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10-25-2007, 01:17 AM
hipro5

eva2000, WHY don't you put in msconfig "maxmem = 640" and test it...?.....
10-25-2007, 01:31 AM
eva2000

never tried maxmem value of 640M before 600-615 yes but not 640.. will try it now :)

see from ya user title you have a new addiction :cool:

edit: tried maxmem 640 with 3.94GB file copy waza 0.892s faster

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli..._maxmem640.png
10-25-2007, 02:57 AM
Zeus

Could someone please explain this tweak in proper english?

I just can't get my head around it.

Here's what i understand:

Install Spi on D partion
Make pagefile of min 512 max 512 on D partion
Set maxmem to 600 with msconfig

reboot

Create 3 folders you fill with pics or whatever until they're 632mb each
Open superPi, select size (32M in my case) leave it at "now start to calculate" dialog.

Copy each of the 632mb files into a folder that's in the SuperPi folder on partion D
Make a winrar archive of this file

Let it idle for about 45 seconds watching taskmanager until free memory matches systemcache.(Approx.)

Run SuperPi.

Did it this way but gained 0,00 i must have done something or a couple of things wrong.
10-25-2007, 03:00 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Could someone please explain this tweak in proper english?

I just can't get my head around it.

Here's what i understand:

Install Spi on D partion
Make pagefile of min 512 max 512 on D partion
Set maxmem to 600 with msconfig

reboot

Create 3 folders you fill with pics or whatever until they're 632mb each
Open superPi, select size (32M in my case) leave it at "now start to calculate" dialog.

Copy each of the 632mb files into a folder that's in the SuperPi folder on partion D
Make a winrar archive of this file

Let it idle for about 45 seconds watching taskmanager until free memory matches systemcache.(Approx.)

Run SuperPi.

Did it this way but gained 0,00 i must have done something or a couple of things wrong.

All not necessary :D

Just make a new folder on your desktop
Take a zipped filed with the size around 650mb,
copy that file into that new folder. rename it
copy the same file again, rename it
copy the file again.
the systemcache should be high now.
Run superpi :Dµ

edit*
idleing should improve afterall ^^
10-25-2007, 03:18 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

never tried maxmem value of 640M before 600-615 yes but not 640.. will try it now :)

see from ya user title you have a new addiction :cool:

edit: tried maxmem 640 with 3.94GB file copy waza 0.892s faster

HA, HA, HA........George you MUST have the WORST windows instalation EVER..... :D :p:
10-25-2007, 03:24 AM
mrlobber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Let it idle for about 45 seconds watching taskmanager until free memory matches systemcache.(Approx.)

Did it for you? If not, it probably means you actually haven't applied the tweak, at least that's what I understand about the essence of CDT.

I personally haven't be able to match these two yet... so, consequently, no gain in Superpi.
10-25-2007, 03:30 AM
BeardyMan

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This is the max i could push the systemcacheperhaps if i lett it idle more i can get more out of it. Other then that it works lol:D
10-25-2007, 04:54 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

HA, HA, HA........George you MUST have the WORST windows instalation EVER..... :D :p:

Yeah could be.. does maybe win2003 better for this ?
10-25-2007, 07:29 AM
andre X_X

regular XP SP2 works ok, but dont slipstream any updates, at least it works for me
10-25-2007, 07:55 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre X_X

regular XP SP2 works ok, but dont slipstream any updates, at least it works for me

Oh no updates better ? i'm fully updated via Ryam VM packs etc for my WinXP Pro SP2 install http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4736 heh
10-25-2007, 08:17 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

This is the max i could push the systemcacheperhaps if i lett it idle more i can get more out of it. Other then that it works lol:D

Seems like you got the tweak. What's the difference with Copy-Waza?
10-25-2007, 08:30 AM
wa77ss

I thought it was well known that 2003 was much better for SPI? Maybe I just took for granted that it was much better.
10-25-2007, 08:39 AM
wittekakker

Everyone working with HD's it seems, why not get rid of this and get yourself a proper RAMdisk? Lot less wondering about tweaks because DRAM is so much faster then HD, and atleast everyone would actually understand what is happening instead of this "magic tweak" fairytales :D
10-25-2007, 08:42 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by wa77ss

I thought it was well known that 2003 was much better for SPI? Maybe I just took for granted that it was much better.

For some it is, for some it ain't :).

I'd like to see some 03 vs XP results of the tweak
10-25-2007, 08:50 AM
cadaveca

Ehy guys, how come noone who is testing this tweak does it jsut as it says, and has to try thier own way?

I see no max meme 632mb, I see noone takingthe exact same steps as posted in OP. I wish I had more time than to take a quick perusal of the forums...'cause I think if you follow all steps, pagefile, copywaza file size(3x632MB, rar'ed), and thin gs might work different.

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so the best way is you only make it once for 632mb for instance, then copy it into the folderright? then re-name the original to othername and copy into that folder...so now your folder has how much? 1264mb? so the one remain out side the folder still 632mb right?
so rename again and "cut it and paste into that folder...
now, if you install winrar already, right click that folder, and make a whatever name of the rar file...there we go, after done...you know what to do...

I have not seen anyone do...you must rar the 3x632MB files after put into folder. The last rar will use RAM, pagefile, and windows cache, if you set all things as described, and if you use a proper blank file, when it's done, all you got is blank data left in those spaces...you wait a few minutes for windows to "right itself" form the huge file, and then bench.

So, who's the first to rar?
10-25-2007, 09:01 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Ehy guys, how come noone who is testing this tweak does it jsut as it says, and has to try thier own way?

I see no max meme 632mb, I see noone takingthe exact same steps as posted in OP. I wish I had more time than to take a quick perusal of the forums...'cause I think if you follow all steps, pagefile, copywaza file size(3x632MB, rar'ed), and thin gs might work different.

I have not seen anyone do...you must rar the 3x632MB files after put into folder. The last rar will use RAM, pagefile, and windows cache, if you set all things as described, and if you use a proper blank file, when it's done, all you got is blank data left in those spaces...you wait a few minutes for windows to "right itself" form the huge file, and then bench.

So, who's the first to rar?

already tried it http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=38
10-25-2007, 09:07 AM
cadaveca

Yes, i saw your post EVa, but you have not made all the tweaks in order. you must have maxmem, 525mb-525mb pagefile, 3x files into folder, rar, then use rar'ed file for copywaza, then bench. did you do like this, as I cannot tell which screenshot is from this...also the iwndows registry tweaks MUST be done...I cannot see un-optimized windows doing this "trick" right...

Don't gt me wrong, I do not question your posts EVAR!!!!! The respect I have for you in this regard is very large. But without showing results, I must wonder what is not right...not in what you did, but maybe in the explanation. I think I understand what is trying to be accomplished...but maybe not. lol.

I also think we are missing one part...what size of partitions are being used for C: and D: ? this will affect how well copywaza works, methinks.
10-25-2007, 09:10 AM
mrlobber

Cadaveca, so did I here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=121 (look at the 3rd pic).
10-25-2007, 09:12 AM
eva2000

yeah made the 3 files rar'd then rar'd to a larger file but OPB stated to use 600 Maxmem and 512M fixed page file or you mean maxmem should of been 512 instead of 600 ??

not sure what you mean without showing results.. my results are in that link or you mean showing no improvements in my results ???
10-25-2007, 09:19 AM
hipro5

Sorry I went out of my clothes..... Yes I know sometimes I'm an arshole......Keep on, I won't involve into this any more coz I'm not "neutral"......I'll only read your posts and findings...:shakes:
10-25-2007, 09:32 AM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

yeah made the 3 files rar'd then rar'd to a larger file but OPB stated to use 600 Maxmem and 512M fixed page file or you mean maxmem should of been 512 instead of 600 ??

not sure what you mean without showing results.. my results are in that link or you mean showing no improvements in my results ???

Yeah no improvements. If you cannot get it to work, then I'm less likely to be interested, YKWIM?

no, i tihnk all three should be 632MB...pagefile, maxmem, and ramdisk. Even the lack of ramdisk would affect scores signifigantly.

LoL. Hipro...you've been pretty damn impartial all these years..why does that change now?:rofl:
10-25-2007, 09:35 AM
Gautam

XP and 2K3 are virtually equal. RAMDisks etc do not make a significant difference.
10-25-2007, 09:38 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

LoL. Hipro...you've been pretty damn impartial all these years..why does that change now?:rofl:

This is ONLY when I hear/listen to this: "OPB" nickname and nothing more.....
10-25-2007, 09:45 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

XP and 2K3 are virtually equal. RAMDisks etc do not make a significant difference.

What about the memory management system? Server03 was build for servers, so the memory management should be better than XP's, no?
10-25-2007, 10:00 AM
G H Z

True but XP can mimic 2003 memory managment by changing Performance Settings. I still find 2003 to be faster in 32M - even when LSC (Large System Cache) is set on XP.

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