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isnt that somthing you should have mentioned BEFORE the boards hit retail? "oh by the way this board will somtimes kill your processor 1 in 4 times if you use more than 3vdimm"Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
you knowly marketed a product to us that you knew to be faulty. does anyone else see a problem with this?
personally i think its sickining to see what effectively is people being "beta" testers in retail products.( in more areas than just these,, games also )
killing cpus that cost 3-4 times the board doesnt make sense, when the technology is there to in house test most any situation, especially if the board is considered an enthusiast board.
certainly the builders and in house testing recreated what other boards that were predescsors(sp lol ) and problems /situations have experianced to eliminate that from any new technology.
i simply dont understand the mentality of developers and companies that release a product with out ever finding out the many variables that it will encounter.
now i understand that they feel the need to get it out to the public for review and hitting the shelves asap, but then again, it is well known that the DFI boards are very finicky in comparison the other manufactures.
i have long held out hope for the new board, and have my x1800xl and 2x512 4200EL TCCD's and 4000+ just sitting here in boxes waiting for something to run them on.... but im becoming discouraged more and more everyday.
i can only hope that ALL the manufacturers of the ATI chipset will get it together soon......
Flash
It's not ATI's chipset, it's the power layout on these new boards. The eXpert is killing CPUs as well and it runs on the tried and tested NF4 chipset we've all been using. The power layout has to be faulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by flashnc
Yes...on the board where the two pins were burned it was a VDIMM and nearby GND pin that burned. On the single burned pin board is was a GND pin in the memory section.
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Originally Posted by STEvil
Huh? When will you guys get it? Running a CPU at close to 2V Vcore and 3.5+V VDIMM at -100C is asking for trouble. That is the only condition that I have lost a couple of CPUs. If you think that the board is faulty if the CPU dies under these conditions, then you aren't seeing the obvious.
I have tried around 100 Grouper boards all with high end CPUs over the last year (FX53,FX55,FX57, all the X2s) and never lost one that wasn't under the cascade and/or at super high voltage.
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Originally Posted by zabomb4163
look around these forums.....seems like 1/2 of the boards have killed processors. Why are we not seeing this with any other boards?
Sorry if this had already been posted. Thought it was relevant.
HardOCPQuote:
Now knowing that this certification program is in place, and ATI is launching their CrossFire motherboard press campaign with DFI motherboards, one would think that DFI would damn sure be on the certification list. WRONG. Actually, not only is the DFI CrossFire motherboard not listed, but they are also not listed as a partner in the program at all. Call me crazy, but it seems to me that if you are going to put all your eggs in one basket, it would certainly be a “certified” basket if I was running ATI.
Form my problems I don't know - I really can't see right now how it has anything to do with the ATI chipset.
I have built two systems on this board with no issues. One is a FX55, TCCD 1GB dual channel, X850XT PE and X850 CF. <---this system is running stock clocks and has had no issues. The other is a 4000+ @2.75GHz 1.5V, TCCD 1GB ram @ DDR500 2.7Volt, FSB 500, and a X1800 XL. (My big issue is the 2nd system is running RAID 5 and the softraid 5 is giving me trouble. I corrupted the RAID set when I did not have enough Volts to the CPU.)
I know many here run high volt on ram but I also remember many A64 chips losing mem controllers a couple years ago when people were volt modding their boards. (Turn the VR and POW! cpu was dead.) Also many SLI-DR boards had long term issues with the 5V jumper enabled. I personally like using ram that stays below 3V for anything but a single bench run.
The RDX200 does need some more bios work and I am concerned over running high RAM voltage but the issues are not ATI related.
My Halibut board runs flawless....same chipset.
IMO it should read DFI :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
I haven't read the previous answers.....but i will tell my problems....!:)
First aff all i have tested on this board one FX57 2x3000 venice and one 3800 venice too!
1.Sometimes if you change some settings on the bios and then restart the machine(as always) it stucks on the second led and i have to power it off and then power it on again!Then it's ok!
2.I think that if you have small VID control ( >1.500) , when you start the machine , when it goes to the last led of the 4 it makes a restart automaticcaly and then boots normally!
3.When you have Vdimm more than 3.89 it doesn'e get to windows.....memtest is ok!!!
4.I think it is showing less 8-9C at the cpu!
All these with the new bios......!!!!¨)
grayskull your saying about 2V and -100Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
but me was 1.4V and roomtemp.
so thats out of the question :)
but thats old news, the new news is that i'll get a new board tomorrow.
now i need to wait for my cpu rma .... :mad:
i stand corrected... :slap:
i guess i should have said "all those working with the ATI chipset"...i do realise it wasnt the chipset and something to do with the board voltages.
ok let me ask anyone this......i simply want to buy a board to run this X1800XL and 2x512 OCZ4200EL TCCD's on, that is crossfire ready ( even though i may not use crossfire till all the bugs are worked out and the x1800xt master obviously becomes widely avalible )
i have run asus for my last 3 builds and have always considered buying a DFI , though ive always gone asus for their reputation for stablility ( in my case they always have been ) and decent basic overclocking. :toast:
i oc with using basic mem and voltage tweaks, but i dont think i will try to delve into extreme oc'ing, though i do push things to the limit with my little bit of knowledge gleaned from places such as this. :stick:
i have preordered a A8N32 d sli ( i know, i know, why a sli board a crossfire card?? ) manly because it has some new technology, and wanting the best out there, that board in single pcie would be great i would think.....but then im stuck with buying a new board if i ever go crossfire which i will at some point.
so....do i get the DFI RDX200..run it with basic overclocking, and wait for the problems to be corrected???? or go with a single slot mindeset for now....?..
i dont see myself pushing high voltages..one of the reasons i went with the TCCD's.... i will run my cpu @ as high as 1.60 and...on water when testing oc, and probably limit my mem voltage to 2.9maybe just a little more.
sell me this board..... :stick: thanx
Flash
Also take into account that the boards Grayskull was killing the CPU's were most likely majority of the Sapphire mobo's, The DFI is based off a non-refrence design that is supposed to be more effiencient than the refrence ATi crossfire, as I've been reading, I dont think I've seen one single person state that the Sapphire boards are diffrent than the RDX.
Sampsa lost a 57 to the sapphire... At UNDER stock clocks.
Well here is another board;
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&page=2&pp=25
ASUS A8N32 NForce4. Totally different implementation...same problem. it wasn't out more than a few days and already one death. Now check out the voltages 3.2V VDIMM. Coincidence :nono:
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Originally Posted by zabomb4163
What's your explination for that one Mr. Grayskull? And why have no ultra-D boards killed CPUs? Does this Asus use a new power regulation setup as well? I believe it does since its 8 phase or some crap.Quote:
i think my a8n32 is now defective. it's now taken a second processor..at completely stock.
And high VDIMM
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Originally Posted by afireinside
Because with NF4 ultra-D and DR-SLI we have to up vcore (auto/default wont work) to run >3.2V Vdimm...remember :)Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
With RDX and Expert theres no jumper and I can run 3.5V mem. with default vcore and kill my FX57.
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Originally Posted by mikeguava
Rectifying some assumptions...Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
As per these photos of burnt CPU socket, the 3 pins are assigned for 2 of ground (VSS) and one for DDR SDRAM I/O ring power supply (VDDIO). These pins assignment were not affected by VCORE, FYR.
Note: Captured pages can be found within AMD 939 CPU datasheet from website.
My 3200+ is still alive and the board is performing good. Will have a Opteron 144 here in four days to test with aswell, since my 3200+ (Venice DH-E3) will only do 2.95Ghz
I have NO issues with this board other than the boot-problems [startup, detection & before the loading screen of Windows].
Another sad thing is the lack of SATAII, oh well. I'm still quite happy.
-k0nsl
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Originally Posted by Supreme_Evil
Hiya, welcome to the forums and thanks for your input!
On DFI Street forums Oskar Wu is asking to the ones with boot problems to download a small file to save current BIOS settings into a txt file.
Hopefully he can reproduce alot of errors and this will make it, hopefully, easier for him to see what is going on.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29755
Hi guys,
I want to know if someone has noticed that with this MainBoard an huge Vcore Voltage is needed for reach a CPU stability in overclock :(
My CPU is stable only with 1,7V at 2520 MHz, like shown in signature :(
it's normal? :confused:
Bye
I am not finding that. CPU voltage to reach OC has been normal for me. I have a 4000+ at 2.75GHz on that board. Vcore is 1.5VQuote:
Originally Posted by ::Tiger::