Or get the x850xt now and sell it for the same dollars when the R520 comes out?Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
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Or get the x850xt now and sell it for the same dollars when the R520 comes out?Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
I also think that it is more likely to be highly clocked 16 pipe card with very powerful shading abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alabama Man
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Andy
I'm pretty sure ATI will make this 24 pipes, then maybe increase this as their yields get better. The 32pipe 90nm part should be pretty damn sweet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
your sig gives me chillsQuote:
Originally Posted by macci
and on topic- i wonder how difficult it will be to difficult to oc a 32pipe card :\. crazy cooling has never been a prob for people on these forums but i sure as hell can't afford it, lol.
I dont think the r520 is gonna end up having 32 pipes, it just seems too small transistor wise, at least according to rumors. The inq says its supposed to be 300-350 million trans (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21823). Meanwhile the g70 has 302 million and is a 24 pipe part (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23951).
Im sure some will argue ATI is way more efficient blah blah, but the fact is their old product was sm 2.0 and their new part is sm 3.0 and it probably took a big jump in trannies just for that transition. Basically unless the r520 is at the higher end of that range (350+) i dont see how they are gonna cram in 32 pixel pipes. Rumors only have the r520 with 10 vertex pipes however, so maybe pixel pipes dont take up that much real estate?
anyway, guess we will find out in a month or so
anyone seen this??
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24076
i know is kinda default and the fx could go higher, but isnt it a low score?? or the cards oc incredibly well?? i still think that sampsa could get close to 20k with extreme cooling and mods, am i crazy?
Not at all :woot:
Usama aka Ferrari Freak
It wouldnt make any fiscal sense for ATI to release their 32 pipe card immediatly. If they release a card that is 24 pipes that competes with the 7800gtx later this summer, all the ATI fanboys will go buy it, and they will also get about half of the regular high-end consumer base (assuming there are no huge differences between it and the 7800gtx). Then, once sales start to drop for this generation, ATI releases their brand new, shiny, 32 pipe card that they have now had longer to work on and thus preforms better. Then everybody upgrading to the super high end gets this card, leaving Nvidia in the dust until they come out with a new card. Of course, this is taking a chance, as nvidia could release their 32 pipe card first, but the higher the risk the larger the possible success.
Im rambling now, but you guys see what I mean. After all, ATI is a company that is out there to make money, and not necessairly to give their customers what they want ASAP.
For God's sake. If CPU cant pull it, GPU ends up limited at certain score in 3DMark. We are not speaking of CPU scrore in 3DMark 05...Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalStorm
How about Dual GF7800 in a single card and we bridge two Dual GF7800 Card in SLI mode and oc it. I think 30K in 3D Mark 2005 is just a easy reach.
How about quad GF7800 in single card and we bridge two quad GF 7800 by SLI mode. I think 50k in 3dmark 2005 is just a easy reach????
16k is already obtainable with 480mhz core dual 7800 gtx sli on water cooling. when the cold bug is broken, i foresee 700mhz + speeds core and possibley 20k scores!!
You foresee wrong about 20k, sorry. That would need Athlon 64 FX running @ +4,2 GHz atleast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanavit
i thought '05 wasn't cpu dependant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
Now it is :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanavit
I don't get why some people say that certain benches aren't cpu dependant. The cpu will always help or bottleneck the vga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanavit
Try to run a 9800xt on AXP setup and do it next on a FX or a Dothan. I bett there is some difference ;)
05 used to be more dependant on GFX power than overall system power. Now with the introduction of the 7800 series the graphics cards are more powerfull than ever (because of the increased no of pipelines and PCI-E) so it seems the bottleneck has shifted away from the graphics card. For 20K 05 scores you will need more CPU power and faster memory. I think it might happen with AMD's next platform and DDR2...
At least that is how I understand things...
nope, anandtech said 'it didnt even pretend to get through its stability test at 3ghz'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuperman