once you know how much it undervolts then you know how much to compensate with the manual bios settings.
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once you know how much it undervolts then you know how much to compensate with the manual bios settings.
Agreed.
now all I need is better ram than this un user friendly geil pc8000:mad:
any suggestions welcome. I know I can get more out of this rig;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
i need an interpreter for this review
I reported the 1X pci express lane width errors to Asus and to my surprise they forwarded the feedback I gave them to the engineering department:eek:
Will wonders never cease?
Lets hope help is on its way:cool:
lets hope a bios update solves the problem.. hate it
Quote:
Originally Posted by hot_fifty
lets hope a bios update solves all the problems :p: I am having every single issue people are talking about with this board.
this really are boards with character. really good for lots of people but then quite some people with kinda strange problems. when i got this this board and e6300 i couldn't come anywhere, maxed at 2.2g, that was with 507 bios or something. i thought i got the first bad chip or p5b-d, but then i flashed 711 and now i'm runing stable at 3.4 with 486x7 at 1.43V, which i am very pleased with, could pushed it more but thats for when i get the water. so i doubt i will upgrade the bios unless it bring something spectacular, like unlocking the 8 multi :slobber:. but many people don't like this bios but my mb does, so it's like wondering if all these boards are really all the same. so my bet is that the bios has the fault for this problems, apparantly each board has it's own favourite one :p:
I had a rock solid 24/7 overclock of 3.51 GHz for 3 weeks, orthos stable 14 hours, would play 2 different instances of World of Warcraft, until yesterday, when I found my machine to have unsuccessfully tried to reboot. After powering down/unplug PSU/reboot, I got the "Windows has recovered from a serious error" message. The third time this happened, it specified a video driver. Anyone else ever have a video driver go nuts and cause frequent restarts/BSOD's, etc?
I removed the old drivers using ATI's file removal tool, and installed the newest drivers, though I have not had time to test the machine. Anything else it could be?
Mark
I don't think unlocking the 8x multi would help you much (unless your RAM can't handle ~ DDR2-1000 speeds or your mobo can't do 500).Quote:
Originally Posted by hadron
It seems my E6400 likes being run on the 7x multi, so i have been using it more than the 8x one anyway lately.
I have some MAJOR HUMONGOUS issues with this board,
1) Booting is so slow it reminds me of the good old windows 98 days
2) Sata drives are not hotswappable, even after correct install of windows and AHCI drivers(iaahci.inf and iastor.inf)which were loaded during F6 part of setup.
3) Sound is crackling like hell, sometimes even woozes and soundchanges
4) Detection of AHCI drives happens slow as well, and results in a tick once its found, as if its just starting drive at the AHCI port 1 bla bla detection thingie(and no this is not the double boot issue cuz I don't have that anymore, also fixed the link width bug)
Here are screenshots of HDtach to proof I ain't lying,
Below picture is from my WD raptor 36Gb, its my bootdisk and connected to SATA1 running in AHCI mode(or thats what I think),
http://tinyurl.com/yxcbrt
Note that my random access was around 9ms on my previous board(dfi lanparty sli-d), my bursts were alot higher as well, and so were my reads.
This is my second harddisk and its connected as a data disk to SATA3,
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/7...xtormd6.th.jpg
Bios modes are set as follows, Jmicron = IDE, SATA = Enhanced/AHCI, only have one real IDE drive and thats my nec burner, its connected with normal IDE cable to the red connector located directly below the 24pin power connector.
Also have these two processes running all the time and I don't know whether or not they are necessary,
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/7...tmondh7.th.jpg
notice the files called IAAnotif and IAANTmon, if thats supposed to get me hotswappability it sure ain't working. Besides, I can't remember a single motherboard for my entire life that required weird processes to be running in order for an end users to have Sata hot swappability?
These are screens of my device manager, maybe someone can spot where the error lies,
http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/2415/1hc7.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/1...iverxs0.th.jpghttp://img344.imageshack.us/img344/6546/hdkg9.th.jpghttp://img344.imageshack.us/img344/1343/smbusvu9.th.jpghttp://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6...copypy1.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/4...copyyt3.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/8...copybw2.th.jpghttp://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3...copyoa0.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/5...copykk9.th.jpghttp://img276.imageshack.us/img276/6...copysf4.th.jpg
If someone of you here has a mobile rack or whatever and use the HOT SWAP feature then plz drop in and see if you can help me out this is really driving me bonkers. I even called Asus germany this afternoon and I am from Belgium so it was long distance, waited half an hour with the same tune and still no response, then I realized, WTF am I doing calling these noobs who probably know nothing about all these problems let alone ways to fix them.
I don't care about the audio problem, if maybe a soundcard would fix that then I can live with that but the hotswap not being there and drives booting slower then snails is not something I can live with:mad: :mad: :slobber:
Question is, if I swap this board for a different P5B deluxe will I have these same issues again?? I am running on the settings from my sig, primestable, cpu runs extremely cool(below 50°C), what else can it be but motherboardcraphola bugs or bad drivers or maybe there's special ways to install things that Asus doesn't even know about cuz their manual is like a guiding light through a cloud of mist, problem is there's no lightbulb in their light so people are stuck finding their way out of the fog alone.
im 100% stable and x1 hapens ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kwalker
regards
-first issue= driver conflicht, every time windows boots, it searches the right drivers
-second issue= i am also having that crackling, the only solution= set volume lower
-third issue=
i ll edit, no time
hmm cant say, i know my drivers have gone bad before from an OC.
Sometimes i get that error message seemingly randomly, perhaps it just happenend once and needed to be cleared... only way to be sure is testing again i guess.
those processes that are running are the AI programs that are on the drivers disc.
So are these IAA thingies needed, do they need to start up as a service or not? What about these slow access times and hot swappability:LOL: I don't think windows keeps looking for drivers, cuz I don't see any hardware wizard asking or installing new stuff when I enter windows desktop. I don't think there's a driver conflict, the real conflict is the driver itself:(
PS : Thnx to these slow access times my programs also take longer to open, how can something so simple be made so hard by people from Asus, on nforce all you did was install the SATA drivers from cd, no need to put stuff on IDE/AHCI or combination Jmicro Ide and SATA AHCI and stuff like that. Hot swap was there in an instant after you installed the drivers, now I keep waiting for the green arrow and nothing gets me the green arrow.
Sure I can put in my mobile rack, power down PC, boot up again and my mobile rack will be recognized, but that kinda defeats the purpose of having hotswappable racks:(:(
UPDATE : I have deinstalled both my soundmax program and the HD audio drivers and guess what,
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1...mentaf1.th.jpg
so thats random access time in windows problem solved, still doesn't solve the superslow boots though, cuz now my windows goes like 8 flickering bars across and my much slower opteron/dfi combo did that in 1 and a half bar's time. Not exactly C2D fast:(
But atleast I am getting somewhere, gotta tackle problems one by one, and thnx to Kakulu the word conflict made me realize that I had to start deinstalling :banana::banana::banana::banana: to see changes. So now onto the next problem and the next biggest issue for me is Hot Swap, if that could be fixed as well then I can happily live with a slower boot.
So all you thinkers, flock hether and save a damsel, eeerm guy in distress:)
-I presume u only use DVD writer on jmicron controller? If yes, set IDE mode in BIOS.
-hotswap: you dont use raid?
Which things did u install in F6 while windows installation?
If i were u, i would reinstall windows.
Go to asus.com and download that 1.1MB floppy driver for intel storage.
Copy it to a floppy.
Press F6 while install, select AHCI ICH8R!!!!!!!
Load the driver (u dont need to install jmicron while F6, my xp)
Now, hotswap SHOULD work.
- slow boot=
when does it take long?
In bios, intel storage ROM , jmicron ROM?
Good luck
my question= how have u solved the crackling of the sound?
-is it fixed after removing sound driverS?
I got my P5B Dlx Wifi board today :)
E6400 @ 3648MHz SuperPI benchable (456*8)
I have 2x1GB OCZ Gold PC2-6400 kit and it won't run any faster @ 2,4V, 5-6-6-18 timings. They don't boot @ 2,45V.
No big surprise but the mem is stopping me :( I will get some new sticks pretty soon i think.
anybody knows where you can download the newest ethernet drivers for this board ? I use the marvel miniport drivers on the asus cd but, my internet connection is there for like 10 minuts, very enoying :p . Windows says it`s a Generic Marvell Yukon Chipset based Ethernet Controller but I think it`s something else. I use the drivers from 23-5-2006 , version 8.56.1.3.
There is also a Marvell Yukon 88e8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller found , somebody know`s what the difference is between this one and the Generic Marvell Yukon Chipset based Ethernet Controller ?
Yep, only have 1 dvd writer and its connected with IDE cable to longish oldschool IDE connector, and yes set to IDE mode in bios. And no I don't use RAID.Quote:
-I presume u only use DVD writer on jmicron controller? If yes, set IDE mode in BIOS.
It boots tediously slow into windows, from startup to getting on windows desktop is 55 seconds something, on my previous board it was under 20sec, the blue loading bar goes from left to right atleast 8 times before numlock flashes, then it goes from left to right once more and then it will enter windows logon screen. If that is not slow then I do not know what is.Quote:
when does it boot slow, In bios, intel storage ROM , jmicron ROM?
to answer other question, I fixed it by deinstalling onboard sounddrivers(both soundmax proggie and HD audio driver), but thats not really a fix, hence thats why I mentioned what the cause was. But after a little bit more digging I found a confirmed fix for the crackling,
As taken from Asus forum, and I installed the drivers via a slipstreamed windows XP cd, I just added following lines to the txtsetup.sif under their respective headers,Quote:
Issue resolve!! (well, for me at least...)
I started to get audio issue with my P5B deluxe onboard audio right after microsoft update KB920872. This update supposedly fixes an issue with pausing and resuming audio with XP (which is a problem I've not encountered)
When I unsinstalled this update from Add/remove programs, everything went back to normal and the issue was resolved - no more crackling/popping sounds.
Here is a link to the "critical" update:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920872
[sourcediskfiles]
iaStor.sys = 100,,,,,,3_,4,1,,,1,4
[HardwareIdsDatabase]
[PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&CC_0104 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2821&CC_0106 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2682&CC_0104 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2681&CC_0106 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C3&CC_0104 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C6&CC_0104 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C1&CC_0106 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C5&CC_0106 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2652&CC_0104 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2652&CC_0106 = "iaStor"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2653&CC_0106 = "iaStor"
[SCSI.Load]
iaStor = iaStor.sys,4
[SCSI]
iaStor = "XXXXXXXXCUSTOMXXXXXF6XXXXBOOTXXXXMESSAFEXXXXXXXXX XX"
also adjusted winnt.sif so my drivers would get picked up on windows install by doing this,
OemPnPDriversPath="Drivers\000_chipset"
so yes these drivers are being loaded, I even see my custom boot message come up during F6 part of the install, but maybe something went wrong. I will do a clean install and report back. Iastor.sys defenitely is in my system32 directory and its drivers are on my HD's as you can see from my device manager screens.
I was wondering if anyone could give me some ideas? (hope this is the right place to put this)
I have read all the posts, hints and tips.
I've got the p5b deluxe wifi, upgraded the bios to 711, with osz platinum rev2 2x1gb pc2-6400 sdram, and the E6300.
Everything booted up fine with the standards settings. I put on a new heat sink/fan on the E6300.
I am trying to overclock this setup. I can run the FSB up to around 430 and then no further. I don't seem to be limited on core clock, as I can lower the multiplier to 6x and still face the 430 FSB limit.
OSZ claims that this SDRAM should run up to 500mhz at 2.1v , so I suspect it isn't the problem.
I started with the setup guides on various sites.
I've played with the straps and they don't seem to have any effect.
I've twiddled the core voltage, NB,SB voltages and termination voltages, nothing has an effect. I've tried all the things i've read in the threads.
I do notice, as reported by others, that the NB gets real hot when I try to go past 430. I thought that the NB could be overclocked.
Is it possible that my board just won't run faster than this? When I look at the database, I see a lot of better results for the FSB. Obviously, with an E6300, I'm limited on the core clock to 7x.
thanks
Jonathan
thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
* Processor: e6300
* Bios Revision: 0701
* Memory: 2 gb ddr2 667 pqi turbo 4-4-4-12 2.0v
* Configured Voltages: vCore, vFSB, vNB, etc. stock
* Configured FSB: 266 (stock)
* Configured Ratio: stock
* Configured Memory Timings:stock
* Any other applicable configuration modifications: none
hey I am just starting to do overclocking and I was wondering what is the best way to go about it? from what I understand the best thing to do is find the highest overclock you can do with the memory. for me it was ddr 800 with 4-4-4-12 timmings. Then I set the other options like pci clock sync (33.33), pci freq set to 120. after that I get a bit nervous. I dont want to fry my chip by changing voltages. I read the link in the first post on what to set the voltages and stuff to but I wasnt sure those would be the right settings for me. I wanted to get others input first. BTW I have a antec p180 case with the 3 stock 120 fans and the stock intel cpu cooler, also I have a 7900 gs running at stock speeds if that matters. thanks guys!
try to loosing your timings if possible so you can OC the CPU more, you should have no problem hitting much higher than 400FSB, so your memory will be preventing you from obtaining higher OCs.
Update on my problem, I ran a tool called "Intel matrix storage control", and look what happened when I plugged in my mobile rack, went to "ACTIONS" and clicked "RESCAN FOR PLUG AND PLAY DEVICES",
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/4...oootny2.th.jpg
mysteriously enough my SATA drive popped up, but this is not yet resolved, no no no, I might be able to connect my drives now, but disconnecting them again is not possible(unless I do a hard disconnect which is usually not safe for data that might still be writing to the disk).
The following problem now lies in the fact that the maxtor diamondmax 10 you see there, my 6B200M0 that is in fact a drive that supports NCQ,
Click here for Maxtor Diamondmax 10 Datasheet
It also says my Western Digital Raptor doesn't have NCQ while I am sure it does, and thats probably also one of the reasons why I am not seeing that green arrow either.
But we'r getting closer to the core of the problem, if anyone has more suggestions lemme know, feels like I am the only one doing the digging here hahahahaha just kidding.....
Here's a full output report from that tool,
System Information
Kit Installed: 6.1.0.1002
Kit Install History: 6.1.0.1002
Shell Version: 6.1.0.1002
OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
System Name:
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
System Model: P5B-Deluxe
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz
BIOS Version/Date: American Megatrends Inc. 0711 , 09/29/2006
Language: ENU
Serial ATA Information
Intel Serial ATA Controller: Intel(R) ICH8R/DO/DH SATA AHCI Controller
Number of Serial ATA ports: 6
Driver Version: 6.1.0.1002
Serial ATA Plug-In Version: 6.1.0.1002
Language Resource Version of the Serial ATA Plug-In: 6.1.0.1002
ISDI Library Version: 6.1.0.1002
Hard Drive 0
Status: Normal
Device Port: 0
Device Port Location: Internal
Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 1
Model: WDC WD360GD-00FLA2
Serial Number: WD-WMAKH1121797
Firmware: 31.08F31
Native Command Queuing Support: No
Size: 34.4 GB
Hard Drive 1
Status: Normal
Device Port: 2
Device Port Location: Internal
Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 1
Model: Maxtor 7L250S0
Serial Number: L60AHR3H
Firmware: BANC1E00
Native Command Queuing Support: Yes
Size: 233.7 GB
Hard Drive 2
Status: Normal
Device Port: 3
Device Port Location: Internal
Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 1
Model: Maxtor 6B200M0
Serial Number: B4036C4H
Firmware: BANC1980
Native Command Queuing Support: No
Size: 186.3 GB
Unused Port 0
Device Port: 1
Device Port Location: Internal
Unused Port 1
Device Port: 4
Device Port Location: Internal
Unused Port 2
Device Port: 5
Device Port Location: Internal
NOTICE that the SATA harddisk connected to SATA3 appears to be the only one to have NCQ enabled and weirdly enough this disk is also mysteriously faster than my raptor:) Its also a disk thats connected to a black SATA connector. The other black SATA connector however doesn't give me NCQ??? I feel like I am losing the plot here.