Which mem controller is better? CCB1E or CCBBE? From what I gathered, CCB1E is still king, non-phase.
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Which mem controller is better? CCB1E or CCBBE? From what I gathered, CCB1E is still king, non-phase.
I don't think we've seen enough results from CCBBE to say one way or the other. They are both VERY good at this point (for air/water).Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Not sure if I should call this CCBBE 0610 DPMW a turd, but it needed 1.52v to dual prime under water, ambient: 71'F, Waterblock 28'C, CPU on smartguardian: 38'C. IHS is still on....tempting to take it off but this chip belongs to my bro so it's probably not a good idea :lol: I guess it ain't too bad for only $277.
Can you guys with the CCBBE 0610 DPMW please post your TCaseMax data?
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2906.24 (322.92 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 75.0 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
At over 2.9GHz your calling it a turd :eek: :rolleyes: , wanna swap :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ben805
At only 38c I say pump a few more volts thru it.
Tcasemax on mine is identical.
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/tcasemax.jpg
Well I couldn't get 323*9 Stable at 1.475, so I bumped it to 1.5.
It did 27 Hours of Dual Prime at 2925 @ 1.5
I lowered my ambient temps to 55F and was able to get 3.0Ghz Prime Stable for around 20 minutes at 1.55.
Think I am going to settle for 325*9 2.925 @ 1.5
Well...my previous 170 needed only 1.40v to do 2.90Ghz but this 165 needed 1.52v(BIOS...not CPUZ) :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
it needed about 1.64v for 2.95ghz so that extra 50mhz don't really worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Today is very hot outside, ambient is 82'F!! Waterblock shoot up to 34'C but Smartguardian reports the cpu at 38'C (same as last night) after 9.5hr of dual prime.
Just pulled the trigger on one over at Flickerdown, grab em while you can ;)
That 170 now belongs to another Flickerdown member :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Ben, with those results, it looks like these aren't coldbugged after all.
Can you try it on your phase change? Your unit would probably bug even a "not coldbugged" Opteron, but if it functions past 240 HTT at ALL that means it isn't coldbugged like CCB1Es are.
Yours runs waaay too cool to be bugged. With similar volts my CCB1E 165 loads 10c higher on water with similar ambients.
ALL CCB1E's are BUGGED. PERIOD. My guess is that their threshold for the cold should be around -35C core temps MAX.
If the CCBWE is not bugged...anyone wanna swap LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I don't have money for phase or water and I need a chip that does well on air and It looks like the new steppins are not meant to be that way :((
Hmmm...that was odd...I was replying to this post, but now it's gone :confused:
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8080/post5ei.jpg
The best CCBWE's will bug @ -58C Core temps ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by n91htmare
Hey Stephen good to see you posting here
Can't figure out this stepping stuff, CCBBE? Originally i thought coldbugged - now it seems like just a very above average non-bugged stepping.
BTW, my 165 CCB1E bugged @ high htt (333+) @ +25c (dual loading in background) :(
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Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I wish I still have the PCICE phase change, but I sold it to Vapor two weeks ago :D :D
and yea I did noticed this chip is running very cool, idle at 28~29'C on smartguardian with ambient 81'F and waterblock 28.8'C, I use UEI DT200 with Fluke K-type probe to get ambient and waterblock readings. I'm still itching to bust out the razor blade but at this point I don't think it's even worth taking the IHS off....
Last time i saw idle temps so low as on an 0551UPMW 165. It idled at 26c and it was overclocked. Just amazing. I think the 0610DPMWs aren't coldbugged...
Your reported temperatures are accurate right, no issues with them?
I hope they're not! Stealth just got my CCBBE in the mail, he said results to come tomorrow or saturday :woot:
Just because a cpu runs cool idleing, it doesn't necessarily mean that it'll be non-coldbugged. Take for example, this one - of my ADV CCBWE 4400+'s. This is idle temp on decent water (with a gpu waterblock in the loop):Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2526/10x2801m3bq.jpg
On phase, the cpu locks up instantly @ 1.65+V and -59C Core temps.
When i say "doesn't have coldbug" i mean isn't B1, B2, B3 where it locks up at +20c.
Relatively speaking that one doesn't have much of a coldbug at all. It proves exactly what i said.
Ummm...since when has the definition of "cold-bug" been changed to +20C or below?:confused: I guess I've been away from the forums for too long :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Yeh, a lot of people are happy to have a cpu with a coldbug at -59c core :p:
Thats "non-coldbugged" to us single stagers :)
On a side note, I think the proper thing to say is "not as bad of a cold bug" or "cold bugs lower"
Not if you can't get above 3ghz @ even -50C ;) LOL...if you want it, get in touch with me :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
I personally refer to coldbug as a B1/B2/B3 that doesn't work on single stage, and non coldbug as something that works on single stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
You have different standards because you have an autocascade! lol