the 2301 and 2302 bios' for a few days I decided that I really don't like either!! I believe the 2301 is just a bit stronger. So I put afudos 2.11 on a floppy and my favorite 2004bios on and rebooted just like clock work everything went smooth as silk. Uh hey I'm WeldZilla everything always goes that way for me!! At the prompt I typed in
afudos/iP5WDH.rom and hit enter and it was off to the bios races 10%,17%,28%, 39%, 48%, 59%, 67% and then the floppy stopped it wait awhile and then came the post.... FAILED!! options- abort,retry, fall on your sword!!
So this is when you need to stay cool. I went to one of my other systems
downloaded afudos and snagged an older bios 1901 put it all on a fresh new floppy and returned to my machine. I pulled the bad floppy and put in the fresh one. Got the prompt and started again. This time the floppy was a good one and I flashed back to 1901. When I got my system back up I used Asus update and loaded up the 2004 bios from a file on my system. I went back through the bios setting up my system and i am happy to report that I am running at 425 fsb @ 3825 with a whole lot more authority tha either the 2301 or the 2302 could provide my system with. Lawry I will try yours soon.
Why did this work out in the end so well? Hey I am WeldZilla and that's the way it is!!:yepp:

WZ
09-13-2007, 09:50 PM
gwolfman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WeldZilla

...As a matter of fact that is excellent. There is that what you were fishing for?
...
Just what are your core temps?

I wasn't looking for a "rave" about my voltages, I was just curious as to if it were bad enough where I should try the vdroop mod. Thanks for the reply though. :)

Here's my temps at idle:
Attachment 64333

And here at load with OCCT:
Attachment 64334

And temps 1 minute after finishing 99.5% load:
Attachment 64335

What do you think of my core temps?
-GWolfman
09-14-2007, 02:19 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepaul

What's the latest opinion here on the Antec Neo HE550 power supply on a P5W DH?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth.../atx-psu7.html says it's great if you get the A4 revision, but I still see bad things said recently about it without notes about the version number.

It'd be $55 after rebate if I order from NewEgg today or tomorrow, but I'd like some other input before I jump on it.

Since they don't like the Zalman I have on order from Amazon, I think I'll cancel that even if I don't get this one cheap...

Hi, it is a very good PSU, I've been running one now for a couple of years with different motherboards and my XT1900XT-X. Firstly a A8R32-MVP, then a P5W DH and now my P5B Premium Vista Edition, and had no issues whatsoever. I will admit there might have been build issues with some early versions however people who criticise it haven't a clue what they are talking about because it actually is a Antec badged Seasonic, see here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 for proof....
ChrisC
09-14-2007, 05:07 AM
Ragdd

I had a Antec True Power 380 watt and Antec Neopower 480 watt in the past.

My hardware vendor wasn't keen on Antec psu's because they have a lot of RMA's on those psu's.

They advised me Fortron psu's and I bought a Fortron Epsilon 800 watt.
Also installed several Fortron Epsilon's in computerss of friends (Epsilon 600, 700 & 800 watt). And some Fortron Blue Storm 500 watt in other people's computers.

I must say that those Fotron psu are running more stable, cooler and more quieter dan those Antec psu's.

Only Fortron for me. :clap:
09-14-2007, 05:30 AM
WeldZilla

Well ok you weren't looking for a rave. You still got one. Looking at those temps well the 69 69 64 64 I would ay your right at the upper end of your possible OC as you want to stay out of the 70's. How about a nice clear pic of your case from the left side then another of the left side with the cover off.
Maybe we can get you more cooling with little work or money involved and maybe not. You might just be as far as your type of cooling will go.
So post up the pics and let's have a look. Oh by the way that is a nice 12V. rail on your psu.

Hey would you put Core Temp on your machine and see what it says your temps are?
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

WZ
09-14-2007, 05:50 AM
mikepaul

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, it is a very good PSU, I've been running one now for a couple of years with different motherboards and my XT1900XT-X. Firstly a A8R32-MVP, then a P5W DH and now my P5B Premium Vista Edition, and had no issues whatsoever. I will admit there might have been build issues with some early versions however people who criticise it haven't a clue what they are talking about because it actually is a Antec badged Seasonic, see here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 for proof....
ChrisC

Good. I asked Antec Support and they said if I got an old A3.1 it'd have to be broken before they'd replace it, but I'll take my chances.

Thanks...
09-14-2007, 06:19 AM
5OH

I updated to the 2302 BIOS but for some reason the C1 is set to AUTO and I can't disable. Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
09-14-2007, 09:25 AM
gwolfman

1 Attachment(s)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeldZilla

Well ok you weren't looking for a rave. You still got one. Looking at those temps well the 69 69 64 64 I would ay your right at the upper end of your possible OC as you want to stay out of the 70's. How about a nice clear pic of your case from the left side then another of the left side with the cover off.
Maybe we can get you more cooling with little work or money involved and maybe not. You might just be as far as your type of cooling will go.
So post up the pics and let's have a look. Oh by the way that is a nice 12V. rail on your psu.

Hey would you put Core Temp on your machine and see what it says your temps are?
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

WZ

Here you go:
Attachment 64351

Never used this app before (thought I've read some about it). Why are the temps different than speedfan and/or how does this work?
09-14-2007, 10:28 AM
astaris

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwolfman

Here you go:
Attachment 64351

Never used this app before (thought I've read some about it). Why are the temps different than speedfan and/or how does this work?

Because Speedfan assumes a Tj_max of 85 C, 15 degrees less than coretemp. Both programs read the relative temp from the DTS.
09-14-2007, 02:04 PM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeldZilla

Well after running with the 2301 and 2302 bios' for a few days I decided that I really don't like either!! I believe the 2301 is just a bit stronger. So I put afudos 2.11 on a floppy and my favorite 2004bios on and rebooted just like clock work everything went smooth as silk. Uh hey I'm WeldZilla everything always goes that way for me!! At the prompt I typed in
afudos/iP5WDH.rom and hit enter and it was off to the bios races 10%,17%,28%, 39%, 48%, 59%, 67% and then the floppy stopped it wait awhile and then came the post.... FAILED!! options- abort,retry, fall on your sword!!
So this is when you need to stay cool. I went to one of my other systems
downloaded afudos and snagged an older bios 1901 put it all on a fresh new floppy and returned to my machine. I pulled the bad floppy and put in the fresh one. Got the prompt and started again. This time the floppy was a good one and I flashed back to 1901. When I got my system back up I used Asus update and loaded up the 2004 bios from a file on my system. I went back through the bios setting up my system and i am happy to report that I am running at 425 fsb @ 3825 with a whole lot more authority tha either the 2301 or the 2302 could provide my system with. Lawry I will try yours soon.
Why did this work out in the end so well? Hey I am WeldZilla and that's the way it is!!:yepp:

WZ

Way to go - I do so enjoy coming back and reading the posts on this thread since I upgraded to the P5K Premium. The MB may be better than the P5W but the threads aren't half as much fun!

On another note for all you Vista X64 users you may find this utility useful to aid in quick configuring - http://www.tweakvista.com/tweakvistautility/
09-14-2007, 03:09 PM
Kynoo

Hi, im french so sorry for my english

I have an P5W Dh Deluxe with a bios id 2004.

A fresh install of Vista 64 Ultimate box version.

And 4Gb ( 4x1Gb) of G-Skill 5400U.

I installed the OS with just 2Gb, install ok.
After finish it and put drivers, i try to put all my ram...

With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

I tested with e "no error" mode, and windows hang load and reboot at crcdisk file.

I tried the Kb indicate in this forum without issue..

I tested some bios rules without issue too.

I verify all update from Microsoft... no issue.

I look on Asustek forum, no issue too.

So ... what we can do ?

My hardware :

E6600
4Gb of G-Skill 5400U ( 4x1Go )
P5W Dh Deluxe with 2301 Bios ( memory remap on )
Crossfire of two X1950Pro512
Sound card X-Fi Fatal1ty
4DD Sata

Any help or solutions ? :)
09-14-2007, 03:45 PM
mikepaul

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynoo

With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

Did it work with 3GB no matter which 3 sticks you had in?

Keep swapping them around until you've booted at 2GB using each combination of sticks once. That'd be 6 combinations, I think: 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 3-4...
09-15-2007, 12:24 AM
Kynoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepaul

Did it work with 3GB no matter which 3 sticks you had in?

Keep swapping them around until you've booted at 2GB using each combination of sticks once. That'd be 6 combinations, I think: 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 3-4...

Yhere is the test i do before :

Boot ok, 1Go per bank :

1/2/4
1/2/3
2/3/4
1/3/4

With any stick.

The only matter is when i have the four stick, regardless of how stick i use.
:shrug:
09-15-2007, 02:29 AM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynoo

Hi, im french so sorry for my english

I have an P5W Dh Deluxe with a bios id 2004.

A fresh install of Vista 64 Ultimate box version.

And 4Gb ( 4x1Gb) of G-Skill 5400U.

I installed the OS with just 2Gb, install ok.
After finish it and put drivers, i try to put all my ram...

With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

Any help or solutions ? :)

Your memory is only rated 667 - 4x1GB puts more strain on the memory controller and the MB. You probably need higher MCH and looser timings with 4x1GB. What are all your current BIOS settings ,volts, memory timings etc and what are you running your CPU at. Are you trying to run memory 1:1 or higher - if so you really want better out of the box spec memory like Crucial 8500C5 which is great o/c memory at a very cheap price.
09-15-2007, 02:48 AM
Kynoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesdave

Your memory is only rated 667 - 4x1GB puts more strain on the memory controller and the MB. You probably need higher MCH and looser timings with 4x1GB. What are all your current BIOS settings ,volts, memory timings etc and what are you running your CPU at. Are you trying to run memory 1:1 or higher - if so you really want better out of the box spec memory like Crucial 8500C5 which is great o/c memory at a very cheap price.

I dont try/want to overclock, i juste want to have all my ram under Vista :)

Voltage : Auto and i test from 1.8 to 2v without issue.

latency : Manual from 4/4/4/12 to 5/5/5/15 without issue ( my ram is a 4/4/4/12 )

Cpu : Stock fsb and voltage.

Ram FSB : 667
09-15-2007, 03:51 AM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynoo

I dont try/want to overclock, i juste want to have all my ram under Vista :)

Voltage : Auto and i test from 1.8 to 2v without issue.

latency : Manual from 4/4/4/12 to 5/5/5/15 without issue ( my ram is a 4/4/4/12 )

Cpu : Stock fsb and voltage.

Ram FSB : 667

I was running 4x1GB under Vista x64 on the P5W no problem - it likes memory best at 1:1 but I do rember I posted about a Vista 4GB bug for which there is a patch..I will dig it up and repost.

Shame not to o/c an E6600! If you are running stock the CPU will only be 266 x9 = 2.4 which means you memory is only running DDR532 which is underutilised. You want to run the CPU with FSB =333 (333x9=3.0) to get the memory running at rated speed 1:1. An e6600 should do that no problem on stock volts ot there about. It is always best to maually set the BIOS settings - then you can fiddle to get it running stable with confidence. In the meantiime Set A1 to maunual and set the following:

CPU Freq=333
DRAM freq=667
Perf Mode = Standard
PCI express=100
PCI Clock=33.3

Memory volts= 1.9 or 2.0
CPU vcore=1.375 - 1.4v
FSB=1.3
MCH=1.55
ICH=1.2

Set your memory to 4,4,4,12,4 and disable both DRAM ECC,DRAM Throttling and and Hiperpath. leave memory remap enabled.

Under CPU settings disable all PICE ..

Under HW monitor disable all q fan functions.

This will give you a very mild o/c to 3.0 amd much better perforamce. Use the same settings even if you want to run with CPU frequency at 266 and lower memory. Here a link to a guide for expamles of the settings if confused http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...03#post4808903.
09-15-2007, 04:09 AM
sesdave

Vista x64 and 4GB memory issue.

Here is a link to my previous post with links to Microsoft Hotfix and background details re this known 4GB memory issue.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=22

Read the latest posts on this thread as things may have moved on since I posted - there may be a later hotfix! I never needed it as when I switched to crucial ballistix and a P5K MB I never encountered any issues.
09-15-2007, 05:22 AM
DrSlump

Hi to all. I'm italian so, sorry if i make some mistakes writing in english language.
I wish to submit a problem:
does this mainboard have some problems running 4Gb or more, when all four memory slots are used?
Now i use a 2Gb gskill dual channel memory kit, HZ series, they run@800Mhz, with 4-4-4-12 timings.
If i buy another 2Gb kit of these, will the mainboard support them???
Is it true that the 975x supports only 667Mhz bus when all memory slots are used??

Thanx
09-15-2007, 05:42 AM
lawrywild

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)
09-15-2007, 06:06 AM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)

But you do have the best memory around - Crucial Ballistix 8500C5! recommend them for any MB - best price in the UK http://misco.co.uk/applications/Sear...1078&CatId=784
09-15-2007, 07:40 AM
lawrywild

PC2-5300 actually ;)

The 8500 did cost quite a bit more when I bought, the Misco deal is just amazing though.
09-15-2007, 08:03 AM
sniggle

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.
09-15-2007, 08:13 AM
DrSlump

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)

Nice!
These are the memory i got: F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ (1GB x 2)

I olso would upgrade my e6600 with a q6600 g0 and another pair of that rams :)

but i would like to keep the system at least @3Ghz..
09-15-2007, 10:58 AM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

PC2-5300 actually ;)

The 8500 did cost quite a bit more when I bought, the Misco deal is just amazing though.

Lawrywild - apologies I thought you had these. Sell yours and get these while they are going at this price - they were £10 cheaper but are obviously popular. On 4x1GB I can run them 4,4,4,12 upto about 1066 or 5,5,5,15 upto 1200 with little or no volt increase. They are worth the investment cos DDR3 is way overpriced and DDR2 will be around for at least a couple more years.
09-15-2007, 11:01 AM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniggle

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.

If you bought as a dual pair and it wont pass memtest at rated speed RMA it.
09-15-2007, 02:02 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesdave

Lawrywild - apologies I thought you had these. Sell yours and get these while they are going at this price - they were £10 cheaper but are obviously popular. On 4x1GB I can run them 4,4,4,12 upto about 1066 or 5,5,5,15 upto 1200 with little or no volt increase. They are worth the investment cos DDR3 is way overpriced and DDR2 will be around for at least a couple more years.

Why :confused: The ram is no the limiting factor, the 975x is. Plus, I know these ram are capable of over 1000MHz at 4-4-3-4 on only like 2.2v so no need. I'm happy that these just work fine and don't error :) :)
09-15-2007, 02:05 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniggle

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.

This is what happens when the motherboard is what's causing the failure, not the memory. You have simply pushed the memory controller too far. 975x is not good at clicking memory very high. I get this exact 'freeze' after aboout 925MHz DDR2 or so, my board is not a good one for memory clocking, some can go 1100Mhz but it's very rare. 1000MHz MAX seems about normal though.
09-15-2007, 02:34 PM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

Why :confused: The ram is no the limiting factor, the 975x is. Plus, I know these ram are capable of over 1000MHz at 4-4-3-4 on only like 2.2v so no need. I'm happy that these just work fine and don't error :) :)

Fair point - I forgot I don't have the 975x now. So we are both happy with the ballistix we got.!
09-15-2007, 03:53 PM
sniggle

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

This is what happens when the motherboard is what's causing the failure, not the memory. You have simply pushed the memory controller too far. 975x is not good at clicking memory very high. I get this exact 'freeze' after aboout 925MHz DDR2 or so, my board is not a good one for memory clocking, some can go 1100Mhz but it's very rare. 1000MHz MAX seems about normal though.

I think you're right. I tried my known good ram and the same thing happened. Once I raised the NB voltage a notch it worked fine. Unfortunately, I ended up buying some replacement ram anyway. Not sure whether I should go for 4GB or just replace it.
09-15-2007, 11:04 PM
palito

i am Having this problem for a couple of days now,Azureus Locks up my Router

when this happens i am not able to surf nor do torrent Downloads

only on a system restart things get back to normal (note Router is ok,when i restart the the computer i am able to surf,i dont restart the router at all)

i think this is something to do with the Marvell Yukon Drivers,i am using the Drivers Given the Mobo CD

this matter is driving me nuts,pls help me out
09-15-2007, 11:19 PM
w2richwood

try the update drivers from the asus web site
Rich
09-16-2007, 02:27 AM
DAK1640

What BIOS for Q6600 ? I am still running 1503 lol...
09-16-2007, 03:39 AM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniggle

I think you're right. I tried my known good ram and the same thing happened. Once I raised the NB voltage a notch it worked fine. Unfortunately, I ended up buying some replacement ram anyway. Not sure whether I should go for 4GB or just replace it.

Another option would be to get a P5K premium MB which is a lot more flexible with memory. I previously had Corsair XMS 6400 (v2.1 Promos chips) which I couldnt get to o/c above its rated DDR800 on the P5W but happily ran near 1000 on the P5K. It would probably let you get a better o/c all round with you current CPU and memory and better position you for the penryn. Some will say wait for the P38 but a P5K will last you a few years with cheap DDR2 memory compared with very expensive DDR3 on a P38 MB.
09-16-2007, 05:09 AM
palito

everytime I open a program, it hangs for a few seconds before opening.

u know that instant Response is not there,i though this was a HDD prb So Fragmented,prob still remains :mad:

any fix ?
09-16-2007, 06:57 AM
holwill

Picked up a Q6600 GO L724A828 at my local pc shop today, loaded up Lawry's 2004 bios and it is sat @333fsb 3.0ghz @stock volts. Well done mate nice work :clap: .
Would be nice to get this up to 3.6ghz as per my last E6600 but this may not be possible. One thing I am seeing is a differance of temps at idle between core1/2 (22,23)and 3/4(28,28) not sure if this is norm and the differance remains the same maybe upto 8c under load!
09-16-2007, 12:44 PM
X7007

Everyone Listen.

I need you to check something.

All of you who has VISTA 32bit or 64bit , Ultimate or Premium.

When you do not overclock everything is fine, but when overclocking there is some weird black screen before login. you must have seen it, it only takes 1sec, but when it happens you only see the Password box and the Language tab.

i hope you know what i am talking about.

it happens when i go higher than 270 FSB or something , or i go high on my ram.

2GB Cellshock (2X1024) DDR II - PC6400 4-4-4-12 (D9GMH) 800MHz

How much can i go with them with how much Voltage? can i do them 4-4-4-12 800 mhz 2.20 ? thats what it says on the sticker.

but it seem that i have problems, i just dunno why.
09-16-2007, 03:16 PM
WeldZilla

Hey sesdave, first you say you forgot you don't own a 975X board anymore than you spend every other post tryuing top sell P5K's. Why don't you do this thread a favor and take you and your thread crappin P5K ass outta here . You were never smart enough or good enough for the P5WDH so take a f=ing hike and take your P5K with you...Dilweed son-of-a-biatch.

WZ
09-16-2007, 06:07 PM
scaramonga

Feel the love :rolleyes: :D
09-17-2007, 01:29 AM
X7007

Cant run more than 340FSB, it always error in superPI and prime.

i tried all voltages, all everything, CPU and Memory are good, the only thing is the chipset, whats his problem, it could run before on 350 at least.

Could the Beta bios make errors on Gold Memory test ? same error over and over.

i am using the 2302, should i go back to 2004?

i am losing my mind, no one helps.
09-17-2007, 03:34 AM
DrSlump

Quote:

Originally Posted by X7007

Cant run more than 340FSB, it always error in superPI and prime.

i tried all voltages, all everything, CPU and Memory are good, the only thing is the chipset, whats his problem, it could run before on 350 at least.

Could the Beta bios make errors on Gold Memory test ? same error over and over.

i am using the 2302, should i go back to 2004?

i am losing my mind, no one helps.

Do you get the errors using the same bios setting that you used in the past bios versions?
If the settings are the same and they was good for the past bios versions, you could, according to me:
a) Try to use an older bios version, with wich the settings worked
b) If the settings does not work anymore, you could try to use another psu unit... that's joust an idea.
09-17-2007, 03:37 AM
holwill

Quote:

Originally Posted by X7007

Cant run more than 340FSB, it always error in superPI and prime.

i tried all voltages, all everything, CPU and Memory are good, the only thing is the chipset, whats his problem, it could run before on 350 at least.

Could the Beta bios make errors on Gold Memory test ? same error over and over.

i am using the 2302, should i go back to 2004?

i am losing my mind, no one helps.

Well all i can say is picked up my q6600 go yesterday and loaded up Lawry's 2004Go bios and it would boot at 3.0ghz@stock vcore but failed P95 within minutes. Upped the vcore to1.30v and it failed on core3 @8.53hrs and core 4 @8.59hrs so I tried 355fsb and up to 1.4vcore and it would fail in minutes. Now prior to this my E6600 was stable @3.6 400fsb@1.475vcore so I guess it could just be the boards and Quad cores don't mix well. Need to do some more testing before I write it off and start looking elsewhere, shame as I love this boards stability with dual cores!
09-17-2007, 03:39 AM
X7007

Ye it worked perfectly with no error in Gold Memory, this error is weird, its just the same error over and over, but prime and OCCT doest show anything.
but before the beta bios there were no errors for 8 hr at least.

No , i didnt get the errors using the same settings.
09-17-2007, 05:26 AM
X7007

Quote:

Originally Posted by holwill

Well all i can say is picked up my q6600 go yesterday and loaded up Lawry's 2004Go bios and it would boot at 3.0ghz@stock vcore but failed P95 within minutes. Upped the vcore to1.30v and it failed on core3 @8.53hrs and core 4 @8.59hrs so I tried 355fsb and up to 1.4vcore and it would fail in minutes. Now prior to this my E6600 was stable @3.6 400fsb@1.475vcore so I guess it could just be the boards and Quad cores don't mix well. Need to do some more testing before I write it off and start looking elsewhere, shame as I love this boards stability with dual cores!

Thank god, i thought everyone are running Stock Voltage, thats impossible, they dont do full tests and say its stable, what happend to you happend to me too, and i always thought everyone always has better cpus for overclock.

Did you test the BLEND test ? i will revert to 2004 bios.
09-17-2007, 06:41 AM
lawrywild

??? 3.0GHz on stock volts here, ran 8 Hours SmallFFT P95 on all 4 cores. Perfectly stable ever since.

You got really unlucky if the cpu doesn't do 3Ghz on stock volts, most likely the motherboard holding you back.. then again, you have a B3 and holwill and I have G0's.
09-17-2007, 06:56 AM
DrSlump

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

??? 3.0GHz on stock volts here, ran 8 Hours SmallFFT P95 on all 4 cores. Perfectly stable ever since.

You got really unlucky if the cpu doesn't do 3Ghz on stock volts, most likely the motherboard holding you back.. then again, you have a B3 and holwill and I have G0's.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i read that holwill has a G0 stepping, while 7007 has
a B3 stepping.
But, 3Ghz, should be an easy target to reach with the core technology, isn't it?
I've readen that the bios 2301 changes some timings settings to a value recommended by intel. Try using that version, maybe you will obtain better results.. i hope.

Thats my doubt: may a psu a limiting factor for cpu overclocking? It would be interesting if holwill could try another psu to push further with the overclocking... or not? :)
09-17-2007, 07:15 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSlump

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i read that holwill has a G0 stepping, while 7007 has
a B3 stepping.

Ya.. I believe that is what I said :confused:

Quote:

But, 3Ghz, should be an easy target to reach with the core technology, isn't it?
I've readen that the bios 2301 changes some timings settings to a value recommended by intel. Try using that version, maybe you will obtain better results.. i hope.

Thats my doubt: may a psu a limiting factor for cpu overclocking? It would be interesting if holwill could try another psu to push further with the overclocking... or not? :)

975x is not good for clocking quad cores, period.
09-17-2007, 07:48 AM
sesdave

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeldZilla

Hey sesdave, first you say you forgot you don't own a 975X board anymore than you spend every other post tryuing top sell P5K's. Why don't you do this thread a favor and take you and your thread crappin P5K ass outta here . You were never smart enough or good enough for the P5WDH so take a f=ing hike and take your P5K with you...Dilweed son-of-a-biatch.

WZ

I love U too! But as you so politely point out I no longer have my P5W that I had so much fun with so I will move onto relevant threads. Maybe see you there in the future.
09-17-2007, 07:56 AM
DrSlump

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

Ya.. I believe that is what I said :confused:

975x is not good for clocking quad cores, period.

I see, so the difference about you and holwill is only the bad luck?
I'm a bit scared about changing my e6600 with a q6600... i would not go under 3Ghz overclocking.
09-17-2007, 09:06 AM
holwill

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSlump

I see, so the difference about you and holwill is only the bad luck?
I'm a bit scared about changing my e6600 with a q6600... i would not go under 3Ghz overclocking.

No bad luck mate, my vid is 1.2625 and if i need to run 1.30-1.3125 to be stable @3.00ghz for 12hrs+ P95 then no problem, both my e6600 needed more than that @3.0ghz. Now regarding bios's I will stay with lawry's till I hear that the official ones will allow me to disable onboard audio. Overclocking wise it would be nice to get to 3.6 again, but probably this board will not allow that in which case I will move onto a P5K-Deluxe or X38 if the price is right. As it stands performance wise I do not feel any differance really as to be expected .I still need to do some more testing which should not take that long as after having this board for over a year I pretty much know its quirks. But as it stands this is a cracking board for Dual Core Cpu's which is what I originally brought it for and will be remembered as one of the most stable boards I have owned :) .
09-17-2007, 09:44 AM
pee4

I'M BACK !!!

Back to E6600 + P5WDH. Arhhh. Tranquility at last.

A three week encounter with a Q6600 + P5K-E/Wifi + Crucial 6400C4 drove me nuts. More BSOD's than any P5WDH owner could ever imagine.

I've sold that stuff and will go Q6600 + X38 + Corsair as soon as X38 is available.
09-17-2007, 11:12 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSlump

I see, so the difference about you and holwill is only the bad luck?
I'm a bit scared about changing my e6600 with a q6600... i would not go under 3Ghz overclocking.

Not bad luck with the CPU. Bad luck with how the motherboard clocks, yes, but also how the memory and other components work alongside the motherboard.
09-17-2007, 12:11 PM
holwill

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

Not bad luck with the CPU. Bad luck with how the motherboard clocks, yes, but also how the memory and other components work alongside the motherboard.

So lawry what has been your highest FSB so far with the GO? I have played some more tonight and do not think this board is gonna be stable over 340-345
even upping the vcore to 1.50 will not allow it to show any sign of stability with 355fsb.
09-17-2007, 12:56 PM
berdde

Orthos/Prime95 large FFTs unstable

I have a very strange problem. Initially I thought it's memory but now i think maybe it's the motherboard.

Memory is Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 rated 5-5-5-15

e6600 OC to 3.3GHz
FSB 367
memory 1:1 = 734

Vcore 1.4875
vMemory 2.2
Vdimm 1.4
vMCH 1.6
All CPU options disabled.
SPD enabled, timing set at 5-5-5-18

Orthos/Prime95 25.3 Small FFTs stable for more than 5 hours. But Large FFTs almost always failed at around 1 hour plus 50 minutes. If I lowered the vMemory it failed more early.

Since it is rated at PC2-8500 how come it is difficult to run it at 734MHz? The strange thing is that when not OCing, that is , CPU at 2.4GHz, FSB 266. Then I can jump the memory to 1065MHz and it was stable for several hours in large FFTs. So it seems to be that this motherboard has problem working this memory at 1:1 or hig FSB? When FSB is 367, if I set the memory to higher than 734 (not 1:1 ratio) then it failed more frequently. That is, at FSB 367, the highest memory speed I can get is 734, and it is NOT stable. But when FSB of 266 I can run memory at 1065MHz although it's not 1:1. Well I might be too strict as at FSB367, memory 734, it ran memtest86+ more than four hours no problem. The problem I found is the error at both Orthos and Prime95. Should I worry?

I tried to move memory to slot 1, 3 to slot 2, 4, nothing happened.

Should I replace the memory? BTW the memory module cannot be recognized by my another board ASUS P5K-E but it appear to at least working to some extent in my P5W DH Deluxe.

Comment is welcome. Thanks!
09-17-2007, 01:11 PM
X7007

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdde

I have a very strange problem. Initially I thought it's memory but now i think maybe it's the motherboard.

Memory is Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 rated 5-5-5-15

e6600 OC to 3.3GHz
FSB 367
memory 1:1 = 734

Vcore 1.4875
vMemory 2.2
Vdimm 1.4
vMCH 1.6
All CPU options disabled.
SPD enabled, timing set at 5-5-5-18

Orthos/Prime95 25.3 Small FFTs stable for more than 5 hours. But Large FFTs almost always failed at around 1 hour plus 50 minutes. If I lowered the vMemory it failed more early.

Since it is rated at PC2-8500 how come it is difficult to run it at 734MHz? The strange thing is that when not OCing, that is , CPU at 2.4GHz, FSB 266. Then I can jump the memory to 1065MHz and it was stable for several hours in large FFTs. So it seems to be that this motherboard has problem working this memory at 1:1 or hig FSB? When FSB is 367, if I set the memory to higher than 734 (not 1:1 ratio) then it failed more frequently. That is, at FSB 367, the highest memory speed I can get is 734, and it is NOT stable. But when FSB of 266 I can run memory at 1065MHz although it's not 1:1. Well I might be too strict as at FSB367, memory 734, it ran memtest86+ more than four hours no problem. The problem I found is the error at both Orthos and Prime95. Should I worry?

I tried to move memory to slot 1, 3 to slot 2, 4, nothing happened.

Should I replace the memory? BTW the memory module cannot be recognized by my another board ASUS P5K-E but it appear to at least working to some extent in my P5W DH Deluxe.

Comment is welcome. Thanks!

With my Cellshock i dont have this problem, but i do need to give them 2.30V to be stable, or SuperPI fails after couple tests, try another bios, the beta.

QUESTION Please Anwser : What can cause to CRC Failed from extracting files from WINRAR or lets say the game Stranglehold Demo 1.92GB after extracting from RAR it has EXE file which Extract more files, which always CRC Failed in Data2.cab, i tried Opera browser, Maxthon browser, couple servers, from softpedia, Gamershell.

what can be the problem ??
09-17-2007, 01:30 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by holwill

So lawry what has been your highest FSB so far with the GO? I have played some more tonight and do not think this board is gonna be stable over 340-345
even upping the vcore to 1.50 will not allow it to show any sign of stability with 355fsb.

I don't care to be honest, I just stick with 333.
09-17-2007, 02:59 PM
WeldZilla

Ok fine sesdave. you can stay but limit your responses to the p5WDH and quit trying to be a salesman for other boards. If guys are interested in opther boards they will find the re,evant thread.
now why on earth are you people in here using memory that must run at 5-5-5-15 at such horrible low fsb speeds. I have shoved 4 sticks of 6400HZ into my machine which means I have to urn it down abit but come on right now I am running 4 sticks at 400fsb with the mem running 1:1 with my timings set at 3-3-3-4. that is with only 2.5V. Too many are just murdering their performance in here with such horrible memory timings.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=243534
If your memory won't do it then change it!!
Here is 4 sticks running 425 1:1 with the timings set at 4-4-4-4.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=243857

OK now that is all I'm going to say on this. If you can't get good timings it is your own damn fault not the board's.
Now I'll quit befopre I chew my own ass for being a memory salesman. I will say too many of you have bought the wrong memory and the board had nothing to do with that.

WZ

PS. Best stability is actually achieved at 400FSB when you use 3-3-3-5 timings
09-17-2007, 11:22 PM
DrSlump

Quote:

Originally Posted by holwill

So lawry what has been your highest FSB so far with the GO? I have played some more tonight and do not think this board is gonna be stable over 340-345
even upping the vcore to 1.50 will not allow it to show any sign of stability with 355fsb.

My main board reachs 400Mhz fsb and 3200Mhz cpu, with a v.core=1.4V and memory 1:1 4-4-4-8, v=2V.
Actually i keep my system@350Mhz to have 3150Mhz on the cpu and leave the speed step enabled, so it can scale to 2100Mhz when needed.
09-18-2007, 01:04 AM
X7007

Does anyone have an idea why i always have CRC errors when i am trying to extract big games or installing games ?

in Gold Memory i have a memory test program in dos always find error same error over and over again, but prime or superPI doesnt find anything.

could be the memory dead ?
09-18-2007, 10:26 AM
freddeman

Strange bios problem

Hi.

I have a very strange problem with my bios.

I use the latest beta 2302 bios and all settings in bios are saved on exit as they should except the onboard HD Audio settings and serial port setting. These settings remains enable whatever i do, if i disable them and save and then reboot they revert to enable.

But all other settings like memory timnings, FSB settings and so on are saved on exit

I always do a Cmos reset with the jumper for aprox 30 sec when i do a bios update.

What the heck can be wrong?
09-18-2007, 01:03 PM
X7007

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddeman

Hi.

I have a very strange problem with my bios.

I use the latest beta 2302 bios and all settings in bios are saved on exit as they should except the onboard HD Audio settings and serial port setting. These settings remains enable whatever i do, if i disable them and save and then reboot they revert to enable.

But all other settings like memory timnings, FSB settings and so on are saved on exit

I always do a Cmos reset with the jumper for aprox 30 sec when i do a bios update.

What the heck can be wrong?

Thats a problem with this bios and 2206,2301,2302

2004 is the only one without the problem.
09-18-2007, 01:16 PM
Pete

I am so tempted to go back to this bord. P5K Deluxe just doesnt clock.

Whats the best BIOS out and working for a E6850 G0 stepping CPU?
09-18-2007, 02:04 PM
X7007

Does anyone here give more than 2.20V Memory voltage ?

How much do i need to give my ram to go higher more than 800mhz 1:1 ? my ram is rated 4-4-4-12 800MHZ 2.20, how much is safe , and how far can i go?

please whoever knows.

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