ocz cryo-z news?

Not that I have seen anything on this specific topic, but has OCZ mentioned anything about mobo prep outside of the online manual? Most people here will probably not use the heating element, and ocz still doesn't discuss the use of dielectric grease. Will any of this come standard or is this unit a "use at your own discretion" thing?

I'm not concerned since XS has a lot of info on mobo prep. I'm just wondering since some people out there NOT on XS might get thier hands on one and lose thier CPU/mobo to condensation in the socket.

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

Not that I have seen anything on this specific topic, but has OCZ mentioned anything about mobo prep outside of the online manual? Most people here will probably not use the heating element, and ocz still doesn't discuss the use of dielectric grease. Will any of this come standard or is this unit a "use at your own discretion" thing?

I'm not concerned since XS has a lot of info on mobo prep. I'm just wondering since some people out there NOT on XS might get thier hands on one and lose thier CPU/mobo to condensation in the socket.

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Good call man....good call.

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Originally Posted by GripS

Good call man....good call.

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I'm an absolute n00b when it comes to extreme cooling. I've done pre-built WC kits before and finally have my current computer set up w/ a custom loop. Nothing special, but at least I am making the jump.

I am just kinda worried that someone who doesn't know enough might just get it, follow the instructions, set it up and BAM, fried CPU, fried MOBO! Hell, if I get my hands on one of these guys, I'll probably be the jerk posting 10,000 questions since I've never used a phase unit (If i am so lucky to get one).

I just hope for any n00b's sake that OCZ does give a tube of dielectric grease and whatever else is needed to keep your computer for becoming a very expensive pile of crap.

No dilectric grease is included. If you insulate well, you shouldn't need it.

24/7 phasers would probably want it, you want to be triple safe. I still can't see leaving a unit on while I am asleep, but that is just me.

Benching for 4 hours here and no condensation with good insulation, I could go 8 no problem.

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

Not that I have seen anything on this specific topic, but has OCZ mentioned anything about mobo prep outside of the online manual? Most people here will probably not use the heating element, and ocz still doesn't discuss the use of dielectric grease. Will any of this come standard or is this unit a "use at your own discretion" thing?

I'm not concerned since XS has a lot of info on mobo prep. I'm just wondering since some people out there NOT on XS might get thier hands on one and lose thier CPU/mobo to condensation in the socket.

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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

No dilectric grease is included. If you insulate well, you shouldn't need it.

24/7 phasers would probably want it, you want to be triple safe. I still can't see leaving a unit on while I am asleep, but that is just me.

Benching for 4 hours here and no condensation with good insulation, I could go 8 no problem.

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I don't know what I'm most scared off :ROTF: to brush this thing on the socket or just use stock insulation only:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/180...insockebz2.jpg

That pic scares the hell out of me too, Jor3lBR. I know that the dielectric grease is safe, but eh, I don't know. Reselling would be a PITA to say the least.

RyderOCZ, I might actually use the phase unit as a main PC once I upgrade from my q6600, which would be 8 -12 hours max a day (usually 6 hours of on time most of the week per day). I'd rather be overly prepared instead of chancing for condensation since the mobo prep isn't very costly compared to the parts. Thanks for the response. I'm still trying to figure everything out and you've been a big help so far. :up:

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

That pic scares the hell out of me too, Jor3lBR. I know that the dielectric grease is safe, but eh, I don't know. Reselling would be a PITA to say the least.

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It rinses right away with water and a toothbrush. Then you just dry the board with compressed air (I do anyway) Just don't let water sit in the socket, the pins will corrode, you want it totally dry before you leave it sit for any length of time.

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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

It rinses right away with water and a toothbrush. Then you just dry the board with compressed air (I do anyway) Just don't let water sit in the socket, the pins will corrode, you want it totally dry before you leave it sit for any length of time.

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lol have you actually tried that
there is no way in hell that will work
and second of all i can guarantee you 1000% you will bend the pins

AMD CPUs had much firmer fins but i could not get the grease off the CPUs with toothbrush and water or any other solvent which is supposed to dissolve the grease

once it's in there you just have to live with it or you could give the whole mobo a soap bath and then bake it at very low temps for an hour or whatever to dry it heheheh (i can show you photos of the second method :rofl: )

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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

It rinses right away with water and a toothbrush. Then you just dry the board with compressed air (I do anyway) Just don't let water sit in the socket, the pins will corrode, you want it totally dry before you leave it sit for any length of time.

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Hey Ryder,

I saw your post linking FUGGER's new comments on the unit.

So paperwork aside, will OCZ tune the units taking those notes in consideration before ready to ship?

Jor3lBR,

I have no idea right now what, if any, changes are being made based on Fugger's comments.

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Originally Posted by dinos22

lol have you actually tried that
there is no way in hell that will work
and second of all i can guarantee you 1000% you will bend the pins

AMD CPUs had much firmer fins but i could not get the grease off the CPUs with toothbrush and water or any other solvent which is supposed to dissolve the grease

once it's in there you just have to live with it or you could give the whole mobo a soap bath and then bake it at very low temps for an hour or whatever to dry it heheheh (i can show you photos of the second method :rofl: )

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Thanks for the info dinos22. I would like to see a pic of you backing a mobo!:up: ;)

I guess I should ask a more intelligent question. With stock cooling (say stock intel cooler) will the grease actually cause a problem? I wouldn't think so, but I don't know.:shrug:

Most people you can sell to have never even looked inside a computer, so as long as it won't cause any problems, I'm down. :p:

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

I guess I should ask a more intelligent question. With stock cooling (say stock intel cooler) will the grease actually cause a problem? I wouldn't think so, but I don't know.:shrug:

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If it runs with Phase, then it will run with stock cooling... CPU operation does no change between the 2 methods of cooling...accept the speed/temp :)

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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

If it runs with Phase, then it will run with stock cooling... CPU operation does no change between the 2 methods of cooling...accept the speed/temp :)

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PERFECT!:up: :D

So please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the consensus is the Cryo-Z wouldn't be ideal to use when overclocking a 45nm Q9550 system, but it would do well on a 65nm Q6700 one, because of voltage/power reasons, yes? TIA!

Other way around if anything ;)

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

Thanks for the info dinos22. I would like to see a pic of you backing a mobo!:up: ;)

I guess I should ask a more intelligent question. With stock cooling (say stock intel cooler) will the grease actually cause a problem? I wouldn't think so, but I don't know.:shrug:

Most people you can sell to have never even looked inside a computer, so as long as it won't cause any problems, I'm down. :p:

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If you put to much or you run the board in a case with the stock cooler the grease will eventually liquefy and run out of the socket due to the heat. When the board cools back down it will solidify again.

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

That pic scares the hell out of me too, Jor3lBR. I know that the dielectric grease is safe, but eh, I don't know. Reselling would be a PITA to say the least.

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Cleans right up with commercial electronics cleaning solutions leaving no trace.

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Originally Posted by Dinos22

then bake it at very low temps for an hour or whatever to dry it heheheh

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Dry or Until DONE???:shrug:

How long until DONE?...:D

And be sure to use a very soft bristled toothbrush or the cpu pins will look like a drunk plowed the cornfield...

So.... it was coming out last week, then it was coming out this week... and now we're back to no ETA?

Edit: Yes, that statement was made not including all the other times it was "coming out soon". Maybe I got my hopes up thinking this time OCZ really meant it :shrug:

i think ocz bit off a lil more than they can chew on this. it was suppose to be out for awhile now from what ive read and yet its still not here. i had my hopes up but until i see something im not to concerned about it anymore. my modded cool it does a great job for now.

I've been purchasing my fair share of OCZ products over the years and have enjoyed all of them, so I'm not trying to bash anyone or anything here.

However, it seems to have gotten rather ridiculous with all this Cryo-Z information.

Every few months word makes it around that the unit is coming out "very soon"... and then nothing is heard for weeks even months at a time after that. This is at least the third time I have personally read that the Cryo-Z was coming out "soon." Assuming I'm not completely in the loop, I'd have to assume it's probably been more than three times total.

I have to, frankly, question whether the unit will ever be sold publicly. As it is, anyone holding their breath waiting for the unit to be released has long since died.

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Originally Posted by Sly Fox

I've been purchasing my fair share of OCZ products over the years and have enjoyed all of them, so I'm not trying to bash anyone or anything here.

However, it seems to have gotten rather ridiculous with all this Cryo-Z information.

Every few months word makes it around that the unit is coming out "very soon"... and then nothing is heard for weeks even months at a time after that. This is at least the third time I have personally read that the Cryo-Z was coming out "soon." Assuming I'm not completely in the loop, I'd have to assume it's probably been more than three times total.

I have to, frankly, question whether the unit will ever be sold publicly. As it is, anyone holding their breath waiting for the unit to be released has long since died.

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On a positive note, "holding my breath" has really kept my wallet fat and healthy. Oh, the upgrades I'd buy if I wasn't waiting for this. :p:

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Originally Posted by Serra

So.... it was coming out last week, then it was coming out this week... and now we're back to no ETA?

Edit: Yes, that statement was made not including all the other times it was "coming out soon". Maybe I got my hopes up thinking this time OCZ really meant it :shrug:

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Strange..... I don't recall anybody from OCZ stating when the exact date would be. I'm betting there are several factors still at play here.

I'd much rather have a product that's thoroughly and completely tested than one that's rushed to market with flaws.

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Originally Posted by loonym

I'd much rather have a product that's thoroughly and completely tested than one that's rushed to market with flaws.

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Exactly...... I believe this is the real reason why we are waiting so long. I'd rather have a product that will work and not ruin my system.