Intel to discontinue Core i7 920 & 940 CPUs

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05-29-2009, 08:27 AM
herderien

this news is for me coherent with intel policy, they are going to put i5 on the market, and by then i920 and 940 will be almost a year old.
To justify the difference in price between the two platforms, they will remove 920 and 940 and put in somthing like 930 and 950 (this one confirmed)
to have a coherent price scale.

hence high range i5 should be close to i920 in performance...
05-29-2009, 08:30 AM
saaya

950s and 975s are popping up everywhere now, still no word on a 930 people speculated about here... :shrug:
it might go EOL and be replaced by an 1156 cpu... thats very likely actually...

but like i said before, why should we even care?
xeons will be around for a while for anyone who wants a cheap and good ocing 1366 cpu...

Intel Xeon UP W3520, 4x 2.67GHz, Sockel-1366, boxed (BX80601W3520) 250E... thats just 10E more than the 920...
05-29-2009, 09:35 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by herderien

this news is for me coherent with intel policy, they are going to put i5 on the market, and by then i920 and 940 will be almost a year old.
To justify the difference in price between the two platforms, they will remove 920 and 940 and put in somthing like 930 and 950 (this one confirmed)
to have a coherent price scale.

hence high range i5 should be close to i920 in performance...

You didn't look at the prices well enough. The fastest i5 costs more than 920 and 940:D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115201

I'd already said, i5 is the replacement for 920 and 940, not 930 and 950 that will cost more than i5. There might be a little Overlap.
05-29-2009, 09:38 AM
Blacky

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Who says they are? Specially when they just released a D0 version of it.

Thats why I said I do not understand "if" this news are true lol and specially what you said they just released a D0 version of it...
05-29-2009, 11:40 AM
THE JEW (RaVeN)

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Originally Posted by hollo

yes. asus i7 "WS" boards also support ECC if you put a xeon in them (as well as the supermicro/tyan etc single socket 1366 boards, not sure about other 'desktop' mobo manufacturers)

Yeah, I knew that 1366 supported it (suprisingly ASRock makes one), but I was unsure if 1156 would. Apparently, Foxhollow is the platform I should be interested in if they make workstation boards.
05-29-2009, 12:20 PM
Odyssey96

Everybody needs to stop freaking out. Seriously, the 920 is simply going to be replaced with 930 just like 940-950 and 965-975. Everybody calm down. This isn't a big deal. I'l repeat just to get the point through.

920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
05-29-2009, 12:42 PM
cobra_kai

Yea there is no way intel will get rid of the 920. I don't have any numbers, but just by pricing I imagine that 920s are the immense majority of 1366 socket chips sold. If they were discontinued, there would be almost zero volume of 1366 chips moved as well as x58 mobos.
05-29-2009, 12:51 PM
drizzt5

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Originally Posted by cobra_kai

Yea there is no way intel will get rid of the 920. I don't have any numbers, but just by pricing I imagine that 920s are the immense majority of 1366 socket chips sold. If they were discontinued, there would be almost zero volume of 1366 chips moved as well as x58 mobos.

But isn't that the reason why they want to discontinue it? Because it competes with i5 too much.
05-29-2009, 12:56 PM
Shintai

I also think people forget that each time they sell a 920. They also sell a X58. The more X58 sold the cheaper(read more profit) UP and DP server platforms and wrokstations aswell.
05-29-2009, 06:56 PM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by drizzt5

But isn't that the reason why they want to discontinue it? Because it competes with i5 too much.

That is the reason! Since the cheapest i5 doesn't have HT, that makes it not such a good deal anyway. It's that next 2.83GHz that things are being cleared for. Nehalem hasn't been more than niche product since it launched.
05-29-2009, 10:43 PM
saaya

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Originally Posted by Odyssey96

Everybody needs to stop freaking out. Seriously, the 920 is simply going to be replaced with 930 just like 940-950 and 965-975. Everybody calm down. This isn't a big deal. I'l repeat just to get the point through.

920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930
920--->930

and you base this on what?
there is no 930...
i agree that its no big deal tho, cause we still have xeons :D

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Originally Posted by Shintai

I also think people forget that each time they sell a 920. They also sell a X58. The more X58 sold the cheaper(read more profit) UP and DP server platforms and wrokstations aswell.

i dont think thats a reason to keep the 920 alive and push 1366 over 1156...

they obviosly make more money selling a cpu plus southbridge (p55) than they make selling a cpu plus nb (and a big one at that, x58) plus sb...

sb is on older nodes and hence pretty much free, so with 1156 they can make 40$ selling something they gave away for free before! its pretty obvious how much more money intel can make with 1156 and why they will push it as much as they can... if it takes 920 to go eol to make 1156 more popular compared to 1366, rest assured, theyll do that.

actually, like i said several times already, they will most likely move 920 from 1366 to 1156. so that means 920 is dead andwe get 2.66 and 2.8 ghz parts on 1156 instead.

again, thats for mainstream, we, overclockers, have xeons that cost the same, clock better, and actually have better turbo modes! :D
so who cares?
05-30-2009, 02:54 AM
geo

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Originally Posted by saaya

and you base this on what?
sb is on older nodes and hence pretty much free, so with 1156 they can make 40$ selling something they gave away for free before! its pretty obvious how much more money intel can make with 1156 and why they will push it as much as they can... if it takes 920 to go eol to make 1156 more popular compared to 1366, rest assured, theyll do that.

thats what happens when there is no competition :down: atleast they'd have included usb 3 and sata 3 for that $40
05-30-2009, 03:13 AM
Zaxis01

So hypothetically speaking if somebody owns an Intel Core I7 940 CPU and it's under warranty and it somehow gets damaged. Would Intel replace it with the 950 instead?
05-30-2009, 03:16 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by Zaxis01

So hypothetically speaking if somebody owns an Intel Core I7 940 CPU and it's under warranty and it somehow gets damaged. Would Intel replace it with the 950 instead?

It would be your vendor that replaces it I guess. And you only get a 950 if they are out of stock with 940. So the answer here and now and the next month or 3 would be a big no.
05-30-2009, 03:19 AM
saaya

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Originally Posted by geo

thats what happens when there is no competition :down: atleast they'd have included usb 3 and sata 3 for that $40

i think they wouldnt have changed any of the tech... the only thing that would change with propper competition would be prices...

amd doesnt have usb3 and sata3 so why should intel add it?
tho i have to agree, its odd that sata3 and usb3 launch without an intel chipset supporting it, but with third party chips...
05-30-2009, 04:55 AM
Tomasis

3 sockels by intel.. i was right anyway.. Ebay is next :)
06-09-2009, 03:15 PM
Anemone

930 is MIA when the 950 is out...
06-09-2009, 04:10 PM
orangekiwii

do xeons require anything special... i wanna get into core i7 but by the time i have enough money... they'll be discontinued... you think xeons would work just fine in a standard board?
06-09-2009, 04:37 PM
Bo_Fox

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Originally Posted by saaya

and you base this on what?
there is no 930...
i agree that its no big deal tho, cause we still have xeons :D

i dont think thats a reason to keep the 920 alive and push 1366 over 1156...

they obviosly make more money selling a cpu plus southbridge (p55) than they make selling a cpu plus nb (and a big one at that, x58) plus sb...

sb is on older nodes and hence pretty much free, so with 1156 they can make 40$ selling something they gave away for free before! its pretty obvious how much more money intel can make with 1156 and why they will push it as much as they can... if it takes 920 to go eol to make 1156 more popular compared to 1366, rest assured, theyll do that.

actually, like i said several times already, they will most likely move 920 from 1366 to 1156. so that means 920 is dead andwe get 2.66 and 2.8 ghz parts on 1156 instead.

again, thats for mainstream, we, overclockers, have xeons that cost the same, clock better, and actually have better turbo modes! :D
so who cares?

Last I looked, the Xeons were more expensive. There was a dual-core Xeon W3503 that has 4MB of L3 cache that is included in HP workstations only. I saw the chip selling on Ebay for $140 shipped but it's only 2.4GHz, although it supports triple-channel DDR3 and HT for 4 virtual cores. I assume the multiplier to be locked at the upper limit, which would mean 18x (or 19x for TurboBoost), right?

All the other 1366 Xeons are much more expensive and they're all low in availability. The one that's similar to the 920 is hovering at around $330. The D0 920 can be had for at least $50 less, so why go for a Xeon? Better turbo modes?? Really?
06-09-2009, 04:55 PM
MomijiTMO

Xeons are a lot more expensive here.

Thanks Intel, now I'm going to i7 half a year earlier than I would have liked. It looks like you won. . . against my poor bank account :p:
06-09-2009, 09:06 PM
Nomadsoul

930 is only speculation.
06-09-2009, 11:39 PM
generics_user

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Originally Posted by Shintai

I also think people forget that each time they sell a 920. They also sell a X58. The more X58 sold the cheaper(read more profit) UP and DP server platforms and wrokstations aswell.

and you forget that everytime intel sells an i5 CPU they make even more money on P55 than they do with X58 as the P55 is just an extremely overpriced southbridge :down:
06-10-2009, 12:01 AM
Hornet331

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Originally Posted by generics_user

and you forget that everytime intel sells an i5 CPU they make even more money on P55 than they do with X58 as the P55 is just an extremely overpriced southbridge :down:

i doubt theres much difference in how much profit they make, X58 is ~20$ more expensive then a P55. (at least that where the rumors that where floating around somewhere)

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Originally Posted by orangekiwii

do xeons require anything special... i wanna get into core i7 but by the time i have enough money... they'll be discontinued... you think xeons would work just fine in a standard board?

no, UP xeons just work like normal i7.
06-22-2009, 11:02 PM
SirKronan

Someone may have mentioned this, but I think 1366 socket processors with 6 cores are in our upgrade path for the future. Oh well.
06-23-2009, 01:07 AM
kgk

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Originally Posted by SirKronan

Someone may have mentioned this, but I think 1366 socket processors with 6 cores are in our upgrade path for the future. Oh well.

Yea but they'll only be readily available for ~8-9 months before Sandy Bridge drops, making the upgrade before then pointless for any current i7 users. The slight boost to productivity is offset by the massive depreciation in value once Sandy Bridge drops.

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