2.72Ghz Conroe, X1900CF @ 712/738 takes AM3 WR on air

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04-25-2006, 02:24 PM
gone_fishin

FCG, staggering results and am looking forward to more.

How are you getting clockgen to work with the board? I get errors when I try by using either of the listed ICS9541xx numbers in the dropdown list for 975 chipset.
04-25-2006, 02:26 PM
cupholder2.0

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Originally Posted by gone_fishin

FCG, staggering results and am looking forward to more.

How are you getting clockgen to work with the board? I get errors when I try by using either of the listed ICS9541xx numbers in the dropdown list for 975 chipset.

I use that same PLL for my D955XBK and it works fine as long as Intel Desktop control is uninstalled.
04-25-2006, 02:26 PM
VulgarHandle

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Originally Posted by DilTech

Same way intel justified their prices during the P4 vs A64 days?... It was the same, if not worse, than this upcoming one.

Either way... AMAZING FCG!

i don't remember the first athlon64's pounding intel's top of the line by 20%, as we see here
04-25-2006, 02:33 PM
vintage_guitar

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Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

i don't remember the first athlon64's pounding intel's top of the line by 20%, as we see here

You forgot to mention the price difference as well =\
04-25-2006, 02:36 PM
cupholder2.0

@DilTech

AMD has never beat intels top end the way Conroe is owning everything...
04-25-2006, 02:37 PM
VulgarHandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintage_guitar

You forgot to mention the price difference as well =\

oh, but i did, couple posts up

back to topic:

FCG, been a while since last update, hope you're having fun :party:
04-25-2006, 02:43 PM
zabomb4163

what ever happened to the rule of crapping on WR threads = instant ban?

"Carfax" pretty much trolled this entire thread.
04-25-2006, 02:49 PM
cMw

grrrr i never liked the conroe...
04-25-2006, 03:06 PM
gone_fishin

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Originally Posted by cupholder2.0

I use that same PLL for my D955XBK and it works fine as long as Intel Desktop control is uninstalled.

I only have the lite version of destop utillies installed to monitor temps and voltages. Maybe that is it, I will have to try again sometime.
04-25-2006, 03:44 PM
tdenton1138

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Originally Posted by Unrealcpu

Yeah im in Baghdad in the Green ZONE.

Military or contractor? Either way, thank you for doing what you're doing.

:toast:
04-25-2006, 03:52 PM
DilTech

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupholder2.0

@DilTech

AMD has never beat intels top end the way Conroe is owning everything...

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2149&p=7

Every other game was pretty similiar during the dawn of the A64... :fact: Funny thing, Doom 3 was intel's best showing interms of performance during the first 1-2 years.

It was exactly like what we're seeing from conroe now. The socket 754 3000+ was pretty much even with intel's top end, and that was with a single channel memory controller. Did I mention that 3000+ costed almost half what the 3 ghz p4 did at that time? Even more-so, it costed 1/5th of the price of that EE which was the only p4 to beat that 3000+. Mobo was 1/2 the price of the intel mobo's too.

Now, back to the topic.

FCG, can we see some game benches?
04-25-2006, 03:53 PM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Durzel

Obviously you can argue the legitimacy of Anandtechs review, and Intels showcase etc etc but these synthetic benchmarks that are coming out now are showing that they probably weren't faked, it really is going to be at least 20% faster than an equivalent setup with an FX-62.

There were more than just Anand. Webmasters from PC Perspective, Tech Report, Hot Hardware, gotfrags, and others saw and played with the Rig. It took some folks awhile to see Athlon for the performance it brought, so it will be the same with Conroe.

AMD will have to hope nVidia can pull some SLI magic that will give it a boost then nVIdia would withhold that tech from Intel. Wouldn't be the first time.
04-25-2006, 03:58 PM
DilTech

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

There were more than just Anand. Webmasters from PC Perspective, Tech Report, Hot Hardware, gotfrags, and others saw and played with the Rig. It took some folks awhile to see Athlon for the performance it brought, so it will be the same with Conroe.

AMD will have to hope nVidia can pull some SLI magic that will give it a boost then nVIdia would withhold that tech from Intel. Wouldn't be the first time.

They all tested with the same system, at the same place. None were allowed to actually do anything but run those benchies. They couldn't even check the task manager.

Now, the results we see here can be trusted, but those earlier should've been taken with a bag of salt.
04-25-2006, 04:01 PM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DilTech

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2149&p=7

Every other game was pretty similiar during the dawn of the A64... :fact:

It was exactly like what we're seeing from conroe now. The socket 754 3000+ was pretty much even with intel's top end, and that was with a single channel memory controller. Did I mention that 3000+ costed almost half what the 3 ghz p4 did at that time?

Now, back to the topic.

No it's not. When A64 launched, many folks weren't buying the low yield overpriced POS's with Buggy motherboards. As those benchmarks show, the equally overpriced 3200+ was getting spanked by the 3C and ran about like the much cheaper than 3200+ 2.8C, man, revisionist history.

A one poster already noted, Dothan and Yonah was already causing AMD pain.

Now if you said X2 vs P4 Smithfield, maybe.
04-25-2006, 04:04 PM
freecableguy

FSB increases. was able to get 6x and 7x working as well as 8x.

http://members.cox.net/kjboughton/FCG_380FSB.jpg
04-25-2006, 04:05 PM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DilTech

They all tested with the same system, at the same place. None were allowed to actually do anything but run those benchies. They couldn't even check the task manager.

Now, the results we see here can be trusted, but those earlier should've been taken with a bag of salt.

Didn't matter if they did anything to it or looked inside and out, doesn't matter that fugger, Victor, FCG testing it says and anyone told you otherwise, you'd still NOT see the light.
04-25-2006, 04:06 PM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by freecableguy

FSB increases. was able to get 6x and 7x working as well as 8x.

http://members.cox.net/kjboughton/FCG_380FSB.jpg

Schweet!

Oh and I still think you have the best Avatar:)
04-25-2006, 04:08 PM
0range

Wonder how well they will overclock with a x985 board, and W/C or Phase with a E6700 @ 2.66, now thats insaine, and i mean thats stock speeds with the E6700

And i also thought that the E6400/E6500 were going to have 2mb shared L2 cache and the E6600/E6700 were going to have 4mb L2 cache

Please correct me if im wrong
04-25-2006, 04:17 PM
Charles Wirth

These 2.13Ghz chips have 4MB L2 Cache and two cores.

The model number is incorrect as these are not available in retail.
04-25-2006, 04:31 PM
VulgarHandle

i don't get it, why did intel lower their stock clocks, shortened bus?
04-25-2006, 04:35 PM
zbogorgon

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Originally Posted by freecableguy

yep, x1900 series in CF requires a master card.

now you have done it, he is going to cry :D
04-25-2006, 06:48 PM
DilTech

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

No it's not. When A64 launched, many folks weren't buying the low yield overpriced POS's with Buggy motherboards. As those benchmarks show, the equally overpriced 3200+ was getting spanked by the 3C and ran about like the much cheaper than 3200+ 2.8C, man, revisionist history.

A one poster already noted, Dothan and Yonah was already causing AMD pain.

Now if you said X2 vs P4 Smithfield, maybe.

You're looking at the AXP numbers, look at the A64 numbers, even the sempron beat the 3 ghz P4. The A64 numbers are much higher than the AXP. They don't even list the 3200+ A64, that's how I know you're looking at the AXP. As for overpriced...I bought my 3000+ pretty close to release day, at under $200, in a RETAIL store meaning online prices were even cheaper. That's cheaper than the 3 ghz P4 was, and about the same price as the 2.8C was at that time.

We all knew the northwoods spanked the AXP.

Nice revision yourself.

Now again, can we get back on topic?
04-25-2006, 07:06 PM
sabrewolf732

wow conroe is an absolute monster, kind of not fair for the other benchers :p:
04-25-2006, 07:23 PM
Your_Boss

Wow, my MS Word will be smokin with one of these Conroe babies! :D

Can you run the same game benchmarks as Anand? Maybe we can see if it really is 20%+ improvement in games as well.
04-25-2006, 07:31 PM
Unrealcpu

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Originally Posted by tdenton1138

Military or contractor? Either way, thank you for doing what you're doing.

:toast:

Miltary,

Captain U.S. Army :)

Thanks for your support.

I can not wait to come home and dump some dough on the Conroe and SLI crossfire :) Hopefully the XE conroe will be out soon because it will be going into my Vapochill LS :) I think people just need to accept the fact intel is ahead of the game with thier 65nm process which most of their plants have converted to this process. AMD's 90nm which is close to maxing out in terms of Watts/heat and MHZ unless they come out with some new technology from IBM which i highly doubt. AMD wont convert to 65nm until late 2006/2007 from what i heard :). From initial benchmarks from AMD AM2 i just dont see how DDR2 and AMD's current Architecture will overcome the conroe at all. I am sure AMD will have something up their sleeves in 2007 with some new processor with some different design. However right now for overclocking Enthusiasts the Conroe with less heat/watt and short pipeline , AMD will be in trouble.
Intel will start rolling out the conroe in their plants within a few months and once this gets more exposure im sure AMD prices will fall like a rock.

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