Its possible, the bios is a beta
Its possible, the bios is a beta
252 is all I can get at 2.5-2-2-5.Quote:
Originally posted by Mongoose420
can you test out to see if that rams good for 260~265 2.5-3-2-5? 250 2.5-3-2-5 2.8vdimm's the best ive seen out of the XL so far
Working on benches now....
tried going back to 1005.020 and it's still the same........
wtf? it started working??
and next reboot was NOT working again :(
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edit:
you can start a new thread for it... but this is an inappropriate thread for it-
charlie
And the ClawHammer thing? A bug in the version of CPUz you are using? My apologies dude.Quote:
Originally posted by misteroadster
Sorry , it's K8nsnxp 939 !! ;)
So run some benches man!:)
The lock drops the HTT transfer rate to X4. This must be some attempt to work with the stability issues they are having with the locks.Quote:
Originally posted by Mongoose420
Anyone with boards with working locks do a test for me.
Disable your agp/pci locks and and set to 1000HT check sisoft sandra to see if you have the reported 2x1000(2000 double data rate) that you should have. Then reset your locks without change'n ldt and see if you still have the reported 2x1000HT. Mine drops to 2x800 with the locks enabled.
yes you re right , i dont saw that !! yes , its probably a bug :)Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
And the ClawHammer thing? A bug in the version of CPUz you are using? My apologies dude.
So run some benches man!:)
YES IT'S OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE A8V with the BETA BIOS'es are incompatible with PC2700 sticks (even if they're BH-5 - KHX3000)!!!!
I tested one single stick of GEIL PC3700 that I had lying around and sure enough.... 2:1 (DDR400) works FINE :D
Where are you Bigtoe??? Wanna' pass that on to the BIOS jockeys at ASUS??
Guess it's time to go shopping BH5 again........ :( Or maybe OCZ "EB"
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I know the K8V had that problem. Whatever the SPD is (JDEC), that's what it defaults to. I never had any experience with it because I only used DIMMS that were programmed PC3200 or better.Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
I think there's an incompatibility issue with PC2700 sticks, even if they ARE BH-5 :D
Hopefully something that a BIOS revision can cure! Whatcha' think Bigtoe??
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Well let's see what we've got, then...
Single Channel PiFast stable @ 237mHz, 1:1 2-3-3-7, with the GEIL PC3700. Pretty decent for 2.8V. Yeah, I know the PiFast score is terrible, but it's stable enough to show that 237 1:1 with only 2.9V is pretty good. With 2 x PC3200, at 3.4V it'd probably do 260 !
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unsolder the SPD chip maybe? use a cheapie stick and give it a try :DQuote:
Originally posted by charlie
YES IT'S OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE A8V with the BETA BIOS'es are incompatible with PC2700 sticks (even if they're BH-5 - KHX3000)!!!!
I tested one single stick of GEIL PC3700 that I had lying around and sure enough.... 2:1 (DDR400) works FINE :D
Where are you Bigtoe??? Wanna' pass that on to the BIOS jockeys at ASUS??
Guess it's time to go shopping BH5 again........ :( Or maybe OCZ "EB"
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The method on Page 18 Post #5 will work.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Any word on the details of the vcore mod?
charlie gave me a connectivity between the Vcore Vreg (SC2643) and the solder point they used for the mod. There is indeed a connection between the FB pin of the Vreg and the resistor they lifted.
Start with a 100-200 ohm VR set to 20ohms and increase the resistance for more Vcore.
And a little Sledgehammer sweeeetness.
AIR COOLED, 1.65V... 9.5 x 287 = 2726.2 @ 5:3, DDR455
on AIR, hehehehehe.........
Thanks Hell-Fire, really appreciate you :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by Hell-Fire
The method on Page 18 Post #5 will work.
charlie gave me a connectivity between the Vcore Vreg (SC2643) and the solder point they used for the mod. There is indeed a connection between the FB pin of the Vreg and the resistor they lifted.
Start with a 100-200 ohm VR set to 20ohms and increase the resistance for more Vcore.
Charlie, looks like you've got a real live one on your hands
Nice. :toast: Can you run Pifast or SuperPI without errors at that speed?Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
And a little Sledgehammer sweeeetness.
AIR COOLED, 1.65V... 9.5 x 287 = 2726.2 @ 5:3, DDR455
on AIR, hehehehehe.........
I'll try a little later... it was 26C ambient....and it'd error out like halfway through a 1m Spi run.... unfortunately this time of year, even 2AM is still 18C.....Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
Nice. :toast: Can you run Pifast or SuperPI without errors at that speed?
BTW, what week is your CPU?? CAABC, VPMW right?
No, my chip says SAASC 0408RPAW.Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
BTW, what week is your CPU?? CAABC, VPMW right?
Starting to cool off in the room....
Here's 9.5 x 279 = 2652.5 @ 5:3, DDR440ish...
32s SPi, that divider is KILLIN' ME!!!!!!!!!!!! OTOH, my 2.8A Prescott at 4271mHz went 32s...........
anyone still awake??
:D
look'n good charlie. and 302HTT:slobber: once i get better cooling i'll have to do some play'n with clockgen. Whats the highest set in bios you can get to boot into windows? 275's all the higher i can set it in bios and actualy do anything in windows with
You guys are a tough crowd........
cool air rolling in the window.........
:slobber:
mostly compressed CO2 laden air, hehehehehehehe
3.1 on "C02 air" with only ~1.825v????
ignore the poor score, it's cuz the mem speed sucks....
thats just sick:worship:
omg j00 r my h3r0
:slobber:
can't believe that is on aircooling :eek:
all done :D
thawing out...
not bad considering the coldest temp I saw in BIOS was -42C and loaded at -20C
AND at an unmodded and modest 1.82v.....
so, maybe equivalent to a MachII and probably inferior to a 404/507 Prommy...
So with Cascade or LN2...........Hey Chilly1, how's my TOY doin'???
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Quote:
Originally posted by XtremepH
can't believe that is on aircooling :eek:
no, no, no........ sorry. I was just making a joke.....compressed carbon dioxide, CO2 = Dry Ice............
;)
Haha... nice stuff dude!
WTG, charlie. So are you reasonably pleased with 939?
Yeah, I think it's great!............except for the issue with PC2700/PC3000 sticks not allowing 2:1 (DDR400)Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
WTG, charlie. So are you reasonably pleased with 939?
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SPi @ 12 x 221?Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
Starting to cool off in the room....
Here's 9.5 x 279 = 2652.5 @ 5:3, DDR440ish...
32s SPi, that divider is KILLIN' ME!!!!!!!!!!!! OTOH, my 2.8A Prescott at 4271mHz went 32s...........
Greetz, Flox
I can't run it 1:1 (2:1 DDR400) because A8V doesn't allow PC3000/PC2700 rated ram (KHX3000 BH-5) to run at 1:1 (2:1 DDR 400)Quote:
Originally posted by Flox
SPi @ 12 x 221?
Greetz, Flox
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Just for kicks, I cranked up HTT. Relaxed timings and of course a divider.
http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/...CPUZ_300X8.jpg
:D very nice. if you get bored or something see if sett'n trcd=3 gains enough FSB to offset the timing change.Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
252 is all I can get at 2.5-2-2-5.
Working on benches now....
and so ... which is the best bios for the a8v ... with working agp/pci lock ?
i"ll get my fx and board next week :D
anyone running high HTT and 1:1??
And if so, what memory are you running??
I have a couple diffrent kits here but non of them wanna run over 230fsb 1:1.
highest ive gotten to was 242 1:1 with my 2x256 corsair xms3500c2pt 2-3-2-5. Only one i know of higher than that is mdzcpa at 252 with his xms XL.
I suspect soon once everyone gets locks people will be show'n off close to 260 or more with xmsXL or 3500/3700EB with unmodded boards. there will always be the vmodded boards with bh-5 north of 250~260 with 2-2-2-5 timings soon enough also. I think its a little early yet tho as its only been a week since people actualy had stuff in there hands.
Yes, my first one did constantly and only occaisionally the new one when the bios gets corrupted. It should not do this. You should see that when you clear cmos via the jumper, it won't auto start, so it something in the bios chip I think.Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
OH! and does anyone else's A8V turn itself on when you flip the PSU switch?
so now what? unlock? might have just as well stuck with the sk8v then. I guess this will all get sorted out just about the time something new comes along. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
The lock drops the HTT transfer rate to X4. This must be some attempt to work with the stability issues they are having with the locks.
uh. whats more usefull to a a board that does 275+htt. x5 ldt or locked agp/pci bus LOL . I dont think 5x ldt will be much use over 240htt anyway but its just a feeling.
maybe so. i going to be interested to see how other via boards handle this divider. I'm going to try the abit this weekend to see if it's any different for the hell of it.
Looking pretty good there Charlie!
Let us know. If the Abit works well and can be vdimm modded it may be a good choiceQuote:
Originally posted by xgman
maybe so. i going to be interested to see how other via boards handle this divider. I'm going to try the abit this weekend to see if it's any different for the hell of it.
I was wondering what the heck you meant by carbon dioxide :p:Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
no, no, no........ sorry. I was just making a joke.....compressed carbon dioxide, CO2 = Dry Ice............
From what I am hearing, I doubt it. maybe the DFI 939 boards will be winners. Someone's got to get it right, voltage and all.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Let us know. If the Abit works well and can be vdimm modded it may be a good choice
I gave the 5:3 divider another try. This is what I've gotten so far on water.
http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/...PUZ_277X10.jpg
looking good.
Sierra,
Nice, really nice for WATER!!! Wow, almost clocks like an XP-Mobile, lol
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He has an saasc. My retail is caabc. I wonder what the difference is?
I tried 280X10, but no go. :(
UPDATE on the A8V Vddr mod..........
I had thought that lowering the resistance across R422 would raise DDR Voltage, but NOOOO. I penciled across R422 and the DDR Voltage dropped from default 2.88V to 2.82V. So it looks like the resistor DOES need to be lifted and replace with VR. If I had some DDR that worked, I would do the mod today!
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look'n good. Im starting to get impatient wait'n for my v5. I figured up a ghetto AC duct with cad about a hour ago while i was bored at work and a dual duct system i may actualy make up nice to feed AC into my v5 rads. I may try the ghetto duct tonite and see if i can get 240x11 1:1 to 3dmark. Hopefully i'll also be able to puch 460/400 on my 9800xt with all that cold air. 26k all air with a r360 card would be nice.
oinnnkkk
oinnnkkk
oinnnkk...........
the Vddr mod WORKS, guys...........
HAve you got any close up pictures there CHARLIE? Nice oc btw. :)
Oh my............
tee heee........
You guys are NOT gonna believe how the mem OC's on this bad boy!!!!
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CHARLIE are you using your PC3000 bh-5? Tell us how it clocks.......:slobber:
burn baby burn? :D
what ram the pc3000 charlie?
i thought you where stuck wiht a 5:3 ratio or other??
but yeah we would like to se what the jedi can do :)
Well..........
KHX3000 of course is still no go........... I need to have my sticks re-programmed to PC3200..........
But I have one stick of PC3700 BH-6 laying around....
3.11v
253mHz............
Can't make a piccie, now that rig has corrupt o/s and I cant load Windows...........will try "r"
put the spd chip from the pc3700 stick on the pc3000 stick? ;)
Would this help instead of the vdimm mod ;)
Charlie you need a heatgun, pull off the spd chip and replace it with another or try without one..it may get you what you need.
failing that you need a ram manufacturer to reprogram it for you.
where's the SPD chip ???
and YES!!! That toy will certainly be in every one of my rigs!
ok.........o/s repaired.
Its the little 8-legged thing on one of the top corners usually.
OK why don't you put up a step by step guide with some hi res pics. Now you have made the mod tempting. Prepare for a soddering nightmare. ;)
wow! that was easy.......
too bad it didn't work :(
with no SPD chip, NO POST. And even if I replace SPD chips, I only have 1 x 3700 chip :(
Would love to, but I dont have the proper equipment to test the results..
EDIT
Darn charlie.. looks like it will be replace chips or get them reprogrammed only..
I guess the next best alternative is to buy 2 x cheep PC3200 ram and steal their SPD chips.......and resolder them onto my PC3000.
Cheaper than buying NEW BH-5.
Kingston ValueRam $46/stick for PC3200..........
What info is on the SPD chip? Info about timings or anything or just JEDEC value and mfg. name?
Charlie, are we sure that the L124 vdim mod doesn't work if we use pin 11 to ground like Kyoshen did? I only tried with ground to MB screw.
I never tried it........Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
Charlie, are we sure that the L124 vdim mod doesn't work if we use pin 11 to ground like Kyoshen did? I only tried with ground to MB screw.
I just ran a simple test:
I removed r422 with solder wick, no prob.
I tinned the pads lightly.
I set a 10K ohm VR to 2.15Kohm
I soldered the VR to the pads, no additional fixed resistor....
Increase resistance to increase Vddr
If i get bored maybe I'll try it the fancy way with a second resistor.
EDIT: Seems that if I adjust the Vddr at 3.13V+, my desktop just LOCKS UP!
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charlie why not just send the modules to bigtoe and have him reprogram them. im sure they have the equiment ;)
Well, they're NOT OCZ modules... and he hasn't offered :(Quote:
Originally posted by longshot
charlie why not just send the modules to bigtoe and have him reprogram them. im sure they have the equiment ;)
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SPD chip has namestring, default timings, voltage(?), etc.
I'm unsure if spd chips from generic pc3x00 ram would work on any stick... but it cant hurt?
So your saying that if you adjust at the deasktop from 3.11 to 3.13 you lock up right there? If you lower it fromn there do you also lock up?Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
I never tried it........
I just ran a simple test:
I removed r422 with solder wick, no prob.
I tinned the pads lightly.
I set a 10K ohm VR to 2.15Kohm
I soldered the VR to the pads, no additional fixed resistor....
Increase resistance to increase Vddr
If i get bored maybe I'll try it the fancy way with a second resistor.
EDIT: Seems that if I adjust the Vddr at 3.13V+, my desktop just LOCKS UP!
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actually I'm at 3.15, running spi. 3.16 or so is where it locks
I can run sPi at 250, 1:1..................
:D
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3.15 is better than 2.86v. I can't imagine that keeping r422 in the circuit would make much of a difference. r422 and the vr looked to be in series in the original mod. Should be able to make up for removing it by increasing the vr
Is 3.15V safe for an FX53 long term?
I would think it would be fine. Charlie, what do you have your 3.3v rail set at?
Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
I would think it would be fine. Charlie, what do you have your 3.3v rail set at?
about 3.40v
I was just thinking if you increased your rail, would be able to get a higher vdimm
No, I think it has something to do with the Vddr "circuit" that Asus employed....
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Charlie
The person i need to ask about reprogramming is out the office.
If you get the chip back on ok why not mail Kingston..OPP has a contact im sure would help you.
Tony,Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Charlie
The person i need to ask about reprogramming is out the office.
If you get the chip back on ok why not mail Kingston..OPP has a contact im sure would help you.
I hope I can get the chip back on ;)
It looks like i'm going to have to solder-wick the pads and then re-solder all 8 legs :(
Hopefully I can find SOMEONE to program it...
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Oh man! I can't believe you did that. When I read the post of the guy who said to remove it I thought he was joking. Rats!
Nice try there Charlie....Following your situation cause my bh-5 are also khx pc3000 :rolleyes:
Reel pioneer there Charlie....love your "courage" (sry for the spelling)
Actually it was REAL easy to put back on :DQuote:
Originally posted by StormPC
Oh man! I can't believe you did that. When I read the post of the guy who said to remove it I thought he was joking. Rats!
just place the chip back exactly on the pads, and take a heat gun (not to be confused with hair dryer) and heat the area, the chip like "sucked" back down on the pads, no prob.
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And it works?Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
Actually it was REAL easy to put back on :D
just place the chip back exactly on the pads, and take a heat gun (not to be confused with hair dryer) and heat the area, the chip like "sucked" back down on the pads, no prob.
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Of course :D
Had to apply a Jedi mind trick, but it works fine :D
A little bit crooked, but 99% "Taiwan spec", maybe should ask Bigtoe for a job ;)
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Bigtoe, are you planning on testing the memory voltage gizmo thingy on an Asus A8V anyime soon?Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Charlie
The person i need to ask about reprogramming is out the office.
Yeah, I want one of those now! How much?Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
Bigtoe, are you planning on testing the memory voltage gizmo thingy on an Asus A8V anyime soon?
Charlie, good deal man! Glad it worked.:toast:
I think the last ram slot on the a8v has plenty of clearance for the thingy to fit.
honestly i dont see how the current version will work on any amd dual channel board while keeping dual channel. Ive filled all 4 dimms and there is zero clearence
Another reason to go S754!:DQuote:
Originally posted by Mongoose420
honestly i dont see how the current version will work on any amd dual channel board while keeping dual channel. Ive filled all 4 dimms and there is zero clearence
Bigtoe...how do I buy one?:confused:
I'd be happy to participate in the testing. I have several A64 systems.:toast:
mongoose - The pics are of beta units.
Well obviosuly it would only work if you fill 2 slots. Ryan seems to think the current model will work on A64 and other dual ch boards as long as there is fit room.Quote:
Originally posted by Mongoose420
honestly i dont see how the current version will work on any amd dual channel board while keeping dual channel. Ive filled all 4 dimms and there is zero clearence
you have to use the blue slots 1&3 to get DC according to the manual. I With all the bits and bobs on that side of the stick, even with only 2 sticks it will be very very cramped for room if its at all wider than my sticks with heatspreaders