Intel Nehalem Working at 3.2GHz Pictured

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Originally Posted by bowman

I just hope Bloomfield won't exclusively consist of the ridiculous 'Extreme' branded chips. If it won't I'm probably springing for one (pending first reviews obviously).

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I don't think that's the plan, I believe there will be a few more moderately priced options probably starting in the upper $300 range.

retail chips? August/September/October/November/December/next year?

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Originally Posted by adamsleath

retail chips? August/September/October/November/December/next year?

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Bloomfield will be available in Q4. Mainstream variants in the first half of '09.

Q4
October doubtful
November maybe
December probably

h1'09 - June 30th then.

Can't wait for benchies, even if i won't be able to afford one for a million years.

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Originally Posted by adamsleath

Q4
October doubtful
November maybe
December probably

h1'09 - June 30th then.

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Why the pessimism? Perhaps the current lack of 45nm quad core products? Or is there something else?

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Originally Posted by Blauhung

I don't think that's the plan, I believe there will be a few more moderately priced options probably starting in the upper $300 range.

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Thank goodness.

Although with the problems they have filling up Penryn stocks now I guess I'd have to PRE-ORDER to get one.. :rofl:

Even though it looks really good and tasty as slideware now, my recent foolish AMD purchase has made me a much more skeptical consumer. I'll want to see some nice thorough third party hard looks at it before I put down the cash.

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Originally Posted by Seraphiel

In the year '01 to '02 the oil price was ~20$ to ~30$ pr barrel (CL), today it is about 80$ to 90$ higher.

Even with the lowered value of the dollar, there is no way the dramatic increase in price balancess the lowered value of the dollar. Fuel price affects so many areas indirectly, that it isn't funny or obvious how wide the contingency (?) effect is upon everything, as most goods are very dependant upon fuel price (for countries that don't produce everything they need).

Electronics or anthing else isn't getting cheaper in your country (Denmark), unless you live or observe a total different country than myself (also a Dane like yourself).

It has all become much worse overall since then (2001). If only our economy (and especially the US's) was 5 times stronger than then. But that it isn't the case and prices are rising in our country on many goods (non US imports).

What has really become cheaper now than then? I can't personally, think of a single thing that has actually been effectively cheaper in our country since then, but you're are welcome to point out any flaws in this assumption and feeling.

I hope that the world in general abandons pegging their currency with the US dollar, as it simply too weak and volitile for now and in the near future. The Euro would be a better and more stabile currency in the long term, and in terms of stability (at least perceptive stability). But fear, doubt, uncertainty, incompetence, belief, religion etc., affects the world's economy more than sensible and logic thought.

Could be wrong though, obviously, as this is just speculation and one single point of view. I'd love to be wrong, really.

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Add 7 years inflation. And electronics aint cheap? Thats a joke. Its the cheapest ever. Things like a Q6600 you get for nothing. It cost 1250DKK with 25% VAT! Electronics are sold in dollar, so each time the dollar drops. Your electronics gets cheaper. Some years ago we payed about 7-7.5DKK per dollar, now we pay 4.65DKK.

China released the Yuan from the dollar. The change is already 8% this year between those 2.

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Originally Posted by adamsleath

retail chips? August/September/October/November/December/next year?

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Server/extreme Q4 2008.
Mainstream/Mobile Q1 2009
Value/Lowend Q2 2009

Yahoo!!!! its almost here for me!!

Wondering if their is more information about the Memory controller. Will you be able to use DDR3 bought today (for instance 1800 Mhz kits) in Bloomsfield?
The news post mentions a DDR3-1333Mhz controller specifically, does it mean its locked to that speed?
Would be nice to know when buying memory today, if it will be useless if upgrading to Nehalem. If anyone knows.

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Server/extreme Q4 2008.
Mainstream/Mobile Q1 2009
Value/Lowend Q2 2009

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that's a little bit more specific.

Performance per Watt per $$ is what interests me, now.

but Q2 still means June 30th to me.

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Originally Posted by Shadout

Wondering if their is more information about the Memory controller. Will you be able to use DDR3 bought today (for instance 1800 Mhz kits) in Bloomsfield?
The Onews post mentions a DDR3-1333Mhz controller specifically, does it mean its locked to that speed?
Would be nice to know when buying memory today, if it will be useless if upgrading to Nehalem. If anyone knows.

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While I can't be sure, there's really no reason to expect it wouldnt work just fine. The Lynnfield and Havendale varriants on the nehalem core will most likely be locked to JDEC established speeds set through SPD settings, so there might not be support for some of the higher speeds that aren't spec'd out yet.

Bloomfield and Gainstwon on the other hand have a scalable NB that will most likely be setting the base clock frequency that CPU and memory frequency. Just like now there will be selectable multipliers as well. Really the high end desktop and server platforms should be nice and configurable on the memory front.

So in summary, you should be fine with what you have, just don't expect to be able to tweak anything if you end up with the mainstream platform.

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Server/extreme Q4 2008.
Mainstream/Mobile Q1 2009
Value/Lowend Q2 2009

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that's official launch time, not volume availability

server volume is Q1 2009 for example so expect all the rest will shift also.