Heres the latest with blues....vid.card on hi performance on AA/AF-1280x1024
http://img259.echo.cx/img259/9062/allopen2tv.jpg
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Heres the latest with blues....vid.card on hi performance on AA/AF-1280x1024
http://img259.echo.cx/img259/9062/allopen2tv.jpg
Nice indeed!
I traded my Gskills in for €240 + 2*256mb Corsair LL v1.1 BH5 chips, so now I'm looking for a 2*512 replacement :D
Does anyone know where to find the matched 1gb kit in Europe? www.cheeep.de has OCZ VX for €177, Twinmoss UTT for €120 and Mushkin Blue Line 512mb blocks for €66 a piece.
Nonetheless I'd like matched pair :)
I bought mine from outpost.com who ships international, $119USD a matched pair, plus airbourne courier, plus customs and taxes(if applicable).Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliette
I picked up 2 single 512 sticks from Outpost about 3 weeks ago. I recieved a Green PCB and a Black PCB.
looking at the markings from the top Looks like the Green one is the New UTT and the Black is the old BH5. The spacing on the silver dots are different further appart on the chips on the green PCB.
Both sticks togather will run 5,2,2,2.0 215FSB 3.2V and 6,3,3,2.5 240FSB 3.2V
They did get a tad warm so I gettoed a fan inplace.
Pic below Green PCB (right) Black PCB (left)
http://www.polarscomputers.com/DFI/Picture%20383.jpg
http://www.polarscomputers.com/DFI/Picture%20384.jpg
I got mine delivered last week and they are both green PCB with B6U815 on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bypolar
I use XP120 heat sink and 120mm Panaflow (adjusted to 70% speed so they are real quiet), and that is enough to keep them warm, but not hot. I'll try your timing to see if I can get 240fsb.
got mine running at 220 2X512 2 2 2 5 timings 3.4 volts
I need some help
I bought 2x512mb Muhskin cas2 128x64 --> OUTPOST
They are at 119$, but i have seen another 2x512mb Mushkin cas2 64x64, but they are 219$, here. Did i order the correct ones???
I am from Spain and it will not be easy if i have to returned them, i have ordered 2 of them (total of 262$ --> ~200€)...
@HitMaker: Yes, you have the right ones. They should be BH-UTT.
Thanks man, i had read the entire thread but i was not sure..Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Hope they reach 260 (now i am running at 260x10 1:1 1.36V with my TCCD dimms ;))
I will post the results :banana:
Funny because I bought two sticks at the same time you did and got the same thing. One black, one green.Quote:
Originally Posted by bypolar
I left everything on AUTO and raised the fsb to 240x10 LDT4 vcore 1.5 @ 110% (1.65v) and vdimm 3.4v (active cooling similar to yours except I removed the heatsinks and my fan is mounted on a bracket and blows across the length of the ram.) Once I go above 243 my only hitch is I get not exact in round errors on SuperPi. I can remedy that by lowering the multi to 9:10 and then I can continue to raise the fsb. Once I hit 250 I have to raise the vcore which I am not too thrilled at doing any more than I have to. I am happy with 245 at the moment though.
My order has been cancelled :confused: :( , i dont understand, i hope they give me an explanation, they have an international shipment for nothing :stick:
Any other store there that send to Europe??
Thanks a lot.
You can try order it from Bushkin.com, but I do not know if they ship international, if not, maybe they can refer you to some store in Europe.
@HitMaker: It seems that Outpost.com has recently cancelled several international orders without any given reason.
They don't even seem to know what "Verified by Visa" means.
I will not bother to place an order with them. :shakes:
I ordered 2x512mb from outpost, and they've sent them to me in the uk. Only thing is I'm not sure if I wanted to risk it with them, and did send them a message asking them to cancel my order, and I was going to get twinmos bh5 here in the uk. But they've been sent now, so lets hope customs don't pop up the cost, and that they perform well.
Try www.cheeep.de
Though UTT is not guaranteed! Otherwise look for Twinmos BH5, they go for €71 a stick ;)
What memory is it? http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushki...ct/View/991429 ??
it's blue but placed in "Hi-Performance" category and it's 2-3-2 :rolleyes:
Got my Mushkin Blue from Outpost/Frys today (finally after ordering it friday and requesting next day shipping/saturday delivery). Results arent good :(
http://www.davidandjemma.com/images/...T/100_3369.JPG
http://www.davidandjemma.com/images/...T/100_3374.JPG
System specs are in sig. Running processor at 11x200 for testing. B6U815 PCB on both sticks (green)
Popped them in, 3.0V and 2-2-2-10. 3 errors in test 4, a bunch in test 5. Stopped it there...
Ok. That's no good. Reboot.
3.0V and 2-3-2-10. Test 4 has 1 error, a bunch in test 5. Stopped it there...
Ok. That's no good. Reboot.
3.0V and 2-2-3-10. Test 4 has 3 errors, a bunch in test 5 again. Stopped it there.
Now, I am somewhat frustrated, but I realise, "hey, this is a full gig of CAS 2 memory for 120USD. Thats a great deal. I can be fine with 2-3-3-10 @ 2.8V. Alot better than what I had no doubt..."
So I try it @ stock speeds.
2.8V and 2-3-3-10. Test 4 has 1 error, a bunch in test 5. Stopped it there.
Tried it again and looped test 5:
http://www.davidandjemma.com/images/...T/100_3387.jpg
So, it doesn't run stock speeds @ stock voltage. That's no good.
So at this point I call Fry's. They say I can return them and order some more if I want since it's within 30 days or get a refund. I tell them I just want ram that works as advertised. So he gives me Muskin's #.
So I call Muskin. They say:
- We dont support non 400FSB processors at this timing at 1:1
- Try upping the voltage to 2.8V
- Turn all settings like "performance" or whatever to optimal or auto
- You can RMA them, but if they're good we'll send them back to you
So, I'm currently testing them in my roommate's 1.8A / Asus P4SDX combo. Not completely through the test, but errors in test 4 again. Test 5 was clear though.
Thoughts?
I don't think these sticks like nForce2. I recently got hold of some and they hated running 1t with whatever volatge. In my DFI Infinity i had them running up to 210 DC with CPC on and around 3.3v !!! Crazily high volatge for such low FSB. My BH-5 can do 260 with 3.3v :stick:
But with 2t each single stick can do 245 absolute rock stable SuperPi 32m with 3.5v.Tried them out in my friends DFI NF4 rig and they topped out at 225 with 3.5v DC it.
This isn't unique to Mushkin because other UTT do just as bad on NF2. You need some real sweet sticks to get 1t running at high-ish FSB on NF2. Well thats what you get with un-speedbinned IC's at such a low price point. If you want consistency you gotto Pay more $$$$$
@HitMaker, try again becuase on the order went through the next time i tried.Quote:
"My order has been cancelled , i dont understand, i hope they give me an explanation, they have an international shipment for nothing
Any other store there that send to Europe??
Thanks a lot."
The spec listed voltages as 2.6-2.8v, unlike the UTT/BH5.Quote:
Originally Posted by haszek
I got the same pair a week ago. I remember that it did not like 3.0v at the beginning. I had to run it at stock at 2.8v. Then, in a day I raised it to 2.9v, and the third day to 3.0v. I am now stable at 230x10@1:1 2,2,2,6,1T 2.9/3.0v. I cannot go any higher than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Coleman
Or maybe you have recieved RMA'ed memory :)
IMO the changes of getting good memory (blue line)from Outpost is getting lower everyday because people are sending back bad overclocking stuff.
RMA'ed memory will be tested at stockspeed an reselled
another thing you have to think of is mushkin is pre testing these things for 500@2,2,2 timings which means the ones that dont pass will probly go into the blue line. Dont expect to many blue lines to hit 500 anymore.
my sticks came today, excellent service from outpost, 2 days to deliver to the uk. I won't be able to test them until I get my venice (hopefully in the next week), but I'd like to know if they use the bh or ch die utt. Mine have a green brainpower pcb, but I'm not sure how your supposed to take the heatspreader off, i don't want to just pull at something and break my new ram. Any suggestions?
There is an eralier post from Mushkin rep who said the green pcb in a matched pair are guaranteed to have the new BH5.
There is also a post earlier showeing how to take the heat spreader off.
going through the earlier posts, there are people with the heatspreaders off, but they don't say how they took them off. Its probably very simple, but I'd rather play it safe.
Take a look at the clip. There is a dimple at just about the middle down the length of the clip. Use a little screw driver or some sort of plastic thing) to lift the clip where the dimple is and slide the clip off, then you can take the spreader off by just opening it a bit. That is what I recall seeing. Maybe it is in another forum where I saw how this is done.
i bought one on frys to compare it with my Corsair PC3500, the result was not good at all, it wont do 245 11-2-2-2-2 and 240. it also gets heat up at 3.0+ vcore.
So what will it do?Quote:
Originally Posted by MicroAMD
At 3.0v it should do about 225, that's all...
At 3.2v it may do 240...
At 3.4v+ it may do 250...
And YES, all DDR heats up at high voltage...
I have been testing the green PCB stick 512 mb I have and sofar by its self it is 5,2,2,2.0 3.1V stable 225FSB on a UT250GB
That is pretty dang good for a 60.00 buck stick of ram.
I dare someone to show me another stick of ram that will run this good for 60.00 bucks. :stick:
TwinMOS Speed Premiums PC3200 with UTT for $55, plus shipping.
OCZ Value VX
Just about any UTT based stick will do what the Mushkins do.
They are close to being interchangeable. Within each brand there are stellar chips and some not so stellar.
Yeah, I can do 230@1:1,2,2,2,6,1T@2.9-3.15VQuote:
Originally Posted by charlie
My psu cannot go beyond 3.15V. I will mod it to get higher voltage, but atm I am cruising at 230 with 2x512. Not too bad considering the price of this thing.
Mine are being returned tomorrow. One bad stick, plus they won't run 1T on NF2 boards apparently.
Hopefully I can find something better later...
230 is nice for 1g @ 3.1vQuote:
Originally Posted by e268
C
These memories need alot of voltage to perform well. It looks like you're using a NF2 motherboard. In my DFI NF2 LP Ultra B, I can do ~230FSB 2/2/3/10 @ 3.2V. Unfortunately, these memories need 3.4V minimum to start burning-in properly. Since the memories really heat up, you'll need fan directly blowing over them to keep them cool to reduce the errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Coleman
Hey don't despair. I got two sets of the exact same memories as yours. They performed exactly like you described when I first got them. They could barely 200FSB 2/2/2/6 @ 3.2V on the NF4. Any more FSB or voltage would just generate more errors.
After burning them in for two weeks on my DFI NF4 Ultra-D, both sets of memories are responding pretty well. The DFI NF4 Ultra-D provides more memory options as well as more voltage. You have to burn-in each stick individually to their maximum potential and then run them in DC mode. Now all 4 sticks run at least 240FSB individually and my top pair will do ~250FSB 2/2/2/6 1T 1:1 @ 3.5V in DC mode.
DFI NF4 Ultra-D 414-3 Bios
200/E/2/2/6/2/7/15/2/2/1/2/1168/A/E/+/255/8/A/7/5/256/D/16/7/D
250/4/16/16/9/100/D/A/1.375/1.450V/110/1.3/1.7/3.5
Cjoe
For taking the HS's off this is the best way I think it can be done in my very limited experience:
First take the mushkin stickers off and void your warranty (you have to do this to remove the clips - you can probably also heat the ram up and the sticker may come off easy/unbroken so you don't have to void your warranty).
Next take a small screw flathead screw driver (most be really small) and use it to lift each of the two silver clips a bit. After the clips have been lifted a bit there should be space for a bigger flat head and the clips should pop off pretty easily.
Lastly put the ram back in the computer and run it at a high voltage for about 20 mins while running prime in a memory intensive mode. Then take the sticks out carefully pull the HS's off. There is an adhesive between the chips and the HS that takes a decent amount of force to overcome (enough when its cold that you risk pulling one of your chips off so make sure to warm the chips up first). Note even after warming it up there may still be a risk of pulling a chip off, I take no responsibility for your actions follow the above at your own risk :fact: This worked very well for me.
Thats how my corsair BH-5 started a few years ago, after a year up to 250 @ same volts (on the DFI NF2 boards hehe)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
My friend just received the Mushkin, 2packs of 2x512mb, from outpost... BUT with a charge of 60€, not 60$... so 76$, what the heck??? 76$ wow, what about the 20$ of shipment cost plus :rolleyes: ?? :eek:
Because of the customs or what???
Man....
Wow: that is a lot of shipment charge. Maybe there is custom clearance cost and duty, etc. I suggest you call the courier and find out. They shipped mine to Canada for a cost of $21US via Airbourne (like next day service). There is a note attached to mine that they "maybe" sending me another bill for customs and taxes. It has been 2 weeks and I have not received any further billing. I'll keep my fingures crossed that I do not have to pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by HitMaker
Err... my 4 sticks just died very recently and even before dying, I did have reboot issue from cold (where system wont recognize memory). I am using DFI-NF4 ultra D. I plan to get more of these sticks when local shop gets them on stock (monday). Only thing is... which bios works best with this memory for DF-NF4 Ultra D right now? Currently chugging along with Corsair Value Select (what a piece of...) till the shop has Blue in. Any help on bios that has no problem booting up will be appreciated. (Keep in mind I will be moving to sandiego from winchester platform in a week or two when my custom case is finised building up)
I ran with 2.17 bios w/o problem...switching beetween tccd and blue mush. and combined them together for 4x512...Quote:
Originally Posted by jinu117
Bought 2 991140 (1GB) kits from Outpost. 1 green and 1 black. Opened black one and removed heat spreader. Found one stick with all BH-5 340wf and other with BH-5 one side with 320wf, other with 319wf. PCB seems to be Mushkin own type.
The sad part is that with 2.8V I can't really appreciate the full potential, will be vdimm modding 9NDA3+ for some 3.4V+ soon.
I have not opened green one yet. Only says BP 0815 and is problably BH-UTT.
Got a decent pic after taking my heatspreaders off. I found that dental floss helped out nicely for getting them off. Just heated them up and run the floss across them and they popped off pretty easy.
http://team-459.com/members_ftp/files/Blues.jpg
Looks like a new BH chip.
I finally recived mines...
2 packs of 2x512mb (119€ from outpost), 65€ of charge finally (5€ more than other friend who has them from last week, Spanish's Customs --> :slapass: )...
And, also i am pissed off, they are green PCB!! both of the twin packs i didnt take out yet the heatspreader... so new BH-5 and NOT BRAIN POWE??? or is possible to have the BRAIN POWER green??
I will post this afternoon ;) some results and pics
Ok, the PCB is exactly the same "aka-doc-" has ;) B6U815 :banana:
So BRAIN POWER no?? i have to look at the chips, better new BH-5 than UTT-CH/BH no?? i read somewhere the new BH-5 does 600 cas2.5 3.5V??
See you..
B6U815 = Brainpower PCB
someone is fooling you saying bh-5 can 300@3.5v
Ok thanks, but what should i expect from these chips if they are finally new BH-5??? at least 270???Quote:
Originally Posted by Shroomalistic
Thanks a lot Shroomalistic ;)
EDIT: The new BH-5 need BURNING??? :stick:
PD: Sorry for my bad english :p:
Hitmaker, don't expect much without working with them. This is what I am going through with them at the moment: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=384807
Quote:
Originally Posted by HitMaker
Well since there speed binned for 500 @ 3.3v then you would porbly get lucky at 275-280ish
hey hitmaker, i might be going to spain later this year, if u need anything (small) from here let me know.. I ussualy go to Tenerife once a year or so.
Thaks dude, but is quiet far away Tenerife from Madrid :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by kamaleon
I am going to Chicago on July ;), to KAPLAN (english courses -TOEFL, SATs, GMATs, regular english-).. xDD
My mushkin PCB B6U815 BRAIN POWER , crappy capture:
http://telefonica.net/web2/hitmaker20/mushkin.jpg
EDIT: They are equal to aka-doc- ones:
http://team-459.com/members_ftp/files/Blues.jpg
Put that thing in macro mode hitmaker, and back off the stick till you get good focus. Then when you retouch it, it will magnify back up and you'll have a good shot. I end up reducing the final image size to 20% of original..
http://www.adobe.kodakgallery.com/Br...1&sort_order=0
What initial limits are you getting?
I didn´t start to test them... maybe tomorrow...Quote:
Originally Posted by aka-doc-
So we have New Bh-5 or UTT-BH?
My Mushkin Blue Line have BP-PCB too. They make 250@2-2-2-6-1T, but with 3.5V and they become really hot!
If your are using the DFI NF4 model can you post all the settings of the ram please?? (a capture from the bios or just write them)..Quote:
Originally Posted by Troll
This "New" BH-5 need burning or not??
haha, I really really wish I had done a bit more research before buying winbond ram. I bought two sticks of this when it was posted in the deals section at anandtech like a month ago, mine also came B6U815 BP PCB(Green), but wouldnt run the stock speeds at 2.6 or 2.7 volts because that's all my pos shuttle nf2 ultra 400 board could give it w/o doing a vdimm volt mod(I looked for one but the most you could get from the mod on my board was 2.9 volts I think anyway), and I'm to afraid to do one atm(I took high school electronics, and still have my soldering iron so I may end up just going and buying some rosin core solder and doing it anyway).
This is a very good guide to mod the psu. I am planning to do it, but I am scared of the heat at 3.5v.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=37574
I dont really know what happened but I did manage to kill 4 sticks I had running 3.4v over time.... :P It was doing 240-250mhz 2-2-2-5 fine till it died and started showing some wierd errors.... (It had very good cooling while running in that setup btw) - these were black PCB.
Right now, have another 4 sticks in (green PCB) running 3.2v 230-2-2-2-5. Didn't feel like killing another 4 pair of memory so running less voltage and less speed.
Was playing a bit today and noticed something a bit unusual.... blue ink markings on my blue line. Would Charlie or others who got some of the early sticks of these mind checking to see if they have similiar markings please (see attached pic). Thanks :D
http://img8.echo.cx/img8/1571/bluelinemarks1ae.th.png
*cough* Anyone? *cough*
I think that's some sort of Mushkin's code or sth :lol: I have that type of markings on 2 sets of 2x256MB Mushkin LvL II PC3200 (green on one stick and purple on the other) and same for 2x512MB LvL II PC3500 I used to own.Quote:
Originally Posted by EMC2
I have also always wondered what meaning they had... It should not be that difficult to find out; we can try asking Duonger ;)
For the moment with 2x512Mb Mushkin Blue BP pcb with two dimples (not sure Bh5 though) only making 208FSB at Cas 2-2-2-6 2.9Vdimm and my old but trusty Nf7s.........
Waiting for my DFI ultra D and my SanDiego :slobber: to give them a chance, cuz they are not stable at 220FSB 3.0Vdimm 2-2-2-11 (my OCZ booster isnt trusty anymore, i think its broken now, i move the dial and it doesnt respond, it reads 3.2 or 3.4 just a second and then it returns back to the board maximum 2.9Vdimm, also read in Cpuz and MBM... :mad: )
UPDATE Green PCB with brainpower bu6815? forgot the number but...
DFI Ultra-D..... BIOS 412-3 and offical 3-10, no overclocking
ran memtest at stock setting by running 2 memory in the yellow dimm and then 2 of them in the orange dimm... not able to pass memtest86 at test 5 and 8... was planning on doing a burn in.
I alsotried to tweak the settings to 2-5-2-2-7-16-2-1-2-2 and tried 2-3-2-5-7-16-2-1-2-2 ect ect... disabled various setting... still not good... conclusion... it doesnt pass memtest86 even on stock setting.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...Picture243.jpg
conclusion... RMA time.. didnt even get a change to really test these out :(
did you try to set all other timings to auto except for the tras, cas, trp, trcd. Some of the other settings you have listed might be too tight for these dimms. I doubt u would have gotten 2 bad sets. Something just doesn't seem right.Quote:
Originally Posted by idleuser
hmm i also ran them in stock settings check it out... this is set to all auto... tried yellow dimm socket and then orange.. same results on test 5 and it gets even worse on test 8. Bios setting is set to all Auto.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...Picture244.jpg
Try this using bios 310p or 310 normal, using orange slots ;)
vdimm@3v
CPC = Enabled
CAS Latency(CL) = 2
RAS to CAS(Trcd) = 2
Min RAS# Active time(Tras) = 5 or 6
Row Precharge Time(Trp) = 2
Row Cycle Time(Trc) = 7 or 8
Row Refresh Cycle Time(Trfc) = 16 or 17
Row to Row Delay(Trrd) = 2 or 3
Write Recovery Time(Twr) = 3 or 4
Write to Read Delay(Twtr) = 1 or 2
Read to Write Delay(Trwt) = 2 or 3
Refresh Period (Tref) = 0648 (also try 3072 or 3120)
Write CAS Latency(Twcl) = Auto
DRAM Bank Interleave = Enabled
Skew = AUTO
Skew Value = 0
DRAM Drive Strength = Level 8
DRAM Data Drive Strength = Level 2 (1 if you have a Venice)
Max Async Latency = 7ns
Read Preamble Time = 5ns
Idle Cycle Limit = 256
Dynamic Counter = Disable
R/W Queue Bypass = 16x
Bypass Max = 7x
32 byte Granularity = Disable(8burst)
Hope it works ;) :toast:
thanks man :) I tried your settings with the relaxed timing :) and it works awesome but only in one stick... i tried bios 331-2 and then flashing to 415-2 and that seems to be workign the best... i'm burning in with test 8 at 220mhz @3.1vcore right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HitMaker
Question is it common to fail test 5 but pass every other test? thanks!
if it fails test 5 it should fail test 8(test 8 is an extended ver of test 5 iirc)
Thats true..Quote:
Originally Posted by P_1
So bios 415-2 is better do?
What about bios 414-2, or you meants 414 and not 415? :p: i cannont find bios 415
What Drive Strenght and Data Drive Strenght you use idleuser??? and TREF??? with bios 415-2 i mean ;)
Thanks a lot :toast:
Hitmaker it's best just to make you a floppy or cd with all those on it and see what each one can do. That's what I ended up doing... takes a bit but you figure out which one your system likes better.
Is it worth it to lower Tref that far, I noticed it drops my bandwidth a good 100 going from 3120 to 1168?
I have been running my Data drive strength at 4..... why is 1 better for Venice? Just because I need educated...
oh haha sorry :) hitmaker i set my tref to 3120 and it's been working great.
Wow, I still don't know wtf dram data drive does but after setting it to 1 I notice a huge difference. I can now run 278 with 5/6 divider @ 3.4 v, prime stable 2-3-3-6. Before I was having hard time hitting 2.3 ghz no matter what i used. Tref still 3120.
Hi. I am intested in getting this Mushkin, too.
I was wondering what winbond chips are used on the stick though? I know they are UTT but are they BH-5 or what else? Thanks a lot, guys.
EDIT: Would this also mean at the moment if I buy a pair of them chances are I could get a returned pair that either dopn't OC well or are faulty (I think in this case they would rather be the former reason as I don't thing Outpost would resale a faulty pair of ram stick again. or what do you guys reckon?)?
If so, how do I know that they are a reurned pair? Do they come in like sealed plastic packaging that has to be cut open to take the stcks out?
Finally i have test my dimms for a couple of hours, bios 310P:
http://www.telefonica.net/web2/hitma...45_burning.jpg
Thats with this settings at 3.4V, ldt@3x, vldt@1.3V and vchipset@1.6V
200
Enable
2
6
2
7
15
2
2
1
2
3072
auto
Enable
Auto
0
Level8
Level2
7.0ns
5.0ns
16
disable
16
07
disable
I guess not bad for "new" BH-5..
But, at 250 if gives me like 3000 errors per pass, to much to try burning no??, with 3.5V it doesn´t give errors at 250 but at 255 it does, huge number :(
What do you recommend? 3.4V 245mhz for more than 5hours and see if after that it holds at 250 without errors??? or what??
I have 3 80mm fans (one for mem, one for mofset 4V, and the other for the rest of mofsets ;)). Should i take off the heatstink from the memory?? or try yellow slots?? or just easy and more relax latency (no idea witch to change :stick: )
Some superpi pics
http://www.telefonica.net/web2/hitma...270x10_1mb.jpg
http://www.telefonica.net/web2/hitma...270x10_8mb.jpg
See you ;)
Ok, i fixed the timings TRAS and RAS TO CAS, they were like swithed! :nono: , i am gonna try some burning at 245 3.4V for a couple of hours, and i will see if it helps or i had to do some burning at 250 3.5V :p:
ANd advise for relasing timings¿
Don't try yellow unless you switch bios. Soon as I get the time I am gonna try the new 5-10 bios. Seems to be better for yellow slots, which the dfi guys say do better with the higher voltage ram.
My new config:
enable
1.5
02
05
02
07
15
02
02
01
02
0648
auto
enabled
auto
0
level 8
level 2
7.0
FAST
5.0
16
disable
16
07
disable
245x10 LDT@4x Vdimm 3.4V, after some burning, i won´t to try now 250 3.4V or 245 3.3V with burning i think i can get them, no??
Not bad for new BH-5 from Mushkin Blue Line witch did cost me 101€ :toast:
My 2x512 can do 230@1:1@1T,2,2,10,2,9,13,1,2,2,4,3120,1,BI=on,I,64 ,1,7,5,16,E,16,7,8
@3.1/3.2vDIMM with BIOS 331r1 (tictac). 235 will give me 2 errors for every 4 memtest #5 passes, even at 3.3vDIMM
So I have accepted 230 as my max fsb. I want to do 285x9 to max my cpu clock. Here is the timing:
285@3/4 divider@1T,2,2,10,2,2,9,13,1,2,2,2,3120,1,, BI=on,I,64,1,7,5,16,E,16,7,8
This timing gives me fsb of 213 and Bandwidth 1891. Superpi and 3dMark01 both give great results over 230 cpu and fsb. Bandwidth is quite decent, since it was 1911 using 230 fsb. But in this situation, I am not happy with the fact that fsb is only 213. I cannot use 5/6 divider to produce 230 fsb. But, I know it is stable at 230, but when I use 285x9 or even 280x9, I cannot use 5/6 to get close to 230fsb. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks.
Have you tried upping your volts e268? I really can't do anything with this stuff below 3.0... Biggest difference I got out of switching one setting was the Data drive strength so far. After putting it on 1 I noticed a lot better OC, with my tref still at 3120.
Hitmaker have you tried that new bios yet? Seen alot of people using the 5-12 and yellow slots getting some good results on this high volt stuff. I am gonna give that a shot on Sun. Till then it's burn and burn away. I wasn't happy with this stuff at first, but after working with it I have come to like it alot. Lookin for a good way to actively cool it I ran across this old thread last night... http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...active+cooling
I tried the new bios, and similar results, the point is i have to do a real burning...Quote:
Originally Posted by aka-doc-
I mean:
3.3V and ~230-235 (depends at what speed i get some errors but less than 10)... and leave it around 10 hours or even more, but i am too lazy xD i hope i had another system to do it and the same time i am working/playing in my pc...
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@aka-doc-: I have burned it at 235 fsb using 3.3vDIMM for 6 hrs, but 2 errors(always in pairs) for every 4 memtest #5 passes.
Data Drive Strength=2 makes it worst.
I took the heat spreader off one of the two dimms, but no help. I have since put it back on. In fact one dimm can do 240 on its own, and the other can do 235 on its own, but 2 together can only do 230. The heat spreader is warm to the touch (I think I have enough air flow with my xp120 and fan, and another 80 mm fan drawing air in, 120 mm fan exhausting air out. I have not tried blowing air directly at the dimms since it is hard to anchor the 80 mm fan there, and since the heat spreader is just warm to the touch.
Mine have run much better after pulling the heatspreaders off. Looks like you need to focus on burning one of those in at a time. Sucks cause it takes sooo long if you only have one pc.
i tested my 1gb dual pack yesterday, I'm using a venice 3000+ and dfi nf4 ultra d, and using stock timings, I can't get it to run at all in dual channel mode, I get errors on a few tests - mostly test 8. What settings do I have to change to get it running in dual channel? Even when I bump up voltage its not at all stable. Any advice? I dont know why it would mess up in dual channel - it can't even manage 200mhz in dual channel.
Here are my 1GB Mushkin Blue. They can DDR 500 at 3.5V at 1,5-2-2-5.
That is very nice. I cannot even do 230, since I only have 3.3vDIMM. Can you do 250@10x multi? your 2M score looks low.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramguy
can anyone help with my problem running my sticks in dual channel?
As I said earlier single channel works fine, but dual channel does not. Are there settings I should change, or should I try a bios flash (Im currently on a dfi nf4ulra-d with 3-31 bios)?
Try these settings. It worked for me @230 1T, 2,2,,6,2,9,13(minimum),01(minimum),2,2(minimum),4( minimum,3120,1 , BI=on, Increase, 64,Dram Strength=1,7,5,16,E,16,7,8.Quote:
Originally Posted by onewingedangel
If it is stable for you, you can increase decrease trtw to 2.
These are nF3 timings, but shoud be ok for nF4.
Bandwidth in Memtest is terrible for 250MHz 1.5-2-2-5. Should be over 3000MB/s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramguy
2T?
That is likely due to the fact that Ramguy is running at 2251 MHz cpu. If he increases multi to get close to 2.5G, Memtest BW will increase. But then he might not be stable as I can get 230x10 stable, but at 230x11 is not stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Quick little question; is this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146393
the same Mushkin Blue that Outpost has been selling? Not sure if I want the Muskin Blue or to spend a tad more on OCZ Gold.
thanks
It looks the same, and spec is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkangyl
I am running mine at 280x9HTT 280@3/4, 2,2,2,6,1T,Interleave=on at 2.8V
For higher BW I can run it at 230@1:1,2,2,2,6
I think these results are comparable to OCZ VX. Somehow OCZ VX is more popular since they introduced it first. Both has pretty good support.
BTW, I bought it from Outpost, and I hear that they have excellent service, and liberal return policy.
I got my 6800 Ultra from Outpost bout this time last year (for $500 too, back when they were $600+)
ne ways, thanks.
Xtrem thread revival :woot:
just bought 2x512mb sticks from Jinu, When they arrive im gunna start memtesting at 2-2-2-5 240mhz 3.2v and do 50 passes before moving up even 1 Mhz :p:, always done crap burn in before so mite aswell go for it with these :p:
Wait and see if the pcb is black or green. If black, it is original Mushkin LvL 2 that was leftover for warranty replacements, this will be original BH-5. If green BP808, it is new UTT.
The original BH-5 does 2-2-2 with only 2.7-2.9v up to 230MHz, new UTT needs 3.2v+ to do those timings.
I got the old BH-5 :)
I hve the green pcb, and I can do 2226 @ 2.8v. See my sig.
Yeah, but your ram is only at 213. Original BH-5 would do that speed with only 2.7v usually. Mine does 228 at 2.8v, 2-2-2-11-1T
cartmanea there are two types of UTT... CH-UTT & BH-UTT
BH-UTT is damn similar to the old BH5, from all things I've heard it is actually the same, only made at a later date.
CH-UTT is similar to CH5 in the process that is used, but it has also been vastly improved.
BH-UTT will do 2-2-2 at lower voltages but that doesn't necessarily mean it will do any better than CH-UTT at 3.2v
CH-UTT usually needs 2.9v+ to do 2-2-2 timings above DDR400... but once it gets passed a certain threashold it takes off very well
From experience I think CH-UTT is my preferred chip when using 1GB+ of RAM
Yes I know there are two types of UTT. The Mushkin Blue that were on BP808 pcb's were using mostly CH UTT, that is why the stuff on black pcb's with original BH-5 overclocked better with lower voltage.
I had two sets of these, one on black with old BH-5 and one on green BP808 with new CH UTT. They both hit about the same limit with 3.2v, but the old BH-5 did much better with lower voltage, so that is the set I kept.
I chose to run it like this because I needed the high CPU speed. My two sticks can run 230@1:1 2,2,2,6 1T at 2.8vQuote:
Originally Posted by cartmanea
Its green PCB :p:, cant wait to test these out :)