GTX 480 and GTX 470 Reviews

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03-26-2010, 06:19 PM
jaredpace

http://www.hwupgrade.it/articoli/skv...nte_index.html
03-26-2010, 06:20 PM
Chickenfeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanzabar

im not sure that its indisputably faster

Perhaps to say it is indisputably faster is a bit of a stretch but it is faster more often than not none the less, which for most would be enough if they can look past the obvious cons.

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

its funny how nearly all benchmarks in different websites show differing results..........

especially in BC 2 and Dirt2, MOST especially in BC2... at one site 480 is significantly faster, at others they are equal, at others 5870 leads by a good margin. just look at all the reviews and tell me that they add up.

Differences in system config ( cpu, motherboard, ram, hard drive ), software ( drivers, windows used / optimization level ) make it very easy to show these differences. Since BC2 has no benchmark utility, its understandable that results will vary ( ie did they use a realistic server load, did they use a single player map, did they use an empty multipayer game ect ) Most sites don't specify how and where they benched a game. Obviously with ingame benchs, youd expect results to be somewhat consistent but the afforementioned varriables can still sway the balance none the less. Thats why its best to consult as many reviews as possible to get a balanced opinion overall.
03-26-2010, 06:22 PM
mindfury

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

its funny how nearly all benchmarks in different websites show differing results..........

especially in BC 2 and Dirt2, MOST especially in BC2... at one site 480 is significantly faster, at others they are equal, at others 5870 leads by a good margin. just look at all the reviews and tell me that they add up.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...-480-review/21

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Now, for Dirt 2 we unfortunately had to ditch all results we had made in the past and I thing there will be a number of websites out there that made this istake. The previous time demo test was based on the DX11 demo of the game. The demo code however will only work at DX9 for the GeForce GTX 400.
03-26-2010, 06:23 PM
annihilat0r

yeah, that with Dirt 2, but what about BC2 ?
03-26-2010, 06:23 PM
onethreehill

EVGA GTX 480/470 Hydro Copper FTW

http://www.evga.com/products/images/...89-AR_MD_1.jpg http://www.evga.com/products/images/...79-AR_MD_1.jpg
http://www.evga.com/articles/00539/
03-26-2010, 06:27 PM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindfury

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...-480-review/21

Wait, so Charlie was right about the DiRT2 demo? /shocked

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

its funny how nearly all benchmarks in different websites show differing results..........

especially in BC 2 and Dirt2, MOST especially in BC2... at one site 480 is significantly faster, at others they are equal, at others 5870 leads by a good margin. just look at all the reviews and tell me that they add up.

Like I said, I don't think I've ever quite seen a card release that had such ridiculous performance deltas between different games, but within games themselves!

I knew the card was contentious/controversial, but it looks like all the blood is being spilled now
03-26-2010, 06:28 PM
zanzabar

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

yeah, that with Dirt 2, but what about BC2 ?

BC2 has the same thing u have to force it, harware canuks would be the most reliable IMO since they go through all of the configs and set them up properly even if they dont ship that way (like ut3 games) but they did not test dirt2 right as the 5870 should edge it out.
03-26-2010, 06:28 PM
Chickenfeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

EVGA GTX 480/470 Hydro Copper FTW

http://www.evga.com/products/images/...89-AR_MD_1.jpg http://www.evga.com/products/images/...79-AR_MD_1.jpg
http://www.evga.com/articles/00539/

750/1500/3800 on the Hydro FTW. With that in mind I wouldn't expect any OC models to come with insane clocks, as the past would dictate that the Hydro models always had the highest clock in their line. I have a feeling vendors will be conservative to keep potential RMAs down, at least until a non reference card / cooling solution is possible ( which might not be any time soon )
03-26-2010, 06:44 PM
Loque

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

Wait, so Charlie was right about the DiRT2 demo? /shocked

Like I said, I don't think I've ever quite seen a card release that had such ridiculous performance deltas between different games, but within games themselves!

I knew the card was contentious/controversial, but it looks like all the blood is being spilled now

maybe the 480 was thermal throttling during some benchmarks :p:
03-26-2010, 06:46 PM
Mechromancer

I want a GTX480 for Folding@Home like NAOW! Unfortunately my room will get too damn hot and my power bill will shoot up way too high. I think it is prudent to wait this out a little to see a refresh from Nvidia, AMD's next gen GPU due out, and Stanford's OpenCL F@H client.

We also better see a mother :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing price drop on 5870s RIGHT NOW!
03-26-2010, 06:48 PM
MrMojoZ

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Originally Posted by Mechromancer

We also better see a mother :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing price drop on 5870s RIGHT NOW!

Uh, why? Ati's cards are doing nicely at their current price points.
03-26-2010, 06:51 PM
annihilat0r

Yep. They would be doing more nicely with a price drop, though :D
03-26-2010, 06:53 PM
trinibwoy

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Originally Posted by Chickenfeed

So after reading a good dozen or so reviews I think I have a decent summary.

GTX480
+Price / Performance level very near 5870
+Price is fair in regards to price based on the available alternatives (again point 1)

Yep, they'll sell at those prices. It's funny that after months of hype and trash talking in the end we just got two decent cards with good performance, reasonable prices and high power consumption. Now where are those ATi refresh rumours? :)
03-26-2010, 06:56 PM
lkiller123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mechromancer

I want a GTX480 for Folding@Home like NAOW! Unfortunately my room will get too damn hot and my power bill will shoot up way too high. I think it is prudent to wait this out a little to see a refresh from Nvidia, AMD's next gen GPU due out, and Stanford's OpenCL F@H client.

We also better see a mother :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing price drop on 5870s RIGHT NOW!

I'd rather get a bunch of 9800GX2s for around ~$120 each on eBay for folding, the heat and power of the GTX480 is just not worth the money.

However, I am more interested into GTX470's numbers.:up:
03-26-2010, 06:56 PM
Mechromancer

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Yep. They would be doing more nicely with a price drop, though :D

Damn right!

Also I took another look at GTX480's price. I don't think I'll have one of those in my system for a while. This feels like when G80 came out it was fast as hell but way too power hungry and priced into the stratosphere. The refresh was just what the doctor ordered though.

EDIT: The 5970 coming down to $599 would be very nice :).
03-26-2010, 07:02 PM
cowie

the way it looks from the tpu review we have a new x1 core contender for 3d03 :D
03-26-2010, 07:06 PM
Chickenfeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mechromancer

This feels like when G80 came out it was fast as hell but way too power hungry and priced into the stratosphere.

Minus being awesome :rofl: Can't neglect the fact that the G80 came out with no competition and absolutely owned the previous generations.

I still fondly remember my 8800GTX. It was the first Nvidia card I bought right at launch and it impressed me then and still would now all considered.
03-26-2010, 07:11 PM
Sushi Warrior

Guru3D says the card is 43dBa full load... they can't hear it over the rest of their PC. Not sure what Kyle is doing different.

And the GTX470 is 20% better than a 5850 at 16x10 and 19x10 with 4xAA (as per the HWC review, and they tested with 10.3). It costs more ($50) but you get better FPS/$ but just worse FPS/watt.

So it is not a true "green" card :P
03-26-2010, 07:16 PM
LightSpeed

The power consumption really is HOLY :banana::banana::banana::banana:. Honestly, im impressed. Furthermore, ATI cards seem to have lower in game power consumption, and much greater in Furmark. Fermi's power consumption doesnt differ much in game and in furmark though. And really, a single GPU card to consume more power than a dual GPU card is astounding. For less performance

Wow
03-26-2010, 07:17 PM
cegras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi Warrior

Guru3D says the card is 43dBa full load... they can't hear it over the rest of their PC. Not sure what Kyle is doing different.

And the GTX470 is 20% better than a 5850 at 16x10 and 19x10 with 4xAA (as per the HWC review, and they tested with 10.3). It costs more ($50) but you get better FPS/$ but just worse FPS/watt.

So it is not a true "green" card :P

You mean, not sure what Guru3D is doing. The video at HardOCP doesn't lie: it's loud.

Legitreviews measures 90C idle and 70 dB on an open test bench. You're all in bad luck if you're buying this card and are remotely close to the equator.
03-26-2010, 07:22 PM
Perica_Barii

Our small contribution with review of gtx480

http://www.hwgurus.com/forum/showthr...id=3#post14555
03-26-2010, 07:24 PM
JumpingJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi Warrior

Guru3D says the card is 43dBa full load... they can't hear it over the rest of their PC. Not sure what Kyle is doing different.

And the GTX470 is 20% better than a 5850 at 16x10 and 19x10 with 4xAA (as per the HWC review, and they tested with 10.3). It costs more ($50) but you get better FPS/$ but just worse FPS/watt.

So it is not a true "green" card :P

Sound measurement is as much an art as it is a science, so much depends on how you take the measurement, what distance, and in what external/internal environment.

As such, it is probably a good idea to look up a Guru3D review of a card you have and use that to level yourself against their scale/technique.

For example, I have a 295 GTX, and a crude sound meter (it's in one of my DVMs), it peaks at 68 dB at 12 inches from the back of my case (a CM ATSC 840), with a baseline background of about 45 dB.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-g...iew-engtx295/5

This does not make him wrong, it just means he measures differently or is in a different environment.

I also have a 4870 X2, in a TT Armor, at load it measures about 58 or so dB (it is much quieter than my 295 but still noticable when loaded)...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/his-ra...048mb-review/5

He again gets 43 dB...

At 250W TDP, GPU temps of 95 C ... it is unreasonable to think this card is not going to be loud as it will definitely need to push a large volume of air.
03-26-2010, 07:29 PM
zerazax

The TomsHardware article also quotes it as being very loud

I think Guru3D's is the anomaly on the noise part
03-26-2010, 07:33 PM
Xoulz

I've been reading for 5 hours non-stop & I need a breather to let everything sink in... but how is it that we can have 20 reviews of Bad Company 2 and have such varied results?

I game @ 1920 x 1200.. I had thought Fermi would tear Battlefield up, it doesn't... now I am pissed for waiting 6 months!
03-26-2010, 07:35 PM
annihilat0r

Quote:

Originally Posted by cegras

remotely close

http://i40.tinypic.com/ngtzdf.jpg

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