Called Asus tech support and they looked at the system they had running it and said, you're right it doesn't have agp/pci locks like the manual says. We don't know why we'll call the bios writers and call you back. Haven't heard from them since.
Called Asus tech support and they looked at the system they had running it and said, you're right it doesn't have agp/pci locks like the manual says. We don't know why we'll call the bios writers and call you back. Haven't heard from them since.
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!1Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Called Asus tech support and they looked at the system they had running it and said, you're right it doesn't have agp/pci locks like the manual says. We don't know why we'll call the bios writers and call you back. Haven't heard from them since.
How can they be SOOOOOOOOO amateurish??
C
Well they said it was the first time they had looked at the board.
Anyway, it loaded windows at 220 using bh-5 hyperX and 2.8v. Anything above that and got bios corruptions. Luckily I had the Asus cd in the cdrom and it automatically reloaded the bios. It looks like the cd has bios version 1002. It doesn't have locks either. I'll try the beta bios soon
BTW, it looks like they glued the back plate to the mb. I was going to put it on the LS, but didn't want to try and pry that thing off yet.
Well, same thing with the beta bios. :mad:
I found with my system that I had to bump the processor voltage up slightly for complete prime95 stability at default 200/2400. I've got the rma set up with Newegg so the FX53 will go back tomorrow (one reason I didn't want to order one until I had a board on the way, processor rma's must be within 7 days). I dropped the multiplier down to 11X and tried fsb=215 with complete stability. I'm current just aircooled using the mcx6400-v heatsink and highspeed panaflo fan. Temps are ok for air. I'm back to the FX53/SK8V.
I've got the MSI 6702e(MSI's VIA KT800 Pro SKT939 board), a FX53 and 1GB of Corsair PC3200XL.
The PCI lock definitely works on this board as I have my IOSS Geiger at hand :D
Got the CPU aircooled and a 9800XT watercooled @ 480/414~.
Currently got 26100 in 3DMark2001, which is not bad for me. 26100
Unreal. Kinda scary when you consider this is the world's number one mobo maker. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Called Asus tech support and they looked at the system they had running it and said, you're right it doesn't have agp/pci locks like the manual says. We don't know why we'll call the bios writers and call you back. Haven't heard from them since.
thats asus for ya. at this point im just hope'n that it boots. I'll get a months~ish useage out of it worst case if they dont fix it and get something better when i order my x800xt in august
Well, testing isn't so great with this MSI board....
I had the BIOS 3.0 b10, which was fast, but had no CPU multiplier adjustment, and so overclocking was a dog. I asked MSI for a new BIOS and they sent me 3.0 B18. Now although it's got the CPU multipliers working, performance is lower as the Turbo and Ultra performance modes don't work :(
Overclocking is still a dog too. I know it's not the RAM as I've tried Corsair PC3200LL, Corsair PC3200XL and TwinMOS PC3200 with Winbond BH-5s, ran the FSB and RAM asynch with RAM running slower..... It just seems that as you go over about 230MHz FSB the board/chipset gets very flakey, just loading 3DMark2001 causes Windows to bring up a device error and send my desktop into 16 colour mode :(
PCI lock is definitely working with both BIOS though, I guess that's good. Shame these boards aren't FSB clockers yet :(
I'm just using the stock hsf from a 3200+. Just now checking stablility at stock. Was able to boot into windows and run spi at 215X12 and 200X13 with 1.7v
Yeah, this one here needs about 1.7v for 13x200. Load temps are in the region of 62C~Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
I'm just using the stock hsf from a 3200+. Just now checking stablility at stock. Was able to boot into windows and run spi at 215X12 and 200X13 with 1.7v
Seems about right I'm getting about 52C load at stock using asus probe.
DFI will show 'em all how its done ;)
I hope...
I pushed the plate off from the top side with a screwdriver handle, it came right off, with a little pressure.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Well they said it was the first time they had looked at the board.
Anyway, it loaded windows at 220 using bh-5 hyperX and 2.8v. Anything above that and got bios corruptions.
BTW, it looks like they glued the back plate to the mb. I was going to put it on the LS, but didn't want to try and pry that thing off yet.
I have it running at 225fsb.
Huge performance hit by setting CPU voltage to auto!!
lets see some benchmarks! 225 1:1? how far can you push with a divider? im interested to see what kind of performance diffrence there is runn'n 275x9 5/4 vs 225x11 1:1.Quote:
Originally posted by Rukee
I pushed the plate off from the top side with a screwdriver handle, it came right off, with a little pressure.
I have it running at 225fsb.
Huge performance hit by setting CPU voltage to auto!!
also does the the supplied monitoring software give vdimm measurements?(if not mbm5 should as core 2 if the chip reads vdimm) If so does it overvolt on the vdimm? my khx3200/512 sticks are only good for about 220~225 at 2.8vdimm on my nf7-s. I guess i'll actualy have to try ras-to-cas 3 to see how far they go when the board gets here as 220fsb just isnt enough:p:
I don`t know how far it`ll go with a divider...I`m just trying to figure out the BIOS settings as all I`ve seen for the past year and ahalf has been a NF7-S.
Whipped these out quick for ya..
http://www.justwebit.com/sites1/42124/226.jpg
at 228fsb..
http://www.justwebit.com/sites1/42124/228fsb.jpg
*EDIT* the pics were way too large...changed to links
Just read the past two days of this thread and found it very depressing. My motherboard and memory was trashed by a bad power supply (long story) and I am literally using a borrowed pc to type this.
I was just getting ready to pull the trigger on purchasing an A8V pending your results and this isnt looking good. Given the fact that I have an urgent need for the board and processor right now, if the A8V isnt the answer, then I'm in real trouble. There isnt anything else out there to buy.
JC
very nice. memory bandwidth looks tasty. that 73xx 3dmark03 run with a stock 9800xt:confused:? Took 440/400 and 2.67ghz 231fsb to get close enough to 72xx to smell it with a barton. Tomarrow, i cant wait for tomarrow.
btw is that with the factory cooler? what kinda temps?
john clark, i wouldnt buy a asus board if i had to have a computer running even if it wassnt brand new and basicly untested tech. Drivers are aparently a little buggy, aparently no locks and a memeber over at my native futuremark server allready recieved a DOA(could be chip or board but). Honestly the only reason i ordered mine now is that my nf7-s 2.0 recently died so my benchmarking rig was reduced to a crapstick DFI nf2 infinity.
Your chip still working?, if you can test it? If so i would pick up a gig of corsair XL a new board for your old platform and a antec truepower 550 given the fact that you need this PC to work and now, you got prime memory/power for a64 later. That gives you what should be very capable ram(expecialy for a64's now that they all seem to be 2.8vdimm) that should do close to ddr500 at 2.8v, a quality PS(i love mine) and your good to go. Give the trigger finger a rest for a month or two untill prices drop or amd comes out with more budget oriented s939chips. I think them not bringing out a s939 3300 at $300 bucks was a stupid move. But thats if i were in your shoes, and its about $600 bones to be basicly where you were before+around $700 more when you do pick up a64 if something doesnt change with the price structure.
Ok, well all doesn't seem lost. Put in on the LS and lowered the LDT to 3x and set it to 2t enabled and was able to boot into windows at 233 x 12.5. This was on an unmodded board at 1.8v vcore and 2.8v on the ram. Timmings were 2225/7/16. pc3500 lvl2 dual channel. Ran spi for 30s at this setting. So things are looking up. Time maybe for some mods.
Your memory bandwidth is REALLY low!!! I've been getting in the 6500~6800 regions at 220MHz FSB or so.Quote:
Originally posted by Rukee
I don`t know how far it`ll go with a divider...I`m just trying to figure out the BIOS settings as all I`ve seen for the past year and ahalf has been a NF7-S.
Whipped these out quick for ya..
http://www.justwebit.com/sites1/42124/226.jpg
at 228fsb..
http://www.justwebit.com/sites1/42124/228fsb.jpg
*EDIT* the pics were way too large...changed to links
Yeh, enabling 2T or setting it to auto kills the memory bandwidth.Quote:
Originally posted by Walrusbonzo
Your memory bandwidth is REALLY low!!! I've been getting in the 6500~6800 regions at 220MHz FSB or so.
Looks like 2t cost about 1200 in buffered sandra and 1 sec in spi. About 5600 vs 6800 at 233
Yeah, I had a play too.... enabling a command rate of 2t knocks about 10% of bandwidth efficiency :( And didn't help me get higher stable FSB. I'm almost certain either the board or this VIA chipset is crap.
Well, I'm a little happier atm. I need to find out how to do the vcore and vdimm mod and see if I can get something better going. Looks like lowering the LDT kept me from getting bios corruptions. Don't know why I didn't think about that sooner, must have been too excited.
I decided to wander on back to XS and get in on the fun:
http://home.comcast.net/~mdzcpa/a8v.JPG
It might be tough to make out, so:
Asus A8V (awesome board indeed)
FX 53
X800 Pro (already modded to 16 pipes and under the TEC:) )
1 Gig of Corsair XL 2.0-2-2-5
It's all up and running and under the Mach II.
The memory does at least up to 215 at 2.0-2-2-5 1T...haven't tried for more yet.
Hafta work now....benches tonight.