DFI NF4 Ultra/SLi-D BUGS and Fixes Thread

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D Now many poeple posted they had the issue with TCCD caused by using not enough Vdimm, 2,6 or so. 2,8 works fine and someone posted that the DFI even will have a bit more Vdimm than other boards.

BTW I can not understand people set the Vdimm to AUTO or 2,6 and expect a fine running system, many RAM brands require especally in DC 2,8 and maybe Oced 2.9 or more so it's always a good idea to start with 2,9 - will not damage anything and when all is running fine You can try to lower it a little.

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Err... I believe most of people are used to TCCD running low voltage. In fact, 4 of my TCCD ran best @ 2.6v Higher or lower = less overclockability (and that was measured using DMM) Why would it be hard to understand for people who are used to 2.6v on TCCD for best 2.5-3-3-8 performance suddenly needing 3.1v? BTW, TCCD with 3.1v puts out awful lot of heat and would be something to be avoided if possible.
So, guess it isn't as rosy as it could be yet... Let's see how fast can DFI massage these problems. I know Asus wasn't too good with it as usual (till maybe their 1007 bios or so again I bet)

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Originally Posted by jinu117

Err... I believe most of people are used to TCCD running low voltage. In fact, 4 of my TCCD ran best @ 2.6v Higher or lower = less overclockability (and that was measured using DMM) Why would it be hard to understand for people who are used to 2.6v on TCCD for best 2.5-3-3-8 performance suddenly needing 3.1v? BTW, TCCD with 3.1v puts out awful lot of heat and would be something to be avoided if possible.
So, guess it isn't as rosy as it could be yet... Let's see how fast can DFI massage these problems. I know Asus wasn't too good with it as usual (till maybe their 1007 bios or so again I bet)

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:D Hm - I didn't talk about 3,1 Vdimm, I agree that's to much but even on my NEO2 I have to set 2,9 Vdimm to get 2,5-3-3-5 stable at 12 x 280.

Sure - this is a hard overclock but my thought was that it maybe helps if higher voltage is required by DFI NF4.

I read it in many posts - poeple say they can't install Windows and when they increase the voltage it works fine.

Even at stock settings ( 13 x 200 with the FX-55 ) and VDimm in AUTO mode (2,7) there is no go for me, have to increase up to 2,8.

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Is everyone with tccd problems using all the on-board extra power connectors or at least the one near the chipset, or not?

Hey OPP, any chance you'll have those screenshots today? Much appreciated.

As far as my update goes... thanks to those that sent the updated links... I had an older copy of the PDF manual on my desktop (from several weeks ago when someone posted it here during beta-testing).

After going to the 2/1 BIOS, my VX RAM still showed up as 3-3-3-8. Stability issues were still happening. I already plugged in the FDD and HDD connectors and that didn't help my situation any. I also had unplugged my 2 DVD-RW drives, several case fans, and my 2 other hard drives. The PSU I am running is a TrueControl 550W, but a OCZ PS 520W is on it's way tomorrow, as the T.C. is a 20-pin PSU and I don't want to use adapters.

So anyhow, I manually adjusted my RAM settings to be 2-3-3-8 for now and bumped the voltage to 2.8v. I have been totally fine with everything at "stock" settings. I'm letting my new week-51 3000+ Winnie burn in for a few days as I wait for the OCZ PSU and my new Swiftech waterblock to get here.

I am still questioning what I should do with this RAM situation though and why the SPD is giving the incorrect number. OPP, did your VX shows up as CAS 2 why you first put it in, or did you O/C and adjust setting immediately?

Thanks a lot,
Brian

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Originally Posted by xgman

Is everyone with tccd problems using all the on-board extra power connectors or at least the one near the chipset, or not?

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Yes... and it doesnt seem to help any.

OCZ vx will not show as 2-2-2 on auto setting. you need to adjust it manually. ;)

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Originally Posted by btomasie

Hey OPP, any chance you'll have those screenshots today? Much appreciated.

As far as my update goes... thanks to those that sent the updated links... I had an older copy of the PDF manual on my desktop (from several weeks ago when someone posted it here during beta-testing).

After going to the 2/1 BIOS, my VX RAM still showed up as 3-3-3-8. Stability issues were still happening. I already plugged in the FDD and HDD connectors and that didn't help my situation any. I also had unplugged my 2 DVD-RW drives, several case fans, and my 2 other hard drives. The PSU I am running is a TrueControl 550W, but a OCZ PS 520W is on it's way tomorrow, as the T.C. is a 20-pin PSU and I don't want to use adapters.

So anyhow, I manually adjusted my RAM settings to be 2-3-3-8 for now and bumped the voltage to 2.8v. I have been totally fine with everything at "stock" settings. I'm letting my new week-51 3000+ Winnie burn in for a few days as I wait for the OCZ PSU and my new Swiftech waterblock to get here.

I am still questioning what I should do with this RAM situation though and why the SPD is giving the incorrect number. OPP, did your VX shows up as CAS 2 why you first put it in, or did you O/C and adjust setting immediately?

Thanks a lot,
Brian

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Well I just booted it up, and the strangest things are happening. First, it powers on, beeps once, and the DFI Logo is just stuck there on the screen, then after about 5 seconds the CPU fan turns off, and I have to turn off the computer. I've tried clearing the CMOS and disconnecting all my fans except the CPU fan. I'm using a stock HSF and pluggin the fan into the CPU fan header on the mobo.

EDIT: Just tried pluggin in CPU fan directly to PSU and now the fan stays on. But It still just sits there with the Logo showing, and all the fans are going pretty slow...

I've noticed a few people mentioning issues with booting up and the DFi logo just staying on the screen. I first had that too and eventually worked myself out of being "stuck". The lower-left corner of the board (once installed) has the 4 LED's. Mine stayed stuck with 2 lit, which I understood as it having an issue with the RAM. I originally had the RAM in slots 1 and 3 (the yellows). Once i swapped them out to 2 and 4, I got past the DFI logo and to the boot up sequence (and from there promptly went into the BIOS and shut the logo off!!) so that I could see all the settings from that point on.

Hope that helps someone.

Brian

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Originally Posted by btomasie

Hey OPP, any chance you'll have those screenshots today? Much appreciated.

As far as my update goes... thanks to those that sent the updated links... I had an older copy of the PDF manual on my desktop (from several weeks ago when someone posted it here during beta-testing).

After going to the 2/1 BIOS, my VX RAM still showed up as 3-3-3-8. Stability issues were still happening. I already plugged in the FDD and HDD connectors and that didn't help my situation any. I also had unplugged my 2 DVD-RW drives, several case fans, and my 2 other hard drives. The PSU I am running is a TrueControl 550W, but a OCZ PS 520W is on it's way tomorrow, as the T.C. is a 20-pin PSU and I don't want to use adapters.

So anyhow, I manually adjusted my RAM settings to be 2-3-3-8 for now and bumped the voltage to 2.8v. I have been totally fine with everything at "stock" settings. I'm letting my new week-51 3000+ Winnie burn in for a few days as I wait for the OCZ PSU and my new Swiftech waterblock to get here.

I am still questioning what I should do with this RAM situation though and why the SPD is giving the incorrect number. OPP, did your VX shows up as CAS 2 why you first put it in, or did you O/C and adjust setting immediately?

Thanks a lot,
Brian

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Btomasie, just as trans am posted, VX has SPD timings of 3-3-3-8. Bump the voltage to 3.2 (what's the point of getting VX = Voltage eXtreme memory if you're running it 2.8v?), manually change timings to 2-2-2-10 and you're flying.

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I've noticed a few people mentioning issues with booting up and the DFi logo just staying on the screen. I first had that too and eventually worked myself out of being "stuck". The lower-left corner of the board (once installed) has the 4 LED's. Mine stayed stuck with 2 lit, which I understood as it having an issue with the RAM. I originally had the RAM in slots 1 and 3 (the yellows). Once i swapped them out to 2 and 4, I got past the DFI logo and to the boot up sequence (and from there promptly went into the BIOS and shut the logo off!!) so that I could see all the settings from that point on.

Hope that helps someone.

Brian

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I had my 2x256mb in slots 2 and 4 at first. Then I tried just one dimm in slot 2, still no luck getting past Logo.

Ok now I have 1 stick in slot 4, and the CPU fan works while connected to the motherboard header. Now instead of beeping once and freezing at logo, I get long continuous beeps, and no post. 3 out of 4 of the diagnostic LEDs are on. What now?

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Originally Posted by Blue078

Yes... and it doesnt seem to help any.

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How about a straight in 24pin from the PS?

mrlobber,
thanks for the input. The only reason thus far to keep it at 2.8v was to ensure that I have a fully stable "stock configuration" setup before cranking up the CPU, RAM, or video card settings. And the OCZ PS PSU doesn't get here until tomorrow, so I'm hesitant to be messing with too many voltage settings right now.

Thanks again,
Brian

Ok, small update. Slots 1 and 2 beep once, but then wont get past DFI logo (3 out of 4 Diagnostic LEDs). Slots 3 and 4 won't post at all and has long continous beeps. I've tried (512mb)Corsair BH-6 as well as my (256mb)GSkill TCCD. I have no idea what to do now, i've played musical chairs with all the dimms and cleared CMOS several times!

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Originally Posted by psycho303

also have massive usb problems, machine sometimes hangs on bios boot screen with usb plugged in and very often windows doesent recognize usb devices. yesterday changed usb cable and all went fine (usb hhd read speed was 30mb/sec . today turned machine on and no usb devices, even after rebooting / on-off swichting. just gone. i have a look at this after work

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Originally Posted by xgman

This is also my biggest issue right now.

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lets share some machine specs. here mine :

board A00
bios : 2005/01/25
usb settings in bios : default, tried everything
gfx : 8MB SiS PCI (no xpress :D )
mem : mushkin 3200 level 2 bh-5 (one stick at moment)
intel 1000 mt network card
onboard network stuff disabled (cause boot pxe wont work for me)
hdd-less system boot via network
psu : 470w beqiet 24 pin psu
ps/2 mouse & keyboard

on everybodys machine all usb stuff went fine ???

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Originally Posted by apu673

Ok, small update. Slots 1 and 2 beep once, but then wont get past DFI logo (3 out of 4 Diagnostic LEDs). Slots 3 and 4 won't post at all and has long continous beeps. I've tried (512mb)Corsair BH-6 as well as my (256mb)GSkill TCCD. I have no idea what to do now, i've played musical chairs with all the dimms and cleared CMOS several times!

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maybe a dumb question, but are you sure the Vid card 6 pin power is plugged in? It seems your problem is obviosuly beyond your ram, as you have tried so many combinations.

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Originally Posted by psycho303

lets share some machine specs. here mine :

board A00
bios : 2005/01/25
usb settings in bios : default, tried everything
gfx : 8MB SiS PCI (no xpress :D )
mem : mushkin 3200 level 2 bh-5 (one stick at moment)
intel 1000 mt network card
onboard network stuff disabled (cause boot pxe wont work for me)
hdd-less system boot via network
psu : 470w beqiet 24 pin psu
ps/2 mouse & keyboard

on everybodys machine all usb stuff went fine ???

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Mine is a pre-release version board (r.pr32). my specs are in my sig, but I already sent it back for a retail release that they are overnighting me, but at least my tccd sticks worked up to 300htt on the sample board. Now I am worried that the reatail board won't work as well.

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Originally Posted by xgman

Mine is a pre-release version board (r.pr32). my specs are in my sig, but I already sent it back for a retail release that they are overnighting me, but at least my tccd sticks worked up to 300htt on the sample board. Now I am worried that the reatail board won't work as well.

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Mine does :)
see
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...831#post703831

:( Oh guys - whatcha postin' here - my board has been shipped today and now I'll get nitemares tonite............ :confused:

Well I figured out i'm just an idiot...I have 2 Disc Drives and 1 IDE harddrive, well I left one of the disk drives unplugged and that seemed to be the problem. Everything is good now, dual-channel and all. Running memtest right now.

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:( Oh guys - whatcha postin' here - my board has been shipped today and now I'll get nitemares tonite............ :confused:

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You'll be fine HCC :)

Have you got your waterblock yet?

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Geoff

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Originally Posted by uranium

Mine does :)
see
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...831#post703831

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Thanks, encouraging. :) Give me some hope that nice my pre-release experience with tccd wasn't going to end.

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Originally Posted by uranium

Mine does :)
see
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...831#post703831

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Actually looking at your specs, they are very close to mine except I have a pcpc PS. I wonder if the FX is behaving differently than others? Which power connectors on the board are you using and what voltages on vcore and ram?

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Originally Posted by xgman

Actually looking at your specs, they are very close to mine except I have a pcpc PS. I wonder if the FX is behaving differently than others? Which power connectors on the board are you using and what voltages on vcore and ram?

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Voltages are actually in the picture in the link- if you believe smart guardian ;)

Anyway they are: RAM 2.9, CPU 1.55
I'm not using the FDD or Molex connectors on the board
The wiring in my (small- PC60) case looks like a birds nest as it is.... ;)

Hmm, 1.55vcore at almost 3 gighz? Nice work!

I have the 24pin plus the molex plugged in near the chipset.