once you get your timings and OS right it should be consistent. There should be bugger all variation between runs
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once you get your timings and OS right it should be consistent. There should be bugger all variation between runs
I sense incoming OPA!Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
LOL nice one loud, for sure multiple incoming opas
^1000th post, best place to do it
can we all agree aida is irrelevant on haswell?
AIDA rage right here, :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing froze my setup with the only 5G run i tried at the end argh lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Big struggle with wazza tonight, ended up resorting to some old school :banana::banana::banana::banana: and got one decent bonus loop. Also had a single 5GHz run with 1384MHz on RAM with 5m56.6 iirc but the friggin bloody aida crashed the setup and it was all downhill from there. Gotta put the chip on LN2 next time and get uncore up too
Still trying to figure it out though but i'll get there :)
Dinos22 7:18:719 - 38x105.35 - 1369MHz 7-10-7-25-72-1 - GIGABYTE Z87X-OC - 2x2GB PSC - 2.05v - CPU H2O/RAM LN2
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1128/vp66.jpg
Bit of Yngwie Malmsteen tonight benching till early hours of the morning. Even wife was hanging out, dfuq!
ONE DAY THAT FENDER WILL BE MINE, OH YES, IT WILL BE MINE lol
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5742/1pxu.jpg
That's one hell of an IMC to do such PSC clocks/timings on water.
...not to be an arse, but I don't see subtimings on your screenshot, Dino :)
yeah no problem at all. not sure it's anything special. i didnt see any difference between the 3-4 chips i have sitting around here to be honest but i didnt really do this type of testing with other chips with full out LN2 runs and PSC (edit, actually i did with one more but all LN2 with ram at 1370+ and cpu near 6.6). hmmm maybe thats what im struggling with CAS6 though. i might freeze it and see how it goes
another thing, this RAM, damn it really likes cold but i'm a bit of a chicken when it comes to yanking heat spreaders off (yes they are still stock ones). It took me a good 20-30 minutes to get ram to start passing. i actually found if i run 32M while it's slowly pulling down past -100 it helped grab the cold somehow and it starts working better. this is the second time ive seen the same thing where letting it idle to get there is not the same thing as running a bench and bonding a bit better. -110 to -113 is all i managed on the sticks tonight with probe wedged between PCB and heatsink
i did put up memtweakit screen in the thread, just about the same timings man
dont tell everyone the secret bro, keep that imc positive temps for 32m is keyQuote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
Splave why don't you say what you are trying to say instead lol
Just for fun..... MFR Single Side is Fxxxing slow !! will try it on LN2.
Team Xtreem LV 2666 CL11 @ 2933 C10 1.8v
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Played with a bit of BCLK tonight just for fun expecting it to be slow!!!
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Drop tRDWR_dd..... one click
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nice one CN!
i think aida data is basically useless, everyone is on different versions, even subversions of 3.0 are high differentials, we might as well remove that requirement from the thread,
i just wanted to share some info i have harvested, a few guys have been msging me here and on fb asking about temps required for training trcd and cas, so this should give you some idea. of course depending on your imc, each individual ic and your cooling solution, this will differ, but should give you a ballpark for PSC temperatures required
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8553/ms7s.png
Also a few other things to keep in mind for first time memory subzero
* Dont worry too much about CPU on subzero it probably is not required in most circumstances, CPU on air/water should be fine for tight legacy ICs subzero, I can train/bench 2700 6-9-6 with CPU on water no problems
* Get a baseline on air that you know works but is on the edge, when you mount all your gear subzero make sure that baseline is good, this will save you alot of time
* When you are pulling down you will often need to retrain memory, sometimes around 0 degrees, sometimes around -30, but expect some not exacts as you are pulling down, going into bios and changing 1 memory timing will force retrain
* Use mrc disable when you have your settings locked in, disable mrc re-train on boards that support it, this will give you longer more reliable subzero sessions, more time benching, less troubleshooting
* Watch how much grease you have around your ram slots, if you are having issues, clean the ram with circuit board cleaner
* If you want to train CAS6 TWRRD_DR must be 5 or looser; I may be possible to train cas6 with TWRRD_DR 4, but so far I have not been able to do it
guys I'm going to upload some RAM profiles for X01 bios on TeamAU FB page, jump on and say hello :). I've gotta dig up the board and do the saves but i should have a good base profile which has RLTs/IOLs, timings etc sorted so all you have to do is make smaller adjustments and try get your sticks going. I have some PSC and Samsung IC stuff on there. PSC stuff should be similar to BBSE also.
So got a late start today just finished up doing some no waza testing.
2666 6-10-6-24
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2723 6-10-6-24:D
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and one with waza.. . . OPA!:eleph:
l0ud_sil3nc3 - 5:55.781 - 49x102.1 - 1360.9MHz - 6-10-6-24-64-1 - OCF - GSkill 2400 c8 2x2GB/PSC - 2.15V - LN2 @ all
http://i.imgur.com/CCEg26P.png
not quite good enough, but getting there.
Splavebruuuuu anointed Giga vga ftw, clearly what brought the good joojoo:sonic:
http://i.imgur.com/lT3F7Vz.jpg
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nice man, interested in the 4GHz run also!
Only ran 5G tonight but I am sure 4G will be slow as it has been with every kit I have tested.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Wish I could figure out why so slow at 4G, but at 5 everything seems fine, not sure what to think but I still have a plethora of LN2 for the rest of the week as I only burned through 25 liters for those subs.
In other news my local Fry's finally re-upped on a new batch L316xxx which is way newer than what I have been seeing floating around, hopefully some winners in this one.
First time using this board yesterday,still working everything out will test on cold very soon
Awesome time Loud :up:
bullant - 7:20.766 - 39x102.61 - 1368.3MHz - 8-12-8-28-82-1 - OCF - GSkill Pis 2x2GB/PSC - 1.93V -CPU-25,Memory AIR
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^PSC airsanity king:D
The Bull is in da house!
killing it Loud seriously dude, and looking good Jay
Very nice PSC Chips
Legit George! DAT VGA boost was no lie I tell you
Nice bullpro!
err body going hard in this thread, lovin it!
32m is just such s cool thing to do. Anyone can play it you dont need anything special to try & its great fun to better yourself ..... win win
Agreed playing with tWCL 5 today. Post up in a biTty
i've put some profiles for X01 bios on teamau FB page with testing notes as well for PSC air, ln2 and samsung ics also
https://www.facebook.com/teamauoc/posts/189201097921759
Playing with mud at work today,would rather be benching,cl6 with twcl5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
XBrytanX - 5:58:125 - 49x102.60 - 1429.6 MHz - 9-12-12-16-106-1T - Asrock -OCF - Gskill 2600 C10 (HCH9) - 2x4gb - 2.183v - h2o/LN2
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Fosco - 7:28:219 - 40x100 - 1333MHz 8-12-8-31-110-1 - GIGABYTE Z87X-OC - 2x2GB GSkill Flare (PSC) - 1.9550v - H2O/Air
http://i.imgur.com/t7gbKsO.jpg
Bump that uncore and put maxmem to 600-700 and run wazza mate
What are the RTLs and IOLs like?
40/41 and IOL 5
About to install a better tweaked xp and give maxmem and wassa a go :up:
tried setting IOLs to 4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco
Yes, but they didn`t like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Using your PSC air profil as base :D
Some average PSC for your viewing pleasure ..
XBrytanX -7:19:781 - 49x100.06 - 1333.5 MHz - 7-11-6-24-79-1T - ASRock -OCF - Gskill 2200 C7 (PSC) - 2x2gb - 2.163v - h2o/LN2 -140
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XBrytanX -5:57:516 -50x100.06 - 1333.5 MHz - 7-11-6-24-79-1T -ASRock OCF -Gskill 2200 C7
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Did some more playing with RAM. still CPU on corsair water benching past 1400 now 7-10-7. Rig got a bit unstable so can revisit, also got cas6 to start training as well. Gotta find out how high it will go.
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Love that Pic dino ^^
So had a go at 5ghz tonight second time cold memorys on this board,still trying to dial myself into board and haswell,not quite sure if I turned all power saving stuff off in bios,will keep testing .Need to sort a ram disk out this final loop is not good and maybe waza but its a start
bullant - 5:56.625 - 49x102.7 - 1361MHz - 6-10-6-24-70-1 - OCF - GSkill Pis 2x2GB/PSC - 2.15V -CPU-25,Memory Ln2 -120
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Dino try 7-11-7 :)
Nice run bulllly
this should pass man :). 7-11-7 does but its a bit slower
playing around a bit XD
tWCL 5?
http://i.imgur.com/yTYLeEf.jpg
the dank 2800 no wz time
http://i.imgur.com/HHirqaX.jpg
proper run tonight or tomorrow, got wet.
Fosco - 7:25:219 - 40x100 - 1333MHz 8-12-8-31-110-1 - GIGABYTE Z87X-OC - 2x2GB GSkill Flare (PSC) - 1.9550v - H2O/Air
http://i.imgur.com/0ySKyKN.jpg
230L delivered on friday :D
Some fun with little asrocker and some samsungs. Cold didn't really help much, just made it easier to do what I was already doing on air. Couldn't get more frequency, but helped stabilize what I was doing.
4ghz
Mikecdm - 7:19:860 - 39x102.55 - 1435.7MHz - 9-12-12-15-108-1 - Asrock Z87M OC Formula - G.Skill 2600c10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 - 2.22v - SS/DICE
http://i.imgur.com/lXStzkv.jpg
5ghz
Mikecdm - 5:58:046 - 49x102.07 - 1428.9MHz - 9-12-12-15-108-1 - Asrock Z87M OC Formula - G.Skill 2600c10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 - 2.22v - SS/DICE
http://i.imgur.com/xxAgd38.jpg
Mike killing it with the Sammies!
tRAS 15
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Rosty - 5:57:547 - 50x100.00 - 1466.8MHz - 9-12-12-19-108-1 - OCF-M - Corsair Platinium 2400 c9 2x4GB/Samsung - 2.09v - SS/SS
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/.../screen036.jpg
thanks to Splave for that nice RTL-IO guide :)
^ 2400 Platinum ownage :clap:
bought a cheap dewar on Craigslist and came home with some Dice, hows that work. Here's a 5ghz run. I did a 4ghz run at the very end and it shut down on me running aida. I think these rams need more cold.
Mikecdm - 5:57:344 - 50x100.06 - 1335.7MHz - 7-11-6-24-70-1 - Asrock Z87M OC Formula - G.Skill Pi 2200 c7 2x2gb/psc- 2.15v - SS/DICE -55
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Was messing with phone settings, here's a pic.
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Awesome run Mike:up:
This is all I have to say Mike. . .
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just awesome :up:
well this is my first submission here after testing XP with SPI32 and the G.Skill TX 2666CL10-12-12-31 Samsung ICs
4770K 49x 102.1 BOOT from BIOS on TT Water Xtreme / MEM 2721CL9-12-12-25 1T on AIR
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Cheers to all !!!
Sergio
Made a new OS & gave it a spin today... I had seen faster runs fail with my old OS so figured I'd give a skinny OS a go. At first it was all over the place but within 1/2 hour it was singing & got me into the .6**'s.
C-N- 5:57:687 - 28x178 - 1430MHz 9-12-12-15-108-1 - Asrock Z87 OCF/AC - Corsair 2666 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 - 2.0265v - CPU Water Kuhler 920 / Ram Air
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killer C-N !!! i dont have the b*lls to put my ram at 2V+ gave just 1,85Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
owikh84 - 7:21:937 - 39x102.55 - 1435.7MHz 9-12-12-21-118-1 - ASRock Z87 OCF - G.Skill TridentX 2666 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 - 2.3060v - CPU Water / RAM Air
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dropped down :)
4770K 49x 102.1 BOOT from BIOS on TT Water Xtreme / MEM 2721CL9-12-12-25 1T on AIR LB 7
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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2887169
Cheers to all !!
Sergio
Thanks to a forum member helping me with my last loop :up:
bullant - 5:56.063 - 49x102.6 - 1361MHz - 6-10-6-24-64-1 - OCF - GSkill Pis 2x2GB/PSC - 2.16V -CPU-25,Memory Ln2 -120
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Having a play with this now,see if i can make it happen ;)
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C-N looking great :clap:
Bullant nice last loop... the other loops looks fine to hehe great run
Don't worry mate Sams love it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
With a bit of tweaking you'll soon be flying & can easy shave 10+ seconds off your time
That's what I like to see..... real nice to see a post like this on here...... :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by bullant
Oh & nice time :D
Thanks Rosty :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosty
put a fresh xp on the hard drive, and take it for a spin, making som test for stability
Tweak... playing In Bloom with Nirvana... and the mem like it hehe
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Thanks for the Likes i know my scores are not so good but im trying hard and i dont know to use wazza even that some mate explained to me im just pure hardware benches
nice bully! was in newport RI for mini weekend vaca, dreaming of 32m every night :D time to go hard tomorrow
a bit better :)
4770K 49x 102.1 BOOT from BIOS on TT Water Xtreme / MEM 2721CL9-12-12-21 1T on AIR LA= 1 LB= 7
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Thanks,32M can be so frustrating at times but I think this is why we love it,just making progress and improving on our results no matter how good they are makes it all worth while.Im sure you going to have some crazy times coming manQuote:
Originally Posted by Splave
I did mange to do this run with tRAS 22 before i corrupted windows,think it may have been a bad waza run or maybe was loosing efficiency at tRAS 22,will try it again soon
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:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
hehe that's probably the most brutal voltage I've seen on air.
Testing for new bios... Finally MSI Motherboard can run properly with PSC Chip:)...
4Ghz first run.. will try to freeze some memory this weekend..
Ekky- 7:22:922 - 37x108.8 - 2594MHz 9-11-9-27-88-1 - MSI Z87 MPOWER MAX - Apacer Aress 2400 C9 2x2GB/PSC - 1.8v - CPU Air SBE-Extreme / Ram Air
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@ekky
Nice run! Glad to hear that MSI is working on with the efficiency of their board :)
Hiwa - 7:19:515 - 39x102.61 - 1436.5 MHz - 9-12-12-21-108-1T - Asrock Z87 OCF - GSKILL 2666 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 -0.96 - 2.14v - air/air
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Hiiiiiwa :)
After testing different wazza methods the last 3 days, cdt, cdt IV, standard, reverse, page file sizes, maxmem sizes and still getting random fast runs.....
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U are not bro lol, its the os u are using.
Hiwa - 7:18:797 - 40x100.07 - 1467.5 MHz - 9-12-12-21-108-1T - Asrock Z87 OCF - GSKILL 2666 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 -0.96 - 2.3v - air/SS -10
fastest samsung time ?
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this was working fine on memories, costs me 75 box for 100ml
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Just spray it on the contacts? I tried it but only used it shortly after I gave them an LN2 bath.
No Need... Spray it close to slots then run 32m no need CWQuote:
Originally Posted by tool_462
Best for today. 6-10-6 wouldn't work. Managed a run at 1390, but had the lucky 25th loop.
Mikecdm - 5:56:953 - 49x102.07 - 1362.8MHz - 7-11-6-24-70-1 - Asrock Z87M OC Formula - G.Skill Pi 2200 c7 2x2gb/psc- 2.25v - LN2/LN2 -125
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Hiwa & Mike. . .
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Are your memory prefere Givenchy? Not Gucci, Versace or YSL, nice choise )Quote:
Originally Posted by hiwa
P.S. Awesome result want to see it with 5000MHz
Tried D&G and Armani but seems good only with Givenchy one and only PI
5G needs cold.
Tried some CW
Some trick for you guys
CW CD 1GB .RAR 1Sec SLOWER
CW DC 1GB .RAR .500 Slower
CW CD 1GB 3d01 Folder 0.300 Slower
CW DC 1GB 3D01 Folder 0.200 Slower
then i tried +80Mb 2X3D01 and tried again always slow ( CD or DC ) one time Copy
best CW 31 X 3D01 DC was the fastest run .... CW 52 X 3D01 DC same result but higher ARM with more stable loops and a little bit slower last loop
About maxmem 600 to 700 ... 640 was the best with 31 X 3D01 CW DC
600 was the best with 24X 3D01 CW DC
with the CW i used for fastest run as you can see very fast start first 5 loops are nice after that 5 to 10 are slow then again very fast to 20 and then again slow and good last loop
best run was with created .bat file and not manually copy
here is a good guide for PI in italian
http://www.nexthardware.com/forum/ov...-5-tweaks.html
and here is youtube video how to run CDT if you want try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPhmuUlzDDA
Yes! :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by hiwa
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7709945600/h8AAA82DD/
John Lam - 5:58:922 - 50x100 - 1400.00MHz - 9-12-12-18-108-1 - ASROCK Z87-OCF - Team 2600mhz 2x4GB/SAMSUNG - 1.96v - CPU AQUA/RAM AIR
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Team 2600 getting a spanking :D
^^^^ HKEPC Pi Analyzer...... thanks :up:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...yzer-0.9.6.222
C-N, If you got any problem on this tool , feel free to let me know. :D
@John: WinXP or WinFLP?
Still XP SP3 not FLP...Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
HeHe god one Hiwa ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by
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No need to tickle mine with fine fragrances just go hard & she always gives a happy ending :rofl:
C-N- 5:57:594 - 28x178 - 1430MHz 9-12-12-15-108-1 - Asrock Z87 OCF/AC - Corsair 2666 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 - 2.0265v - CPU Water Kuhler 920 / Ram Air
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C-N :shocked: and :clap: great score dude
trying 5G with sams on Air
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@ Hiwa are you cold on the chip?
From my air testing & what I've seen fail I reckon 5m57.4** should be doable @ 2860. I dug out my old SS the other day all fired up to give it a spin but couldn't find the mounting bolts!!! I'm interested to see what you can make at 2860, this might even fire my lazy a** up enough to get my chip on cold.
Here's another slightly better run... it faded a tad but shows there's still more evil in the woodshed!!
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...os/5m57578.png
CPU under SS -10, ram Air here, if i want run 5ghz uncore i need colder cpu.
57.5XX is possible here, seems 178 is faster?
CPU just a little cold then... your IMC likes it hot or that's all you need to get 5G uncore to run? either way its a nice chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by hiwa
178 gained me a tiny bit .100 ish probably just because the clock speed went up 1mhz
i think 0 degrees for the cpu is enough to run. colder IMC working better here.
this can be 57.1XX for sure ...
CPU air ... RAM SS -10
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5G 1:1 @ 1.28v..... nice one
vcore can be easy 1.22 :D
Back to my Rulz 31X 3D01 CW DC one time
Hiwa -5:57:016 - 50x100.07 - 1467.5 MHz - 9-12-12-21-108-1T - Asrock Z87 OCF - GSKILL 2666 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 2.3v - air/SS -10
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ViD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXAPs...ature=youtu.be
Knocking on the door of 5m56!! Awesome mate :clap:
P.S. Fix your text line 50x100..... or you could fix it in a minute when you break into 5.56 :D
56 is possible at 1475 ...
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John Lam -5:58:875 - 50x100.00 - 1400 MHz - 9-12-12-18-108-1T - Asrock Z87 OCF - Team 2600 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 1.95v - aqua/air
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owikh84 - 7:20:718 - 40x100.06 - 1400.8MHz 9-12-12-15-108-1 - ASRock Z87 OCF - G.Skill TridentX 2666 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 - 2.085v - CPU Water / RAM Air
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Got a tad better with Olive Green theme but still can't reach 7m19s
Have you tried tFAW 24-26 owikh84
it may improve your time.I notice some people running tight tRAS and tight tFAW,then some running loose tRAS and loose tFAW