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nothing but good coolin n vmod :)
I've finally finished reading this thread and it has convinced me to buy an AGP 6200. I would like to buy one with 256 megs of memory, but I have a few questions that I couldn't figure out myself from reading this entire thread and the links in it.
1. Is the temperature readout mod included in the Sparkle Ultra .rom?
2. The VCORE and VMEM mods are two seperate hardmods, right? Can they be done to the 256 meg cards? Which cards can you do this to?
3. Are the 256 meg cards (assuming they are the 128bit versions) normally A2 versions, or are they more likely to be A4's.
4. Is the Sparkle Ultra .rom compatible with the 256 meg cards, also are there specific 256 meg cards that people have had success flashing and unlocking?
I'm really looking for anyone's suggestion on a 128-bit 256 meg AGP 6200 that are normally unlockable and flashable to the Sparkle Ultra rom, and hopefully the VCORE and VMEM mod. If the 256 meg version really doesn't make any difference, then I would appreciate any leads on a good 128 meg card with the same capabilities I've listed above. I really appreciate anyone's time spent on this, as I've got little money to work with, and I am desperate to get my computer working again.
I've found the following card below that is a 128 meg, and I read in this thread that people have had success unlocking it, but I wasn't sure if the Sparkle Ultra rom was succesfully flashed to it, or if it was capable of VCORE and VMEM mods. Here's the link:
Refurbished: Leadtek A6200 128 TD Geforce 6200 128MB 128-bit DDR AGP Stock: 300/550 Price: $87.50 + $1.00 S/H
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814122216R
Thanks again!
Just found this 256 meg card, doesn't seem too terribly expensive:
eVGA 256-A8-N327-LX Video Card - Retail - 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...TT=Video+Cards
stay away from the 256MB card coz they only has a 5ns memory instead of 3.6ns w/ 128MB
just go for the refurbished Leadtek, it has very2 good oc capability :)
Mine did not like the volt mod ( even after Sparkle 6600 BIOS flash ) .. anything over 1.5v or so and it would start locking up.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedfighter
Regards
Andy
my asus 6200 can handle 1,75v with water on gpu but i cant even go over 620 mhz(with air the sama allmost) , i hate that nvida throtle stuff, any help?
Thanks for the advice. I was about to get the leadtek refurb, but I waited too long and now they are out of stock . :(
I've got another question about that eVGA 256 meg card. According to the specs, it has 4ns ram onboard (http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/256-A8-N327.pdf). Would it be fairly overclockable considering that? Now that the leadtek is gone I'm kind of out of options.
That is, unless this card is any good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814122206R
It isn't much price difference above the 256. I'd rather have the leadtek refurb so I can go through the fun of OCing, but hey...
what's ur card Andy?Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
mine (Leadtek AGP) can hold up to 1.8v on water...
haven't try to raising up above it..
guys what are the best 6200 AGP and PCI-E?
Leadtek AGP. Very strange, anything over 1.5-1.55v and it would either fail going into 3dmark or after changing frequency on rivatuner.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedfighter
Regards
Andy
İ bought Leadtek A6200TD
i did 468/779
But with artifacts :(
where does your GPU goes ? i could bench it ın 470... No vmod and stock cooling...
How about yours ?
It was about 600/730 with Sparkle 6600BIOS, crappy volt mod and chilled water cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmanisali2001
Regards
Andy
Just got done with an Air-cooled bench session. Ambient temp is 23.6.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=972605
3077, my goal was 3k =)
This is with stock cooling on core and ramsinks on mem with a crappy TT case fan blowing direcly on the card.
CPU is in sig
I'm at a disadvantage only have 1x512 stick, but the value VX is donig 245 2-2-2-6 with reletively loose other timings.
Got a paycheck comming on thursday, should be getting either OCZ Gamer 3500 (just to see how it does since nobody has it, assuming my buddy can get it) or Redline. Will update when I get the new ram =)
edit: Heres the CPUZ valid i did just after the bench
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=25153
Good values :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
Could you give me Vmodding guide which you used please ?
And could you do 6600GT İD mod to your card ? İ couldnt do :confused:
İf you did, could you tell me how to do it please ?
Regards
Can I apply Sparkle 6600 Ultra bios to an Gigabyte 6200 NV43 GV-NX62128D 128 MB 300/500 ? (the same board like AlterBridge86)
http://www.gigabyte.com.hr/VGA/Produ...V-NX62128D.htm
At stock cooling I can get 550/670 and some 3,5k in 2005 and 8k in 2003 with an Pentim D 820 (2,8 GHz @ 3,6 GHz) with 80.40 drivers.
What drivers are best for overcloking ?
http://www.gigabyte.com.hr/VGA/FileL...62128d_big.jpg
It's the same card like in this pictures but mine is GV-NX62128D with 4ns not GV-NX62128DP
hey guys !!!!
Try The SPARKLE 6600 ULTRA bios....
it gives Fantastic o/c capasity.
Def bios ( leadtek 6200 ) 480/695
SPARKLE 6600 Ultra bios 580/760 :banana: :banana: :banana:
no vmod and Stock cooling :banana:
CLİCK HİRE FOR THE SPARKLE 6600 ULRTA BİOS
You could check the orb result on my Signature ;)
So 480/695 was the highest overclock that you could get on your default bios and you flashed anyways? Right now the highest I can get with my Asus drivers are 520/670, am I able to flash?
WHAT about LEADTEK 6600 PCIE and sparkle bios ?
Okay I flashed anyways and now I'm at 535/720!
I'm now hitting 8300 in 3DMark03 as opposed to 8000 at 525/670 before I flashed.
i should buy a GPU Water Blok :woot:
i am targetting 600mhz Core Clock whith the GPU block :stick:
580mhz stable with Stock cooling but it starts giving artifacts when i start 3dmark test. i thin its from the GPU heat...
but something make me confused :confused:
i heard that 6200 and 6600 couldn't be vmoded by the bios... i knowd that only 6600GTs could be Vmod by bios :confused:
Could some one help me chousing a gpu Blok ?
Should i open a thread ?
and where should i open ?
There's actually already lots of threads about 6200/6600 vmods here on the forums. I know VR-Zone had a whole write up about it.
are all these oc's done with the normal version of the card? i have a xfx 6200TC lying around but im not sure the turbo cache are gonna like overclocking.
yes i know that....Quote:
Originally Posted by JDizzle
Please read my post again.. i sopose you didnt undersatn what i said :confused:
i didnt know that 6200 and 6600 could İncrise Vcore From the bios...
İs it true ?
Could 6200 and 6600 Non GT İncrise Vcore from the bios ?
And how much Vcore could i give from the bios ? max 1.4v ? Or more ?
I would also like to know how can I do this. I supose that SPARKLE 6600 ULTRA bios has this higher voltage to the memory and the GPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmanisali2001
I've asked here if this bios is compatible with my card (GV-NX62128D) but I didn't get an answer :(
Edit:
Got this file but don't know how to use it right now. Maybe someone can help me to increase the VGPU just with an bios edit.
well i heard that this is AGP bios...
Which is not copabilty whit yorus.. but i am not sure...
You can flash whith NvFlash...
Copy NvFlash + Defaultbios + Sparkle 6600 Ultra bios to a startup disk..
Restart and boot from Floppy..
Write this
NvFlash -i0 -4 -5 -6 SPARKL~1.ROM
İ am not resbonsble about any problem !!!
I've just edited the message above. Can u edit my bios to get higher voltages,Throttling or temp monitoring ?
Wow - i didn't realize this thread was still so active..it got moved on me :P Anyways - Davos - all these overclocks are done with standard 6200 cards, the TC's are a different GPU and will not see the same insane overclocks that these 6200's do. Also, they are hardlocked at 4-pipes, so you can't even unlock it to 8 like you can with a regular 6200. I have a 6200TC lying around too and i've been meaning to try and OC it and see what happens..maybe i'll start another thread if it turns out good :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Davos
AlterBridge86 you're back. Can u help me to get more from my card. it's just like yours. But I would like software only (bios) if it is possible to rise the voltages. Or maybe another bios compatible. Are other good bioses to use from gigabyte ? Maybe an 6600 ? Or maybe GV-NX62128DP would give me more voltages ?
I've got one of the above cards - flashing with the sparkle ultra bios enables massive overclocking with no artifacts BUT the dvi port wont work! :mad:
Anyone know of a modified version of the above bios that will enable dvi on the card or of an editor so i can turn the port on myself? Or has anyone found a better bios for overclocking on this card?
Firewhite, is Gigabyte PCIE ? If so please send me the Sparkle ultra bios for PCIE cards and some instructions how to flash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firewhite
Sorry - my card is an AGP one.
Is buying refurbished bad for my prospects of softmodding the pipes open you think?
Well I bit and got an apollo 6200 128mb 128 bit, so hoping for an unlockable one.
It was refurb :( , but it was 60 bucks so I couldnt pass it up.
SPARKLE - SVGA PCI-E SPARKLE SP-PX44DH/256TC-T4 GEF-GF6200TC 128/256MB DDR TVOUTHDTV+DVI GL1.5 DX9.0
guys is this a good one???
Nope. It's turbocache.
it's better a sparkle or an asus one?
this is ASUS
http://www.chl.it/w3obj/h/default/$PRODUCTDETAILS?session=DiHkKcYq8LfoXoyVYX0OYA__&A _CODART=38921&I_CDSROOT=10618207&REP=INF
That might work, but it may be a newer core rev, so it might not. 6200's these days are risky. A few months ago it was pretty easy to find unlockable ones.
then is better to buy a 6600gt or wait for new cards...
or a 6600. I wonder if 6600LE's are unlockable.
I just built my brother a computer, got E3 venice (yay), and an apollo 6200 from the egg for 60 bucks. I unlocked the extra 4 pipes in rivatuner, so it shows 8x1 pixel and 3x1 vertex, but with this, and clocked at 400/600, it still only scored approx 6000 in 03. Any thoughts or suggestions?
Thanks
Your only hope of some better performance would be OCing that card even more so better cooling may help. I watercooled one that I have and put ram sinks on the memory. Gave me a best of 482/685 and a 6643 in 3Dmark03 with 8x1 pipes
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4083074
i have a bfg gf6200oc 256 agp and i wanna know if that card has the unlockable pipes,how can i find this out,ne1 plz help it be muchly appreciated..:)
I can clock easy my 6200 up to 525Mhz core but the memory (Samsung 4.0ns) tops at 620Mhz 2990 score on 3Dm 05 8 pipes
try nTIMINGSQuote:
Originally Posted by ianocean
to change the timings of the memory
Download Rivatuner and try it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by zaggy
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163
Run a few searches and it will explain exactly how to try and unlock masked pipes. Its very easy. Usually the NV43 AGP cores have a chance of unlocking NV44 however will not. At least thats what I have been told. I do have a A6200 NV43 A4 that does not unlock so its a hit or miss but my A6200 NV43 A2 does. Both are AGP versions
ok im back and very sad.. :( it appears i have one of the NV4A(A1,4x1,3vp) which appearntly cannot be unmasked and im very depressed about it now,i'da not bin too bad if i didnt know theres some out there that can be made better.. :rolleyes: and then i went ahead and did a benchmark with 3dmark03 in stock form and got a mealy 2217,with cant be right can it?there must be sumtin wrong.. :mad: ne way,im thinkin about goin out tommorrow and dishing out another $200 to try my luck again but at a different retailer:P
but if by some chance im stuck with this 1 can ne 1 tell me what to expect out of this card without those 4 extra pipes :confused:
well sadly i cannot find the right core ne where so im stuck with this 1 :(
ne way,im sorta new to overclocking so could somone tell me what to expect from this card and the best way to go about it.how far i can push it without upgrading the heat/fan?its currently running 375/400 stock,can it be pushed to 500/650? and is it worth flashing the bios,and how does 1 do that?
sry for all the questions im just very eager to get the most out of what i have..:)
thanx in advance
Dude, I reckon u could find an unlockable on e-bay ;). On the cheap too :) . I made the same mistake as you with an xpertvision, not minding really. But the fps really sux in demanding 3d games. Still maybe something can be overclocked to get some sort of decent use out of it?
So far it's not doing much better than my old all in wonder radeon with 32Mb ram. lmao (I must have got some settings wrong somewhere). This revision really is a poor mutilated GPU, though. Nvidia would have done better to have kept it as it was and attract the overclocking community with a great bargain.
Still, let's not despair, I'm sure the overclocking wizards will have some good advice to get something out of these.
Anyhow I'll try get some info and test some things, let's see what we can get out of these "duds".
how can i forse on 6600GT drivers? but still i want to see 6200 everywere
Hi
I've been inspired by the impressive results achieved in this thread. Therefor I've bought an Asus N6200GE 128mb PCI-E. I applied the volt mods and some extra cooling, my maximum clocks are 610/773 with Vgpu at 1,650V and Vmem at 2,775V
here ar my scores (with the rest of my system @stock):
3dmark01
3dmark03 (I'v put a little extra effort in this one ;))
3dmark05
What are the WRs in 01, 03 and 05? I find it hard to see in the ORB because of the 6200@6600 mods and so on :confused:
http://sponge.ez.pri.ee/data/media/1/8926.JPG still trying to get that :banana::banana::banana::banana: run better , and faster
soon some chilled water+ vmods
I have GB 6200 @570/775 at stock cooling :cool: . I want more, but i cant find vgpu and vmem for my card :) . Somebody can help me :p: ? Pics or something like that
THX
What model ? Mine(GV-NX62128D - PCI-E) can do only 550/690Quote:
Originally Posted by MaSell
Same model :)
I've got lucky for GB cards (look at my 6600GT core :D )
Somebody have done or have any link for vmods?
how??Quote:
Originally Posted by MaSell
i have the GB 6200 turbo force and the max with stock cooling and no Vmod
is 550/700!!
and I got 7750 @ 3dmark2003
Hi I got Leadtek 6200 TD nv43 agp too I got my sparkle ultra bios to work with dvi. The prolink 6600 bios is the same version as the Sparkle Ultra bios. The Sparkle board has the dvi on top while the d-sub on bottom and the leadteak has the dvi on bottom and the d-sub on top.
I get 585/740 with dvi on bottm out now. Forcing 6600 gt drivers enables booming and extra option in black white 2
I change the following hex in nitibar for Sparkleultra.rom
from
6397CBBDDC4E9C979097EF97FB9709981D9801100301042800 0000000300012800000002030001000000002103020283C000 000F23020080C024000F000000000000000F00000000000000 0F000000000000000F000000000000000F0000000000000030 05030402373600003F3E000051500000000000FF000000FF00 0000FF000000FF000000FF000000FF000000FF300408011096 0F0F
and
0F30040404FF000000FF000000FF000000FF00000030050702 00000030111002
to
6397CBBDDC4E9C979097EF97FB9709981D9801000300012800 000020130104280000002213010400000000F123020280C000 000F000000000000000F000000000000000F00000000000000 0F000000000000000F000000000000000F0000000000000030 05030402373600003F3E000051500000000000FF000000FF00 0000FF000000FF000000FF000000FF000000FF300408011096 0F0F
and
0F30040404FF000000FF000000FF000000FF00000030050702 00000030211002
Time to OC :D
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8827033
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4474929
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4...00orb012gb.jpg
Polish OC p0war :banana:
Poland power :toast:
Gratulacje.
Nice memory clocks ! :toast:
Try and get 24k, that would be good for the "baby" 6200.
Good luck !
Regards
Andy
23.7k 3DM01
8.8k 3DM03
3.8k 3DM05
Still at stock voltages :D . Next target - get over 24k at 2001 and 9k at 03 :banana:
mine does exactly the same, however I changed BIOS settings to 550/700 where there aren't any artifacts.Quote:
Originally Posted by marius7
BTW: mem 690 clean in ATITool :rotfl: :woot: :banana:
Congrats MaSell :toast:
Polish OC Power !! :cool:
I'm soo sad :( :( :( My 6200 artifacts @ 8 pipes :( :( :(
And my new Asus 6200GE artifacts also at 8 pipes, man i'm really pissed off now :mad:
also mine, but just a little :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DaWaN
It's not a problem if it doesn't affect 3DM score :banana:
ALTER
arghh..
i cant read any score here..
the pic links seems doesnt work here..
please, i wanna see the result.
please type in the score for 3dmark 2001,2003 n 2005
I'm benching the 6200 atm. Too bad this card can only handle 525/691 (1.47v/2.56v) even on watercooling :(
640/700, but lots of artifacting because.
voltages are 1.8v/2.72v. memchips won't go higher if I raise the volts :(
That was my experience too :(Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
prolly because they heat up to much :(
At the end of the month I could try to use it in a dice session with Blind_ripper and hystrix, but only if we have enough time :D
No, it's not because of heat :DQuote:
Originally Posted by massman
http://www.try-this.dk/6200/11.jpg (check my cooling, the heatsinks wasn't hot, no matter how hard I pushed them)
Would another bios make any difference ?
well I had a asus 6600 bios on mine, and it gave a little in mem performance because of the tighter mem timings...Quote:
Originally Posted by massman