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08-23-2007, 10:10 AM
palese

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternityZX9

I'm having trouble with buidling my new pc. Either I have a bad PSU and/or a bad stick of RAM (or 2) - going to find out for sure this Friday when I have time. :(

But, at least I have it running after about a week of trouble shooting. :)

I'll update this thread once I get settled into my new pc and get all the bugs "ironed" out.(posting from work at the moment and I'm not supposed to be doing that from here!).

Thanks Eternity
08-23-2007, 10:32 AM
aehmkei

Anybody tried a TR IFX-14 yet ?
08-23-2007, 11:30 AM
GameGuru

Simple question, this board or the IP35 Pro for Q6600? How many of you guys are clocking the crap out of the quads? Always loved DFI and I need a P35 based board to go with my Q6600 G0 and Ballistix pc2-8500 tracers.
08-23-2007, 11:49 AM
AndreYang

Dear everyone:

Some CPUs have FSB wall, not only this mobo problem. I hear some people cannot achieve high fsb and complained about this mobo. Why not compare with ASUS or Gigabyte has CPU FSB wall problems?

I ever hand pick 100 pcs+ E6850 ES and retail. They are only 5% for FSB 550+.

30% is not achieved to FSB 500+. Did you think this is bad mobo because NO HIGH FSB for your CPU?

I want to say you need to make sure your cpu could achieve high fsb on other mobo,not only on DFI LP P35-T2R.

Oskar and I test many retail DFI LP P35s, which are over 5 pcs. Every mobo can do FSB 600 on air 32M because I have godly hand pick FSB 600 CPU.

We just make sure retail can do FSB 600, not only sample, but we are wrong. We still hear too many people complain about fsb wall.

Please make sure your cpus can work high fsb on other brand's mobo and DFI cannot work it. I will tell Oskar to slove your problem.

Good Luck

Andre Yang
08-23-2007, 06:13 PM
scwam

Andre, Do you know if the cheaper DFI P35 Infinity Retail is usually able to do above 500 FSB too?
08-23-2007, 06:37 PM
TinTin

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreYang

Dear everyone:

Some CPUs have FSB wall, not only this mobo problem. I hear some people cannot achieve high fsb and complained about this mobo. Why not compare with ASUS or Gigabyte has CPU FSB wall problems?

I ever hand pick 100 pcs+ E6850 ES and retail. They are only 5% for FSB 550+.

30% is not achieved to FSB 500+. Did you think this is bad mobo because NO HIGH FSB for your CPU?

I want to say you need to make sure your cpu could achieve high fsb on other mobo,not only on DFI LP P35-T2R.

Oskar and I test many retail DFI LP P35s, which are over 5 pcs. Every mobo can do FSB 600 on air 32M because I have godly hand pick FSB 600 CPU.

We just make sure retail can do FSB 600, not only sample, but we are wrong. We still hear too many people complain about fsb wall.

Please make sure your cpus can work high fsb on other brand's mobo and DFI cannot work it. I will tell Oskar to slove your problem.

Good Luck

Andre Yang

can't agree any more :yepp:
FSB wall does exist
I have a MB, which can do 500+FSB
A E6600, tested on over 10mobos, all stop at 505FSB
A E6400, on the same MB, does 510FSB, and then stop
Another E6600, on the same MB, 430 can't boot

I then changed to different MBs, same situation but I give my MB to my frd, he did 54XFSB for his CPU :D
08-23-2007, 07:05 PM
erwinz

CPU FSB Wall exist.. :) even when sub zero cooling :)
08-23-2007, 11:58 PM
emoners

Quote:

Originally Posted by aehmkei

Anybody tried a TR IFX-14 yet ?

would the Thermalright IFX-14 be a problem in installing to this board?:confused:
08-24-2007, 01:53 AM
irev210

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreYang

Dear everyone:

Some CPUs have FSB wall, not only this mobo problem. I hear some people cannot achieve high fsb and complained about this mobo. Why not compare with ASUS or Gigabyte has CPU FSB wall problems?

I ever hand pick 100 pcs+ E6850 ES and retail. They are only 5% for FSB 550+.

30% is not achieved to FSB 500+. Did you think this is bad mobo because NO HIGH FSB for your CPU?

I want to say you need to make sure your cpu could achieve high fsb on other mobo,not only on DFI LP P35-T2R.

Oskar and I test many retail DFI LP P35s, which are over 5 pcs. Every mobo can do FSB 600 on air 32M because I have godly hand pick FSB 600 CPU.

We just make sure retail can do FSB 600, not only sample, but we are wrong. We still hear too many people complain about fsb wall.

Please make sure your cpus can work high fsb on other brand's mobo and DFI cannot work it. I will tell Oskar to slove your problem.

Good Luck

Andre Yang

I saw this one coming. Many tests were done showing off DFI FSB was with E6850 E0 ES CPU's. When people test their E6850/E6750/E6550 G0 CPU, they always hit FSB wall.

Get angry at Intel, not the mobo company. DFI shouldnt have let anyone post tests with E0 anyway.
08-24-2007, 03:46 AM
thorgal

Quote:

Originally Posted by scwam

Andre, Do you know if the cheaper DFI P35 Infinity Retail is usually able to do above 500 FSB too?

Please visit Madshrimps.be (in my sig), there's a blood-iron OC test there from windwithme, he has reached some astonishing results with the board...
08-24-2007, 05:55 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by irev210

I saw this one coming. Many tests were done showing off DFI FSB was with E6850 E0 ES CPU's. When people test their E6850/E6750/E6550 G0 CPU, they always hit FSB wall.

Get angry at Intel, not the mobo company. DFI shouldnt have let anyone post tests with E0 anyway.

Those initial tests were all done at DFI with hand selected CPUs, binned memory, engineering BIOS, binned P35 MCH, and under the chiller which will also increase the maximum FSB and CPU clock rates. Regarding the ES samples, same rule applies, you can get binned samples that will break just about any record or you can end up with samples from Intel that will not break 500FSB, much less 475, believe me I know. ;)
08-24-2007, 06:57 AM
CyberDruid

Thanks for all the input!
08-24-2007, 01:33 PM
Raja@ASUS

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

Those initial tests were all done at DFI with hand selected CPUs, binned memory, engineering BIOS, binned P35 MCH, and under the chiller which will also increase the maximum FSB and CPU clock rates. Regarding the ES samples, same rule applies, you can get binned samples that will break just about any record or you can end up with samples from Intel that will not break 500FSB, much less 475, believe me I know. ;)

Yeah 550 is very good retail cpu territory, 600fsb on air is likely to be a 1% affair, unless you go subzero...

I thought it was quite clear that the initial testing used sub zero, but I guess people did not read between the lines and thought all cpu's would do this on air.

Stable I think we are talkiing 500 or so, for those that game and use a pc for more daily tasks. Some may go over that, but usually at the expense of voltages..

regards
Raja
08-24-2007, 02:50 PM
Dale

Anybody know when other etailers might get this board? Thanks.
08-24-2007, 02:57 PM
GameGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale

Anybody know when other etailers might get this board? Thanks.

Great question. I was just searching around with no luck, think I'll take my chances with the IP35 PRO for now although I love DFI :(
08-25-2007, 10:53 AM
Zolly

In the next week or so i want make my order on a G0 6600 + 2Gb Mushkin Xp2-6400 and i want to pair them up whit a Dfi P35, can somebody tell me if this set-up will work with my old psu a Hiper 480W http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=921&page=3
it has a 24 and a 4 pin aux conector not an 8 pin aux conector.
08-25-2007, 12:07 PM
irev210

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

Those initial tests were all done at DFI with hand selected CPUs, binned memory, engineering BIOS, binned P35 MCH, and under the chiller which will also increase the maximum FSB and CPU clock rates. Regarding the ES samples, same rule applies, you can get binned samples that will break just about any record or you can end up with samples from Intel that will not break 500FSB, much less 475, believe me I know. ;)

I know, I've tested lots of G0 ES with much frustration in search of FSB.

Either way, I dont think it makes sense to market the FSB of a board with a CPU that never made it into retail production (E6850 E0).

Not that I care about the results, but you just have people that actually think they can get 550+ FSB. Too many people blame the wrong thing for their poor overclock, just frustrating.

Again, I say blame intel for doing this to us!
08-25-2007, 01:35 PM
RLM

Vdroop Control

I've just swapped from an IP35 Pro to the DFI board.

One of the features I've been looking forward to with the DFI is the vdroop control. Unfortunately I've been pretty disappointed with the results so far. I'm getting about .05 droop to load.

I know DFI's take tinkering with, but I'm thinking to myself that I might have been better of sticking with the IP35 pro and modding it.

Then out of curiosity I've just switched Vdroop Control to Disabled.

A couple of screen grabs. These are with Vcore set to 1.5v in bios. At idle SMG reports 1.52v Q6600 415x9(3737 mhz)

Vdroop control ENABLED???
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7...enabledsb2.jpg

Vdroop control DISABLED
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1...isabledbc1.jpg

Pretty happy with this:) , but I am now interested in how accurate SMG is? Would be nice to find the vdimm and vcore points for reading. The memory vdimm is a concern at the mo. At 2.25v in bios it reads 2.17 in SMG.

Cheers

RLM
08-25-2007, 01:59 PM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by irev210

Either way, I dont think it makes sense to market the FSB of a board with a CPU that never made it into retail production (E6850 E0).

To show the capability of the board I can understand why the ES processor was used. Kinda forced to use whatever cpu has the FSB capability to be able to demonstrate the board's top end.

However a cautionary mention that an individual's ultimate FSB would most likely be dependent on one's cpu would have helped.
08-25-2007, 02:30 PM
Raja@ASUS

thus far most locked multiplier cpu's (using air) are walling on many boards just shy of the 500 fsb mark, some going over just by a fraction.

regards
Raja
08-25-2007, 04:09 PM
Dihon

Quick test with this board :
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1...spi32mbcy4.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=234261
08-25-2007, 05:22 PM
erwinz

DFI should update Smart Guardian.. even on the DFI Infinity P965-S days it reported wrong..
08-26-2007, 03:33 AM
Apollonas

I'm looking really hard to find a good reason to give the extra money to DFI for a board that can do almost the same as any other p35 board.

I know I know, some extra tweaking with memory, but is it really worth it. The IP35 Pro cost 100 euro less than DFI.
08-26-2007, 04:03 AM
Praz

Tuniq Tower/Stock Heatpipe

500FSB DDR2 1200

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/...0fsb600ram.jpg

550FSB

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/.../32m500fsb.jpg
08-26-2007, 06:24 AM
retrospooty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apollonas

I'm looking really hard to find a good reason to give the extra money to DFI for a board that can do almost the same as any other p35 board.

I know I know, some extra tweaking with memory, but is it really worth it. The IP35 Pro cost 100 euro less than DFI.

Its hard to say... If you have ever owned a Lanparty mobo, they are just awesome, more than just specs, they are built very well, with a lot of thought put in to overclovers and what they want. CMOS reloaded and the voltages alone are worth the extra $100 to me. I do understand some other manufacturers offer similar specs, but not as potent. also, if you do have a CPU with a high FSB wall, this mobo will take you higher. If you dont, then its not anything that any mobo company can control. Still DFI has the best options. I just wish they would use colors that don't look like a pimp owns the computer LOL

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