My Neo2 broke......................I'm simply going to sell the Giga board.Quote:
Originally Posted by muzz
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My Neo2 broke......................I'm simply going to sell the Giga board.Quote:
Originally Posted by muzz
Well, I'm getting a FX-55 tomorrow - time to put this on ebay.
Fails prime at stock within minutes, so its going back :(Quote:
Originally Posted by redgoo
Gah, I received the same stepping from ZZF (CAA2C 0505DPMW) just yesterday but, past just doing the initial install, I haven't had a chance to test it...Quote:
Originally Posted by redgoo
As soon as I do, I'll post results here.
Yep mine did to.... I dont think its unreasonable to expect a NEW cpu to prime at stock speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgoo
:rolleyes:
Gee, these must be "failed" faster cpus -- some seem great and not failed at all -- some sound like they should have been rated even lower than 3500+
I got a ZZF (CAA2C 0505DPMW) -- OK
Oh well this is great. If i keep the one from Newegg i have a chance of getting a poor overclocker and if i keep the one from ZZF i have a chance of getting one that can't even run stock speeds lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by clockedOut
burningrave101, there are many more procs from zzf that are running 2.6-2.8 on air than ones that fail stock speeds :) Keep your hopes alive!
My first runs stable at 2772, although the memory controller won't run 1:1 past 260 or so. I'm hoping that when my VX gets here the memory controller is good enough to run 252x11 1:1 2-2-2-5 and then I'll be happy :)
I did play around with the bad one and I could underclock it and run all the way up to 283 1:1 (as far as I tested).
I wouldn't worry about getting a bad one, it is not the norm.
I've got a CAA2C 0504WMPM and waiting a new NEO2
wish it will clock great on air !!
Good luck! It seems that 2600 is all but guaranteed... beyond that is icing on the cake. Lucky me getting two CPUs that can't overclock very well... :shakes:
Just got my new CPU with CAA2C stepping. Was hoping for a better overclock then my old 3000+. It was stable @ 2.7GHz (1.6v). Anyway that one died of overvolting. Suicide screenshot attempt with 1.85v on air was just to much :p:
Back to the new one. It can run 10x265 stock volts. Then the temprature is ok, but as soon as I start to raise the voltage, the temps are through the roof. With my XP120 and silent fan, max temp on my Winnie @ 1.6v was low 50's (celcius) This is what I get with stock voltage on this one. And if I raise the voltage to 1.6v here, I get high 60's ( 65 - 67 )I'm able to get it stable @ 2.7GHz with 1.575v now. Then the temps are low 60's ( 61 - 63 )
Are these high temps on these CPU's normal? I mean these are even hotter then my old FX55. Very strange......
yeah, i've noticed that too about temps...
at stock to 1.6, temp stays around 48 to 54 load
then at 1.6+ it jumps to close to 60C+
Have got myself one like these also, a 0506 GPMW.
Running smooth at 2.5G at stock voltage. Ran prime95 for 9 hours yesterday without a problem.
Highest I could get the cpu, superpi 4M benchable is 2.8G but with rather much voltage and high temps.
http://busted.be/superpi4m2.8.JPG
Can only do one run at once at these speeds. Think the cooling is failing a little bit.
And I've also noticed they run quite hot, idling at 48° on the 2.6G-settings. Or could also be I didn't apply enough AS.
cool
Good, what vendor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thamar
Nice clocks Thamar.
Good to see you here.
Welcome to the sickness.
I think I've been pretty lucky now that I look at it... 2.9ghz on water.... iQuote:
Originally Posted by Thamar
went to phase after and had to up the voltages quite a bit but couldn't get
any further than 3ghz even with negative temps. I guess it doesn't look too
bad if I stop at 2.9ghz @ 1.648v with water.... :)
http://www.jpop.com/maru/3500h.jpg
nice cpu gocchin!
Suaria: codima.be , the shop I work at in the weekends.
Thanks jup, great board by the way. Now it doesn't refuse to cold start anymore, something to do with those winnie's maybe...
what sort of temps should these chips run at @ stock ??
Just got my superclaw 3500+, it's a CAA2C 0504 MPMW, now I just gotta wait for my VX (should be here early next week) and then I can test, I'm aiming for 2.7GHZ on air (XP-120)
Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thamar
got mine today its a caazc :( but it does 2600mhz 100% stable @ 1.5v. but i cant get it any higher, no matter what voltage i use and even if i slacken memory timings. http://home.comcast.net/~sdodson/untitled.JPG
Wow... this seems to be an awfully familiar story. These chips on average will go to 2.6 at around stock voltage and not move an inch after that. The best ones seem to do 2.8+ but seem to be rarer than originally thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by radcruiser
I find it very strange that we can do 2.6 at near stock then it doesn't budge after that, maybe something like 1.8V would move it along but unless you've got a water/phase set up that's not going to happen...
newegg cpu?Quote:
Originally Posted by radcruiser
yes. i want more than 2600mhz :(
hopefulyl everyone with the Z's are missing somehting to puch them past the 2.6 mark. There is a thread out about poor winnies benifiting from more voltage when it is raised by percentages rather than actual values?
I've got a "2" from ZZF and i have the same problem, it's all luck of the draw. I tried the voltage thing you refer to, I'm sure that I'm getting the voltages that I think I am but there's no effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnj
Ok, just a shot in the dark. Yea 2 guys have the same stepping as me. ONe is doing 2.7 and the other 2.6
Ill be happy in the middle somewhere
so after further testing...
i can do prime 2.75 ghz with 1.53 volts
but in order to run 2.8 ghz (or 50 mhz more) i need 1.66!!!
crazy... but 2.75 is nothing to complain about since all the awesome winchesters are gone.. and should be good enough to hold me over until venice is released soon :)
There's nothing wrong with running 1.66VCORE, even if you're on air. Go for it. :toast:
yeah i know... but is it worth boosting vcore that much to gain only 50 mhz though?Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
Yes. It's worth it. Afterall, this is XtremeSystems. :cool:
I run my Newcastle 3200 at 1.68v 24/7 without problems and temperatures never go over 50c under load. I have a Hyper 6 HSF which gives me some room to play, but in general since these chips are 1.5v stock even 1.7v is not that much increase that it would cause damage if the air cooling is good.
Where did your CAA2C get it from???Quote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
Viper
Just got mine. CAA2C 0506BPMW. Going to burn in today and start overclocking tomorrow :)
:: despises those with 2 :: :: Kicks his Z ::
Looked in the shop this afternoon, we still have like 10 of those CAA2C's. Week 5, 6 & one week 10 if i'm not mistaken.
Dont worry mate, knowing my luck it probably wont do better than yours :p
Mine feels no slower than my FX-55 at the same clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thamar
could anyone just put my mind at rest with my CPU temps b4 i start overclocking ?... im using a XP-90 HSF with a thermaltake silentcat9 fan and my temps in smartguardian are 41c idle and 50c running superPI with 100% load..... does that seem ok for this cpu at stock or is it running hot? thnx :)
Mine didn't run any hotter Chivalry with the stock hsf -- it is setup on my techstation though in a cool room -- 18°C.
um.. so u saying that im geting the same temps with a XP-90 that u were getting with the stock HSF? :0(
I got a CAA2C from ZZF yesterday and i'm struggling to get it over 2.6Ghz on a DFI Ultra-D. I have the voltage close to 1.6V and CPU-Z reports 1.584V. It boots up into windows fine at 240 HTT x 11 (2640Mhz) but its not Prime95 stable at all. My temps may be the problem since i have an XP-90 installed but only a 80mm Cooler Master fan until my 92mm high speed Panaflo gets here.
This DFI Ultra-D sure has a :banana::banana::banana::banana: load of configurations in the Genie BIOS to mess around with. Getting everything right for the RAM in the DRAM config is a pain.
I'll see if i can't get this thing stable tonight after work. If not i'll be sending this one back and ither getting another one or wait and grab a Venice core.
what idle / load temps u getting with that XP-90 burningrave?
ah.... didint see the 18c room bit,,,, my rooms at 24c atm :/Quote:
Originally Posted by sauria
Yeah, nice cool, and open. I just got an XP-90 to test. I need to figure out how to install the bracket (orientation, etc) on my MSI Neo4 Platinum SLI board. I have a Panasonic quiet fan to use with it and an old 92mm Tornado too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivalry
I'll let you know how it does for temps.
got it from NCIX..Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperJohn
I'm having a hard time sitting here and staring at it without doing any testing, where's my damn VX!! :mad:
It was my Gigabyte mobo that was holding me back. I'm up to 2.42ghz now and will be going higher soon. These Neo2's are pretty nice.
Strange cpu's these when it comes to temperatures.
I was running 2.5Ghz & 1.475v and the cpu was 48°C idle and about 58°C load.
Right now I'm running 2.6Ghz & 1.45v and the cpu runs 41-42°C idle and a 49-50°C load.
I don't get it...
ha, What are you using to measure Temps? BIOS?
Speedfan 4.22
Yeah, which VX did you buy?Quote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
Hello everyOne !
I got my Athlon64 3500+ 0.09µ Winchester, today, I haven't open the box yet ! because I'm not sure if I got a good CPU stepping, so I looked through the Box at the CPU core, I can see the number of the CPU stepping
ADA3500DIK4BI
CBBID- 0501-EPMW
1126385A50059
Can someOne, to confirm me, that I have a good CPU model ? :confused:
I' already have a 3500+ 0.13µ Newcastle
ADA3500DEP4AW
CBAXC 0436WPMW
but I wanted to try out the winchester, because alot of people told me that the Winchester is better than the Newcastle you can hit with the high fréquency more easier and there's less heat. I like to make sure I got the good CPU stepping, befort I take it out of his Box and test it :slobber:
Not to be rude, but... this thread is about the only 3500+ that's neither a Winchester nor a Newcastle which are the ones you have. You might be better off searching for a more appropriate thread to post your results on. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDfan
No, the Clawhammer Athlon64 3500+ is better than any CBBID Winchester.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDfan
I don't necessarily agree with that. My Clawhammer only does 2600, while I know that there are some Winchester 3500+'s that do exactly the same on air but don't get as hot! So I'd say if you get lucky and get a good Clawhammer you can surpass a good Winchester. But if you get a bad Clawhammer you'd do above average for a Winchester but you'd be running hotter and probably using more energy to run it at that speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by sauria
PC4000 Gold VXQuote:
Originally Posted by sauria
Consider yourself warned, AMDfan.
Make that 2.5ghz on stock volts. :) Nice chip I've got here.
With the 80mm fan Smartguardian says i'm around 38-39C idle and i'm topping out around 60-61C in Prime95. Its reporting around 1.58V vCore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivalry
I've got a new 92mm Vantec Tornado but i dont really want to install the thing cause i hate the noise level even on my Aerogate II. Hopefully my 92mm Panaflo will come tommorrow.
Can any of you with the DFI Ultra-D board give me any tips for overclocking this chip?
I managed to get to 2.5GHz at 1.43 V recently after some burn-in. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by GregP24
Well, I felt daring and decided to remove the ihs and apply some as5. I'm at 2808 (312x9) with the voltage at 1.55 and temps of 39c idle and 50c under load. btw, I'm using a xp90 with a panaflo fan. Before I removed the ihs my max speed was just over 2.7 and max temps of 55c. I'll post a pic as soon as I get done with super pi 32m. I've done 1m through 32m back to back to test stabilty.
Interesting... I wonder if your results are isolated or typical of these CPUs. Looks like you got a great CPU though if you can do 2800 at 1.55V on air!Quote:
Originally Posted by motoolfan
ya, what's the stepping?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackbar
That sounds like one of the best chips here so far then... I could do 2.7ghz at 1.5v but anything above that required a jump in vcore over 1.6v... the chip maxed out at 2980mhz....Quote:
Originally Posted by motoolfan
Sold it yesterday to some lucky fellow at a massive discount ;)
The stepping is 0505 DPMW. A few days ago I did the power supply sense mod on my 3.3v and 5v rails and that helped the computer in stabilty
http://img17.exs.cx/img17/7501/286bm.th.jpg
Thanks, I got the PC3200 Gold VX KitQuote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
That's interesting about the removal of the IHS. I'd try it myself, but I'm not that daring.Quote:
Originally Posted by motoolfan
Hmmm. Anyone else wanan try taking off the IHS and see what happens?
It's killing me not being able to run my machine. Still need Ram, PSU and HD...grrr PArt Time job paychecks BLOW
hi guys,
it is by passing super pi 32m system is consider stable for ram & cpu
This stuff sure NEEDS the VDIMM to run tight timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by sauria
CAA2C
Looks like mine wont run stable more than 2.6Ghz no matter what vcore I put on to it. Though I could run 2.6Ghz at stock vcore.
if you cant go up go down :P, how low will it run at 2.6 w/?
I'll try that later. I'm still trying to push it higher if I can :)
However when burning in, I let it burn it at 1.15V. Anything below that and prime get errors.
Holy... what MHz was that at???Quote:
Originally Posted by neokenzo
At stock speed :)
I installed my DFI nf4 ultra d / 0504 sledgeclaw today. I love this mobo!
http://home.houston.rr.com/nettwerk/DFI/2.7ghz.JPG
http://tinyurl.com/6d7q3
http://tinyurl.com/5obkr
cool, what kind of cooling r u using?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettwerk
can you tell us the top stable you can get with you 3500+ and with what vcore?? I'm gonna buy one with same stepping of yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GregP24
Swiftech wcingQuote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
After some tweaking, its finally stable at 2.86Ghz with about 1.75V. Going to try for 2.9Ghz :)
1.75v with these things? Holy crap. What kind of cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by neokenzo
With 1.75v i get 70c load. And thats on water.
I cant believe how hot these things run.
Thats on Mach II GT. Yup those things do run hot. My evap temp went down to about -43C for the first time. Usually the lowest it will go is about -48C, and thats with a FX-55 at the same volt.
Quote:
Originally Posted by neokenzo
I see.
The amount of heat these things produce is ridiculous. Why would they produce more heat than the FX55?
Buy two of these, and you could start a pizzeria. Worse then the infamous Pressie.
I would VERY much like to get a statement from a AMD employee concerning this issue.
My chip does 2850Mhz for benching @ 1.65v on water. I feel like i have to give it a run in my cooler. With a NewCastle 3000Mhz 1.81v i have -44c on evap. (actual temp)
Probably I would get like -30c .. :stick:
I think if I had water cooling or phase change, I could go faster with this chip. But at 1.55 to 1.57 volts I can't complain. I'm slowing working my way up. currently burning in at 2820 with the voltage I just mentioned. Temps top out between 53 to 56c.
mine 3500+ Caa2c 0504GPMW is rock stable 2650 with 1.55 and also stable at 2700 with 1.64. I doing some burning now and try to hit 2750 stable with the same volt.Max temp at 2750 with full load is 48c with custom watercooling but i am waiting my mach 2 to be regassed and then i will give it a shot.
Are you guys serious about this burning in stuff? How are you doing it? From what i've read and from my understanding of CPU's, burning in is nothing more then a myth and CPU's dont start performing or overclocking better with time. You can "burn in" the thermal conductant that you use on the heatsink to provide better transference of heat and thus giving you better temps and possibly a higher overclock but what exactly on the chip itself would you "burn in"?Quote:
Originally Posted by motoolfan
AS5 takes several days to set up properly so your temps will be higher at first.
It just seems like a noobs errand considering i've never seen any constructive material to show it actually works.
I'm a bit skeptical too but read this:Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=341296
Anyone with this stepping CAA2C 0504 GPMW on Phase Change? In 3 days im going to have one for my Mach I r404a modded.
Is that one of the few methods out there or are there many methods that you guys use to burn in a CPU? Have any of them given back real results for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by sauria
I still find it hard to believe that it actually works but maybe i'll try it out and see for myself.
Any more links to other methods that have been proven to work effectively?
Mine is a good one I think. I got it doing 220x10 (so I have more bandwith cant let BH-5 goto waste) on only 1.21v. 1.18v is memtest test5 stable and ran stress CPU for a while but prime faild almost instantly. So 1.21v it is (the voltage is according to smart gaurdian)
Even on stock (1.5v) its just waay to hot on the stock cooler. Idle temps are like 50C :eek:
So I've ordered my XP-120 and will be testing upper limits of RAM and CPU in the holidays. :banana:
These chipd seem to really shine under phase and water, where you an get that damn heat away from the chip. They seem to scale well with voltage.
Mine ran just fine at 2.6 GHz stock VCore = 1.46V on my MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum /SLI. I burned in overnight.
I think at 1.8volts your gonna hit 3ghzQuote:
Originally Posted by diogojcr
i have this stepping and 1.7ishvolts im superpi stable @ 2.9
you would think putting in more would get you more speed...
but these things seem to generate a ridiculous amount of heat once you up the voltage past 1.7 volts... (at least to me it has).
maybe i need a triple cascade then i could overclock this thing to 3.4 ghz :)
Same here. Past 1.7V it generates a lot of heat.
good thing i think i just got a good deal on a WC setup.
Looks like I have the only CAA2C 0504 GPAW here...hope it still OC's like the rest of yours
yes they do i sold my 3500+ CAA2C 0505 APMW which did 2805mhz at 1.6v stable since the buyer was willing to pay basically what i paid for it minus $10 = AUD$400 and kept my CAA2C 0507 GPMW which needs 0.08-0.12v more vcore to do same settings max is around 2838mhz at 1.75v which load temp = 62-66C hehQuote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim