Hahah man you killing me ;) I'm trying to get my stable at 2,8ghz now :) Will work my way up there even if it takes me a month :D
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Hahah man you killing me ;) I'm trying to get my stable at 2,8ghz now :) Will work my way up there even if it takes me a month :D
On a Hyper6 ;) (I'm sure I've posted these pics beforem but maybe not in this thread :p: )
http://img281.echo.cx/img281/4245/10x290spi32m0fb.jpg
Damn that's nice!
Now I'll talk to OPB and ask for you adress and then you will wake up tomorrow without your Venice :) I might take the heatsink aslo hehe.
Hell, if you can make it halfway around the world in less than one day's notice just to take a cpu, you would have definately earned in :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
No I will send my secret agent, 0064 :D
NiCKE^ what is your cooling and stable oc for now ?
I have same apqw 0484 with stock hs and cant stabilize it 9x300 @ 1.5v-1.65v
It's like a wall...Am I missing something ?? running dfi ultraD 414-1
thanks :)
0484 is the batch number? 9x300 @ 1.45 24/7 SLK948U+Vantec Tornado @ 5v.
yes
Well I dont think it's a T° issue regarding my bad results but I'm waiting for a xp90c.
My 3200 0517BPEW doesn't oc well too !
I'm so lucky...
Gotta be some explaination about it. But if you uses the stock HSF you might should wait before clocking ;)
I hope
maybe my 20 pins 350w enermax
Can be the reason why. If you don't get it to work just add me on icq or msn and I will try to help out.
Thanks ;)
I added you in my msn contacts
you guys just doing superpi....which means nada.....
try S&M 100% load and long .....or prime small with 3dmark2001 all in once :D
Looking damn good Overcrash!
Vroom I didn't get any message about it, are sure you added?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
:slapass:
if u can play games stably or do anything else perfectly fine, forget prime :p: :p: :p: :p:
Hehe ;) SPI 1M is fun :)
Nada is all relative ;) And yeah, staring at a computer for 24 hours watching prime 95 run isn't exactly what I'd consider exciting.... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Absolutely. So many other things you can do in the meantime. :)
Looks like my 3000+ 0517BPEW is getting better and better.
Had it running CPU Burn-in last night at 2700, 1.488V.
Has been running Prime for 5 1/2 hours now at 2755Mhz, 1.488V.
Leaving CPU Burn-in run all night now at the same speed.
2.8Ghz should be possible, more would be even better.
It's funny to have Vapo's front+rear fans at 100% and sleep in same room to get 24h shot of Prime :hehe:
Not funny, more like windy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dani
3Ghz in water :banana: just with 310 BIOS i'm verry happy :banana: :banana: :banana:
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...able+graph.jpg
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...7-CPUGraph.gif
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...7-VoltCore.gif
now testing prime :D
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by overcrash86
I got my 3200+ SP8M stable 3103MHz 1.5V :)
good :) with phase change ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
i'vent seen any other 3Ghz watercooled was i first :confused: :banana:
Yes with Vapo, I think 3110MHz is the last stable SP8M with 1.5V
Ouh, got to sleep now..
BTW, dont know about WC WR :rolleyes:
I use only ZM7700CU, Vapo and CO2 :woot:
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...z1.696v7H8.jpg
with 0.02v added :D
that was OCCT test not torture yes?
I hate you all guys with damn good proc...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :P
Me i can't hit even 2900.....around 315*9 at 1.55v :(....maybe poor cooling ?
<- still at 2600 no matter the voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Something *really* weird happened yesterday tho, I got it stable at 7*370 (2590) for 13 hours prime95, at 1.33 volts, but then when I woke up I got a black screen in my face... According to prime95 logs it died somewhere between 6:15 and 6:30 AM :(
Edit: http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65133
Just got this..
Results later.
Batch number pretty high..hope it gonna fly cos that's nice stepping :toast:
Got almost the same chip as you Fosco:
ADA3200DAA4BP
LBBLE 0518APDW
Z644626E52571
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../Venice/30.jpg
Vcore in Windows and SuperPi8M stable with 3200+ 0517BPEW
* 1.5V 3103MHz
* 1.55V 3156MHz
* 1.6V 3201MHz
So 0.05Vcore and ~50MHz SuperPi8M stable, most test 1.7V ~3.3GHz :D
But that will be tomorrow :nono:
It needs alot volt.. 1.616v @ 2650 atm.. testing 32MQuote:
Originally Posted by Dani
Tried to use multi 9 at that speed? Might not work because of the high HTT you will need to get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by AllBrain
I'm just getting started with my new Venice 3200+. I removed the IHS put my Zalman CNPS7700 on and fired up. 2.6 with standard voltage 1M is possible, so I'm going for higher vcore and clocks now. So far I'm priming at 2.75ghz with 1.648v
ADA3200DAA4BP
LBBLE 0517APRW
Z641354D50703
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
for air its a very good result ;)
buy a H2O cooling oder improve your zalman(i did it you must only do 2 80mm fans at the sides :) )
i hope i can get 3000 mhz stable with my 0517 dpmw :cool:
we will see...... :slobber:
@sai
freundliche anrede bei deiner location :slap:
Would a 9 multiplier make a difference? :confused:Quote:
Tried to use multi 9 at that speed? Might not work because of the high HTT you will need to get there.
no it woudn´t;)
why:confused:
NiCKE^ asked me first. :D I have no idea. Did find something funny. Was stuck at 2.75 Ghz and then decided to take the CPU and the memory out the equation by dropping the multiplier and using a divider. Then I upped the FSB to over 300 and my system still work. After that I tried to overclock further than 2.75 Ghz and I got to 2.83 Ghz. No idea what my tests changed. :confused:
i know;)
its my opinion;)
i benched @ 2772 but i can´t get under 30s with my venice:(
AllBrain, you will get higher memory frequency but that might don't give you any performance boost.
Now I see what you mean. My memory is already uisng a divider, so I will not be using a lower multiplier. Thanks anyway... :)Quote:
AllBrain, you will get higher memory frequency but that might don't give you any performance boost.
You shouldn't use divider if you can run without it ;) How good is the Ballistix?
Have to try another bios.. 510-2 atm.. gonna try 310pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dani
166div doesn`t work..
It needs alot of voltage it seems..
0518APMW
Those 0518's are lookin' just like my 0516EPKW.....I need 1.72v for 2.7GHz, and can't get any farther then that on air cooling. However, dropping the comp in the freezer for 15-20C load temps pushes me to about 2.9GHz with only about the same voltage...so it's good to know it's just temps holding me back and it would be worth throwing a Pelt or Phase at this thing. :)
Tried to use cpu burn-in and then lower vcore a little bit Cornelious?
Anyone have 3200+ 0518 APAW ?
How exactly does this work ? Run Burn-in for xx hours and then lower the vcore ? Or while burning ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
Get your vcore as low as possible, i.e. where prime95 fails (within a couple of minutes), and run CPU Burn-in with error checking disabled. Rinse and repeat for as long as possible, you'll probably not notice any good results within a week even if you're running it every night.
I noticed results within 6 hours ;)
Yeah burning takes usually 48hrs maximum :p:
Nice stepping is much more important than nice batch number ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
Yeah but there seems to be, uh, two kinds of burn in. One kind that helps even when running i.e. prime95, and one that you need to force the chip to barely run (too little voltage) and do that for a long period.
I'm curious to know who has chips that are temperature limited and who has chips that are simply limited by a wall, because i think i am the owner of one of the latter types.
Have you tried a different mobo? It may not be your cpu ;) My 3200+ 0515 apaw definately wasn't limited by a "wall" :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
[offtopic]
Were can I measure Vcore on my DFI nF4?
[/offtopic]
No, i haven't. And i saw your APAW, one of the best overclocks in these threads btw, gave me even greater expectations for mine. That's why i made a post about a week ago, explaining my "wall" in great detail to determine if it was the chip or "something else" (possibly the mobo as you commented). However, the results were breif and to the point: "Your chip has hit its limit, live with it" and so i did. I would like to try another motherboard but i don't have money bursting out of my pockets... i would have LOVED to use the DFI NF4 UltraD, however i have an AGP graphics card and it doesn't suit me to get a new PCI-E card. Anyone want to let me borrow a board? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Sorry I must have missed your plea for help earlier :p: I also was in the same predicament when I previewed one of the first venice cpu's, but in the end I broke down and picked myself up a DFI board. TBH, it's been one of the biggest PIA's I've ever owned, but in the end there's no other board like it on the market when it runs right.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
No I haven't.....I might try to give it a shot. I did notice that after messing with the overclock for long enough I did start to see some gains, hitting some of the lower OC's at slightly lower voltages....but I haven't done any actual burning in with this thing. I was gonna put my comp back in the freezer to emulate some Peltier load temps on the chip to see how much past 2.9Ghz I can hit...but on second thought.....might just get to that point with the cpu where Prime fails in a couple minutes and push it for a good couple days solid.Quote:
Tried to use cpu burn-in and then lower vcore a little bit Cornelious?
Is this the kind of thing where (to a certain degree) you could find that point, burnin for 2 or 3 days straight.....and slowly move up the vcore by .025v and hit a new limit and burn in for a few more days, and get a little farther...or is this a sort of one time thing that needs to just be done once at that low vcore limit?
Again, I haven't taken the time to burn my chip in (properly) but as of now I'm merely temperature limited. I can do 300x9 1:1 at 1.72v in windows.....and hit 320x9 1:1 for roughly 2.9GHz at the same voltage or slightly less with my load temps down about 20-25C in the freezer. I'm gonna start on some proper burnin tonight to see how much more I can squeeze out of this thing.Quote:
I'm curious to know who has chips that are temperature limited and who has chips that are simply limited by a wall
You know, I just noticed that you guys are placing a lot of emphasis on temps rather than voltages. I'll tell you right now, that's the wrong way to think. If you're gonna kill a cpu, it will be more likely that it will die because of too high a Vcore as opposed to too high of a temp. Yes, the two are related, but think of it this way - I've managed to kill a couple of cpu's: one under a 226W pelt @ -20C and one under a mach2 @ -40C......
Here is my results for today with 0517 BPEW 0057:
- 1.50V 3103MHz
- 1.55V 3156MHz
- 1.60V 3201MHz
- 1.65V 3231MHz
- 1.70V 3246MHz <-- I stopped here, gonna sleep now...
Screenshot from 3246MHz SP8M with Cpu-Z ID :)
BTW, pretty happy with that chip, works great, hope it gonna fly under DI..
Here is my new container, Monster of copperness
All cpu's will have different tolerances, but I'd say 1.7 would be pushing it for 24/7 use for most Venice cores. Of course there will be a few exceptions, but for the most part I'd only experiment in the 1.7 - 1.75 range for short benches. Temps are something that become relative from core to core - Just take a look at the clawhammer 3500+'s. Those things run hot enough to cook an egg on, but that's just how hot they're supposed to run......Quote:
Originally Posted by SillySider03
I dunno, depends on how "long term" you're talking about I guess...I see a lot of people with Venice, Winny, and FX chips running at 1.8v or so.....Quote:
Originally Posted by SillySider03
Woa....whose got their venices @ 1.8? I don't think I've even seen 1 person. Sure as hell, I was even too scared to push that much Vcore into my 3200+ :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelious0_0
Wel, depending on what kind of cooling you're dealing with, and how sensitive your chip is to votlages...that extra voltage might come into play. I can run SuperPi 32M at 300x9 at 1.72v in windows.....but in the end, I have to push it to 1.792v in windows for 302x9.....but it's temperature dependant, because in the freezer at 15-20C load temps, i can do 2.85GHz+ at 1.72v easily.....Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Ummm, so you're saying that @ 1.792Vcore, you're able to run your venice @ 2 more FSb than @ 1.72? If it was me, I don't think it would be worth risking a cpu for that 18 mhz. (And also, that 2 extra fsb could have been due to other factors besides your additional vcore.) Yes, an OC has something to do with temps in relation to Vcore, but even @ low temps, too much Vcore can still kill a cpu. Please don't say that you've seen "many" venices @ 1.8 cuz there are some people that will try that just because they read that. BTW, this was the max stable vcore I with my cpu:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelious0_0
http://img215.echo.cx/img215/548/10x3309ye.jpg
I was told (but don't know if its true or not) that for chips made on IBM's strained sillicone process raising the vcore 0.1v above what they are designed for halves the chips lifetime. Is this true becuase if it is then nearly all our venices are going to die pretty soon :stick:
Nice bro.....yeah, now that I've done my half-assed burn-in and BIOS work I'm gonna put my comp back in the freezer tonight. Having it in the deepfreeze emulates very closely the temps I'd be hitting with a nice sized Pelt.....and before I had done any of this work, and with weird memory timings, I was able to do about 2.86GHz at 1.72v.....now I need less voltage for my OC's and have much more stability all the way up to 300x9....so we'll see if I can get in some 1M runs at 2.9GHz+ tonight to see what I'd gain from the Pelt setup and how much the temps effect my OC now that I've worked with things more.
I doubt it, but it's tough to say.....these chips haven't been around long enough for people to realise the actual FULL lifetime of them with stock voltage....considering most CPU's are sposed to last years and years...so we'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackjok3r
How exaclty do you burn in a venice?? Im curious.. did it improve your overclock? Give me the details of what to do, worth a shot me thinks.
It basically came after I had done a LOT of 32M testing at different clock speeds, scaling from 205htt all the way up to 300....redoing many of them along the way as they would sometimes fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4rory
Can't say it really gained me a lot of OC....but I never took the time to do much "before" testing. I did end up needed less voltage for my overclocks though.
I'm starting at 290x9 (where I KNOW is very stable) with 1.72v in windows.....going to run Prime for an hour, step down .025v, run another hour.....get to the lowest stable voltage, and then run Prime whenever i can on and off, until i can take the time to run it for 48 hours straight...and then I'll bump the HTT by 1. Each time, I will run Prime on and off whenver I can, until i can take the time to run a full 48 hours, essentially burning in the chip at the lowest possible voltage, at each 1htt increment possible....I'm gonna have this chip for awhile, might as well use the time to milk it for everything I can. :)
3200+ LBBLE 0517APRW - 2760 Mhz 1.65V AIR
That bastard thing doesn't get any higher, I tried burning it in the whole night, didn't gain me anything. I want 2800Mhz so bad. :mad:
AIR cooling roxxx, my old 0517BPDW with ZM7700CUQuote:
Originally Posted by sai
yeah great but mine won't get that high :rolleyes:
Does running your graphics card in SLI configuration reduces the processsor's max overclock? Earlier this week when I was using only one 6800Ultra I can prime for over 4 hours at 2.84Ghz but when I tried priming again today with two cards prime failed after about 40 minutes......
All I can say (after not having run SLI) is that I have heard people mentioning that it does effect things.Quote:
Originally Posted by arj
Here´s my 3000+ Venice 0516 CPGW @ 306fsb x 9 1:1 2,5-3-3-6Best mem score so-far
Max screenie: 2976Mhz
Max screenie so-far
- had it to 330fsb = 3003Ghz but rebooted as i was about to save the pic!! :confused:
Cool, but you either have some memory timing "issues" or I'm not the only one seeing abnormally lower bandwidth numbers out of this thing. Friend of mine said he had been barely cracking 8k at 300x9 with his winny...and I'm a good 200-300 MB/s off from that mark still...i dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by o27
Yeah been thinking about that too - but have no clue why the scores are that "low"
I'm still determined to figure out what exactly it is. I had heard some people saying that the memory controller was "laxed" on the Venice to make it more capable, which in turn (could have) resulted in a drop in bandwidth of 200-300MB/s...but I'm not sure if I buy that yet, cus I've seen people run tests comparing the two cores at the same clocks...hitting the same scores.Quote:
Originally Posted by o27
Hmmm sounds weird?! But if You or anyone else finds a solution please pm then;-)
Will do.....Quote:
Originally Posted by o27
Now, back to the results...anyone else coming home with some 0518's?
2nd 3000+ Venice 0516 GPAW on 2nd DFI NF4 SLI-D
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/rigs/2/RIG2_002.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/rigs/2/RIG2_024.jpg
:D
System:
3000+ Venice LBBLE 0516 GPAW
Corsair Hydrocool 200 water cooled cpu
DFI NF4 SLI-D 414-3
1x eVGA 6800U PCI-E
2x512MB Gskill PC4400LE TCCD 431
160GB Seagate 7200.7 NCQ SATA on SATA3
LiteOn 48x24x48 CD burner
550W GTR 38A/12v single rail psu
WinXP PRO SP2
both systems using 6.53 remix chipset drivers
Used clockgen but didn't update cpu in MBM5
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...8x_4x/cpuz.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...lidated_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...superpi-1m.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...superpi-8m.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...ark04_5689.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...uperpi-32m.jpg
above is all 1T but weird with 2T i can run cpu benchable with much lower vcore!
Kinda what I've seen...if someone is fighting with their ondie controller, they might end up feeding the CPU more voltage to get it to comply. Running your ram at 2t might be (in turn) easing up on your mem controller enough to warrant a lower vcore...tough to say, but that's my guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
I'm happy though, even though I need some nicer cooling to get this thing to clear 2.7GHz (300x9)...my memory controller is stellar, I gain little/nothing out of kicking in any dram ratios. I was hoping early on to gain a little more on the CPU with the 9/10 or 5/6 dividers in place...but no such thing happened. Bad news in the sense that I don't get that CPU boost I wanted, but good to know that if my chip won't do it at 1:1 then it won't do it at all.....so far, we'll see at some higher htt's when I step up the cooling.
I second that.....say, have you tried running at something like 325x8 to see if your ram will do 1:1 at those speeds...or is it just the controller holding you back from 322 1:1 for that 2,898MHz? Just wondering, cus I can do 1M (at the very least) at up to about 335x8 1:1, and I'm looking forward to getting some cooling in place to see if I can match those memory clocks with a 2.9 - 3GHz core clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by SillySider03
yeah love my ram cooler.. need more powerfull 60mm fans for better air hehe
my Gskill PC4400LE only do 290-296mhz 2.5-3-3-7 and 294-296mhz 2.5-4-3-7 1T on these venices on clawhammer cpu the same ram does 305mhz 2.5-4-3-7 heh
Weird....ah well, me likes me ram.....300x9 1:1 2.5-3-3-7 1t and 335x8 1:1 2.5-4-3-7 1t so far...lovin' the GSkill. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
It's not easy cracking 8000 with a x9 multiplier. Bandwidth effifciency improves as your multiplier increases. @ x10, it's much easier ;) :Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelious0_0
BTW, you can't compare 2x256 to 2x512....
http://img220.echo.cx/img220/5128/10x3105bv.jpg
So far my LE 440 is ok to 306Mhz 1:1 2,5-3-3-6 but that only gives me around 7550mb/s with divider and 326fsb (ram 299,6mhz) 3,5-3-3-6 i get 78xx mb/shttp://www.upitfree.dk/upload/files/...0_memscore.JPG
Is it possible that i just have a shot memory controller? i see other people with Neo2s clocking well, and when i run 1T my max stable clock goes up a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
also my friend has a DFI Ultra D, maybe i can convince him to let me have some time with it ;)
Has anyone gotten a LBBLE 0518DPAW chip? I just got that retail today. Curious to know its potential. :-P Just gotta wait for my ocz 600 watt to come in.
as said before i must admit it´s most about luck more than on stepping IMHO. I´ve never heard about my stepping before i got it. Only that 0516 should be poor oc´er - well mines definately not one of those;-)
So just go for it - otherwise you can just return it to the shop or sell it again for almost new price on-line
Sorry to say but I've had two 0518s and two 0516s and neither of the 18s could hang with the 16s, not even close. Both 16s could prime at/or over 2.7GHz but couldn't get the 18s to prime over 2.5GHz with teh same voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpoverlord
got ya I will definitely just have to sit and wait until it comes in
WOHOO, 1.34Vcore :D
3200+ 0517BPEW
http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/DFI%20nF...34V%20SP8M.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
ummm ok, thats just not fair :stick:
Venice 3000+
ADA3000DAA4BP
LBBLE 0516 DPJW
Z637978D50537
http://img242.echo.cx/img242/8223/untitled6fw.jpg
http://img113.echo.cx/img113/146/untitled9ge.th.jpghttp://img126.echo.cx/img126/6360/everest24ac.th.jpghttp://img203.echo.cx/img203/617/sandracpu5mz.th.jpghttp://img203.echo.cx/img203/2274/sa...mory4ev.th.jpg
Lbble 0517 Dpmw