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Seeings how this was a popular i thought i'd add my results too.
Tried 2 cpus (1 venice and 1 winchester) and 3 sets of ram (old ocz performance 3200 2x512/ocz TCCD 3200 2x512/corsair 3200 BH-5 2x512) and the board will not run 1t at any speed without throwing errors in memtest86+ test 8. I can only suggest this board for someone that MUST have PCI Express and AGP but cannot suggest it for any other user. The final performance of my board is weak overall and i'm rather dissapointed with it.
YMMV but mine is pretty craptacular.

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Seeings how this was a popular i thought i'd add my results too.
Tried 2 cpus (1 venice and 1 winchester) and 3 sets of ram (old ocz performance 3200 2x512/ocz TCCD 3200 2x512/corsair 3200 BH-5 2x512) and the board will not run 1t at any speed without throwing errors in memtest86+ test 8. I can only suggest this board for someone that MUST have PCI Express and AGP but cannot suggest it for any other user. The final performance of my board is weak overall and i'm rather dissapointed with it.
YMMV but mine is pretty craptacular.

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I said it wasn't any good back on post 109. I got one right after Anandtech said it was great. What a joke. I can say one good thing about it though, it doesn't die like the DFI mb's do. I've been thru 5 DFI boards and this rotten Asrock is still going.
I guess what they say is true:
Only the good die young.

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Only the good die young.

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LOL too true :toast:
These prolly would die young without decent aiflow around the NB/SB at high HTT... Little priks get pretty warm!

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I said it wasn't any good back on post 109. I got one right after Anandtech said it was great. What a joke. I can say one good thing about it though, it doesn't die like the DFI mb's do. I've been thru 5 DFI boards and this rotten Asrock is still going.
I guess what they say is true:
Only the good die young.

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Well mine's dead and going out for rma tomorrow, we'll see..

Did the 1.55 mod and it posted once, after load optimized and restart posted for a sec and then all died..
Running ram and PSU in NF2 rig now so I know their not the culprit..
Hope its just the mobo and not the CPU, plz pray for me :cool:

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Well mine's dead and going out for rma tomorrow, we'll see..

Did the 1.55 mod and it posted once, after load optimized and restart posted for a sec and then all died..
Running ram and PSU in NF2 rig now so I know their not the culprit..
Hope its just the mobo and not the CPU, plz pray for me :cool:

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So you did the mod, killed the board, and are now RMAing it? Nice :nono:

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I said it wasn't any good back on post 109. I got one right after Anandtech said it was great. What a joke. I can say one good thing about it though, it doesn't die like the DFI mb's do. I've been thru 5 DFI boards and this rotten Asrock is still going.
I guess what they say is true:
Only the good die young.

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You guys are strange. Five mobos die on you and that's a "good" board. Last time I checked the board that doesn't die is what you should be looking for.

Second, I don't know what you all are doing but this whole 1T issue has been a non-issue for me. Maybe it just doesn't like the type of RAM you're using.

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You guys are strange. Five mobos die on you and that's a "good" board. Last time I checked the board that doesn't die is what you should be looking for.

Second, I don't know what you all are doing but this whole 1T issue has been a non-issue for me. Maybe it just doesn't like the type of RAM you're using.

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I'm out of ram to throw at it... I think the biggest problem with ram is no alpha timings to adjust in the bios after playin with A64 tweaker but that's not going to help many people unless they have an ungodly amount of time to burn tuning a value board.

Fair enough, maybe I was just fortunate with my RAM selection. It definitely does have some sort of issue with 1T/2T based upon all the posts I've seen around but then again, unless you're a benchmark whore, you will probably never actually notice any significant difference between 1T and 2T in real world applications. And as you said, in the end, it's a $70 board. You get a hell of a lot for your money and considering that almost all boards, no matter their price, have issues (COUGH*DFI*COUGH) I don't think it sets the board apart from everything else in the market.

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Fair enough, maybe I was just fortunate with my RAM selection. It definitely does have some sort of issue with 1T/2T based upon all the posts I've seen around but then again, unless you're a benchmark whore, you will probably never actually notice any significant difference between 1T and 2T in real world applications. And as you said, in the end, it's a $70 board. You get a hell of a lot for your money and considering that almost all boards, no matter their price, have issues (COUGH*DFI*COUGH) I don't think it sets the board apart from everything else in the market.

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Throughout various posts in the forum, you are:

1. An asrock lver/fanboy.
2. DFI hater.

lol...

I have both this board and my old DFI NF3 250Gb. This board is so :banana::banana::banana::banana: and limited that my old system was alot faster.

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Seeings how this was a popular i thought i'd add my results too.
Tried 2 cpus (1 venice and 1 winchester) and 3 sets of ram (old ocz performance 3200 2x512/ocz TCCD 3200 2x512/corsair 3200 BH-5 2x512) and the board will not run 1t at any speed without throwing errors in memtest86+ test 8. I can only suggest this board for someone that MUST have PCI Express and AGP but cannot suggest it for any other user. The final performance of my board is weak overall and i'm rather dissapointed with it.
YMMV but mine is pretty craptacular.

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Heh, an Opty 144, 2 GB of Ballistix, never passed test #8 on that mobo. It didn't lie though - my speeds on stock HSF were the same on an Asus A8N32-SLI.

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Fair enough, maybe I was just fortunate with my RAM selection. It definitely does have some sort of issue with 1T/2T based upon all the posts I've seen around but then again, unless you're a benchmark whore, you will probably never actually notice any significant difference between 1T and 2T in real world applications. And as you said, in the end, it's a $70 board. You get a hell of a lot for your money and considering that almost all boards, no matter their price, have issues (COUGH*DFI*COUGH) I don't think it sets the board apart from everything else in the market.

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I say DFI is better because they will clock. That's what most, not all, do on this forum. DFI is set apart from all other board as it is the top clocking mb. Your on the wrong forum if you think that performance doesn't matter. Your sig says it does or why would you have the hardware you have,except the cheap mb. $70 means nothing if you are not building a budget rig.
Where I'm from there is a saying:

Fifty dollar socks and no shoes.

That is what having this hardware and a poor clocking mb is.
AMD Opteron 170 l Scythe Ninja l ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 l 2x 1024MB Mushkin XP4000 Redline l ATI Radeon X1800 XL w. Zalman VF700 Cu l WD Raptor WD740GD l 2x Maxtor MaXline III 300GB SATA (RAID 1) l BenQ 1640B l Aureal Vortex 2 SQ2500 Rev.B w/Roland SCB-55 MIDI l SB Audigy 4 l Antec P180 Case l Silverstone SST-30NF 300W Fanless PSU

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Fifty dollar socks and no shoes.

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Hey man, I respect where you come from, but you can't knock it until you evaluate it yourself. I kid you not, if it had had the HTT range I wanted (which was quite technologically feasible), I would have kept it as a first-pass eval board. It really did not restrict either CPU I put in it. If Asrock fixed that self-imposed HTT crap and gave a bit more voltage range, it would mega-rock against the best.

Also: if your CPU's not up to a clock with any given cooling solution, it tells you straight out. +1 to the board.

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Hey man, I respect where you come from, but you can't knock it until you evaluate it yourself. I kid you not, if it had had the HTT range I wanted (which was quite technologically feasible), I would have kept it as a first-pass eval board. It really did not restrict either CPU I put in it. If Asrock fixed that self-imposed HTT crap and gave a bit more voltage range, it would mega-rock against the best.

Also: if your CPU's not up to a clock with any given cooling solution, it tells you straight out. +1 to the board.

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I'm on one right now,lol. Two dfi mb going to rma. I can't use a TT BT as it won't fit. I can use wc or a vapo. I can use a 144,148,150 or a 180.

The bottom line is they are not worth the trouble. For $50 more you can get a DFI ultra-d that is very good. The new DFI boards are alot better then the older ones.

I couldn't get my 7800GTX to work on the asrock mb.

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I couldn't get my 7800GTX to work on the asrock mb.

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Well that blows it lol! It's great within its limitations tho you have to admit.

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Throughout various posts in the forum, you are:

1. An asrock lver/fanboy.
2. DFI hater.

lol...

I have both this board and my old DFI NF3 250Gb. This board is so :banana::banana::banana::banana: and limited that my old system was alot faster.

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I only need one post to see you're plain ignorant.

How are you guys defining faster? On silly generic benchmarks that don't mean anything in the real world? Because if that's the case then you're right, I don't waste my time "competing" with all you cool kids. If what you mean is in real world apps then you don't know what you're doing, simple as that. I had a NF3 250 board also and it wasn't any "faster"

The amount of DFI whores on these boards is a little ridiculous considering how crappy their products are overall. You seem to think that build quality and killing components are "quirks" With that type of mentality there's really no way to have a logical discussion. Apparently, using DFI is "cool" and using ASRock is "lame" Golly gee cool guys, I guess I'll just have to live with not being part of the cool club.

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I couldn't get my 7800GTX to work on the asrock mb.

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Maybe you should stop buying crap nvidia products ;)

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Maybe you should stop buying crap nvidia products ;)

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We are not even going to go there:slap: . BTW, I've had more red then green by far.:D

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I say DFI is better because they will clock. That's what most, not all, do on this forum. DFI is set apart from all other board as it is the top clocking mb. Your on the wrong forum if you think that performance doesn't matter. Your sig says it does or why would you have the hardware you have,except the cheap mb. $70 means nothing if you are not building a budget rig.
Where I'm from there is a saying:

Fifty dollar socks and no shoes.

That is what having this hardware and a poor clocking mb is.
AMD Opteron 170 l Scythe Ninja l ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 l 2x 1024MB Mushkin XP4000 Redline l ATI Radeon X1800 XL w. Zalman VF700 Cu l WD Raptor WD740GD l 2x Maxtor MaXline III 300GB SATA (RAID 1) l BenQ 1640B l Aureal Vortex 2 SQ2500 Rev.B w/Roland SCB-55 MIDI l SB Audigy 4 l Antec P180 Case l Silverstone SST-30NF 300W Fanless PSU

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If all that matters are synthetic benchmarks that have no real world applicability then maybe DFI is the second coming. Is that really all you guys do is try to beat each other in benchmarks? No one here plays any games, or uses any apps? So you're telling me that almost everyone on these boards spends 90%+ of their time comparing superpi and junk like that? I know there's a lot of people that do that but I was under the impression that people actually "use" their computer for something beyond synthetic benchmarks. In the real world DFI falls flat, as getting a high synthetic score doesn't even come close to the value of having a fast AND stable system (that incidentally doesn't die randomly or kill components).

btw I don't know where you're getting the idea that I like the ASRock because it's cheap. As you can tell I could have bought any board out there, it's not a money thing. imo the ASRock is the best mobo out there for the A64 if you're not gonna run SLI/Crossfire. Personally, I've used nvidia mobos and imo they are subpar with far too many issues. Hopefully, with the ULI acquisition nvidia will use the ULI engineers and coders to improve their products.

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We are not even going to go there:slap: . BTW, I've had more red then green by far.:D

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Enjoy your card :D

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The amount of DFI whores on these boards is a little ridiculous considering how crappy their products are overall.

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Could you be more specific? What issues you are talking about?

DFI lanparty boards are the best boards for overclockers. Period. I don't care what people say, I had DFI NF3 s754/939 and NF4 and they were all amazing. NF4 the best board I've ever had. Rock stable, pushed to limits. Only some minor issues but that was not a problem for me.

If you are running stock or mild overclock the sure, other boards are fine too.

Bar81-

Why not take Christmas off. One day without your personal attacks, general BS, and displayed lack of any reasonable knowledge related to the topic would be a treat for everyone. It's just one day, c'mon.......

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Seeings how this was a popular i thought i'd add my results too.
Tried 2 cpus (1 venice and 1 winchester) and 3 sets of ram (old ocz performance 3200 2x512/ocz TCCD 3200 2x512/corsair 3200 BH-5 2x512) and the board will not run 1t at any speed without throwing errors in memtest86+ test 8. I can only suggest this board for someone that MUST have PCI Express and AGP but cannot suggest it for any other user. The final performance of my board is weak overall and i'm rather dissapointed with it.
YMMV but mine is pretty craptacular.

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this board has been nothing but spectacular for me. it IS my 1st a64 board but i did my research on all boards before deciding on this one. i do not regret it one bit. nice mem performance, nice stability right out of the box. vcore and mem mods went without a hitch. i am running that cheapo nt 2 gig set from gskill right now....uff it maxes out at 220 something at 2.5,3,3,8 but the mem space for games is important for me. i have 2x256 twinmos bh5 i brought in 2000 or 2001 and i can run those babies at 266 without problems with a htt at 325.

not sure why everyone is having issues with this board. only thing is the onboard sound is crappy for opengl.

p.s the 325 are my everyday...most wanted...fear...q4...ne browsing dvd ripping...pRon watching settings...lol

These things must be really hit or miss. Glad to see folks have gotten such good results with them. I'm not sure whether i'll keep mine or not, not being able to use 1t at all has me kinda bummed. I will say i've had no boot issues ever with it and that's kinda nice compared to some of the NF3's.
Did anyone else have a problem with the AGP driver not installing with a slipstreamed XP SP2 install? I've only seen it mentioned once in another forum but it's gotta be common.

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These things must be really hit or miss. Glad to see folks have gotten such good results with them. I'm not sure whether i'll keep mine or not, not being able to use 1t at all has me kinda bummed. I will say i've had no boot issues ever with it and that's kinda nice compared to some of the NF3's.
Did anyone else have a problem with the AGP driver not installing with a slipstreamed XP SP2 install? I've only seen it mentioned once in another forum but it's gotta be common.

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try this for you 1t issues. if ur running the ocwb1 bios, flash back to the shipping 120....boot into windows with default settings....then reboot and flash back to the ocwb1.

i had to do this in order to get back my 166 and 200 mem dividers after going in and out of the bios a million times testing this nt ram.

1t works perfect for me even with 2x256 and the 2x1024 sticks installed at once...

hope this helps

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try this for you 1t issues. if ur running the ocwb1 bios, flash back to the shipping 120....boot into windows with default settings....then reboot and flash back to the ocwb1.

i had to do this in order to get back my 166 and 200 mem dividers after going in and out of the bios a million times testing this nt ram.

1t works perfect for me even with 2x256 and the 2x1024 sticks installed at once...

hope this helps

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Will do, thanks for the tip :toast: