avoid gskill 2GBZX with DS3

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08-08-2006, 02:48 AM
arrakys

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S EUTech

G.Skill European RMA dept. is willing to replace incompatible kits for compatible kits on your mainboard. The only thing you have todo is send a RMA request.

Just like normal RMA, shipment fee is for you. Return replacement will be paid by G.Skill.

Always try your reseller/store first, if that doesn't work out RMA with G.Skill European RMA.

Thanks,

:clap: nice.
08-08-2006, 02:56 AM
davvy76

Thats great but just remember even if they do replace them with nr sticks it still wont work with a conroe in the ds3.
08-08-2006, 03:06 AM
arrakys

Quote:

Originally Posted by davvy76

Thats great but just remember even if they do replace them with nr sticks it still wont work with a conroe in the ds3.

the problem is about ZX and NR sticks. ZX should be replaced with PK and NS by NR. I am wrong ?
08-08-2006, 03:11 AM
davvy76

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrakys

the problem is about ZX and NR sticks. ZX should be replaced with PK and NS by NR. I am wrong ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

DDR2 800 2GBHZ has no problem to boot up auto
DDR2 800 2GBZX has no problem to boot up auto
DDR2 800 2GBNR has no problem to boot up auto

DDR2 800 2GBNS has problem to boot up
DDR2 800 2GBZX has problem to boot up

I thought the zx and the ns were the problematic sticks going by this post so I bought nr, which dont work afterall with my e6300, ds3. Though reading that i'm a little confused because in one sentence he has the zx working fine then at the bottom the zx doesnt work or I missed something.
08-08-2006, 03:16 AM
arrakys

Quote:

Originally Posted by davvy76

I thought the zx and the ns were the problematic sticks going by this post so I bought nr, which dont work afterall with my e6300, ds3. Though reading that i'm a little confused because in one sentence he has the zx working fine then at the bottom the zx doesnt work or I missed something.

It depends on sticks .
For exemple, ZX are design to operate at 2.0-2.1v. as the gigabyte boards will use a 1.9v as default, some "good" kit will post, some won't. But most of ZX kits won't boot using 1.9v.
08-08-2006, 03:21 AM
davvy76

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrakys

It depends on sticks .
For exemple, ZX are design to operate at 2.0-2.1v. as the gigabyte boards will use a 1.9v as default, some "good" kit will post, some won't. But most of ZX kits won't boot using 1.9v.

Ah I see, but it still doesnt explain why NR sticks arent working even when the volts are upped by +.3 in the bios to 2.2v and the timings manually changed to 5-5-5-15. (the only way I could get into the bios was to boot with a stick of generic).
08-08-2006, 04:32 AM
arrakys

Quote:

Originally Posted by davvy76

Ah I see, but it still doesnt explain why NR sticks arent working even when the volts are upped by +.3 in the bios to 2.2v and the timings manually changed to 5-5-5-15. (the only way I could get into the bios was to boot with a stick of generic).

did u test each modules separatly ?
08-08-2006, 04:38 AM
davvy76

Yep, with a single stick windows starts to load and then hangs, dual channel wont even let the pc start.

Same setup with 2 gb's of patriot 667:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9020881

Definitely a ram/mobo compatibility problem.
08-08-2006, 04:41 AM
Lestat

i had the goldt GX XTC 5400 and it booted fine.
but the 5400 is real generic yucky ram. definately not an overclocking ram by anymeans. not overclocking as in dont expect to get over 800 fsb.
but it does go from 667 to 800 so.. take that as you wish.

the gskill ZX i couldnt get stable at 950 no matter what voltage or spd.
take that as you wish also but for ddr800 ram i really expected more from gskill since its 180 bucks. but still not bad ram.
too bad it doesnt boot in this baord.

we need a sticky of what ram boots and what ram doesnt.
08-08-2006, 05:52 AM
davvy76

Well if someone does do a list of working ram they can add kingston 533mhz KVR533D2N4/1G to it, currently running 1gb at 400x7 1:1 5-5-5-15 1.9v, bios f4c.
08-08-2006, 06:24 AM
arrakys

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat

i had the goldt GX XTC 5400 and it booted fine.
but the 5400 is real generic yucky ram. definately not an overclocking ram by anymeans. not overclocking as in dont expect to get over 800 fsb.
but it does go from 667 to 800 so.. take that as you wish.

the gskill ZX i couldnt get stable at 950 no matter what voltage or spd.
take that as you wish also but for ddr800 ram i really expected more from gskill since its 180 bucks. but still not bad ram.
too bad it doesnt boot in this baord.

we need a sticky of what ram boots and what ram doesnt.

do you think a 1.9v capable ZX kit would POST on a DS3/DS4/DQ6 ?
08-08-2006, 06:38 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrakys

do you think a 1.9v capable ZX kit would POST on a DS3/DS4/DQ6 ?

Maybe! I was impressed with the Cheapo RAM LOL! Maybe it is not just the voltage but something to do with the speed as well? I mean if the GS-Tech is right and this CAS4 RAM is trying to run at CAS3, then that would suck.

I too think the Mobo is just as much if not more at fault than the RAM.
08-08-2006, 07:06 AM
arrakys

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnie27

Maybe! I was impressed with the Cheapo RAM LOL! Maybe it is not just the voltage but something to do with the speed as well? I mean if the GS-Tech is right and this CAS4 RAM is trying to run at CAS3, then that would suck.

I too think the Mobo is just as much if not more at fault than the RAM.

tbh, i am a bit confused about giga board and gskill modules behaviour... board booting at 1.9v or 1.9v AND cas3 ?
08-08-2006, 07:17 AM
delas52

I hope the NR works. I RMA'd my NS for the NR. Then I just saw davvy's problem and emailed them but they said not to worry, that the NR definetly works with the DS3, they have tested it.
08-08-2006, 07:24 AM
davvy76

Quote:

Originally Posted by delas52

I hope the NR works. I RMA'd my NS for the NR. Then I just saw davvy's problem and emailed them but they said not to worry, that the NR definetly works with the DS3, they have tested it.

Thats what I thought but if you look at the testing thread they're not using a core 2 duo, which is the only difference regards ram/mobo/cpu I can see:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...55&postcount=6

I really hope it works for you though because its a total pain in the arse when you spend good money on something only for it not to work as
expected.

another user (in the same thread):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...39&postcount=7
08-08-2006, 08:39 AM
gam3r

Can someone confirm that G.Skill PC2-5400 DDR2 LA 2x1GB Works or doesn't?

Thanks
08-08-2006, 08:42 AM
garnin

If it's rated at 1.8 V, it should work fine.

Does anyone know what exactly the difference is between the NS and NR sticks? The ZX and PK? Their specs look exactly the same, but one works and one doesn't. just curious..
08-08-2006, 08:46 AM
delas52

Quote:

Originally Posted by davvy76

Thats what I thought but if you look at the testing thread they're not using a core 2 duo, which is the only difference regards ram/mobo/cpu I can see:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...55&postcount=6

I really hope it works for you though because its a total pain in the arse when you spend good money on something only for it not to work as
expected.

another user (in the same thread):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...39&postcount=7

Well they get my NS ram today. I sent them another email with the links you gave me as well as a link to one of your posts. My E6400 gets here tomrrow and the RAM is already delaying me about a week. If the new RAM I get doesn't even work I would be pretty disturbed.
08-08-2006, 08:50 AM
gam3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by garnin

If it's rated at 1.8 V, it should work fine.

Does anyone know what exactly the difference is between the NS and NR sticks? The ZX and PK? Their specs look exactly the same, but one works and one doesn't. just curious..

Thanks for the reply. Its rated at 1.8-2.0V but when i tried it i could only get it to work in slots 2 and 4 of my DS3 motherboard with the latest bios. When i put it into slots 1 and 3 the pc would just cycle on and off on and off so i am seeking clarification from someone who has used this ram in 1 and 3 or also has had this problem.

Thanks for your time and help.
08-08-2006, 08:58 AM
delas52

Well here is their reply.

Quote:

Hi
I also test F2-6400phu2-2gbnr on DS3 with E6400 and no problem too.

Thank you
GSKILL USA REP

I hope it does.
08-08-2006, 09:02 AM
garnin

Do you know if they'll be posting their finds on the forums anywhere?
08-08-2006, 10:20 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrakys

tbh, i am a bit confused about giga board and gskill modules behaviour... board booting at 1.9v or 1.9v AND cas3 ?

Just as the tech said it changed to cas3. I this is someone else Processor so I didn't have enough time to test as much as I'd like but it enough to know I didn't want the RAM. The board didn't send enough voltage to the RAM so it would just sit there partially started with no video.

If I could do it over again, I'd have gotten mid-ranged DDR2-667. Seeing the Celeron run on one 256MB stick9s0 of DDR2-533 was sweet! Both the AMpro and Generic ran well. So did the PQI DDR2-667, sorry I didn't get the specs of the RAM but I'm sure it was cheap CAS4 5-5-15.
08-09-2006, 09:00 PM
TimothyB

Well I had made the mistake of getting the ZX with my DS3 and the computer didn't post, and I didn't have any spare 240pin ram around and the cheapest stick in town was $60.

I'm atleast glad that this makes it 99% sure why my new pc didn't work.

What happened to you guys with the DS3 and this ram when turning on the computer, would it just sit on with the fans running, or would it endlessly restart?

My system at first would power on for a second, lose power, then come back on and just sit there. I could hold the button for 5 seconds to shutdown and it would not do that 1 second shutdown thing from then on until turning off the psu and pulling the power cable and trying to turn it on again. But after messing with it by disconnecting things and reconnecting and so on before I learned of this ram problem it now just turns, then off, then on, then off, and so on without the cpu fan never getting a chance to spin up.

I'm nervously waiting for some Corsair ram that ZipZoomFly has been processing for 2 days even though I selected overnight, so it won't ship until tomorrow, arriving Firday morning.

I'm so scared of how the system has been running and with no indicating lights on the mobo or beeps I have no idea if something else is wrong.

If I had known ZZF would take so long I would have bought that extra stick of ram to start and test the system and done an exchange with Gskill overtime.
08-09-2006, 09:15 PM
TimothyB

Ah, after checking the FAQ on the DS3 it seems to be normal for various reasons if the mobo seems to restart over and over. I just hope the new ram fixes that.
08-10-2006, 12:01 AM
MustardTheoRy

i just received via UPS; some G.skill 1 Gb x 2, 065-2GBHZ and its sweet!!

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