I feel happy with all the new 'XT @ Pro owners'! :)
But the shown OC scores @ stock do not impress me very much.
Could really be some rejected XTs due to low clockperformance. :(
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I feel happy with all the new 'XT @ Pro owners'! :)
But the shown OC scores @ stock do not impress me very much.
Could really be some rejected XTs due to low clockperformance. :(
Dude...that is ridiculously good luck...I'm jealous. Mine should be here Monday!!!Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
I was very happy when my RMAed 9700 Pro was replaced with a Sapphire 9800Pro and now I discover that it's really a 9800XT! How's that for a free upgrade?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
390's the highest anyones gotten so far?
How about with some really good RAM sinks?
I would like to see 400 on air without mods.
I might get one too. Sold my 9700pro. Was going to get a 9800pro 128mb but maybe I'll wait a little longer and see how these things clock.Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
If its gonna clock better than a $225 Pro then I will grab one.
LOL...isn't it though? I never thought to look at it too closely until this thread and I haven't flashed it yet. I was happy enough when they asked me if I would accept the 9800 for the 9700 as they were out of stock. :D The 9800 had come down in price to about what I paid for the 9700 when it was new and there was only a week left on my warranty when it died!Quote:
Originally posted by Hollywood
Dude...that is ridiculously good luck...I'm jealous. Mine should be here Monday!!!
Very interesting thread,
It will probably take a while be4 these filter down to us guys in Europe. Im shouldnt be complaining i just bought a PowerColor 9800 non-pro, came with Samy 8E chips @ 3.3ns.
Currently unmodded the card runs 440/400 24/7
:)
Have got 3dmark03 score run at 470/410 with some artifecting. But the real reason im quite happy is because of the cards default voltages. I took a look yesterday and the core is running at the default 1.7 volts (well actually a little bit less) and the mem is undervolted to 2.7volts (default is abt 2.9v) so I think their is alot of room for improvement with some voltage mods.
Oh sommet i forgot to say, be4 I flashed the bios the mem was crapping out at 365mhz not anymore ;)
To TheDude, you lucky biatch :) Christmas has come way too early for you.
mong is out
You mean when it "died". ;)Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
The 9800 had come down in price to about what I paid for the 9700 when it was new and there was only a week left on my warranty when it died!
No it really did die....I didn't murder it. All of a sudden it got vertical lines thru it. I took it off and inspected it for condensation and cleaned it real good, but never did figure out what happened to it. A week later and I would have been S.O.L.Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
You mean when it "died". ;)
erm, you know. the first guy to report one of these was a frenchman. i'm from germany, guess that makes me a european. well what i'm trying to state is that these thingies are available in europe already.Quote:
Originally posted by mongoled
Very interesting thread,
It will probably take a while be4 these filter down to us guys in Europe. Im shouldnt be complaining i just bought a PowerColor 9800 non-pro, came with Samy 8E chips @ 3.3ns.
k. so i measured my vgpu a mom ago.. defaults to 1.778v with the xt-bios. when running it at xt-clocks, the voltage went down to as low as 1.711 - quite some drop. is this a normal thing for these cards or should i grab some wires and mod it.
also.. with the xt-bios flashed, using cat 4.2 i got artifacts at default 9800pro speeds with that darn atitool - no probs whatsoever with cat 3.9. funny thing is my clocks seemed to be higher with the 9800 pro bios, duh. ;)
dunno.. atm i'm throwing around the idea of either return it and get another (based on the artifacts based on cat 4.2 at def.pro) or just grab some wires and vmod it :D.
tomorrow i've to braze some fittings to my radiator and do some wooden holddowns for the waterblocks (doh makeshift yet again).
that'll be the last test before i decide.
dude, i'd like to be that lucky just once.. maybe i should hold onto this card, make do with it - as it's a fine pro :) and rma it once the r420 is out when they stop building the 9800 pro like what happened with the 9700 pro and got you the 9800p ehehe
I just picked up one of these today, flashed the bios and all is well. I'll mod it and then see what it does at -80c.
-Ron
Thanxs for the wake up call Sky
:)
Havnt seen any abt here in the UK, its just that Ive got so used to things showing up in the US first that I didnt even think for a second that they would be here in europe.
God damn so maybe they are here in the UK also?
Anyways as I said im happy with my card. Good luck to those getting these, tis a nice deal
This is good news for those that don't do vmods. That is a tad higher than the 9800 Pro default voltage.Quote:
Originally posted by sky
k. so i measured my vgpu a mom ago.. defaults to 1.778v with the xt-bios. when running it at xt-clocks, the voltage went down to as low as 1.711 - quite some drop. is this a normal thing for these cards or should i grab some wires and mod it.
also.. with the xt-bios flashed, using cat 4.2 i got artifacts at default 9800pro speeds with that darn atitool - no probs whatsoever with cat 3.9. funny thing is my clocks seemed to be higher with the 9800 pro bios, duh. ;)
However, the artifacting with CAT 4.2 is NOT a good thing. :(
I have cash right now and want to place the order for the card, but its a toss up between $320 for this or $220 for a Pro that may do the exact same thing (though with 128mb less).
Looks like the price just dropped
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-290&depa=0
Decisions, decisions...
I seem to be having a problem with my card.
I installed it tonight and everything was going smoothly. Watercooling was giving me temps of around 50C. The card also increased my idle temps by 2C over my 9700 Pro! I flashed to the XT BIOS with no problems and booted into windows after a CMOS flash, and began to start benching. At default XT BIOS speeds, about halfway through 3DMark2K1SE, my monitor went blank like it had lost the video signal.....grrr
To make a long and frustrating story short...using either the XT or stock BIOS and no matter what clock speeds I run (even tried underclocking :rolleyes: ) , my monitor always goes blank and acts like the system is turned off. I just don't know what to do, and am on the verge of RMAing this sucka.
What do you guys think?
thats bad news! :( I'm on the verge of ordering me up one of these bad boys.
For those of you who bought this card, whats the verdict? If you had the choice to do it again whould you still buy the card?
I have seen them somewhere...they cost the same as an XT so theres no point getting one when a raddy 9800 pro costs just £170 new nowadays :eek: :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by mongoled
Thanxs for the wake up call Sky
:)
Havnt seen any abt here in the UK, its just that Ive got so used to things showing up in the US first that I didnt even think for a second that they would be here in europe.
God damn so maybe they are here in the UK also?
Anyways as I said im happy with my card. Good luck to those getting these, tis a nice deal
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-290&depa=0
there is the mislabled card at new egg for 312. A raddy 9800 pro costs about $230. Is it worth the 80 extra bucks?
neyoung, my 3dmark score has risen by two thousand points and Desert Combat is running flawlessly @ 1600x1200 2xAA 4xAS. I would definately do it again. Once the r420's ship, if the price drops down on these 9800 256 Sapphires, I might buy another one for my other system.
no ramsinks :oQuote:
Originally posted by Semper Fi
Damn Bob, you got some good clocks outta that thing! Did you throw ram sinks on there already?
Im about to sink this fahker up in a few minutes, hopefully Ill be able to hit 390 on the mem.
it was a nice 49f in my room and it might of been the 92mm fan directly infront of my hsf blowing onto the card ;)
i took off the shiny metal plate so the airflow would work better
the core idled @ 48c
but i did some some artifacts :(
gl semper with your 390 goal
the card rocks, it made 1600x1200 a usable option
hey bob, what cats have you been running? tried changing them? for me 3.9 did best so far, but then again i can't find my 3.6ers as they used to be the cat of choice for my 96tx.
oh hey, could all those pro-xt users post what cats worked best and what gave the most artifacting and temps and all that? thanks.
so far artifacting is really only a prob with mother nature in '03. i can run '01 at 412/365 for as long as i want.. no fuss. aquamark, well i've to keep it around 412 core to pass through without artifacting. '03.. hm 408 max i'd say when the system has run other tests previously. a cold boot after some 30mins of being of might work aswell. after a number of '01 loops i checked the temps again, 49°C going down to 39°C idle in like 4-5 mins (using cat 3.9).
brwmogazos, that's strange. you've seen the prices i posted some pages back? i'd think it's funny that you can't or only at a mucho high prices get these cards in the uk. rest of europe has them available for around 300 euros, while a 'real' xt is like 380-480 (if you chose to go for hercules). you might want to have a look across the channel.. geizhals.at/deutschland has a listing of these cards starting ~286 euros. and it's already on the front page :).
and yes, i'd do it again aswell (might have to anyway). though mine seems to turn out a little bummerish with her default cooling, i'll give it another go. oh and i spent some time looking into the xt-vmods last night. damn this one seems almost easy compared to the my old 96tx where you had to solder to the legs of various ics with plenty of stuff around to make it even harder. with the xt it's 'only' resistors that have a bigger area than those freaking ic-legs :) and all those resistors are easily accessible.
Tha ATItool craps out with my 9600PRO and CAt4.2 at deffault so there must be a problem with the 4.2 cats...The funny thing is that I can run GPU@500+ without any artifacts that I can see but ATItool reports that its artifacting @400...
Just ordered 2 of them. I hope they live up to the hype!!
I hope this is correct and its just the CAT 4.2's. I'm making a decision and buying on monday, either this or a $225 Pro.Quote:
Originally posted by hatemi
Tha ATItool craps out with my 9600PRO and CAt4.2 at deffault so there must be a problem with the 4.2 cats...The funny thing is that I can run GPU@500+ without any artifacts that I can see but ATItool reports that its artifacting @400...
Then again I haven't heard this mentioned before, only with these cards.
Well, I can't seem to fix this blank screen problem I keep getting while running 3D apps. I guess I'm just going to RMA since nobody else knows whats up either. What a shame, such a nice card...ran UT2K4 VERY smoothly for about 20 seconds. Then it would just take a dump and go to sleep.
Is it getting too hot?