PiX please. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
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PiX please. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Am I the only one that noticed the "Eclipse" on the back?Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianTSi
Yes, he did an eclipse 97+ conversion, cause it looks a lot better than the Talon tail lights and the front end I also personally prefer on the eclipse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Yea, I'll take some today. Car is brand new to me. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
Yah, I converted the front and rear ends to 97-99 Eclipse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Also I might do a Stroker eventually but for now I want to see how far I can go on the stock 225,000km Motor :D
Here's a Crappy Underhood Pic...
http://www.villagephotos.com/image.asp?id_=19037431
Jeeez, no crankwalk for you? Lucky lucky...Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianTSi
*knock on wood*
Is it more cost-effective to convert the Talon than to buy the Eclipse? Maybe insurance is different (though I don't see how if its the same car)?
Components are near identical, just some people prefer the look of the eclipse over the talon. Though i love how the TSI looks..:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
When you convert a talon to an eclipse, it's just body stuff...
Yeah but what I asked was, is it cheaper that way vs buying the Eclipse instead? Just trying to learn something about those cars :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
In near future:
One of these! :D ;) http://www.photopost.com/photopost/d...414bmw_e46.jpg
Hopefully without the gaudy ground-effects? Otherwise nice cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by 404Power
I live in Canada and Mitsubishi did not sell cars in Canada until 2000 therefore there aren't many 97-99 Eclipses around, thats why I did the Conversion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Yeah, other than that there's no difference in insurance or anything.
@CanadianTSi: You planning on removing the talon spoiler? I think it would look a lot better without it.
I kinda like it as its the only 97-98 Talon piece left on the car and it makes it a little different. Although I might go Wingless with a CF Hatch over the Winter.
Got a 06 Mustang GT last night... will post pics later
Crankwalk is bound to happen with 2G's, especially on a 97 like mine. I'll be doing a 6bolt swap this spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
lucky, i've got a 98 with an 01 motor, and as soon as things clear up, ima wash it and take pics. which might be in the next couple hoursQuote:
Originally Posted by Luis_GT
I think he's in the clear.... most walking occurs before you hit 100,000.... some happened as soon as 40,000... being at the mileage he's at.. and the HP he's putting down, I wouldn't worry about crankwalk...Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
uploading pics to putfile atm, so check back in like ... 5 mins, ima edit this post
first, a couple pics of my brother's camaro
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/12/35817020159.jpg
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/12/35817020145.jpg
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http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/12/35817015598.jpg
runs 11.7 11.8 all motor, dunno what it runs with the 100 shot ^^
and now the mustang
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http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/12/35817015738.jpg
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runs 13.2 with 315 street tires, but best i could do with the 275 avion's on the back was a 13.8, with dr's should run a 12.9
i know i probably over did it, but ummm lol, i like taking pictures of cars.
well a ford and a chevy in the same driveway. I wonder if they fight at night when no one is around? j/k
Nice cars you got there. Love the camaro, that mustang is awesome as well. You guys are either lucky guys or hard working guys.
lol, my brother we are fortunate of having a dad that puts up with alot of :banana::banana::banana::banana:, my brother went thru 2 motors and trannys on the stang. he paid for the last motor since my dad was tired of it lol. and then my brother got a loan for the camaro. and now i get the mustang which i hope to put a kenne bell and t56 on within the next year or so.
Dude, you do know that makes absolutely no sense right? My GSX has 110k miles on it and I'm expecting it to crankwalk within the next 25-30k. Any 2g eclipse used as a daily driver, especially at the higher miles, and especially with stronger trannies or clutches, are going to crankwalk. If the eclipse is used for racing, it probably won't happen...it's the daily shifting for hours on end that causes crankwalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
I donno about that buddy.... looking over the countless forums before i bought my GSX, it came down crankwalk occuring before the 100k mark, after that i've seen 2g's pull like 180k miles until something broke...Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Also, once again it's NOT always 2g's, i have a local 1g 94 which walked on him @ around 87k.
Let's set this straight for anyone who's confused. Crankwalk occurs on the 7 bolt motors (92.5-99). 1g cars are the least likely to crankwalk, 97-98 are the most likely to crankwalk. Some cars don't, some do it around 100k, some will do it later on.
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/w...crankshaft.htm
Take a GOOD long read through this, out of all the people who responded, find me a few who were over 100k.... most of those were between 30k-70k....
2g cars = 95(end of the year) to 99.
2g's(7bolt) were more prone to crankwalk due to the different material/process used to make the crankshaft.
Just a few
"Crank walk at 62,000 miles....suxs!"
"
My 97 GSX with 24K miles got crankwalk so bad it looks like the crank hit
the block.
A six bolt motor is going in so I never have to worry about it again."
"The crankwalk started for me at about 40-45k miles and has only
gotten worse."
Not trying to argue with u enjoy, unless you checked your crankshaft yourself... or a mechanic did I wouldn't just into a 6bolt swap just yet..
Please donīt laugh (its to dark outside) Pictures are coming tomorrow.
My ride is a ī97 Lancer with the 1.3L engine.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9002/dsci0131yt0.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5087/dsci0123vm4.jpg
Its my first car and its a good and reliable car.
Now it has 174.000km on the indicator.
Oh you better not try...you better...cause trying is for losers! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
Haha, yea I just don't know if I completely agree. But if you're right, good news for me I guess cause mine has 110k and is very strong.
ANY Motor can Crankwalk...
Crankwalk is blown way out of proportion, it happens on maybe 20% of all 2g's.
If I ever build a Motor it will be a 7bolt.
This isn´realy a car ist an Traktorpuller.
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7950/dsci0084bk4.jpg
New rims. Too bad I wrecked the truck last week. :(
2004 RX-8 (waiting for warranty to expire before installing FI) Mazda just extended warranty another 10K miles.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...dicRX8/05b.jpg
now all you need is an off road x pipe, and slp loudmouth 2's, and a short shifter.
Nah... I don't plan on getting any upgrades (no money) and I'll wait till the warranty expires before I modify it... I may have money by that time.
with exhaust, so long as you keep the old pipes, there is no need to worry about the warranty, and also, i dont think that a short shifter voids warranty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis_GT
Still, I don't think I'll need a short shifter yet... I've only been driving manual for 3 days...:slap: <--- meQuote:
Originally Posted by trance565
if you feel a shortshifter for a mustang, you will immediatley change your mind, the clunkiness completely disappears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis_GT
Hey another C43 owner .. and the estate as well. How many miles has it done ?
Here's mine
http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/aamg4.jpg
http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/aamg5.jpg
Regards
Andy
177000miles and you? this motors are very hard, sorry but my english is very short
;)
BMW E38 735i.
will post pics when i work out how.
Daily driver/tow rig - '06 Nissan Titan Crew Cab 4x4 SE:
http://moparextreme.com/img/Dunder5.jpg
Drag car - '71 Plymouth Scamp...
http://moparextreme.com/images/scamp/06_01.jpg
http://moparextreme.com/images/scamp/06_02.jpg
http://moparextreme.com/images/scamp/06_03.jpg
http://moparextreme.com/images/scamp/06_04.jpg
http://moparextreme.com/images/scamp/06_05.jpg
Action shot by track photographer, launching on a 10.6x run:
http://www.davemilcarek.com/100706/p...7-R1%20115.htm
Video from a track rental I attended in October:
http://moparextreme.com/videos/Atco_101806_Scamp.wmv
Tom
Omg the interior on the 202 looks much better than the 203.
Nice mercs :D
+1, man that one merc sedan is hawt!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallenator
what's the fastest you've gotten it? 10.6 doesnt quite sound right for a straight up drag car ^^.Quote:
Originally Posted by TMonte
1998 Civic 1.6 VTi
My junkyard dog, a 1971 Datsun 240Z...extensively modified.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/z.jpg
And the new toy, destined to become my daily driver, a 1991 Mazda RX7...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ini-Mazda1.jpg
The Mazda is a revelation.
I bought it on a whim cause I needed a ride while the Z gets it's body redone, prior to this I had never driven a Wankel.
Bloody thing's like a two stroke, completely gutless below 4K RPM and then Whoa Nelly!, she wakes up and just screams to eight grand.
Kinda nice having a heater that actually works, too.
And your point of reference is what? An 8-second "street" car with nitrous/turbo? :ROTF: Those cars are cool though, even though they're really race cars masquerading as a street car. They sure as hell have a lot more gear and chassis than my car probably ever will.Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
I don't think 10.60's are all that bad for a stock frame 3000lb car running a small block (360ci) without a power adder. I could easily bolt on a 150HP NO2 shot and run 9's, but why? I prefer NA... :toast:
Edit: I just went back and saw your brothers Camaro and your Stang - clean cars. I've seen some of those F-body LS1 cars scienced out running low 10's all motor (see NHRA Stock or Super Stock - there have been some in the 9's too). What do your brother's 60' times look like?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMonte
my brothers runs 11.6 all motor, and 10.9-11.1 with nos i think, but he only got to do one run like that, seeing as anything 11.5 or faster requires a 4point? roll cage.
and with only a 360ci in there, thats actually pretty good, you should put a big block in though.
I believe its 10.99 and you're kicked out without a cage.
yeah, but if your running faster than 11.5 you gotta slow it down, or else tehy kick you out if you run 3 or more times without a cage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
they require a helmet if you run in teh 13's now, used to be you only needed a helmet once you hit 12's
Sounds about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Bah, who needs a stinkin big block? :yawn2: LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by trance565
Yep, some facts from the 2007 NHRA rulebook (applies at HRP, where I assume you and your brother run):Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlz0r
- 10.99 and quicker or 135MPH requires a rollcage
- Rollbar is acceptable from 10.00 - 10.99, if the vehicle has stock floor, frame, firewall, etc.
- 7.50 - 9.99 requires chassis certification
- Helmets are required 13.99 and quicker
- Driveshaft loop is required 13.99 and quicker - except for vehicles 11.49 and slower running street tires
Off the top of my head, there are plenty more that apply sub-10.99, like transmission shield, SFI spec damper, etc. My car has a 10pt. cage in it, which is more than enough for what it runs.
I would like to know what the 60' times and 1/4 MPH look like with your brother's car, out of curiosity. I wouldn't doubt that his LS1 is putting out nearly as much power as my motor given the weight, gearing and suspension tuning differences, and timeslips will tell the tale. Truth be told, my motor is pretty mild so I don't have to do too much maintenance...
Tom
i'll see if i can get more info on his times tomorrow,
he's got a .598 lift cam, full exhaust, full intake minus manifold, and 4.10 gears, on that he makes like 400-410whp, then he now has a 125 shot direct port of nos, and i think he said he makes close to 570
What did they do to it? I thought the bread wagon version from the UK was different, that looks so unfamiliar. Bring on the new type-r!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester FPS
Opel Omega MV6 3.0 '96
http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...n84/My%20Opel/
My delight, BMW E46 M3...
'95 Ford Mondeo
90HP, 136NM@3500UPM
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?im...ckseitelg3.jpg
Just traded in my '93 Crown Vic (250k km) for an '07 Honda Fit (Jazz):
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6108/img0340eh8.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2653/img0341ap6.jpg
My old Bmw 320i E30, '87
6cyl/130Hp
http://i12.tinypic.com/4342kwi.jpg
http://i16.tinypic.com/2n8as11.jpg
This is my 1971 Z/28 Camaro street machine.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9620/car4jm7.jpg
Got any more pics? That one looks stretched.
yeah, definantly not a male type of car, i mean, what kind of man would want such a slow pos?(btw im not being sarcastic)
Its not meant for drag racing. Its a pretty car and destined to be a classic. Its a bit underpowered, yes. Perhaps compared to your 1998 Mustang with 2001 Motor, or whatever your car has. You telling me that its slow compared to a typical car? 400 hp and 4.6 seconds to 60 completely unmodified is very slow? I'm sure a Ford Mustang puts out way more than 400 hp when modified but please compare apples to apples. Maybe it doesn't fit your macho image, but its still a nice car, is it not? I take it that you don't like European cars? Well, European cars are all I have.
wait, thats not a modena 360? lol, thought it was a modena. the porche is definantly nice, i just hate ferraris, i just dont think they are worth the money.
Beautifull !!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester FPS
2006 Honda Civic Si
Yes, it is, and at least it can corner, which is way more than I can say for most cars here, if you get my hint.Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
No the best car Ferrari made, but it's no pos either.
The 360 Modena is slow maybe by drag standards, which in my humble opinion is not ay measure of a car, no offense to anyone. Take any of your cars and try a round on Modena circuit(or any other circuit for that matter), tell me which is slow then.
PS. Nope, Ferraris are not worth the money, but then again no exotic is.
Yeah, I love my M3, but I'm really getting the itch for this one too.
Interesting car indeed, but maybe it would be better to scratch that itch. A service visit with the M3 is one thing, finding a service to do anything to the Dahler is in another league :)
It is actually a Wiesmann, Daehler is the local dealer.
http://www.wiesmann-mf.com/index.html
The roadster:
but iany said it had 400hp.... which, if that is what ferrari says, it's way over rated, as my car with a 75 shot can put 3 cars on one, and that would only be like 340whp max.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandrus
and if i can find a circuit in the houston areaish, i will tell ya how good my car runs, i'll prolly take a few vids too.
i drive my car out and race 2 or 3 nights a week, and i drive on the freeways almost daily, so qt mile time is important, not so much lateral gs, not yet anyways.
Just purchased this 2000 Toyota MR2
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...in/spyder1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...in/spyder2.jpg
I plan on shaving the badges, a little audio and basic bolt ons.
I already have a 93 Del Sol w/ a B18 (jdm tranny lds) swap.
The discussion is meaningless, however, when one says a car is a slow pos I somehow doubt he means highway driving.
Not to mention, HP ratings and 0-100km/h times are not so important on tracks, believe me. There are 200HP cars that beat "american muscles" with twice the HP on track, so I somehow doubt a Ferrari F360 can be called slow pos by these standards.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandrus
when rated at 400hp, and it loses to something with 350hp then it's over rated.
and 200hp hondas only beat them around the circuit track, in the drag or on the street they cant touch them, and with 2 grand in modifications, the muscle car will reign on track too.
and when a ferrari with "400" hp, gets beat around the track by a 300hp mustang, then it's funny in my opinion, and especially when the guy in teh mustang spend a total of 15k or less, that is what makes the ferrari a slow pos.
or when a 70k dollar corvette just thrashes it.
Which is why dyno racing is pointless, as is bench racing. Numbers are just that, numbers, and rarely translate to real world performance.
Trance, no offense m8, but you should try a proper track against a good driver and a decent 250HP track car(you might try the older Lancia Delta Integrale Evoluzione or the Alfa 155 GTA). Mustangs need ... well ... a complete redesign to be able to properly compete on track. The only properly built Ford than can do track is the Ford GT.
The 70k Corvette you are reffering to can only be the Z06, the only track capable Chevy ever to be built on earth ;) But even the mighty Vette Z06 can't compete with the F430 on track. And, amazingly, the F430 only has 490HP compared to the 506HP of the Z06 ;)
There's another 480HP car that can take the Z06 on track, the 997 Porsche 911 Turbo. It actually beats the Z06 in drag(1/4 mile or 400m), on track, and on any other surface/race you want. Plus, it's only ~140k, twice as much as the Vette, but for good reason, and I am not talking just performance figures here.
Street racing and dragging is for boy racers, in my opinion, so I won't get into this.
Anyway, each to his own, the discussion is offtopic and I would rather not spoil the topic. We can argue on PM or IM if you like :)
http://videos.streetfire.net/mostdis...ca4af7853d.htm
This is to who ever ignorantly said civics cannot pull on freeways.
lol pms shall be sent!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandrus
Suppose depends what you define as street. Round where I live its nice un twisty and bumpy and my little 230ps "ricer" RX8 would leave your yank tank for dust, even in the town as well.....lol. Lots of roundabouts here in the UKQuote:
Originally Posted by trance565
As for value for money my Ģ1000 ZX7R will eat most things on the road and put in 11.2 standards from what I remember. Now if you add another grand to that for an old 1999 R1 your talking 10sec quarters (if you can launch the thing) and that will deffo beat most of these expensive cars.
When it comes down to ferraris there is nothing else like them. Just the sound alone is music. Its not down to value for money with exotica its about Class. You either have it or you dont.....I dont....haha
Here's a game you can play,, a little out of date, but interesting...
http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp
Sorry for the OT... maybe a mod could separate the OT posts for us?
You know, it's really funny... but I've begun to realize that car's simply aren't just about speed, going fast, and handling.
In the past 3 years, I've been all-out for the Evo. Its been my all time favorite car, I love the way it handles, how fast it is, the precision of japanese engineering. The exterior is nice too IMO (though I know a lot of people that hate it). Once every 3 months, I go to the local Mitsubishi dealer to admire it. Yesterday was one of my days at the dealer... and I've realized, that having a fast car is not everything...
Let me just give you a little info on my background... I was a firm believer in performance over looks. I've liked American cars, too... like the Mustang or Dodge... yes, they do have a lot of horses... but there are only 2 race-ready American cars that I can think of - the Corvette and the Ford GT. When someone says - "American cars are designed better than anything else out there... they are made super wide, so you can fit large tires, blah blah, blah", I cannot accept such a statement. Yes, for drag racing sure... but only the two above mentioned cars can corner well... American cars were designed for America... where highways are long stretches of straight road, and the only curve you'll come to is into your driveway. A Mitsubishi will make toast of any -Mustang, Shelby, you name it American car- on a track... on a track, you don't need horses to go fast... if you have a 200kg car, with a 100hp engine, you can go faster than someone who is hauling a ton with a 500 hp engine.
Also, a lot depends on the driver...
But back to my original feelings... so I sat in the Mitsubishi for a while yesterday... and I had a feel of the components, such as the air con, radio, etc... and it just doesn't feel right... yes, turn the key, and you forget about it all, but when I sit down in a car, I want to experience the excellence right from that moment...
So, I also visited Audi and Porsche. Yes, their car's arent as good handling and drive wise as Mitsubishi... but when you sit down in them, you feel something special... something, I can't describe... for example, I was looking at the Audi TT... yes, it weighs a lot, and won't go anywhere near as fast as the Mitsubishi... but you sit low in it, you can see that someone has taken time to design the car... everything is driver oriented... the same with the Porsche...
So, my conclusion? There is a reason why a Porsche that drives just like a Mitsubishi costs 3x the price - it is the inside, the feeling you get from the car when sitting in it... So, now I'm back to German cars... they're not only about how fast you can go... but also what you feel when you get in the car, turn on the engine, and set off...
Evo? that car is sweet. I like the honda s2000/nsx exterior the most though. But RX7 and Supra are the best lol. WRX sti is pretty leet too.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_o_S
Thats really what it comes down to. No car is the best at everything. In the US you can get on roads like US6 or US20 and travel over 3200miles (5150KM) without turning off the road, or hop on I-90 in Boston and drive clear through to Seattle 3100Mi (4988KM) without leaving the interstate. The longest road in the UK is the A1, at 409 miles (658KM), so sure there are a lot of twisty roads in the UK, but over here things were pretty much paved out in straight lines without too much thought on how fun they'd be to drive. ;) I, myself, grew up without too many highways around, so I got used to twisty and hilly back roads, and wouldn't have things any other way. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thewildblue
dos, go visit the chevy dealership, and sit in a gto, or corvette, then go to a ford dealer and sit in a mustang gt, or shelby GT 500, you will get a feeling like the one in the porche, especially if you get in the vette. thats another reason why ppl love american cars, and wide tires, help alot when going around corners fyi.
After being in those cars personally (including 06 GTO and 06 C6 Z06), at the end he would go get back in the GTO.Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
True, I haven't sat in a Z06 or a GTO (I doubt I can get my hands on a GTO here in Europe, parts would prolly by scarce)...
My next stop then is the Chevy dealership... honestly, I've never been inside, so I'm anxious to know what its like...
Anyhow, I checked out the BMW 3 Series coupe yesterday... a decent price with great performance...
I was going to get a RAV4, but the engine was ridiculously loud, so I went with a Toyota Highlander Hybrid. Pretty good car, rank 1 of MPG @ 268HP. I say Toyota have out-done themselves. Only bad thing about the car is optional accessories for the interior. I want a MP3 player-jack. CDs are outdated for me.
________
Efini Ms-6
when you get in the vette, you will think your sitting on the ground, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_o_S
They are very, very low. And the door handle is in an extremely awkward place on the C6. It took me a while to figure out where the handle was to get out - on the floor at the bottom of the door, and not on the door itself. It was pretty sleek but overall the GTO interior was far more comfortable for a daily driver type of car, far ahead of my Trans Am (which I still love though).
However the C6 has a more sporty feel.
gto is cool cause you can haul ass with 5 ppl in the car, and still look good, and beat the 4 bangers.
I hate american cars, and I think they are of low quality, because when me and my family went to chicago, we rented a ford, and the gas tank leaked gasoline everywhere. Could've died.Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
so american cars suck because a rental leaked?
Everyone rags on the rental cars :D
everyone says X brand sucks, because the one day i drove their 20 year old x model, it had x problem.
It was a ford taurus that was that very year's model. Anyways I got a bad impression of american cars, and that impression was seconded by the fact that every family that my family is close with has japanese/german cars. And they never have problems. I also don't like how american SUVs are ugly, they have no style. They seriously need to learn after honda and such. Acura/Honda SUVs have style:D
There will always be people who make wide sweeping judgements, based on 1 bad experience alone. So a Ford had a problem, nothing new there. That must mean every car made in America is low quality. Right :confused:
i'de like to see you take your honda and work it on a ranch. lol, mdx+ranch = broken mdx lol. seriously, what good is "style" if you cant put it to work? small suv's sure, i see how style can be important, as you mostly haul your friends all over, but i bet a ford can take a side impact better than a honda.
OK bud. Your spot on. That also must mean that I should hate toyotas rite? I mean a corrolla I drove a fier years back stated shaking on the highway @65mph witch took forever to get to then almost killed me and my friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
Not to mention the last accord I drove had about as much power as a lawnmower. But it wasent the cars fault it had 140k on the clock and was 10 years old. But wait, last Lincoln I was in had over 400K on the clock and still drove happily and it was 14 years old.
In any case I still believe different models have different costumer base. There is a place for everything. You believe certain brands and models are better, good for you, but personally I see you as a person who's trying to be a snob. I bet you have never even cracked the hood of you car. To pass judgment's you must know what you are dealing with and have experience with different cars and models.
At the end of the day its your choice in what you buy or use, but please don't shove anything in someones throat especially when you are full of hot air.
There are plenty sour cars to go around. By the way.. the Ford Taurus was a POS 7 years ago..I don't know about now. No company is perfect, but I think Honda has a better track record than Ford.