Nick, my guess is you have a rev 1.04 board like me. The higher Vdimm is only for the rev 1.05 boards.
Guess we are left in the cold here by Asus ! :mad:
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Nick, my guess is you have a rev 1.04 board like me. The higher Vdimm is only for the rev 1.05 boards.
Guess we are left in the cold here by Asus ! :mad:
It is indeed a Rev. 1.04 board, had it the day they came out.
I wasn't aware there was a Rev. 1.05 out yet, had heard no reports of one, or any changes at all.
Oh well, I'm going to get the new DFI S754 when it's out in the next few weeks, so the Asus will be sold then. It's just not up to overclocking, at stock it's great but nothing more.
Nick
Oh nice i didnt even know there was a rev. 1.05 .... but heej the soldering iron can even supply far more vdimm :smileysexQuote:
Originally posted by mouzel
Nick, my guess is you have a rev 1.04 board like me. The higher Vdimm is only for the rev 1.05 boards.
Guess we are left in the cold here by Asus ! :mad:
So who needs asus :)
I just hope the HTT will go higher because i cant get higher than 11x271 (LDT 3X) stable @ 1.74V .....
Can pifast at max 272 but higher is not possible not even with 1.85 Vcore (0.1V increase for 1 HTT :stick: ) and LDT @ 1X/2X
I can run upto 3100 mhz but not program stable .....
SmokeyTheBandit
Damn I have Rev 1.04 as well. What the heck did they change on the PCB in 1.04 -> 1.05?! Oh well, gonna reflash anyway.
Ok, how about some bios modder make the BIOS allow 2.8V VDIMM on K8N-E Deluxe Rev 1.04??
I can't find a REV 1005 on their site. Is it possible they took it down due to people having problems with not getting higher vdimm? It would have been nice for Asus to allow atleast 2.9 volts in the BIOS.
Try here:
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock754/K8N-E_DX/
Or here:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/sock754/K8N-E_DX/
Or top item here for description:
http://usa.asus.com/support/download...K8N-E%20Deluxe
;)
Nick
hopefully asus will not leave ppl with Rev 1.04 out in the cold as far as the higher vdimm for Rev 1.05
Nem...thanks for the links.
Just popped open my case. Rev 1.04 :(
Oh well, I guess I'll just buy an Overclockerz ddr voltage booster.
Let's email them. I mean seriously it's not possible that the 1.04 rev doesn't support 2.8V.
I tried the OCZ DDR Booster and had problems with it. I've nw found out thst you can only use 1 stick of DDR if you are using the Booster.Quote:
Originally posted by freeloader
Nem...thanks for the links.
Just popped open my case. Rev 1.04 :(
Oh well, I guess I'll just buy an Overclockerz ddr voltage booster.
Just so you know.
Nick
I can get mine up to 270-268 on the HTT but i'm i need of some new memory, i read that 3700EB is better then Ballistix pc4000 but the price difference is huge.
Which would you choose :
2x512MB PC4000 Ballistix 290e or so incl shipping
2x512MB PC3700EB OCZ 390e incl shipping
I can't make up my mind about this, i want that 268 1:1 with decent timmings :D
With my current 2x512MB DS BH5 i can only get around 180mhz on the mem or 225 2-2-2-5-1 with a single stick so that's v bad, does any1 want to buy this ? :p:
Wait wait... I don't think anyone really test PC4000 ballistix... I only tried 3200 myself :P I should try... eh?Quote:
Originally posted by Subsequence
I can get mine up to 270-268 on the HTT but i'm i need of some new memory, i read that 3700EB is better then Ballistix pc4000 but the price difference is huge.
Which would you choose :
2x512MB PC4000 Ballistix 290e or so incl shipping
2x512MB PC3700EB OCZ 390e incl shipping
I can't make up my mind about this, i want that 268 1:1 with decent timmings :D
With my current 2x512MB DS BH5 i can only get around 180mhz on the mem or 225 2-2-2-5-1 with a single stick so that's v bad, does any1 want to buy this ? :p:
I had the Ballistix PC4000 - 2x 512Mb sticks.
I got up to 240HTT with 2.7v, using 2.5,3,3,7 timings. But would not got above that speed even if I relaxed the timings.
Nick
how can u supply ur chip with 1.85vcore?? :confused: my bios only allows me 2 go up2 1.75 (bios 1004)Quote:
Originally posted by SmokeyTheBandit
Oh nice i didnt even know there was a rev. 1.05 .... but heej the soldering iron can even supply far more vdimm :smileysex
So who needs asus :)
I just hope the HTT will go higher because i cant get higher than 11x271 (LDT 3X) stable @ 1.74V .....
Can pifast at max 272 but higher is not possible not even with 1.85 Vcore (0.1V increase for 1 HTT :stick: ) and LDT @ 1X/2X
I can run upto 3100 mhz but not program stable .....
shigs
Smokey's been pioneering the volt mods for this board,
So it's not a bios setting, it's a hard mod on the board itself.
Nick
is that 50k resistor set @ 50k then mate?Quote:
Originally posted by jinu117
V core vmod done successfully now. 50k 20 turn is in between the solder pad mentioned above and ground point
shigs
Thought "jinu117" managed to use 2 sticks? be nice to know, thinking of buying one. I can run my ballastix in slot 2 and 3 with no problems atm.Quote:
Originally posted by Nem
I tried the OCZ DDR Booster and had problems with it. I've nw found out thst you can only use 1 stick of DDR if you are using the Booster.
Just so you know.
Nick
Anyone reached close to 300 HTT on this board, with voltmods if need be?
Yeah bit involving but here are the pics.Quote:
Originally Posted by jiff
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As for 300 HTT, I stopped at 290 in fear of corrupting OS :P Was there any volt mod for chipset on this board available? Not that I think I am limited in FSB with that much FSB :P
AnandTech finally has a review of the K8N-E (date of article is 9/14):
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2206
Maybe Asus will read it and do something about the memory voltages. These are quotes from the various sections of the article:
"We were more than a bit surprised, however, to find the uneven range of adjustment options on the K8N-E. Perhaps this is a concession to the K8N-E appearing late in the 754 cycle, but we were particularly dismayed by memory voltage adjustments that top out at 2.7V. This is not even adequate for some of the best-performing memory on the market when you use 2 or more DIMMs at DDR400. Some of the fastest current memory requires 2.8V with 2 DIMMs at DDR400."
"Except for the inadequate memory voltages available, the overclocking controls are OK, if not noteworthy. The CPU voltage is wider than what we see on many competing boards, and the 200 to 300 CPU adjustments are average. Asus did not include any chipset voltage adjustments at all on the K8N-E, a feature that many will miss. Also, the HT range only extends to 4X in large 1X increments - a range to 5X like many competitors with finer 0.5X adjustments would have been useful. It was good to see Asus paying more attention to the FID/VID ratios, where finer 0.5X adjustments will be appreciated by any enthusiast."
"All-in-all, the K8N-E is a really mixed bag, with some adjustments that are exemplary, and others, missing or downright crude. With the attention that Asus has lavished on their VIA-chipset Athlon 64 boards, you have to wonder what they were thinking when designing the K8N-E. As you will see in our benchmark results, this lack of consistent OC controls with broad ranges is really a shame, since the Asus K8N-E is a fast 754 board.at stock speeds."
"The Asus K8N-E is also a surprisingly decent overclocker with 2 DIMMs, but the extremely limited memory voltage range is a serious problem for the Asus. Most of the fastest DDR400 that we have for testing cannot even be set at specification in the Asus, since manufacturers are specifying voltages around 2.8V for the latest Samsung TCCD memory."
One final quote that I fail to understand adequately as I never really thought about hard disk controllers having much to do with OCing a PC:
"The decision by Asus to use Silicon Image SATA instead is really a drawback in overclocking. Whether using the 2 nVidia SATA channels or any of the 4 Sil3114 channels, the highest overclock that we could achieve with our standard SATA drive was 230, much lower than some other nF3-250 boards. When using an IDE drive, the K8N-E fared better, reaching a stable 260 FSB at 1:1 before failing boot. While this is a much better overclock, it is still below the performances of the DFI, MSI, Epox, and Chaintech 754 boards that we have tested."
Anyone have comments about this controller issue?
I'm running 3xHTT@ 290 with the NF3 native SATA. With 4xHTT it barely makes it to 230 FSB. Is 4xHTT and more than 230 FSB possible with PATA ?Quote:
Anyone have comments about this controller issue?
Another issue:
My first Dimm slot is 10 Mhz less stable then when I run RAM in slot 2 or 3. Maybe some of you experienced this also ?
I sent an e-mail to wesley and got respond back on his review. If you noticed the FSB stoppage, he only tested on 1:1 setting. Now... makes you wonder with 2.7v limitation what some memory can do eh? On my setup I go easily to 290FSB. (3x HTT)
His review has some merits such as lack of VDIMM, but the SATA issue IDE issue with OC'ing leaves something interesting to me as I have been running 2 SATA HDD on native channel @ 290FSB ever since I read the review.
230->290... quite a bit of disparity eh?
I have to say I found the same problem with high FSB, over 240 FSB I just get random lockups. I have done Vdimm mod, tryed BH5 and Ballistix but no joy of 240.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinu117
Even tryed both raids Nforce and Silicon, The Ballistix is doing 240 2.5.2.2.11, but anything over it will randomly lockup no matter what timings I use. Shame I havent an IDE driver to try
Doing 299HTT here with scsi and ide and it seems stable so far only my mem needs some tweaking still.
300HTT seems to mess with the gb lan tho.