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Does anyone know the test conditions that AMD uses? What kind of cooler do they use on the chips? A stock AMD heatsink/fan? So if my TCaseMax is 57C thats the max temp the chip reached during their testing procedure at stock speeds?Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
This .pdf may be of some use to those who are new to cbid.
http://cbid.amdclub.ru/pdf/cbidfaq.pdf
i now officially announce that the theaory about with higher TCaseMAx the better O/Cer is 100% true
and the proof:
first i owned a 0551 ccbwe 165 , was able to do 2.52GHz @ 1.4v, 2.2GHz @ 1.225v
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2601.38 (289.04 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts
now i got the cance to replace it with a 0609 ccb1E and it is now stable @ 2.4GHz @ 1.15V ONLY and still going up
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2403.55 (267.06 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 105.0 Watts
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 3000.73 (300.07 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 50.0 Watts
CACJE 0603FPMW
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2800.73 (280.07 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 71C
TDP: 89.0 Watts
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2.8ghz stock vcore
2.9ghz 1.39v
2.95ghz 1.43v
3.0ghz 1.47v (PWMIC = toasting)
XP-120 + San Ace
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2820.41(282.04 x 10.0)
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 69C
TDP: 84.4 Watts
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2.7ghz stock vcore
2.8ghz 1.37v
2.9ghz 1.45v
2.95ghz 1.5v
@ Tower 120
Venice in idle:
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/4344/caset8re.jpg
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2700.70 (300.08 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 75.0 Watts
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2.6Ghz @ stock
2.7Ghz @ 1.45V
this is my venice E6 3000+, its kinda strange, before i took the ihs off the tcase is 55c and tdp arroun 38c, after ihs off, this is what happened, actually no gain in oc after ihs off (tcase increase).... :(
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3...case1ya.th.jpg
Heres my 4400..
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2615.64 (237.79 x 11.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 75.0 / 46.9 Watts
Its got a weird stepping too: ADA4400DAA6CD CCBWE 0528MPM 4403998J50015. It looks like its missing a W or something after 0528MPM, but thats exactly how it is on the ihs.
can anyone mail me the newest one, since i cant enter the website...
my email:
andresoriton(at)gmail(dot)com
thx...
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2800.64 (280.06 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 71C
TDP: 89.0 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
seems i have an awesome cpu. i knew it already but this verifies it. btw, that core temp program shows my core 0 idle around 31c and core 1 idle around 38c. load temps are both 50-51c.
supertimor, i guess they give us Canadians the hotter cpus to keep us warmer. :)
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 4F, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 40FF2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 FX-4400+ (Unknown)
CPU Speed: 2906.26 (264.21 x 11.0)
Revision:
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.100v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
Processor is wrong...I have a 3500 Orleans and VCore is wrong, I'm at 1.55 and Socket is wrong, I'm AM2 and I can't get TDP...my MaxTCase rating looks low! Makes sense...my clocks aren't making me happy, lol
:confused: So the TCaseMax and TDP values can change? I thought those values were written in the CPU at the factory and will never change.Quote:
Originally Posted by andre X_X
I have to announce cancelation of this program in favour of Core Temp.
AMD64 TCaseMax only works on RevE chips. As Core Temp now supports all K8 chips, I added the code to it. So when you run the program it will show you your TCaseMax and TDP.
Core Temp
startup VCore I assume means minimum voltage for the thing to POST? Since my Vcore is currently set to 1.5v
and 55*C seems awefully low :confused: could this be somehow related to my limit of 2.86GHz? I'm not near that temp but I wonder, after reading some of the posts in this thread.
hmm...
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2860.06 (260.01 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 38.2 Watts
the hotter but also the better :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by cujo
I'm sorry, but how do two chips prove a theory? All you proved is that your two chips are different. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying you can't prove anything according to just two different chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaFrOuT
Within a core, it does seem to hold true.
my 4400+ does 2.9ghz @ 1.65v...57c max 73w tdp.
my 170 does 3.0ghz @ 1.525...61c max 95w tdp.
my 3800+ does 2.85ghz @ 1.6v...63c max 65.6w tdp
my 148 does 3.1ghz @ 1.6v...67c max 73w tdp.
my dualcores hold the trend, as do most others listed here. Singlecores deserve thier own comaprison as well, and really i think it should be broken down to 512k and 1mb parts too. You also need to keep in mind that max clocks acheived are only really comparable with same mobo/mem, so everything here you see you must take with a grain of salt.
have u been watching this thread from the startQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Sz
read all of the replies and u will see the exact results with everyone else higher MAx Tcase == higher O/C @ low or stock voltage
did you even read what I wrote?
He said he can OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCE that maxtcase theory is TRUE cause of HIS OWN TWO chips.
yeah, officially for himself. This dude some authority to you or something, that you take it personal?:stick:
Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
Thanks :)
i think it is very clear that i mean that this theory is 100% true for my personnal results plus all of the other results in this thread
Haven't seen any Opteron 152's here yet. This one's a CABCE 0512UPMW I just picked up from Monarch.
Nice program, thanks! :)
Oops, there's Core Temp now!
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 3033 (337 x 9.0)
Revision: JH-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 85.0 Watts
.:a BEAST:.
no wonder it does 2.9 at stock voltage :)
latest screenshot 336x9 1.57v
http://weboperative.com/gallery/qdig...per-166ram.png
Hey guys, I have a question regarding my temps and overclock.
TCase Max (v1.19) shows that tcasemax is 59°C (fx60).
Is this is the same temp as reported by Everest for cpu (not the cpu0 and cpu1)? I've looked through many forums and topics, however - just want to make sure I understood things right *or wrong :)
You can see all the info on attached screenshot (also ran orthos 17hours+ stable, please note my temps in everest - are they ok?)
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7...uidina8.th.jpg
My question would be - should I push the cpu a lil further (also raise voltage a bit)? Or temps are already high enough, and I should go for better cooling first?
p.s. orthos ran was made in a hot summer day, I think room temp was ~25°C
thx