Intel to Retaliate to AMD Phenom II Overclocking Feat, Plans Demonstration at CES '09

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Originally Posted by Aberration

I for one don't care if the P2 clocks to 10GHz. If it is still not competative performance wise, then who cares.

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well obviously a pentium 2 isn't that competitive performance wise.

*Breaking News*

Fugger will be present in 2 weeks for an Nvidia demonstration on overlocking one of their GPU's to 8Ghz on Liquid Helium Cooling.

Wait, what? Oh, Fugger here is your notice/invintation ;)

All I want to know is, does he get to keep the cpu? :D

The most surprised guy here would be none other than FUGGER himself. :D

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Originally Posted by Miss Banana

I don't mean to sound rude, but I have no clue whatsoever what you are talking about.

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dont worry u dont sound rude.. just.. intentionally.. nvm
hello!? - U are on ur 2nd account :stick: :poke:

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Originally Posted by taurus_sel

Why is Fugger the only person to clear 5 GHz on a core i7?

But we do know in general how core i7s run based on results from this forum and no one that I've seen has gotten 5GHz on air.

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u contradicted urself :poke:

OMG The news of AMD and Intels response actually has sparked me to to read XS again and to be excited once again about OCing. Looks like the fun in OCing may come back for me with this competetion and all the possiblilities. :woot:

I don't understand how any enthusiast can be upset about this, Unless they are hardcore fanboys? Is this not the competition we have been looking for? Is it a bad thing that Intel and AMD are taking an interest it ocing? Its just like porsche and Nissan trying to get the fastest around the ring, Good sport.

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Originally Posted by gallag

Unless they are hardcore fanboys? Is this not the competition we have been looking for?

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Competition needs rules and fair play.
Don't think this is about competition, it's about trying to hurt the release of deneb.

hm I guess I missed that news about massive phenomII overclocking..


However didnt kingpin get a skulltrail system to 6.6 ghz several months back? Whats the big deal with a single cpu hitting 6ghz :O. There were even some p4's hitting around 8ghz, am I not right?
I dont really get it :x. This move seems a bit childish oO.

But why not, it could help the enthusiast at the end, so might as well go for it :D. Slap that i7 Fugger :)

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Originally Posted by gosh

Competition needs rules and fair play.
Don't think this is about competition, it's about trying to hurt the release of deneb.

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So you are saying that Intel should stop trying to take the enthusiast market in case it hurts the sales of deneb? You do realise that Intel and AMD are company's don't you, Both would kill a kitten for an extra buck so its hardly a surprise that Intel want to steal deneb sales, Is it?

I suppose you were equally vocal about AMD going to every Intel conference and handing out books called "dual cores for dummy's" Or the "dual core dual" or the times square add about how much electricity Intel wasted etc etc etc etc.
These are fair in my book because AMD is a business and has to take sales from its competitor so don't set the morals bar to high.

Oh my! That avatar... its good old kassler who got owned and kicked around at HardForum. :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by gallag

So you are saying that Intel should stop trying to take the enthusiast market in case it hurts the sales of deneb? You do realise that Intel and AMD are company's don't you, Both would kill a kitten for an extra buck so its hardly a surprise that Intel want to steal deneb sales, Is it?

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That wasn't what I said, I informed about competition. Of course they do what they can to promote their products.
Trying to pretend that this is some sort of competition rather than plain marketing is an insult to others intelligence.
If Intel want real competition then they probably know that it needs some sort of rules etc, maybe they have visit some sports event and learned how it is done there?

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Originally Posted by gosh

That wasn't what I said, I informed about competition. Of course they do what they can to promote their products.
Trying to pretend that this is some sort of competition rather than plain marketing is an insult to others intelligence.

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You did with Kyle and you already saw the outcome.. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by gosh

If Intel want real competition then they probably know that it needs some sort of rules etc, maybe they have visit some sports event and learned how it is done there?

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Interesting... tell us more about these "rules"... ;)

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Originally Posted by gosh

...maybe they have visit some sports event and learned how it is done there?

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Sports arent the best example. There is no fair competition as long as money or big recognition are involved. Its simply impossible.
Watch "Bigger, stronger, faster", it kind of illustrates my point :). Its a nice movie as well, shows a lot of hillariously ridiculous cases ;).

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Originally Posted by Ghostbuster

You did with Kyle and you already saw the outcome.. :rofl:

Interesting... tell us more about these "rules"... ;)

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You are very OT know but yes, HardOCP is probably one of the most focused Intel forum. Say anything good about AMD in relation to Intel and you risk to be banned

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Originally Posted by Neuuubeh

There is no fair competition as long as money or big recognition are involved. Its simply impossible.

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And that was my point

If Intel could clock better they would already have showed it

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Originally Posted by gosh

And that was my point

If Intel could clock better they would already have showed it

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I don't think that you even know what your point was any more, You just seem angry at Intel.

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Originally Posted by gosh

You are very OT know but yes, HardOCP is probably one of the most focused Intel forum. Say anything good about AMD in relation to Intel and you risk to be banned

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:ROTF: omfg... im in mirror universe again. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by gallag

I don't think that you even know what your point was any more, You just seem angry at Intel.

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OT
I think i7 is great, just like phenom. If it could advance on the market finally programmers are able to create threaded software without redesign the whole application or redesign big parts of the application. The market for these true quads is too small now.

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Originally Posted by gosh

Competition needs rules and fair play.
Don't think this is about competition, it's about trying to hurt the release of deneb.

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So Amd's overclocking stunt had nothing to do with them trying to get people to hold off on buying i7 and wait to see how deneb overclocks? It seems that Amd knows they can't beat Intel clock for clock, so instead they are now pushing the we can overclock better card. Nothing wrong with Intel responding to this challenge is there?

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Originally Posted by qurious63ss

So Amd's overclocking stunt had nothing to do with them trying to get people to hold off on buying i7 and wait to see how deneb overclocks?

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Of course it was and I think it was a very smart move too. Hurting the contender on the contenders backyard is probably where it hurts most. Just the reaction from Intel here is proof enough for that. I think that the budget Intel is spending to counter this attack may be rather large. And I think they will use whatever trick they can to make it work for them. They probably need some time for this, and the CES 2009 when deneb should be released may be time enough.
If the processor is able to clock know, then it would be very easy for them to remove the focus from AMD just by inviting some people and show it.

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

u contradicted urself :poke:

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Oh really? How's that?

Kyle questioning kassler/gosh views...
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.ph...5&postcount=39

The post right before Kyle blew the top...
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=48

Where gosh's avatar came from...
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.ph...0&postcount=50

Its truly a rare sight to see Kyle do that... :D

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Originally Posted by gosh

Of course it was and I think it was a very smart move too. Hurting the contender on the contenders backyard is probably where it hurts most. Just the reaction from Intel here is proof enough for that. I think that the budget Intel is spending to counter this attack may be rather large. And I think they will use whatever trick they can to make it work for them. They probably need some time for this, and the CES 2009 when deneb should be released may be time enough.
If the processor is able to clock know, then it would be very easy for them to remove the focus from AMD just by inviting some people and show it.

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Amd has always been very brash since the atholon X2 days when they challenged Intel to some sort of benchmarking competition. Then the "We have a true quad" fiasco as well as the "dummy" book. It seems to me that they initiated all these challenges so why shouldn't Intel respond to the challenge? Because Intel is too big and has more resources?