New Mozart TX Dual Loop Build with Lots of Pics

Hi System Viper,

You have choose DD ion over EK-88 FC, any reason for that?

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Originally Posted by systemviper

Yo Yo yO. first, must say, your the bomb, that case is so slick. it almost makes me change my mind back from the Mountian Mod back to the Mozart.

BUT, i just need the room, don't need the bling and don't care about sound. My #1 priority is space and the MM got what it takes. I DO NOT want to have to stress about adding something....

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I totally hear that. You would think with all this space I would want for nothing, but this case still leaves something to be desired. For example, I now have 2 Gigabyte i-Ram boxes to install (5.25" bay devices) and no bays to put them in, so I gotta figure out some way to mount them unnaturally ...

But I suppose each case has it's own challenges :up:

Thanks for the support and I look forward to your new build!

Here's the mow-bow gettin' its smarts all plumbed up:

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/mobotoob_001.jpg

Leftover tubing from my old Zalman Reserator! Best tubing I've seen yet. Real rubbery and great bend radius!

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/mobotoob_002.jpg

Dat dem der thing suer is neet.

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/mobotoob_003.jpg

Wonder if dem der smarts is gonna werk?

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/mobotoob_004.jpg

Dem 'puters suuuuuure is neat.

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/mobotoob_005.jpg

I'm a-lookin down on dem toobers!

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/mobotoob_006.jpg

Noobers! Jim go get ma a pickle!

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/mobotoob_007.jpg

UH OH! HEY LOOK PARALLEL 8800GTX's in SLI! THE WHISTLES GO WOOO! :rofl:

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/mobotoob_008.jpg

Would ya get a load o that ma!? Parallel GTX cards. SHOOOO - WEEe! :rofl: :yepp: :yepp: :yepp:



Whew. Anybody notice my oops? :shakes:


Till next time! :D

Um...you're lines are going out the back of the pc when this is suppose to be internally cooled? I don't know...memory isn't water cooled? :P

1 SB out looks like its kinking and its a different color, 2 where the heck is the out line on the parallel SLI blocks?? :P

:edit: and it looks like u missed your mosfet block. could create a few issues. maybe water flying across the room and you mobo.

Output for parallel blocks is on the wrong card.

Why da heck he connect both line between the FC block?:shrug:

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Originally Posted by Swingerton

Um...you're lines are going out the back of the pc when this is suppose to be internally cooled? I don't know...memory isn't water cooled? :P

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The lines going to the rear are only for draining the system. There is a removeable plug on the outside which can be unscrewed for draining.

Water-cooling memory is almost as useless as water-cooling your hard drive. Neither require it. Of course I'll get some flack for that :eek:

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Originally Posted by Pedalmonkey

1 SB out looks like its kinking and its a different color, 2 where the heck is the out line on the parallel SLI blocks?? :P

:edit: and it looks like u missed your mosfet block. could create a few issues. maybe water flying across the room and you mobo.

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The clear tubing is thin-walled. It's all I had at the time. It will be replaced eventually, but I do like the clear vs. blue contrast so that'll stay. It's not kinking, and regarding the mosfet block that is the input for that loop and I just haven't hooked up the pump line yet.

I should have stated before, what you are looking at are 2 separate loops ...

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Originally Posted by Evil-Fruits|R4z

Output for parallel blocks is on the wrong card.

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Hehe, look carefully and think about how the blocks flow. In through the bottom (on the left in the last photo), through both blocks at the same time, then out the top. This is a parallel configuration without using a 'y'.

Not only will I get less flow resistance, but the card temps should remain very very close to one another.

Still, nobody has yet found my egregious (and totally obvious) error :shrug: :)

I'd be somewhat inclined to swap the inlet and outlet on the left-hand mofset block, but aside from that I can't see anything wrong with the loop layout...

Eller

no clamp on the other GTX barb? wrong motherboard screws?

All the mobo screws look right. And yeah, he's missing a clamp on one of the Apogee GTX barbs (inlet).

Eller

I'm gonna guess here...I only see one hose going to the dual cards - no output hose???

Looking at the card configuration and factoring in the two hoses coming from the rear of the case.....


If you look closely - the two hoses come from the back of the case and then disappear through a cutout in the motherboard tray. Then you have one hose going to the bottom graphics card, followed by two hoses from the bottom card to the top card.......but I don't see another hose from the top of the card to the rest of the loop.

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Originally Posted by Maxx103

I'm gonna guess here...I only see one hose going to the dual cards - no output hose???

Looking at the card configuration and factoring in the two hoses coming from the rear of the case.....


If you look closely - the two hoses come from the back of the case and then disappear through a cutout in the motherboard tray. Then you have one hose going to the bottom graphics card, followed by two hoses from the bottom card to the top card.......but I don't see another hose from the top of the card to the rest of the loop.

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Water loop for the GPU goes in the bottom card, through both, then out the top.
The two hoses coming out the back of the case are just the drains for the CPU/mobo and GPU loops.
And he hasn't finished tubing everything, since the CPU/mobo loop doesn't have an inlet yet.

Eller

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Originally Posted by oerekum

no clamp on the other GTX barb?

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Hehe yup after I took the pics I noticed I had forgotten a clamp on the GTX :yepp:

Sucks 'cause that tubing is rather difficult to get on the barbs :rolleyes:

Good catch! :clap:

Any updates?

My Mozart build:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=182793

WOW, are they the koolance compression barbs?

making me drool

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Originally Posted by NoobCake

WOW, are they the koolance compression barbs?

making me drool

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:confused:......:lol2:.......:rolleyes:........... :brick:

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Originally Posted by NoobCake

making me drool

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Yea man! noob cake is my fav!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :ROTF: :ROTF: :D :D :p:

Jk jk!! lol. But yes I agree, koolance compressions are awesome, it's just the word "koolance" that makes me shivver....... :ROTF: :ROTF: :rolleyes:

(me) :clap:

Hey everybody, I've been away for a while, dealing with life and what not ... mostly due to my mom getting cancer. She's doing pretty good now, chemo seems to have stopped it for now so we're all pretty stoked.

So anyway I have resumed my build and will be adding more pics soon.

I've changed several things since my initial build and learned a few lessons along the way:

Compression fittings have some disadvantages:

a) initially I had used some very soft Primochill tubing and I knew I would regret it. Well it turned out exactly like I expected, the tubing slipped right out of the fitting after running the system for a few days (I'll post a pic for reference later) and coolant poured all over everything. Luckily I had just turned off the machine so hopefully no permanent damage was done ...

b) The whole fitting will often unscrew instead of just the outer part when you try to remove the hose (just means you have to cut the hose, no biggie but kind of dumb)

c) You are limited to thin-walled tubing

I've since changed everything 'cept the mobo to Koolance barbs, with large O.D. tubing (3/8" x 5/8") and Herbie clamps. This doesn't look as nice but damn those Herbie clamps sure are sweet. They're super easy to remove and do a great job of sealing :up:


The next couple of posts will detail what failed in my initial build, then I will move on to my current status. Take care everybody, and eat right and excercise so you don't get freaking cancer! :eek:

a little dab of loctite will keep those barbs from twisting out & leaking

The failure of de feet


Well I told you I'd let you in on a couple failures I had that kinda killed my enthusiasm for a while:

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/fail_001.jpg

Here you see the EK Southbridge block splayed open for your enjoyment. This is a very nice part. Notice the Koolance compression fittings (sigh).

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/fail_002.jpg

Here it is installed. The arrow is where I had a problem. The hose I used was too thin-walled and over time, it ended up coming loose from the fitting. Apparently the weight of it pulling down was enough to release it from the fitting entirely. Fortunately I noticed right away (I was just showing off the system and had just turned it off!) so I was able to get the machine into the bathtub quickly. Coolant went everywhere, all over the mobo and gfx cards, so I pulled it all apart, fired up the air compressor, rinsed the affected parts under tap water and blew everything off thoroughly.

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/fail_003.jpg

After I had it all apart I noticed something rather disturbing ...

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/fail_004.jpg

Yep, they're both cracked.

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/fail_005.jpg

Gotta be careful with Acrylic! :rolleyes:

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/fail_006.jpg

Crack is fun in a pipe, but not in your res.

http://www.brimbo.com/temp/mozartbuild/fail_007.jpg

That beatch has a deep crack!

This failure was due strictly to my own stupidity. The mounting bolts for the res were not perfectly flush with the bayres mount and I cranked the acrylic down too hard. I've fixed this in the new version that you will see soon :clap:

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Originally Posted by Sunayknits

Crack is fun in a pipe, but not in your res.

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ROFLMAO.

Anyhoo thanks for sharing with us. I for one will make sure I don't screw my res down too hard. Lucky you were aware of the problem before you lost any parts. Good luck with the rehash!

ouch, bad cracks...