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06-16-2009, 03:12 PM
ownage

Wasn't OPB the guy that lives off Noodles so he can spend every dime he has on hardware?
06-16-2009, 07:46 PM
mrcape

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Originally Posted by Movieman

To simplify this, in this case it is simple;
When you run Aquamark3 your score is 1000 times your average FPS..
His were not..Please go and look at the images on HWBots page and you'll see what I mean.
This is pretty black and white and thats why they took the action they did.

My bad, just happened to read this and it was hard to believe.
06-16-2009, 07:48 PM
roofsniper

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Originally Posted by ahmad

http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000...8072.strip.gif

whats up with dilbert and all the Somalian pirates stuff lately? just in the paper today they had another comic on that.
06-16-2009, 08:15 PM
ahmad

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Originally Posted by roofsniper

whats up with dilbert and all the Somalian pirates stuff lately? just in the paper today they had another comic on that.

Well it seems like scotty gets hung up on ideas sometimes.

I also think that he produces several when he has inspiration, and then posts them in installments. Just like his topper series.
06-16-2009, 09:18 PM
gumballguy

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Originally Posted by BrokenWall

Trust me, run a VNC server on your bench machine and then watch it remotely. I promise you it will nail your score, because your CPU is busy compressing and sending that screen data to an remote guest. if you do it over the internet its even worse. plus VNC does not do video at all. play a stupid flash game remotely with VNC and you might as well have someone email you screenshots every 30 seconds.

I believe it's fast from windows to windows machines as they have proprietry code that MS wont let anyone know the details of. This limitation to windows of course probably wouldn't sit well ;)
06-16-2009, 09:50 PM
STEvil

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Originally Posted by gumballguy

I believe it's fast from windows to windows machines as they have proprietry code that MS wont let anyone know the details of. This limitation to windows of course probably wouldn't sit well ;)

Then you believe wrong.
06-16-2009, 11:53 PM
MACMAC

All the wrongs have just been righted, so I think the community can move forward now.
06-17-2009, 12:32 AM
mike

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Originally Posted by MACMAC

All the wrongs have just been righted, so I think the community can move forward now.

100% agree. Everything has gone smoothly so far, and I am glad to see that the members at Team OCXtreme are still keep pushing on and will continue the battle on HWbot.org as well as on the ORB. Big congrats to the spirit of benching to hwbot benchteam over at OCXtreme!

Let us all go back to benching.

Big kudos also to the way that both the staff at HWBot.org and the staff at futuremark.com have handled this incident. :clap:
06-17-2009, 01:31 AM
gumballguy

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Originally Posted by STEvil

Then you believe wrong.

I read that on a wiki a few months ago when I was looking into doing it. Can't see it from googling quickly now. I might have the page bookmarked at home but I don't really care enough to investigate (unless I go back to the idea, I canned it). Of course, wiki is full of info but not always correct.
06-17-2009, 02:09 AM
lookmomnobrains

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Originally Posted by gumballguy

I read that on a wiki a few months ago when I was looking into doing it. Can't see it from googling quickly now. I might have the page bookmarked at home but I don't really care enough to investigate (unless I go back to the idea, I canned it). Of course, wiki is full of info but not always correct.

:confused: don’t you just love wiki :rofl:

even if you got some super secret Microsoft code, it is still so simple as the data has to be compressed and send. witch will take some of your cpu power no madder how you want to do it ;).
06-17-2009, 03:02 AM
runmc

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Originally Posted by ahmad

Well it seems like scotty gets hung up on ideas sometimes.

I also think that he produces several when he has inspiration, and then posts them in installments. Just like his topper series.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumballguy

I believe it's fast from windows to windows machines as they have proprietry code that MS wont let anyone know the details of. This limitation to windows of course probably wouldn't sit well ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumballguy

I read that on a wiki a few months ago when I was looking into doing it. Can't see it from googling quickly now. I might have the page bookmarked at home but I don't really care enough to investigate (unless I go back to the idea, I canned it). Of course, wiki is full of info but not always correct.

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Originally Posted by lookmomnobrains

:confused: don’t you just love wiki :rofl:

even if you got some super secret Microsoft code, it is still so simple as the data has to be compressed and send. witch will take some of your cpu power no madder how you want to do it ;).

Stay on topic or leave the thread. :up:
06-17-2009, 04:27 AM
saaya

lol, i love how some people are thinking really hard to try and come up with some explanation and some way that he didnt cheat and all his stories of MEGA SUPER SECRET CIA BACKDOOR HIDDEN MICROSOFT ULTRA tweaks are true :D

talk to microsoft... or anybody who knows about linux... yes, you can get a performance boost if you recompile the os kernel specifically tuned for the one app you want to run... but there are thousands of software engineers working hard to tweak the windows kernel and the hardware drivers as much as possible for 3D... what makes you think one single person could come up with a faster driver/kernel than those thousands of people with quite some frickin geniouses involved in it all?

sure there are tweaks to get an app run faster, but those can only do so much... there is a theoretical limit of how much perf you can get out of your hardware at certain clocks and opb has been notably above that several times in the past... there is no tweak that can do this... and if he knew such awesome tweaks then why did he cheat? he was at about the same clocks as everybody else, if he would have had a great tweak it would have pushed him above everybody else... oh wait, it did... but this tweak was actually a cheat manipulating the benchmarks :P
06-17-2009, 04:45 AM
soundood

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Originally Posted by runmc

Stay on topic or leave the thread. :up:

yeah, and join this group while your at it, yes i am a member

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...php?groupid=52

anyone see knightrider the other week? :rofl:
06-17-2009, 05:23 AM
KirkNash

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Originally Posted by saaya

lol, i love how some people are thinking really hard to try and come up with some explanation and some way that he didnt cheat and all his stories of MEGA SUPER SECRET CIA BACKDOOR HIDDEN MICROSOFT ULTRA tweaks are true :D

talk to microsoft... or anybody who knows about linux... yes, you can get a performance boost if you recompile the os kernel specifically tuned for the one app you want to run... but there are thousands of software engineers working hard to tweak the windows kernel and the hardware drivers as much as possible for 3D... what makes you think one single person could come up with a faster driver/kernel than those thousands of people with quite some frickin geniouses involved in it all?

sure there are tweaks to get an app run faster, but those can only do so much... there is a theoretical limit of how much perf you can get out of your hardware at certain clocks and opb has been notably above that several times in the past... there is no tweak that can do this... and if he knew such awesome tweaks then why did he cheat? he was at about the same clocks as everybody else, if he would have had a great tweak it would have pushed him above everybody else... oh wait, it did... but this tweak was actually a cheat manipulating the benchmarks :P

you have not clue what you're talking about :rofl:
06-17-2009, 06:03 AM
tiborrr

I think saaya pretty much summed it up actually.
06-17-2009, 06:41 AM
George_o/c

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Originally Posted by Omastar

STFU.

I just can't believe that one can be so impolite, what a rude behavior :shakes:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirkNash

you have not clue what you're talking about :rofl:

Could you perhaps elaborate, come up with something that you can actually base your opinion on ? Or we're just trolling around here ? :down:
06-17-2009, 07:40 AM
[XC] Oj101

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Originally Posted by Omastar

STFU.

:down:
06-17-2009, 07:43 AM
Charles Wirth

Omastar was shown the door.
06-17-2009, 07:46 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

wow, maybe he didnt see the RED name :rofl:
06-17-2009, 07:55 AM
Charles Wirth

Update:

"Our response to this is basically disqualifying OPB from the Lords of Overclocking and removing all of his recent submits from ORB." - Futuremark

For all those who didnt know, this was not just a case of photochopping AM3 results.

:clap:
06-17-2009, 07:59 AM
tiborrr

A big :clap: goes to Futuremark!
06-17-2009, 08:00 AM
[XC] gomeler

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUGGER

Update:

"Our response to this is basically disqualifying OPB from the Lords of Overclocking and removing all of his recent submits from ORB." - Futuremark

For all those who didnt know, this was not just a case of photochopping AM3 results.

:clap:

Was really surprised how fast Futuremark moved on this. Now, where is 3DMark 2010?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omastar

STFU.

the :banana::banana::banana::banana:?
06-17-2009, 08:02 AM
stangracin3

im not sure about whats all been said in this thread as i have not followed the whole thread.

but does Hwbot have an ip banning system? or will he be able to come back under a new name with noone knowing.
06-17-2009, 08:05 AM
[XC] gomeler

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Originally Posted by stangracin3

im not sure about whats all been said in this thread as i have not followed the whole thread.

but does Hwbot have an ip banning system? or will he be able to come back under a new name with noone knowing.

IP bans don't work. For instance I have access to several hundred IPs I could use to submit results via library and work computers. We just have to stay vigilant and police the databases thoroughly.
06-17-2009, 08:06 AM
stangracin3

thats what i expected the case would be just wanted to make sure.

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