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Thanks for the explanation mike. So far I can run 10*245 at 2 2 2 5 memtest stable at about 3.2. One of my sticks can boot into windows and run sandra at 10*260 at 3.5v. The other stick doesn't seem to like more than 3.3v but hits around 10*255. I am hoping after burn in I can get dual channel memtest stable at 10*250-255.
the most important thing is, is it better clocking than the cheaper version "plain twinmos mtec 50B 1a4t" ?
mine seems to be able get 250mhz 2-2-2-x 3.2v with 50% chance (out of 10 sticks). max out at 26x (3.4v) or 27x (3.6v), due to some of it don't like high voltage (>3.4v).
what about tmsp? is it better?
http://img212.echo.cx/img212/1685/8x300prime7cj.th.jpg
I still have Problems with SuperPi 32m.Memtest passed many hours without Errors,Prime and 3d is no Problem @8x300mhz.
http://img212.echo.cx/img212/6043/2610stable8cr.th.jpg
9x290mhz passed SuperPi 32m but Prime fails after Seconds.Cpu is 0437 CBBFD.Max ~2.6ghz@1.7V :rolleyes:
Mainboard DFI Ultra-D,2x512mb TwinmosTwisterPro DualChannel-Kit.
i recieved last night from www.komplett.co.uk
2x512 twinmos speed premium 3500 with these markings:
05154 BH5 TMD7608F8E44B
was hoping for good results, but at the moment im stuggling, it could be down to the new mobile barton 2500 i have just put in to replace my crazy clocking xp1700, but my old twinmos 3200(2 Yrs old - 3125E W942508BH5) was running fine with that 1700 @ 2,2,2,5 200 for about 2 yrs, im barley able to get this stable at 200 whatever the voltage im throwing at it :(
Just ordered 2x512 twinmos speed premium 3200 BH-5 from komplett, £41 a stick aint bad.
Its because your using an NF2 board, I'm willing to bet on it. Nf2 never liked 512 sticks of BH-5.
Well this is how it stands now... through checking with my old ram, my new mobile barton isnt the problem, its the ram for sure...
at spd timings 217*5 2.5-3-3-8 in memtest dual channel is spewing out 20000+ errors, if i take it back and test one stick at a time they pass fine :(
ive also now Vdimm modded my board so have 3.25V for the ram available if i need it, its on a switch so tis optional..
Kinda stuck on where i can go with this now i seem to have tested about everything i can and cant find any way of settling it down.
Your right theres every possibility that its because i got a nf2 board, but still even 200 2,2,2,11 isnt too much to ask from this ram :(
anyone got any suggestions as to what i can try now, im kind of stumped?
I rma mine with similar symtoms...can only run cl2.5-3-3-8 on 200 only but not anything up. Works fine though on single channel on cl2-2-2-5.Quote:
Originally Posted by slunge
Seems like not match pairs to me.
did you rma with the intention of getting another 2x sticks back again? - sounds very much like the symptoms im getting.
im debating rmaing them after some more testing, only problem i can see is that if they test the sticks individually they seem to pass so ive got a funny feeling they might just reject my rma, im also debating using both sticks in my board but only in single channel mode.. that and also to try each individual stick in the alternative slot -
so far ive tried them individually in slot 1 - nearest the psu, i may do the same in slot 3 so that the other half of th memory controller can take a run at them.. grr searching for inspiration :)
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Will be testing 9gigs of PC3500 SP BH-UTT within the week... I'll start a thread about my results
After having a hell of a time with the 1A4T TwinMOS SP PC3500 "BH-5" from Komplett UK with my old NF7-s I managed to successfully RMA them and get a full refund - including delivery charges surprisingly.
I've not doubt they would have worked much better on my current DFI NF4 but I only got my A64 rig after I RMA'd the sticks.
doh! sounds like lots of peeps are having probs with this memory and nf2's, all this after i spent the weekend voltmodding mine as well! :)
seems a shame to send it back but still..
:edit: coinsidently mine was from komplett.co.uk as well.
after testing the sticks individally in slot1 (nearest psu - not sure if thats 1 or not), and both sticks passed... decided to test them in slot 3 (cd drive end) and one of my slots passed and the other failed...
so it looks like at least one stick is going back if not both, im debating keeping one now i have voltmodded my board but im not convinced if i get another stick this memory is overly happy with my board...
peeps with nf2 board and utt ram experience, u think if i get another error free stick it will run any better??
I keep trying to get this through to people....
UTT/VX is the new CH5 chips, but the BH5 (even the new production) is still the same old BH5. It will act the SAME as the old BH5 did on NForce2 boards.
Try a CPC-OFF bios and see what the results are.
The UTT/VX/newCH5 chips are a totally NEW animal and have incredible results on NForce2 boards (and A64's) but anything with BH5 new or old will act like it always did, they did NOT make any changes to the design.
The UTT/VX/newCH5 chips are a NEW design, combining technology from Winbond with technology from Infineon to make a seriously awesome NEW ram.
Nothing will make BH5 new or old work any better on NForce2.... aside form redesigning NForce2!!!
Ill have the A64 running tommorrow... and Ill take my Kingston BH5 (hyperx3000) and beat the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of it. But the BH5 only does 240Mhz CPC OFF rock solid on my NForce2, while my UTT/VX/newCH5 does 250Mhz CPC ON. If as I suspect the BH5 comes alive on the A64, then that'll prve once and for all that NForce2 memory controller and BH5 just dont get along well, and that will be that with that.
GRRR.... DFI SLI-DR, 2xRaptor36G, X850XTPE are all sitting here awaiting the 3700+SD's that FedX still hasnt delivered....GRRRR
Slunge, are you outside of the 10 day cool off period? Because if you arnt komplett will take them back even if they are not faulty. Plus, they now have speed premium 3200 CH-5 in stock at £48 a stick.
first thing, i am using a cpc off bios, its a default abit one, but cpc is off for sure.. ta anyhow
i may rma this and try to see if i can grab some of the ch5, which i take it is the sp3200.. im 99% sure one of the sticks i have is dodgey..
also yeh im probably inside the 10 day period, but the rams been opened for one and i think it has to still be sealed and the other thing is i shuoldnt have to pay for the delivery/resend fees if the rams faulty, gonna look in to it.
Good luck with your rma, it sound as if one stick is most probably faulty. Yeah the 3200 SP is CH-5, it says it clearly in the title.
What packaging did the modules come in, curious, because if the BH-5 I recieve are suckas, then their going back.
an small bubblewrapped envelope in 2x antistatic wraps, the main packaging was a box - because i orrdered a dvd writer at the same time.. ive still got the packaging, only problem is that the staticbags were sealed, mind u im just hoping they accept my reasoning for the rma, in dual channel they are insanley bad, in single chan one isnt 100% right.
gonna sort it out in the morning, thanks for your help :)
? There are NO Abit bios's that are CPCoff....none. That was one of the principle driving forces behind TicTac and others to make modified bios's... to make a CPC OFF version.
TicTac's D26MantaXTcpc is the best one Ive run across, gives me the best results. The "cpc" on the end means cpc OFF. Normal D26MantaXT with cpc on works great with the UTT/VX/newCH5 chips but BH5 doesnt get along with CPC ON on NForce2 boards.
My NF7-S, 3.35Vdimm (Vdimm mod + 3.3Vrail= 3.5V) does 240Mhz 8,2,2,2.0 with 2x512M of TwinmosSP CPC ON. Same setup does 210Mhz max 5,2,2,2.0 2x512M BH5 CPC ON.... CPC OFF gets to 235Mhz.
Before you dump the ram, get TicTac's CPC OFF bios and try it out. Also remember that the bios's default drivingstrength/slewrate settings are not that great, BH5 tends to like DS 6 SR 7, you'll need to use WPCREDIT/SET to alter these at Windows boot. Also the "Alpha" timings are too tight in the bios's (TicTac tried to fix this but wasnt able to in the bios. So you need to use WPCRSET to alter these too. CHeck AMDMB.COM forum, the ABit section, and search for WPCRSET instructions, I spelled it all out there.
thx for the clarification, maybe im getting mixed up with cpc and cpu interface..
after checking the timings, im fairly sure that the rams running at 2T timings, will take another look.. some good info there, ta
my new ram :
256MB TWINMOS SPEED PREMIUM PC3500 BH-5 :) 05094
http://img69.echo.cx/img69/5350/hpim02142ul.th.jpg
http://img69.echo.cx/img69/6871/hpim02190ip.th.jpg
and new 512MB modules PC 3500 05144
http://img69.echo.cx/img69/3889/hpim02229mu.th.jpg
http://img69.echo.cx/img69/4639/hpim02249ia.th.jpg
They are good sticks, mine clock as good, or better than my old KHX BH-5:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&page=2&pp=25
Would any of you kindly enlighten me on what these modules are, I believe CH-5???
http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app...218-405&depa=1
And what max fsb(you know what I mean) I could expect from them with say 2.5-4-4-8-1T and 2.8 vdimm (max on my 9nda3j without mod)...
Ah, I just ordered those sticks from newegg and I should get them today, in maybe 5 or 6 hours. I'll certainly let you know what I get, and then you should have an idea on what you will get.
And if i forget, just send me a PM and i'll tell ya. So till then....
Watch out!Quote:
Originally Posted by Royicus
If you buy twinmos non SP from Newegg you will get CADT chips which are terrible overclockers...
I got my twinmos SP 3200's from the egg this week and they were 1A4T's.
Had them up to 260 @ 3.55, but my crappy winnie's memory controller sucks and errors. Will boot into windows and run programs just fine though, just not prime and superPi stable.