Q4 2008 and most likely no.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiveprime
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Q4 2008 and most likely no.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiveprime
q4 2008 will be paper launched but some say q1 2009 will actually get our hands on it without the 500 dollar premium on the first 1week-4week of a EE processor release... and it's a DEF no for the lga 775 waterblocks... the CPUs are MUCH bigger and the holes in the MB are bigger tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
It wont be a paperlaunch...and in Q1 2009 you will have 250$ versions aswell. Possible down to 180$.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whokidmo
Don't worry, your not an idiot, just a whole lot of faulty information wandering around. x58 is the marketing name for the single socket high end desktop platform built around the Bloomfield CPU on the LGA1366 socket, and the Tylersburg chipset. There only needs to be support for 3 DIMM slots as a single Bloomfield only has 1 tipple channel memory controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whokidmo
Also on LGA1366 will be the Gainstown CPU. This is the exact same product as Bloomfield (both using the "Nehalem" product), but with 2 active QPI links instead of Bloomfield's 1, and it will be coupled with the same Tylersburg chipset. In this case the platform is a dual socket workstation and because you have 2 CPU's each with their own 3 channel memory controller, you can use 6 channels of memory.
They are 2 different platforms for 2 different markets distinguished mostly by how many QPI links are active in the CPU's and Tylersburg chipset.
Very end of this year, and no unless they have a very full featured universal mounting system.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiveprime
I was under the impression that Bloomfield wouldn't go below $300 as that would be eating into Lynnfields market, but i could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Lynnsfield are Q1 2009 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
I was refering to Nehalem family as such. He can buy "cheap" nehalems and not forced to buy yorkies etc.
For the enthutiast platform, hell no.
sorry maybe i should have said early q1 2009... most of the mainstream CPUs from the nehalem family will most likely release on like march but you know how intel is with launch dates... they say q4 2008 means december 31st 2008... lol and note the 1-4 week comment i made... i really think they will release about 3 weeks before X-mas therefore price jack up the :bananal:so hence 4 weeks later would me new years :clap:but yah thats how i read it on some forum and i believe it but then again it is pure speculation and maybe i shouldn't have said paper launch, thats completely different :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
[QUOTE=Blauhung;3031251]Also on LGA1366 will be the Gainstown CPU. This is the exact same product as Bloomfield (both using the "Nehalem" product), but with 2 active QPI links instead of Bloomfield's 1, and it will be coupled with the same Tylersburg chipset. In this case the platform is a dual socket workstation and because you have 2 CPU's each with their own 3 channel memory controller, you can use 6 channels of memory.[QUOTE]
so will that server platform have 4 16x PCI-E slots? i read that tylersburg will have 2 16x or 4 8x... but with this platform you speak of, i think theres room for expansion, BtW how much u think gainstown will be? much higher them bloomfield? also does anything know the main difference between server and desktop CPUs? i was always under the impression that server CPUs were just more heavy duty or something along those lines.
I think you are pretty wrong. Core 2 was released in Q3 (July 27th), 45nm was released when etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Whokidmo
You just sound like a troll/flamer..
Also Intel doesnt jack prices up. Retail places like newegg does that. Same reason that on July 27th 2006 you could buy an E6600 here for around 320$ where it was over 400$ on newegg.
Server CPUs are usually DP or MP enabled. And the CPUs wont be much more expensive and you will have a vast selections of lower speeds to pick from plus LV version. To compare a 2.5Ghz DP Xeon CPU cost about the same as a 2.66Ghz normal desktop CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whokidmo
yes i remember the 45nm very vividly... with all the delays...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...highlight=2007
And i thank you for your kind words... forums are for discussions and enlightenment... not ridicule... it's people like you which is why i just research answers to my own dam questions and dont have for advice or opinion... next time save yourself some time and just discuss the topic at hand... I didn't attack you I expect the same level of respect...
Servers, mobiles and extreme versions wasnt delayed was they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Whokidmo
Q4 2008 is for what again?
And the delay was mainly due to heavy demand in the 2 first segments besides the bug. At worst, you can say mainstream nehalems will be delayed. If they have a heavy demand in the other 3 segments and if they find a bug.
If you expect that from Shintai,then you're in for a big disappointment...He is basically intel/NV fan(b) in whose eyes those 2 companies just can't do wrong,no matter what!Quote:
Originally Posted by Whokidmo
and your only purpose, it the recent time, seems to be, to bash shintai in every thread you post... talk about being constructive. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
BS.I didn't mention the dude in ages.Do you even know what are you talking about or you just make it up along the way?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Wishful called, it wants its thinking back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Remember Core 2 launch? People said the same thing claiming it would cost a fortune. Yet I payed ~320$ in july 2006 for an E6600. I wouldnt call that expensive...would you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
Yup, 320 for a dual core is SO equivalent to $180 on a quad-core that has NB, PCIe and IIRC, IGP too. Even without the extra L3 and QPI, this die will approach 190-200mm^2 sizes already. Go figure how big Conroe was, then come back. Go figure how much Kentsfield non-extreme was introduced at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Perhaps a castrated version, tricore-lynns. But oh, what Paul said! They have TEH GOOD CPUs on TEH GOOD PROCESS!
Dude, you make me ROFL like I've never done before.
But Intel doesn't have slow Quad Core to compare to the $180 AMD chip:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
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Originally Posted by Macadamia
No IGP on Lynnsfield, no QPI and dualchannel memory. And comparing something with 2½ years between is..well. Today the 2x143mm2 Q6600 are already selling around the 200$ mark (Even 2Ghz DP xeons are around that aswell). The non extreme kentsfield was down to about 250$ if Xeons count back then. But today quads hit the mainstream. So its abit wrong to compare the 2. Since you would essentially have to compare a dualcore with a quadcore instread.
Its like claiming a 280GTX would be 1200$ because an 8800Ultra was 700.
Welcome to the fast paced world of semiconductors.
As for Nehalem based CPUs,some new informations here:
We see that Dual Cores based on Nehalem core will fill in the 75-300$ price range.Dual cores.Quote:
The nehalem generation processors will be formally presented in the fourth quarter this year, and they will begin to appear ( on the market) from the lower server part and upper desktop segment.
It was considered that the more accessible lynnfield processors (four cores, LGA 1160) and Havendale (two cores, LGA 1160) with support to dual-channel memory DDR- 3 will appear in first half of 2009. Associate reports that now Intel is assembled to present the indicated lynnfield and Havendale processors only in the third quarter 2009. Dual core processors havendale will fill the price niche from $75 to $300.
http://xtreview.com/images/intel-lyn...ors-rel-01.png
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Bloomfield processors for desktop systems will appear in the first quarter 2009. As it was explained, the majority of these processors will be originally supplied for server segment - for example, in the first quarter ( 2009 ) their portion in the two-processor segment will reach 30%. In this case the portion of analogous processors in the desktop segment will be small.
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In first half of 2010 intel company intends to present the 32 nm westmere processors , which will exceed Bloomfield according to several quantitative characteristics: the number of core will increase from four to six, the cache capacity in the third level will increase from 8 to 12 MB. In this case compatibility with LGA 1366 socket will be preserved.
Thats not news..thats some old charts from pcwatch if I recall right. And then mixed into an article.
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2...gai403_03l.gif
Well if it's not fitting your prearranged view then it must be false :D.Could you at least entertain the possibility it could be true and lynnfield is a Q3 09' product that in dual core variant will be costing 74-300$?
Lynnsfield is a QUADCORE product. Havendale is a DUALCORE product WITH GPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
Lynnsfield Q1 2009, Havendale Q2 2009.
I really doubt there will be a Havendale costing 300$. They are heavily value oriented. Lynnsfield however will be in the 180-320$ Perhaps abit more.
And if you want to believe pcwatchs kaigon. Then check the old AMD charts...surely some mistake?
http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/n...alem-chart.png
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Originally Posted by Shintai
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2...gai397_01l.gif
2.66GHz Nehalem will be well worth its more than $325 but less than $400. That puts it at or near 3800+ launch price and similar to the E6600. Yes, this chart is old as well.