DFI SLI-DR Expert Edition (Worth it?)

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12-29-2005, 02:07 PM
Willis

so how is this mainboard doing on the mem feeding?
does it fluctuates?
12-29-2005, 02:32 PM
CrashOv3r1De

Not really...

Hmm i think the boards "auto" settings are not right for my rig or something//./

why is fsb 800?

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...dhuh4mb.th.jpg
12-29-2005, 03:00 PM
mdzcpa

Crash, if you need some help with the Asus, I'd start another thread or post in the wiz-bang Asus thread that is already going. Getting help in a DFI Expert thread for your Asus might be tough:)
12-29-2005, 03:18 PM
Cpt Twitchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdzcpa

Crash, if you need some help with the Asus, I'd start another thread or post in the wiz-bang Asus thread that is already going. Getting help in a DFI Expert thread for your Asus might be tough:)

QFT. In the Asus thread or in the 3d section would be best instead of a dfi thread.

And

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

I've got $20 that says you won't even be able to boot at those settings on the Asus board :D

Words say it all. You need bh5 to boot at those setting which means u need a higher vdimm as ballistix doesn't make the cut for such tight timings.
12-29-2005, 03:18 PM
Cpt Twitchy

Back on topic now I would say yes the expert is worth. Takes a little while to tweak but offers the best performance out there thus far.
12-29-2005, 03:22 PM
mdzcpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy

Back on topic now I would say yes the expert is worth. Takes a little while to tweak but offers the best performance out there thus far.

I'd have to agree. Put the performance together with the best voltage options, BIOS tweaks, and layout in the land, and its probably the top pick.
12-29-2005, 03:27 PM
loonym

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

I'd have to agree. Put the performance together with the best voltage options, BIOS tweaks, and layout in the land, and its probably the top pick.

absolutely, and the work tony, opb and others have done by posting detailed mem settings makes this a great choice for any level overclocker.
12-29-2005, 03:32 PM
Pyr0

glad i ordered one now, after reading these last few comments :p:
it should be here tomorrow, fingers crossed i get a good'un :toast:
i just hope i can figure out all these new settings, hehehe :rolleyes:
it's gonna be a fun filled next few days methinks :D
12-29-2005, 03:42 PM
TheMeatFrog

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Originally Posted by Pyr0

glad i ordered one now, after reading these last few comments :p:
it should be here tomorrow, fingers crossed i get a good'un :toast:
i just hope i can figure out all these new settings, hehehe :rolleyes:
it's gonna be a fun filled next few days methinks :D

There really aren't many "new" settings, it's just that some of the old ones behave a little differen't. To be honest the switch for me from classic NF4 to the expert really wasn't as difficult as I thought it was going to be. ;) GL with and enjoy your new toy!

:toast:
12-29-2005, 03:42 PM
afireinside

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

Please don't misunderstand me. The Asus IS a good board. Probably one of the better AMD Asus boards I can remember in a long long time. They definitely got serious about overclocking on the A8N32. Its a solid board that really flys. It only falls short in a few places....and that is in extreme voltage options and layout. Both of these short comings may not apply to everyone.

For example, if you run a single core processor and you are not running BH5, the voltage choices are fine. If you run BH5 you may want a volt mod to push it along. If you have a dual core CPU, you may also find the voltage choices a bit lean for water cooling...and definitely lean for phase change.

For the layout, if you don't have any other PCI cards you want to run, your fine as well. SLI or not won't matter. You can certainly run two cards water cooled, or two dual slot cards air cooled just fine as long as you don;t care about any other PCI cards.

I'm NOT slamming the Asus in general terms. Its a great board that has some shortcomings that just need to be factored in. If the layout and average voltage options aren't an issue, there is no reason not to have the Asus at the top of the list. But, if layout is a concern, and/or you want hearty voltage choices, the DFI is a better option IMOHO. That's all.

I understand, just needs some vmods, oldschool style then :D

crash, give up.
12-29-2005, 04:06 PM
CrashOv3r1De

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Originally Posted by afireinside

I understand, just needs some vmods, oldschool style then :D

crash, give up.

give up on what?
12-29-2005, 04:58 PM
s7e9h3n

Hehehhe.....NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY will be able to match my numbers with phase. The only way possible may be with DI or a weak cascade. My autocascade is a one-of-a-kind unit which has been modded for phase. 14 gases, 6 heat exchangers and perfect A64 temps:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4879/877xb.jpg
Of course if you had the money to buy one of these units new, if you can find one, a brand new one costs in the range of $20,000 ;)
12-29-2005, 05:01 PM
Pyr0

Holy $#:£ :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
12-29-2005, 05:55 PM
man called (E)

s7e9h3n You should be proud of yourself. All of that wasted money,time,and effort,for what? 1-2 sec. better SuperPi Time. HA ha.:clap:
12-29-2005, 05:56 PM
Undesirable

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Hehehhe.....NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY will be able to match my numbers with phase.

That's quite possibly the most over-the-top... object... I've ever seen in my life! I mean: fair play, you're a computer enthusiast; I spend most of my life putting these damn computers together myself, but I'd have at least thought +30°c was a low enough temperature for a processor, let alone -87.2°c!

It's not as if you can take it with you, either. Unless you're planning on using it to preserve your body or something? Tsk, I think you'll have to rethink the scale of the design completely for that task, unless you were only thinking of preserving a certain part of your anatomy that you may deem to be worthy of greatest priority? ;)
12-29-2005, 06:10 PM
Dumo

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Originally Posted by man called (E)

s7e9h3n You should be proud of yourself. All of that wasted money,time,and effort,for what? 1-2 sec. better SuperPi Time. HA ha.:clap:

Peeps have to try run with <-65C cpu core temp and high clocked mhz cpu first to really understand:)

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7...shot0395ko.jpg
12-29-2005, 06:12 PM
freecableguy

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Originally Posted by man called (E)

s7e9h3n You should be proud of yourself. All of that wasted money,time,and effort,for what? 1-2 sec. better SuperPi Time. HA ha.:clap:

man called (E):

I don't think you understand the point of XS... :stick:
12-29-2005, 07:35 PM
pcdoc1

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Hehehhe.....NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY will be able to match my numbers with phase. The only way possible may be with DI or a weak cascade. My autocascade is a one-of-a-kind unit which has been modded for phase. 14 gases, 6 heat exchangers and perfect A64 temps:
Of course if you had the money to buy one of these units new, if you can find one, a brand new one costs in the range of $20,000 ;)

C’mon s7e9h3n, another post like this and I’m gunning for ya…… Look out son, there’s ‘bout to be a new sheriff in town. :D :D

(Somebody please wake me up; no wait, give me a few more hours.)
12-30-2005, 04:28 AM
Jochenp

Well, If you ever need high vdimm, just go buy a ocz booster and no need to vmod the board
12-30-2005, 04:33 AM
Jochenp

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Hehehhe.....NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY will be able to match my numbers with phase. The only way possible may be with DI or a weak cascade. My autocascade is a one-of-a-kind unit which has been modded for phase. 14 gases, 6 heat exchangers and perfect A64 temps:
Of course if you had the money to buy one of these units new, if you can find one, a brand new one costs in the range of $20,000 ;)

What did you pay for it?(If you actually paid $20,000 for that unit, you're a madman in my eyes:eek2: :eek: )
12-30-2005, 08:13 AM
man called (E)

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Originally Posted by freecableguy

man called (E):

I don't think you understand the point of XS... :stick:

No,its more like "do you remember why you even got into the oc'ing game?"

I do. I had a 450Mhz K6-2 chip,and my buddy bought a brand-new pentiumIII 733MHz chip. I didn't want to buy a whole new set-up,so I went on a mission to oc that sucker. Well I was able to get it to 560Mhz and the rest is history..

Now if a person spends tons and tons of money for the simple art of oc'ing,you have defeated the purpose of even oc'ing. Its become an addiction,and a very unsatisfying one at that.

I'm personally more impressed when someone can take a cheap cpu,mix it with an unknown/untested mobo,and buy cheap ram and get their system to 3.0GHz,as opposed to someone who buys a 1,500$ cpu,400.00$ ram,2000.00 cooling,etc. and gets to 3.8GHz :rolleyes: Big deal....for that much money it should run at 9.0GHz

If getting a few "wow your cool" and "man thats a sweet overclock" replies on a message board justify spending thousands of dollars,I say "go for it". IMO stupid way to spend money.

The law of diminishing (marginal) returns
When one of the factors of production is held fixed in supply, successive additions of the other factors will lead to an increase in returns up to a point, but beyond this point returns will diminish.
12-30-2005, 08:32 AM
pcdoc1

You're still missing freecableguys point. It's not 'bout saving money, it's not 'bout value, and it's not 'bout what's important to you..... It's 'bout pushing hardware to the very edge accomplishing something no one else has. It’s the challenge, knowledge, and the effort it takes to be “King of the Hill”…… People have been doing this since the beginning of time in all walks of life, some here are doing the same…. That’s why this is XS! :D :D
12-30-2005, 08:38 AM
mdzcpa

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Originally Posted by man called (E)

No,its more like "do you remember why you even got into the oc'ing game?"

You utterly and completely missed the point FCG was making.

This is XS. Home of the xtreme overclockers. This is not CostEffectiveSystems.com. Few of our top clockers care about dimishing returns. Its not about bang for the buck. Its about pushing for the top of the heap. Its the same story in all challenging and competitive hobbies. The last few increments in performance takes a lot of money and time. This doesn't mean that we cannot appreciate good overclocks from folks that have less time and money...we certainly do give kudos for that too. But, we also appreciate our top clockers who go to xtremes.

EDIT - LOL, looks like pcdoc1 beat me to the same reply:)
12-30-2005, 08:42 AM
man called (E)

You guys must of missed me saying in my post.....

If getting a few "wow your cool" and "man thats a sweet overclock" replies on a message board justify spending thousands of dollars,I say "go for it". IMO stupid way to spend money.

A fool and his money.....Well you know the rest ;)
12-30-2005, 08:46 AM
pcdoc1

Lol........... That's a first, at my age you get used to picking up the crumbs. ;)

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