ok, i added a lot to the lists :) thx a lot everybody! :toast:
rauf, charlie had good results with bh5 on his av8, are you sure the latest bios doesnt work with bh5? did you use 512mb bh5 sticks? what revision was your board?
ok, i added a lot to the lists :) thx a lot everybody! :toast:
rauf, charlie had good results with bh5 on his av8, are you sure the latest bios doesnt work with bh5? did you use 512mb bh5 sticks? what revision was your board?
i used 2x256 A-Data BH-5, latest bios (15) have tried many diffenrent, and it's a rev 1.1 board.
Do you have a link to charlies results? I've tried everything there is and it's no good. Have seen many others with problem with BH-5 and this board.
There are still users who complain of weak OCing with EB chips on the MSI Neo2, even while using the DDR booster, so I think it's still a gray area for now..
Hi...
I'm reading the development of this thread very carefully cuzz i'm going to change system next week...my cpu and board (sig) are already sold!
The cpu will be probably a Winchester 3500+ 0,90 ... the mobo i'm still choosing between Giga or Msi Neo2 Platinum...i'm a little bit bit more turned to keep the msi mobo.
The ram will not be the correct for this type of platform (got to buy 1gb of tccd maybe ;) after selling this ocz 4000 kit), but i still own 2x256mb of bh5 from mushkin that with this rig but watercooled maxed out at 262 at 2-2-2-5 with 3,4v...
http://img23.exs.cx/img23/2678/overclock.jpg
Now is there any vmod's for this mobo???Vcore, vdimm??? Guess vdimm mod is something tike the vdimm=vio am i correct???
In my case i have an enermax 465 fully modded (12,5,3,3v rails) guess i will not need the booster!
What really makes me like on this mobo is that for what i've heard here and in msi forums is that the vcore is very stable thing that doesn't happens with the gigabyte!
Bios is another question...seems that the original bios sucks, seems the 1,36 beta bios works very well, any owners of this baby could tell yours opinion of it????Opp,Jason,etc....????
Thks in advance guys!
uhmmm not really, just pm charlie or search for his dry ice thread :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauf
he almost made a world record with his fx53 and some bh5. he was running the fsb in 5:4 with the memory at 240 2-2-2. he said the board is hard to master, but its gereat once you figured how to tweak it.
i changed the list and removed the note saying eb works with the latest bios. its now saying that it doesnt like the eb memory :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HKPolice
VoRtAn_MaDgE, jason is banned on this board ;) and opp seems to like the neo2 iirc
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauf
My v1.1 SUCKS with Gskill memory no matter WHAT slot/What voltage. So take this with a grain of salt.
TIP: If having problems with BH5 ram, try the following:
1) Do 3.3v = Vdimm mod
2) Set HTT multiplier to 4x and HTT to 230Mhz - Lower HTT does not boot for some users.
3) Boot and overclock via clockgen, and tweak via A64tweaker.
Just wanted to say:
I did all that, didnt work.. I probly got a bad mobo or some,
But I'll be getting the MSI K8N soon ;)
for my FX-55 :)
I think you need to test more. Just remembered: when using slot 3&4 it wouldn't boot at 200MHz 2.5-3-3-7 or 2-2-2-5. But when turning it up to 250MHz or more it works fine with 2.5-3-3-7. Mine got up to ~275MHz, that's the maximum HTT my board can handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrunchTime
saaya: 240MHz 2-2-2-5 with BH-5 is not what I consider good. Nforce 3 can get much higher than that. The Abit also seems picky about what manufacturer of BH-5 also, Kingston seems to work best while A-Data is no good at all. I'm guessing charlie used Kingston
Epox 9NDA3+ nforce3
problems with 512mb bh5 sticks
Is this problem still there ?
Isnt it fixed with the new bios ?
Can someone tell me pls :)
Im really leaning towards the Abit board. Do you like it overall RAuf? I love Abit tweakability and quality. Ill be getting 2x 512 of mushkin Lvl2 v2 pc3200 as well.
Is that a winny CPU? and if so Did you have to flash bios for yours to boot with it? May make a auto flash disk if need be. Not100% sure what cpu to get yet!
It's definately a decent board if you have TCCD-memory but no more. Most can't handle HTT above 275-285. I've actually got a MSI NEO2 on its way, it's a much better choice. The cpu is e Newc. but I also have a 3200+ on its way with the moboQuote:
Originally Posted by Jethro
30k in 2k1 makes it worthwhile going from 20k or so! So far its looking very much worth the money.
I believe the ram i intend on is v2 TCCD thanks to the xtreme guides. Im not looking to make the leaderboard just making sure its worth an upgrade :) It would be cool to just push the ram to a decent high, max out the cpu with me cooling and of course let the GT flex abit. :D
Thanks for the info.
[img]http://orb-z.com/image/3200nAV8.gif[/img]
3200+ 0433SPMW, this is at 1.6v and the chip has more in it.
http://orb-z.com/image/2600.gif
Only bad thing abt the AV8 physically is that I have no idea how the designed OUT the lower right hand screw.
http://orb-z.com/image/Screw.gif
Other than that, vCore is a bit unstable, set at 1.6v in BIOS, drops to 1.53v and climbs to 1.6v, reminds me of ASUS P4P/C800 series. Tweaking within windows due to uGuru, erm..voltages up to 2.8v which is kinda low for vDimm, but there are voltages for NB & SB and even HTT! :shock:
Good board, better than the MSI K8N Neo2 which was just plain quirky I felt, but was very feature rich.
which rams did you üse for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Good stuff sin22! Did you install the mosfet heatsinks?
Yup did that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro
Will clock more tonight once I'm back from work....
what ram are you using dood?
Ok...with the request of several people the following is a list of the MSI K8N Neo2 Plat-Ultra's bugs and their respective fixes:
1. When exceeding 220HTT, SATA connectors 1 and 2 DO NOT BOOT. You need to use 3 and 4 by the CPU.
2. When OCing, Ram slots 3 and 4 are unstable, for best results use 1 and 2.
Thats it! Besides that it's about the best S939 board you can get... ;)
Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939 nforce3
Max htt seems to be 270 max regardless of multi and divider.
max vdimm is 2.80v
tracks vtt
max vcore is 1.7v
bad vcore, unstable and fluctuates up to 1.95v under load
coldboot problems with high HTT
crashes when upping the HTT speed too much at a time
9x multi slightly unstable
8x multi very unstable
runs great with bh5
runs great with ch5
runs great with samsung tccc
NO Memory Interleaving?
runs great with samsung tccd
TIP: easy vdimm mod with 3.3v rail = Vdimm Via single wire, VTT tracks automatically
TIP: easy vcore mod with pin10 to ground via 50K VR
BUT the max vcore after a mod is 1.95v and coldboot with 1.85v+ vcore might kill the board!
TIP: If having problems with BH5 ram, try the following:
1) Do 3.3v = Vdimm mod
2) Set HTT multiplier to 4x and HTT to 230Mhz - Lower HTT does not boot for some users.
3) Boot and overclock via clockgen, and tweak via A64tweaker.
TIP: for best performance the giga board needs Vcore and Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster)
This board isn't recommended period.
humm , max htt is about 360 at 3XLDT, 2X seems don't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Vdimm at +0,2 in bios =2,85v
never had problems with 8X or 9x multi :confused:
The only lack with it is the low vcore (for security) for xtremcooling.
Probably the best ram overclocker.
Oh man, I forgot about this thread. I appologize. I had some bad results with this board. maybe it was just defective. It looks like it's a pretty good board. Lithan and misterroadster are doing well with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
MSI Neo2 plat issue...
There is a BIG problem using winchesters and phase change on these boards. Only a few people have got them working, booting, properly and i'm not one of them. It's all over the boards so there's definately and issue there. CMOS reset always provides a boot so there has to be some kind of bios problem there.
You might as well take a hammer to the temp probe on this board it's totally jacked. In bios with prommy it'll only report 40C as the lowest temp then out of nowhere the bios will jump to 156C and the same goes for windows. With MBM i can get either -25, -97 (i wish), 50, 97, 112C, so go figure.
I will be receiving the Neo 2 on Friday. I have the bios file W702SNMS.136. What utility do I use to flash it? Is it included with the mobo?
-=Vran=-
i was able to use winflash. i was worried at first but after not finding anything on the cd that came with the mb and not wanting to use msi's live update i just used winflash and like i said worked perfectly.. good luck man :toast: oh btw whats the key stroke to get into the hidden bios screens? ever since i switched to the 1.37 bios i no longer have firewire and cant even find the option to enable/disable the fire wire in teh bios...
thx perc,
Question: Does the ABIT AV8 need a bios flash to work with .90nm ?
Part of my new system in on the way. Just ordered some Patriot TCCD ram but i have about another week before its time to order mobo and cpu.
AV8 3rd eye mobo for me along with a retail 3200+ win. Be nice if a MAX3 AV8 w/third eye would come out by next week lol.
Seems most forum doods and reviewers are getting the board up to 260 out of the box! Could be a 275FSB board in the right hands :) even 11x260 = 2.86 would be real nice and probably make good use of my cooling setup.!
Just did get a lot of neoprene type pipe insulation /me wonders if a chiller would get the winnie to 11x 270+. :slobber:
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