The Fermi Thread - Part 3

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03-16-2010, 03:10 PM
onethreehill

AMD Is Getting Ready For GF100 - AMD's ATI 10.3a Catalyst Driver Update will be available to download on March 17th from undgerground.amd.com
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/..._driver_update
03-16-2010, 03:33 PM
cowie

not for nothing but i'v see both sides rave about their new up coming drivers with fancy slides,then so so results on your pc.
it would be nice if ati let you make you own game profiles thuo..
03-16-2010, 03:49 PM
NaMcO

ATI Tray Tools lets you do that and so much more that i gave up completely on CCC. I only install the driver and let ATT do the rest :up:
03-16-2010, 04:10 PM
Your_Boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

550mm2, 448SP with 600MHz core. Let's wait and find out how many of those were correct.

On an unrelated note, I found out that I had 141 posts in the Fermi Part 2 thread. :eek:

And 2 with any substance. :ROTF:

i kid:up:
03-16-2010, 04:26 PM
Natalia

Does anyone know if the multiple monitor issue with SLi will persist with the Fermi generation?

By that I mean, currently, when SLi is enabled, you only get 2 displays, and one must be via HDMI, thus is is limited to 1920x1200.

It seems that ATI is ahead of the game here, as I've been told that with Crossfire, you could have 3 displays, two of which are 2560x1600 and one that is 1920x1200.

Granted, you only get top performance on one, which is all I care about, but having 3 displays is making ATI seem more appealing (strange for me to say that after having NVIDIA cards for the last 10 years).

Any rumors on this changing with Fermi?
03-16-2010, 04:31 PM
DAK1640

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natalia

Does anyone know if the multiple monitor issue with SLi will persist with the Fermi generation?

By that I mean, currently, when SLi is enabled, you only get 2 displays, and one must be via HDMI, thus is is limited to 1920x1200.

It seems that ATI is ahead of the game here, as I've been told that with Crossfire, you could have 3 displays, two of which are 2560x1600 and one that is 1920x1200.

Granted, you only get top performance on one, which is all I care about, but having 3 displays is making ATI seem more appealing (strange for me to say that after having NVIDIA cards for the last 10 years).

Any rumors on this changing with Fermi?

Goosey don't like invisible ink...
03-16-2010, 05:01 PM
Amorphous

I think GTX 400 series will bring NVIDIA's Surround gaming feature, which may have a big impact on how display resolutions work in SLI.

Amorphous

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natalia

Does anyone know if the multiple monitor issue with SLi will persist with the Fermi generation?

By that I mean, currently, when SLi is enabled, you only get 2 displays, and one must be via HDMI, thus is is limited to 1920x1200.

It seems that ATI is ahead of the game here, as I've been told that with Crossfire, you could have 3 displays, two of which are 2560x1600 and one that is 1920x1200.

Granted, you only get top performance on one, which is all I care about, but having 3 displays is making ATI seem more appealing (strange for me to say that after having NVIDIA cards for the last 10 years).

Any rumors on this changing with Fermi?
03-16-2010, 05:59 PM
STEvil

HDMI is limited to 1920x1080? I thought it topped out at 1920x1080/120hz or 2560x1600/60hz?
03-16-2010, 06:22 PM
spursindonesia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vardant

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/...-and-unfixable

Bravo :rolleyes:

See this post :

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

charlie knew that the die is 23.x * 23.x and 104 dies per wafer. he never gave a specific measurement afaik. that could be anywhere from 530mm2 to 570mm2.

This is what i've remembered as well, not only from his article, but also from his post in his forum. I don't give a fvck about the exact number, but he's more correct in his diesize info than many nVidia's fanbois and worshippers who sweared on November release & 470 mm^2 or less diesize since last summer. :rolleyes:
03-16-2010, 07:13 PM
ElSel10

Quote:

Originally Posted by spursindonesia

but he's more correct in his diesize info than many nVidia's fanbois and worshippers who sweared on November release & 470 mm^2 or less diesize since last summer. :rolleyes:

I don't think anybody ever thought it would be below 470mm^2. It was always thought to be between the GT200 and GT200b.
03-16-2010, 07:14 PM
Natalia

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

HDMI is limited to 1920x1080? I thought it topped out at 1920x1080/120hz or 2560x1600/60hz?

Limited to 1920x1200 last I checked
03-16-2010, 07:25 PM
InCredible

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natalia

Limited to 1920x1200 last I checked

ati xfire with 5 series u can do 3x2560x1600 and top performance on all screens ;) one has to be DP(display port)..dp sounded bad..haha
03-16-2010, 07:37 PM
mk-ultra

by the time those cards gets out, i think there will be a fermi part 10 thread here :D
03-16-2010, 07:44 PM
spursindonesia

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElSel10

I don't think anybody ever thought it would be below 470mm^2. It was always thought to be between the GT200 and GT200b.

I've followed & read enough forum posts here & in B3D forum, that early on, many speculating, suggesting, even insisting, that GF 100 or whatever it was called/rumored back then, will be smaller than GT 200b, beating ATi in transistor density in this node round.

I'm not Charlie's total believer, i find it hard to believe his 5% GTX 480 advantage over HD 5870, and his GTX operating temperature revelation is also suspicious, but atleast in this matter, he has been very consistent for a long time, and proven right in the end, end of story.
03-16-2010, 07:44 PM
hollo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk

Thanks to jaredpace
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...19&postcount=2

fermi is smoother!!! :confused: :rolleyes: :D
03-16-2010, 08:29 PM
Natalia

Quote:

Originally Posted by InCredible

...one has to be display port...

What do you mean by that?
03-16-2010, 08:38 PM
570091D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natalia

What do you mean by that?

http://www.everyjoe.com/thegadgetblo...-5870-Card.jpg

i don't think one has to be dp, i believe you can use the two dvi connectors independantly. also, gf100 cards will support up to 3 monitors in SLI mode, even when using 3d vision.
03-16-2010, 08:55 PM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by 570091D

http://www.everyjoe.com/thegadgetblo...-5870-Card.jpg

i don't think one has to be dp, i believe you can use the two dvi connectors independantly. also, gf100 cards will support up to 3 monitors in SLI mode, even when using 3d vision.

You do have to use one as display-port for eyefinity or 3 monitors, as one of the DVI's is shared with the HDMI on a 5870.
03-16-2010, 09:12 PM
dengyong

Will this thread be mostly ATI again ? WTF, Did anyone read the first post ?

Quote:

The Rules:
- This thread is about Fermi and things related to it only
- Do you know something about Fermi that isn't here? Post it!
- Don't play with the tags. We can track those and depend on proper tagging for search engine traffic.
- Play nice or you'll get the hammer
03-16-2010, 10:26 PM
railer

^^^this . :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

AMD Is Getting Ready For GF100 - AMD's ATI 10.3a Catalyst Driver Update will be available to download on March 17th from undgerground.amd.com
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/..._driver_update
03-16-2010, 10:47 PM
Jamesrt2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natalia

Limited to 1920x1200 last I checked

ok so....

1.3 depends on how much colour its producing it has a theoretical max of 2560×1600p75 but thats at 24bit/px and goes down to 1920×1200p60 48bit/px

so it should technically be fine hardware wise so it's a driver thing :)
03-16-2010, 10:51 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by highoctane

EDIT: I think this is what I think it is....

Nekked:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8346/11484455.jpg

N10E-GLM is GT215 according to neliz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spursindonesia

This is what i've remembered as well, not only from his article, but also from his post in his forum. I don't give a fvck about the exact number, but he's more correct in his diesize info than many nVidia's fanbois and worshippers who sweared on November release & 470 mm^2 or less diesize since last summer. :rolleyes:

Exactly, I heard that GF100, we were actually calling it G300/GT300, was about G200 size and this was back in August.
03-16-2010, 11:04 PM
Coldon

well i'm going to buy a 480 when they get released for a few reasons:

1) i need a card with around the power of a 5870 (480 by all accounts will be slightly better)
2) i need DX11 for work (dont really care whether I got ATI/nvidia on this one) (I'm a computer graphics lecturer at a university)
3) i run two 1920x1200 screens and ATI **STILL** hasn't sorted out the flickering issue on the second screen! That's completely unacceptable close to 4 months after launch! They may have eyefinity but when the card is in low power mode (ie most of the time) it cant run two screens (my damn 8400gs in my work machine can but obviously its too complicated for the 5870)! I had ordered a 5870 then i read about the issue and cancelled my order and am still waiting for it to be sorted out...

If the 480 launches in the $450~$500 price range I will buy one as there is no other choice, simple as that.
03-16-2010, 11:55 PM
SirKronan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coldon

well i'm going to buy a 480 when they get released for a few reasons:

1) i need a card with around the power of a 5870 (480 by all accounts will be slightly better)
2) i need DX11 for work (dont really care whether I got ATI/nvidia on this one) (I'm a computer graphics lecturer at a university)
3) i run two 1920x1200 screens and ATI **STILL** hasn't sorted out the flickering issue on the second screen! That's completely unacceptable close to 4 months after launch! They may have eyefinity but when the card is in low power mode (ie most of the time) it cant run two screens (my damn 8400gs in my work machine can but obviously its too complicated for the 5870)! I had ordered a 5870 then i read about the issue and cancelled my order and am still waiting for it to be sorted out...

If the 480 launches in the $450~$500 price range I will buy one as there is no other choice, simple as that.

No way it will launch with that price. Even if it's MSRP, I expect artificial reseller markups to compensate for any reasonable prices on these new cards.

I can say that I almost understand it, though. These are expensive beasts to make, and with yields as they are, nVidia's going to have to strike a delicate balance between selling the most cards possible, and making the most per card possible. I think they're in a risky spot right now. If they don't sell as well as ATI's current offerings, I worry about how much room they actually have to drop and compete. ATI should have more room to compete, especially if their yields start to improve.

All I can say is, for $500 it had better kick the 295's butt. I'm not anti-multi GPU like some are. I'm "pro best performance for your dollar." I know that multi-GPU setups have adversaries out there that would pay a good deal extra to get 295 performance without the dual GPU. I know some have had issues. Heck, it took me FOUR GTX 295's to finally get one that works!! But boy does it work good. That's why you just buy from someone with good service and a good warranty!! :D
03-17-2010, 12:52 AM
annihilat0r

Quote:

Originally Posted by Your_Boss

And 2 with any substance. :ROTF:

i kid:up:

hey, 2 out of 141 was pretty much above average for that thread. :D

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