conroe Xe is not FSB1333 this year

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05-24-2006, 12:07 PM
BrownTown

Yar, poncho was one of the reasons I posted that there would be no HT seeing as he had an XE and works for Intel and said no HT. The problem is that for every 1 person that knows their stuff there are 10 that don't, and if someone makes an offhand comment about something like 'HT2' then there are posts about it in all the hardware boards across the internet. Clearly I know that this is not you fault that there are so many numbnuts around, but at the same time you have to realise that such people exist and try not to start rumors. Certinally we have heard that there is a possibility of SMT in later Conroe designs, but the posts on the subject in this forum seemed to suggest it was on the current XE which we all know is not the case.
05-24-2006, 02:45 PM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLG_Poncho

No... i understand your point completely. My comments refer to THIS THREAD AND TOPIC. You mention my high horse... if fugger can't take a bit of criticism then I would say somebody else in on a high horse. Look... from reading this board the past few weeks, I believe that Fugger knows his :banana::banana::banana::banana:. But he is WRONG on this issue, which is what I was referring to. This "HT2" info is spreading all over the place, I'm just trying to correct some mis-information.

Not directed at you FCG, but those asking for benchmarks.... sorry guys, that's not gonna happen. Posting benchmarks at this time would be going a bit too far for even me.

This is where I posted my build info.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1055342

2.93GHz and NOT 3GHz 333MHz FSB is makes the Xtreme Edition Name BS again in and of itself. Not directed at you personally. Sorry if I sound a disappointed, hehehe! Hey, still E6600 or bust!
05-24-2006, 04:16 PM
Charles Wirth

End this guys.

Current 2.93XE will not have HT. True statement.

Future CPU's specs can and do change.

If information is incorrect there is a more polite way of getting your message across. What is obvious is that if you were in the know in Intel you would know who I am and what I do.

Poncho, please clean up your posting style here. Not a good start but nothing that we cannot get over.
05-24-2006, 04:38 PM
Charles Wirth

We were expecting the 3.33GHz part with 2 physical and 2 logical cores = HT enabled. I was not going by previous generations of EE and XE having HT. We al know now that has changed as well, no 3.33 till 2007??

We also know that the set range of processors was switched around to a non HT enabled CPU as the XE.

As you know "evidence" is NDA and most likely doesnt exist in public domain. I cannot link internal Intel tech docs, nor would I.

"comon man" Stop trying to call people out, very tacky.

If the 3.33 has HT on release can we give you a swift kick in the nads? If it doesnt, then props on being correct.
05-24-2006, 04:47 PM
Charles Wirth

We know current XE has no HT. We confirmed that already when they switched around the product line. We have had CPUID info.

I guess some would be mislead by this thread but this was started before we knew of the marketing changes.
05-24-2006, 05:10 PM
p360stick

how much performance difference from FSB 1066 to 1333?

can you change the FSB on the Conroe XE?
can you change the FSB on the regular conroe?
05-24-2006, 05:16 PM
MnM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p360stick

how much performance difference from FSB 1066 to 1333?

can you change the FSB on the Conroe XE?
can you change the FSB on the regular conroe?

Conroe does not have FSB. FSB is on your motherboard. And yes you can change it on the motherboard.
05-24-2006, 05:22 PM
p360stick

thanks, i'll probably just get a regular conroe and using the extra $ for a better PSU, memory, hardrive etc.

how about the 2mb cache and 4 mb cache?
05-24-2006, 05:31 PM
hicookie

ok, sent one to "someone" he will bench it in few days:banana:

;) now Xe is 2.93G "XE6800"
05-24-2006, 05:45 PM
hicookie

BTW, intel retail will delay...not july, soon will be Aug.
05-24-2006, 07:43 PM
metro.cl

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

ok, sent one to "someone" he will bench it in few days:banana:

;) now Xe is 2.93G "XE6800"

hope you got my address ok :)
05-24-2006, 07:53 PM
ethernal

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

BTW, intel retail will delay...not july, soon will be Aug.

Do you know why?

Not doubting the statement, just curious as to the reason behind it. Poorer than expected yields, larger pre-launch stocks, poor binning.. what? o.O
05-24-2006, 08:25 PM
Fuji

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethernal

Do you know why?

Not doubting the statement, just curious as to the reason behind it. Poorer than expected yields, larger pre-launch stocks, poor binning.. what? o.O

I think it has to do with the expected demand. Conroe is going to be a VERY powerful CPU and will be priced very competitvely.
05-24-2006, 08:52 PM
metro.cl

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethernal

Do you know why?

Not doubting the statement, just curious as to the reason behind it. Poorer than expected yields, larger pre-launch stocks, poor binning.. what? o.O

bad am2 performance maybe
05-24-2006, 10:24 PM
Nanometer

1333FSB sounds nice to me. I read a couple months ago that 1600FSB is slated somtime in the future. I wish I saved it, I doubt I will find it again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLG_Poncho

Agree with you completely here. Extreme Editions always offered something, besides clock speeds, that the others didn't. More Cache, Higher FSB, HT, etc. Really... there is little point other than bragging rights. :D

Yea, everyone remembers the first extreme edition. Double the price for 1% increase in performance. It was an insult. It's nice to know that the future Extreme Editions will bring somthing more than useless L3 cache for gamers and benchers. Everyone will enjoy the increased FSB :).
05-25-2006, 04:21 AM
Vric

Quote:

Originally Posted by p360stick

thanks, i'll probably just get a regular conroe and using the extra $ for a better PSU, memory, hardrive etc.

how about the 2mb cache and 4 mb cache?

If I remember correctly, 2mb is only 1 core... So you definitely want the 4Mb one (anyway the first one is quite cheap)

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

BTW, intel retail will delay...not july, soon will be Aug.

There we go.. delay start... It's bad news for us that don't have ES chip to play with :p:
05-25-2006, 05:38 AM
hicookie

and........:rolleyes:

ths year the highest spec is "X6800"(2.93G) intel named it.

and 2007Q1 first coming will be kentsfield (2.4G Quadcores);) ←i already seen ths chip.:D
05-25-2006, 04:31 PM
theteamaqua

wow hicookie u were right, i was shocked when i opened fiiefox and browse through x-bit lab today, it says Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 is 2.9 Ghz !!!!
05-25-2006, 04:37 PM
Schlotkins

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

and........:rolleyes:

ths year the highest spec is "X6800"(2.93G) intel named it.

and 2007Q1 first coming will be kentsfield (2.4G Quadcores);) ←i already seen ths chip.:D

Wow that's cool - any idea what the kentsfield will run?

Also, hicookie, you seem to be in the know. Will woodcrest not work with the current 771 socket boards? Cheers!

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