Tony, on DFI's official website bios 1.25 is the official bios and 1.26 is the beta. Are you saying official boards will be flashed with the beta? Or is 1.26 actually the official release? Thanks.
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Tony, on DFI's official website bios 1.25 is the official bios and 1.26 is the beta. Are you saying official boards will be flashed with the beta? Or is 1.26 actually the official release? Thanks.
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heheQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
COOL explenation man!
really wanne get rid of that cooler
hope 1A-cooling reacts positive to my request for a compatible NB block :)
:D Do You all still believe in St. Clauss ???
If it only were a BIOS bug there is no need to stop release - BIOS can be flashed easily, someone here can tell the truth ???
:slapass: :cord:
Regarding to the new BIOS (126), it boost 50Mhz more for my board comparing with the old BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
The DFI boards were out for sale since 2 days ago in Hong Kong and I think they all came with BIOS dated Jan 19. The latest beta BIOS dated Jan 26 does give huge improvement in terms of RAM clocking. Managed to go beyond DDR600 which was not possible with Jan 19 BIOS while I know for sure my RAM can handle that on MSI K8N Diamond. LOL, the latest BIOS rocks!!! :banana:
Read my post m8, i just said there are component changes to be made...this is the truth. If you want to make more of it then go for it...i know the truth as I was part of why the boards are being altered.Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
As far as i know 125 is a rough and 126 was a recompile of the same bios...so how you see higher clocks i don't know :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexwai
The changes made to 125 and 126 are very important and its a must you all run these files or later when the boards hit the shelves.
The ultra will NOT ship with a SLI bridge.
Yes, it is truth and thanks for you link. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
Those boards will not have the hardware changes to make them even better....why do boards always leak out early :confused: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
on dfi-street.com:
[QUOTE]In response to questions from your Forum readers I am posting the latest info I have from DFI on the release of the new nF4 boards:
"I have just received the final revisions to both boards and DFI has not altered the Ultra design - it still includes 2 x16 PCIe slots and is still the same PCB as the SLI design. The AnandTech review is scheduled to appear on Tuesday, February 1, and New Egg and others should start receiving retail boards on Tuesday or Wednesday also.
DFI did change some 20 components on the board that greatly improves memory compatability. Testers found the initial board was very good with Samsung TCCD but not so good with Hynix and some other memories. The new revisions work well with any of the common memories in the market and the board also overclocks even better than the initial release. We are told DFI has modified all boards, so only the new revision will appear in the retail channel."QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by bigtoe
THNX for the info, but, if someone mod the Ultra board to full SLI, there should be some SLI improvement, the question is, how can this board handle full SLI potential, if the bridge is needed to connect 2 cards into the full SLI system, there won´t be any improvement at all and it shouldn´t work, right?
Or just to buy or get anywhere the SLI bridge?
:D SRY man - my eyes ran to fast, did't see that part of Ya post.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
So we're talking about hardware modifications - nothing to do with BIOS - how can I recognise if my board is a modified ?
I mean if I get a "before release board" and flash BIOS to 1.26 it will be not the same as I'd get a modified board.
So BIOS version is not the right tool to see what board I'll get.
:toast:
Don't know about that. And please don't take this the wrong way, Tony. I don't doubt you, okay? FYI: I learned from the local Authorized Distributor that the second batch of shipment is going out from DFI Taiwan today and will arrive early next week. Why on earth DFI keeps shipping out the boards if there will be hardware changes required?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
The highest FSB for the old BIOS was 280 while it is 286 in BIOS 126. All testing config are the same. I have been using A64 3000+.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Tony, if we get a board with bios 1.25 or 1.26 will we be ok? Does that mean we will get an "official board"? Anything ealrier (bios wise) means it wasn't updated? Just clarifying. Thank you,
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:confused: What about the serial number, a from - to for non official boards would help !!!
:toast:
Guys, I emailed tech support at DFI and Mr. Frank Wong gave me some good info. If you can check boards available in your area for what he states. Here's his reply...
XXXX,
Please check the bar code sticker on the edge of the last PCI slot when you receive the board. On the bottom right of the sticker, there’ll have something like R.A00, R.AB0…to indicate the revision of the board. The R.A00 or R.AB0 stands for the revision A. that’s a final release board. If it lists R.PR22 or R.PR with different #, that’s an engineer sample. We are not allowed to sell engineer samples to customers.
Frank
Frank Wong
Technical Support Manager
DFI San Jose
I want to thank Frank for his clarification. Now anyone with a board check it!
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good info.
But, I hope that's not a general DFI rule that does not apply for this specific board. You know, it was a very last minute changes, right?
Anyway, I am happy for now since I saw this on mine. :banana:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun//Picture-014s.JPG
I guess we would need DFI to tell us otherwise. But they aren't talking :stick: (except for Frank :D ). But I think you should be ok. BTW, how's yours clocking atm? I guess it doesn't matter if your performance is good! :toast:
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It's a very nice board. My RAMs are doing better on this board than any others I've tried. My OCZ VX can do 260 for the very first time. The new BIOS really gave a big boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnavarro
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...cz-vx-260s.jpg
The word i have is boards are being modified and have been for 2 days or so. So the situation is this....if you jump now and get a board with 121 or earlier bios you got an old one.If you get a board with 126 bios and the package is sealed you got a fully finalised board which is good to go. Most boards will hit the stores in a few days so again i would look for the official stores to have official boards.
If you have a board that came with 119 bios etc that will probably not have all the hardware changes etc....once you flash you will have a good board but it won't be as good as the later ones.
Lasly you must flash to the 126 bios to get the board overclocking better.
Oh, Thanks for the cold shower Tony. That's okay though. At worst, just buy another board. Luckily that is the cheapest component in the whole setup. :D
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Originally Posted by H2OGun
I thought only R.A00 and R.AB0 were the fianl ones? :confused:
I take it that anything start with R.A0# and R.B# are final. The number may indicate minor revision or something. The email only mentioned that R.PR22 or R.PR are pre-release.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Anyway, there is no point arguing about this though since we may never know the truth. I own the board already and if necessary, I will own a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th of the same board. Heck, I just spent >$1000 for 2 x 6800U. What's $150 compared to that, right? I know a lot people took a plunge with an even worse board (A8N anyone?)
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Originally Posted by bigtoe
Tony, does DFI use Winflash or its own inhouse equivalent? Or do we use the old floppy>boot>exe.>bam method?
I'm going to wait awhile before I buy a board. Make sure the initial ones are sold out so the next shipment will definately be the finalised board. I just know I will buy one and it won't be the latest. I'd be pissed.
wise wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
you can use winflash or awdflash...i flash off a cdrom now and its all good ;)
any ideas ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeachKEN
Tony, are you able to try the DXG ?
Your board maybe ok here, the 126 is a very good bios and does improve the ram overclocking.
I don't think many boards are out there that are not finals so we are probably being paranoid here.
:D What a crazy kind of panic - I never heard of something else like this.
So it's good to know we're at a point we all can identify the boards we will get - nice !!! THX all people who worked out !!!
But one question will be unanswered: Who will loose his job at DFI for sending away boards which should have never come into the stores......:cord:
:toast:
I know I am.... being paranoid that is. Tony, to get 3.5v on your VX like you stated in your tests what did you need your 3.3v rail at at your psu? Does it fluctuate or dip at all? I ask because unlike others powerstreams that seem to get 3.8+v on their 3.3v rail mine maxes out at 3.67 and even that is borderline. The psu is shutting itself down at those volts. =(. I was hoping for more to get at least 3.6v on my VX.
I thought the 3.3v-3.8v was part of the specs? Why is mine undercutting?
:confused: Hm, maybe I don't understand but why don't Ya use the 5-V-rail to get 3,6 for Ya RAM - Ya know the jumper ???Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
:toast:
Well everyone is saying it gets mega hot. If something doesn't fail at first it may down the road and positioning a fan in the needed area would be hard.
:D Nah - MOSFETS only get extremly hot if Ya use the 5-V-rail and give less than 3,3 to Ya RAM, 3,6 will be O.K.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
I use the booster on a NEO2 and pluged in my BH-5 3 days ago, they're running with 3,9 Vdimm for that time. Booster uses the same tecnology than DFI on it's boards.
Have a 120mm fan blowing to the RAM area - try to mount it with a clip at one of Ya HDD cases. I use a clip which Ya find normally in restaurants to fix the papers on the tables, that clip Ya can mount with a screw to Ya fan and then Ya can clip it at the wall of Ya HDD case.
There are two kinds of that clips - the better ones have a feather of steel in it so they can fit tighter than the plastic clips.
Try it - it works !!!
:toast:
I wonder 1 thing :
Can the Ultra-D final released mod to turn SLI ?
Maybe DFI delay the release day to modify the Ultra chipset and cant mod to SLI anymore ?
:D That might be - but if the old MOD doesn't work anymore someone will find a new........ :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
Hope so :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
But without the SLI-Bridge ( from Bigtoe ) can we still run DXG :confused:
:D Don't get mad on that SLI bridge - after a while I guess You'll be able to buy it in the shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
:toast:
nice they have improved the board for hynix ram also...properly the manufactor that listens most to testers and forums.....
@ patrickclouds is there a 2*molex >6 pin pci-e gfx card adaptor inkl...or has any1 seen any with either board or pci-e graphics card????
i have ordered a 6800GT for pci-e and it properly will need additional voltage beside pci-e .....and my psu isnt that fancy :)
newegg has one, do a search for e-power vga adapter on their site.
no sorry, there are no pci-e adatpers included.Quote:
Originally Posted by [G.N.U.]Fragman
only a molex>2xs-ata adapter you m can have a look here:
http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/dfi2.jpg
@ Patrickclouds : where did u buy this mobo ? And the stock Bios is 125 or 126 ? Thx
i bought it from hpm-computer.deQuote:
Originally Posted by xs64
and the stock bios was from 19th january 2005
Thx for your replyQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
You seem to be the first one in Germany who have this board soon :toast:
I odered one from HPM too , will report when the board coming :D
Patrick can you make a photo of the rev nr it's R.A0x or something else, thanks I wanted to buy from them too, waiting for money though
yes it´s R.A00Quote:
Originally Posted by FallenAngel
edit:
an now the pic
http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/ra00.jpg
thanks, very appreciated
EDIT: I must buy it asap, I'm really anxious...
Since it can't be found here in Spain (only pre-orders) I just ordered it from www.bytesatwork.be last night. Hope they come with good news on monday
oh man, my friend wants me to make him a computer, i could so easily sell him me 754 and get a ultra nf4, luckily he has to save money so AMR and E0 cores can come out, but i really want some new toys!
I did heard that the VX doesn't have the divider problem
with the MSI Neo4 MOBO.
But can anybody tell me if there is a divider problem with the VX and the
DFI NF4?
I just want to make sure there are not any problems. ;)
:confused: What d'Ya mean with divider problem? Using .5 multis on A64?Quote:
Originally Posted by formyfaith
This is caused by memory controller and not by RAM......... :stick:
:toast:
i get always errors, when i run MEMTEST.
the gskill 2x512 LA runs with:
200mhz at 2-2-2-5 1T --> errors
300mhz at 2,5-4-4-8 2T --> errors
i also tested with prime with 200mhz at 2-2-2-5 1T
it runs perfect over 2 hours, but the i wanted to stop that test --> *boom* bluescreen.
wtf could that be?
the board?
the ram?
or me?
:rolleyes:
:D Did Ya try with 2.9 Vdimm? Mine are running stable with that voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
BTW MEMTEST sucks - after trying several hours to get a stable setting without errors the rig didn't even boot with it........... :cord:
i tried with max 2,8 (bios option)--> 2,85real
ok i will try it with 2,9 that should be 2,93 real
but i was a bit confused, that i get errors with 200mhz at 2-2-2-5
edit:
no, with 2,9vdimm i also got errors :eek:
:confused: What revision of MEMTEST do You use? Try the latest....Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
:toast:
i´m using memtest 3.2
this should be the newest version
i´ll test the gskill in my shuttle (sn45g)
and an old corsair module on the dfi board
:D Here're two pics:Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
http://de.geocities.com/hardcoreclocker/A64Sys005.jpg
http://de.geocities.com/hardcoreclocker/A64Sys004.jpg
No problem at all - taken on NEO2 but DFI NF4 has almost the same RAM slot position.... :toast:
Have you tried one stick at a time? Could be that you have a faulty stick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
No problems here.Quote:
Originally Posted by formyfaith
OPP
Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
So glad to hear that~! :)
I love my VX ;)
so thats on the dfi right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
i saw the same thing on the msi k8n neo2 :mad: but after some bios changes i fixed it but then it wouldnt be stable above 220fsb even with 3.9v running trough mem :stick:
Where can i download the latest Bios for the SLI-D
I got the board and the stock Bios is 119 , someone can help me please ?
DFI taiwan site has them.
any word on how 2x512mb BH-5 Clocks?
id like to see 2x512 BH-5 at 3.3 and at 3.6 if someone could...
i´ve tried only one stick
the first stick passes memtest 3 times without errors
the second stick passes memtest 3 times without errors
then i tried both together in dual channel and i got errors.
so i decided to try both sticks in single channel
and voila they pass memtest 2 times without errors
now i´ll try both sticks in my shuttle in dual channel mode, if they pass , it must be the dfi board that makes the problems in dual channel mode :stick:
here you can download the beta bios ;)
which BIOS is it Patrick?! maybe it's BIOS update time! :D :D (IIRC, bigtoe did talk about improvements with RAM...)
i flashed to the newest bios 126
After reading all of this I have only one thing to say...
Thank God I didn't have the money to buy the A8N and will be able to go with the DFI!
Guys remember to flash to 126 straight away with your boards, it helps clocking a great deal.
omg, i want this board. :mad: when is zzf/newegg going to get it :(
The bios got Memtest86 build in and cpu test build inQuote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
:toast:
Hunh? You mean its a seperate program attached to the bios file. Right? I guess I don't understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
they put the cpu test in!
why not for nf3? thats still a new board
How can you guys monitor the temperature ?
I read from the smartgudian soft and it shows 39'C full load @ 277x9 1.4v
:confused:
edit : I forgot to say i'm using the Hyper6
i really hope i dont get that problem, i had it on my msi board so i sold it to go for the dfi :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
Hey guys, anyone an idea on how i can lock the sata ports for overclocking? I just received the board the day before yesterday, an if i set like 10x275MHz for example, my sata raid in port 1+2 ain't detected and the system wont boot either, just that moment windows is supposed to boot the system does a reset(system disk is on p-ata). if i disable my sata raid everything is just fine, windows boots fully normal then. I already tried sata spread spectrum in bios, but it wouldnt help...
any hints appreciated :stick:
edit: even with sata disabled i have severe problems(bios 126), cant boot into windows anymore at 10x275, i get a bluescreen saying "PFN_LIST_CORRUPT", thats kinda weird, cus my cpu will do 10x275 on any other s939 board... Memory was running at 133 and 166 dividers for testing as well, so it aint about that. 9x275 seems to boot fine...
Do we get the same Rev board as tested by OPP?
:confused: So what's going on here?
Fist everyone said that's the one and only board, then there was a bug which delayed relaese and now the first boards are out and people only talk about problems..........
So I'm not sure what happens - what about the SATA ports - on NEO2 3+4 are locked very well but which one to use on DFI NF4?
Is there an official comment from DFI?
See now the poeple maxing out this board at 270 - 280, even with the 1.26 BIOS, that's not the deal I expected.
What about OPP & OPB, did they get a modded BETA sample to reach that fantastic speed?
I think we have to talk about - many poeple spent their money to go with the new DFI and nobody did it to be disappointed at all........
I haven't the board yet but will come soon and I know that all my other components are fine, so I can compare the new rig straight away to the NEO2 and if there anything will be faulty nobody can tell me it's the RAM or the CPU......
BTW people who are on single phase 24/7 with the board in a case know what I'm talking about - it's not just funny to change mobo and finding out that rig before was even better - dealing with all that insulation and other things is not done in half an hour.......
So lets hope the best and expect the worst........
:toast:
anyone know when these boards are going to be availble in the states? ive been waiting like the rest of you guys and to keep seeing here and there people buying this mb is driving me crazzy cause i cant get my hands on one...
thx perc,
Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
xs64...does your mobo say R.A 00 or R.A 01?
:D BTW DFI said it doesn't matter - only important that it is no PR.... (pre-released).Quote:
Originally Posted by googles
:toast:
right...ok then. thanks...
:( Hm - how You all poeple think about my post #583 ???
:toast:
Hardcoreclocker :)
How are you going to cool the chipset on the DFI? Have you found a w/b that might fit?
It's R A 00Quote:
Originally Posted by googles
:D I'd send a mail to 1A cooling and requested if there will come a modded version of their NB cooler that fits.Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
BTW I'm not 100% sure that won't work, but 99%..............
So I have here a wonderful pure copper cooler with a 50mm fan turns 5000 rpm and if WC will not work I'll take this, I'll mount it on the metal stands to the mobo which I got with the WC kit with screws and the metal clip of a ZAHLMANN chipset cooler so it will be more tightened than the stock mounting with the cheap plastic pins.
:toast:
Can anyone who has a board with da new FrontX panel tell us all what exactly ya get with this one and can we add sockets from the LP NFII to this?
Cheers
Thanks :) I think I may head off to the machine shop... I guess both barbs may have to come out of the same end of the block looking at the position wrt the VGA cardQuote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
BTW I do hope DFI haven't got this wrong (in answer to your post 583). If the SATA lock doesn't work I'm ******. And 270-280 HTT is no better than my Neo2 :mad:
I was just thinking the same thing! Glad I haven't had the money ATM to jump on this one!Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
I guess the best thing is to wait for more peeps to get their hands on one and see, but with alot of people like you already running a NF4 rig it gonna be easier to pin point any problems if they do arise.
For nfoece4 chipset just be carefull cause the core is fragile like those amd xp ones. I put some neoprane on around it to give a spring like(shims) resistance which a tad higher than the core....Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/2500/chipset7zl.jpg
Are you saying the bios DOES have memtest/cpu test built in or were you asking IF it has it in?Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
I'm hoping for the initial
Thanks
The 1.26 beta bios got memtest86 & CPU test build in :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
:confused: Now You totally confused me - this looks like a large piece and I'm sure if this will fit and the GPU will have still enough space then I also can use my WC block.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
http://www.1a-cooling.de/produkte/1a...ages/haupt.jpg
:toast:
Looking at the pic in post 248, I fear that cooler's barbs/tubes may hit the VGA card..... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
:rolleyes: I also thougt so but look at pic in post #595 - how will it fit? Looks also very large and tall to me............, but DUMO says it works :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
:toast:
HCC- I think Dumo has the Gigabyte NF4 board and the chipset is in a slightly different place to the DFI :(Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
:D Ah, now things are quite clear - thanks for explaning !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
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