Sapphire Shows Radeon Xpress 200 Enthusiast Board @ CeBit

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03-11-2005, 01:08 PM
Bloody_Sorcerer

*wipes chin* *puts on fresh clothes*
well, now that i finished that...
HOLY CRAP!!!
I personally like the color scheme; its like the DFI schemes in that its bold (except this is bolder; i've never even seen white PCB)
03-11-2005, 01:09 PM
situman

Quote:

Originally Posted by deception``

If this is a jab at my thread (which simply aimed to be a guide for individuals as they piece together a system), then you are getting off the mark. And as far as DFI: they have fewer quality issues than one might think. Yes, there are a number of enthusiasts that have run into problems, but this is not representative of the majority. On the contrary; you'll find that, with most things, individuals are more vocal about a product when they are disastisfied more than anything. So you basing your opinions on the negative threads amongst the forums only provides you with a one-sided (albeit very audible) opinion.

Believe it or not, there are many individuals that are satisfied with their DFI NF4 motherboards. Hell, even the MSI boards have been known to die occassionally, but they still remain a very successful product.

I never said that ATI/Sapphire could never release a desirable product. Rather, I simply stated that more information is needed to draw any sort of conclusions. At least with the DFI NF4 boards people had other products from DFI (such as the NF3 UT, LP B Ultra B, and Intel DFI boards) that they could use as proof of their committment to the enthusiast.

deception``

lol
03-11-2005, 01:11 PM
conrad.maranan

I wouldn't mind having onboard video. It can come in handy if you kill a card and don't have immediate access to another one.
03-11-2005, 01:14 PM
situman

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdzcpa

LOL...I change mobos about as frequently as a change my underwear. And I am loyal to no brand. If this ATI mobo works great, I'll use it. If not, I won't.

As far as someone mentioning Abit's financial health and DFI's being "fragile" that's just bunk. Abit chose not to report some financial information and received a regulatory notice and some idiot at the Inquirer interpretted the story wrong. Abit just came of one of thier best years financially. Not to mention that they do a ton of white box stuff that people never talk about.

As far as DFI, for every problem report there are a dozen happy users. The trouble reports are high because practically everyone is running one.

As far as I see it, the battle will be between DFI and ATI on this one. Abit, although I have no concern about them financially, I do thnk they have slipped. They have resorted to plastic gimmicks for the kiddies instead of true enthusiast features. The DFI NF4 is currently the cutting edge in terms of voltage options and the ability to handle heavy duty OCing. This new ATI mobo could be a great challenger.

That said, I'll reserve my final judgement when I put one through its paces with my own two hands.

I really dont know much about Abits financial information, so I won't comment on it anymore. Abit is resorting to plasticky tricks, ram cant possibly that get hot with only 2.8v :rolleyes: Abit has become the Toyota of motherboards: high quality, high content, low risk products. I'm very anxious to see the new ATI boards in action, especially when it comes out with its own "SLI." Nvidia vs ATI, VIA = bye bye.
03-11-2005, 01:14 PM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by conrad.maranan

I wouldn't mind having onboard video. It can come in handy if you kill a card and don't have immediate access to another one.

Yeah that's true, It also makes It easier for someone to upgrade from a slower cpu platform, Like an XP-M.
03-11-2005, 01:15 PM
Bloody_Sorcerer

yeah i've done that a couple times... i crushed my 9600 a while back with a a XP 2200+ heatsink and was forced to use some wretched PCI video card for a few weeks...
03-11-2005, 01:21 PM
mcnbns

Whoops, I can't read. I guess it does have onboard video. :)

If it's cheaper for the one without onboard vid, that's what I'll get.
03-11-2005, 02:11 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caper

Komplett here in Sweden has listed 2 Sapphire mobo´s based on ATI Xpress 200.
One with onboard video and one without.
The one with onboard video seems to be released pretty soon, within 14 day´s.
The one without onboard video are expected 1 May.

Note that ETA are Kompletts and can be changed but it seems they are not that far away :)

Woawww, if the boards are really the ones we hope they are, then the price is incredible :eek:

Only a MSI K8T NEO2 FIR is cheaper, otherwise, the two Sapphire are the cheapest of all 939 boards.

Smells like :banana4:

edit:

link added: http://www.komplett.se/k/kl.asp?bn=10482
03-11-2005, 02:14 PM
Caper

That´s what confusing me...can they be this cheap??
If they are... :banana:
Proper link:
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.asp?sku=307851&cks=PRL

$ 126
03-11-2005, 02:15 PM
Zebbo

Incredibly beautiful board, but how do those blocks perform? I guess those blocks costs half of the board's price, just because they look cool. IMHO too early to do judgement yet :)
03-11-2005, 02:16 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caper

That´s what confusing me...can they be this cheap??
Not that I do mind :)

I'm having a hard time believing it but i'd like for sure.
03-11-2005, 02:17 PM
babalouj

wow, if they are gonna be that cheap, sign me up for two!
03-11-2005, 02:26 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by babalouj

wow, if they are gonna be that cheap, sign me up for two!

Waiting for two gigs of TCCD, i was scaring myself thinking the same and feelin' a little crazy for that.

That's what XS is cool for, so many peeps as crazy as i am or MUCH MUCH more that i can feel normal :hehe:
03-11-2005, 02:35 PM
Stewie007

Man, I'm thinking of selling my MSI Neo 4 for this one :p. 3 water blocks? I'll use two with a regular water cooling setup, and put my chiller on the third block. Course I might swap it with a block that would be less likely to crack at sub zero.

Anyways, it looks to me like ATI is goin for the gusto. >=) Making a bang into the market, then going for mainstream. :p It worked in Graphics.....
03-11-2005, 02:40 PM
thebluesgnr

The board available for pre-sale could be this one:
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ulti...49.html#000000
03-11-2005, 02:52 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebluesgnr

The board available for pre-sale could be this one:
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ulti...49.html#000000

Yeah, it would make more sense.
03-11-2005, 03:11 PM
Caper

Yes it would...but Komplett specifies SATA.
Can ya see SATA connectors on the Sapphire boards at ocworkbench?
Maybe just me beeing blind?
03-11-2005, 03:24 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caper

Yes it would...but Komplett specifies SATA.
Can ya see SATA connectors on the Sapphire boards at ocworkbench?
Maybe just me beeing blind?

Seems like so by the IDE connectors, what d'ya think?
03-11-2005, 03:29 PM
DevilsRejection

Sticky this, and is Saphire was smart they would send samples to OPP, Fugger, OPB, and Macci
03-11-2005, 03:32 PM
Caper

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRun

Seems like so by the IDE connectors, what d'ya think?

Me beeing blind :)
Seems like SATA connectors.
03-11-2005, 03:55 PM
CHEMICAL

Quote:

Sticky this, and is Saphire was smart they would send samples to OPP, Fugger, OPB, and Macci

agreed^^^

this is got to be the best looking board i have seen hope they keep the specs!!!!!!!!!

now all ati needs to do is employ chilly1 to start making custom ati cascades
03-11-2005, 04:05 PM
Nubius

Quote:

Don't be so quick to assume. I think that we can all agree that the board looks great, but we have yet to see any real results from this product.

deception``

Finally someone else whos pickin up what I'm puttin down. That's what I said on like...page 1....these days people are pumping out more bells and whistles than functionality...

IMO that Fatal1ty board is all looks with not so much in the performance section. Dude jonathan is just trying to market his name with a board that doesn't even perform well enough to justify the extra cost.

I'm not a fan of ATI's video cards except for the 9xxx vs the FX series, but a motherboard is a whole new issue and if it lives up to good quality, high overclocks, and all that good stuff then I will definitely pick one up when I crossover to AMD64...however...much like these other people..I would like to see onboard video tossed out..

For a 'top OC'ers board' onboard video shouldn't even be remotely considered...so that makes me wonder to some degree how much this board will be able to hang under the knife.

EDIT: I will say though, I LOVE the fact that they put the NB in a good position so I could put on my northpole NB cooler from microcool. That thing is relatively tall, and with the NB where it is, I won't have to worry about a graphics card hitting it! :D So that's awesome.

Don't much like where the 4pin power is located though at the top of the board though..of course this is just personal pref, but I like the 4pin and the ATX power connector to be near each other :p:
03-11-2005, 04:18 PM
Klisp

.. tobad i don't have a clear case. Wish OPP would get one to test on some phase.
03-11-2005, 04:26 PM
Ackbar

I'm curious... if the waterblock were to break/leak, would they cover the board under warranty? If they're going to sell the waterblocks as an option on the board, I think they should. Don't you?
03-11-2005, 04:28 PM
Nubius

Quote:

I'm curious... if the waterblock were to break/leak, would they cover the board under warranty? If they're going to sell the waterblocks as an option on the board, I think they should. Don't you?

Good point. What if it fried your board and your R520 :p:

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