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Sorry for the slow reply Sergio...... I now have my IHS glued back on but can say I did not notice any die damage at all in the month or so I had my chip with the loose IHS & LM.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
The die is much more resilient than you may imagine..... as I understand it the majority of what we see is just a big blob of silicon & the business end of this where all the transistors are is at the bottom of this hence just like in the AMD Athlon XP 2500 days you can get away with knocking the edges off & it still works.
Thanks C-N i kow the die is resitant as i scratched one and still working :) but as im lazy to take out mobo again and put the chip i do it with the mobo in so while im installing the chip to hold it i have to use finger and of course the IHS dances over the die :) till the bracket can hold it thats my concernQuote:
Originally Posted by C-N
This is why I glued my ISH back on.... I figured the amount of times I had the chip out of the socket & had to fiddle about to get the IHS centred properly annoyed me. Sometimes I had to do several re mounts to get even temps so I figured get it right & glue it back on & that'll be the end of the drama. Besides its easy enough to cut it off again anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Decided to glue it onfrom the beginning. Much easier to work with, especially if your board is in a case.
Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
thanks mates what glue u used a light one ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
I used black Polyurethane adhesive mastic..... think it was Sikaflex as I have access to it at work. This stuff sticks better than s**t to a blanket :DQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
well i dont have that maybe i use a common one just to get fixed in place, i dont want to use epoxy based cauz then it will be impossible to take outQuote:
Originally Posted by C-N
what can people run in 3Dmark Vantage after mod ? 2D is quick test
my can almost achieve 5GHz on water without mod in vantage
??? i can why not ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
this is at 4.8HT tough 2800 CL11 my 24/7
http://i.imgur.com/17S5z.jpg
I have little mem problems at the 5GHZ = the bandwidth on my mem,here is 5GHZ an vantage AMD HD7970 1360/1750 home mod GPU block from old XSPC Chipset block,an no mod whit the cpu,I use watercooling
there is a big jump whit vcore from 4.8 to 4.9 an 5GHZ ;)
This is not my best score
win 7 64BIT Ultra no tweak,is a gamer pc/oc
http://imageshack.us/a/img11/4743/vantage5ghzp.jpg
yes the bump starts on some chips at 4.9 to 5 or some at 4.8 to 5Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
my cards on air, cpu water, no tweaks at all also will shoot a 5GHz one
it would be nice to see a little 3Dmark tests, instead of all the 2D test, to see how much more it can now also provide, as 3D requires a bit more of CPU :)
also to hear about tempen keeps all the way home
here u go Martin same all on my 24/7 settings
http://i.imgur.com/hapOE.jpg
can see we use the same vcore at 5GHZ
Sergio, are you running 1.5Vcore 24/7?
About 2 weeks after IHS MOD
Same ambient temperature,same test
4.3 Ghz - 1.10 Vcore
Attachment 130763
Core 1: 60 °C
Core 2: 65 °C
Core 3: 65 °C
Core 4: 58 °C
Improvements: temperature are finally stabilized,vcore needed to be stable is less
FOTO an vantage an nice temp,no mod on cpu 5GHZ I use 2x360 radiator form XSPC RX an 1 TFC 360
http://hwbot.org/image/855325.jpg
I see this on spanish forum...yes hurt !
3770k Rest in peace
Attachment 130853
Attachment 130854
I opened a 3570k yesterday that had a zone on those large pads of the IHS that was really really hard to open. Once open I almost :banana::banana::banana::banana: myself in the pants it had a huge marking on the PCB under that pad zone. It couldn't have been me with the blade, no way I could have done that. That pad zone wasn't flat as it should and I think it might have been intel doing when assembling the IHS at the factory. I just couldn't get my mind in how did that CPU work with that mark... but after all it indeed work when I put it back into the motherboard :O
Delidded my 3770k using CoolLaboratory Liquid Pro.
Just used an exacto blade and som alcohol as lubricant and had the lid off in about 15 minutes or so.
No too hard if you are careful!
Pretty much a 40C drop. I am using it between the IHS and the die as well as teh ihs and the waterblock. 5.1 ghz right now at 1.45V max temp running Wprime is 63C. Intel burn test maxes out at 73 on the hottest core.
1.5GHz @ 1.45V isn't worth delidding , mate...:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbster1966
I bet you meant 4.5GHz....
What were your temps before ? You should be running 100C for that difference to make sense...Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbster1966
??? no i was runing on a 3570K offset with 3000IMCQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
im runing now a 3000IMC 3770K at 4.8HT @ 1.35 loaded 2800CL11 GSK TridentX :) using OFFSET
wow pretty high temps for such low vcore and 17C temp mateQuote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
also linx runing low mem not ALL
great martin now i know that at 5GHZ i will break 50K :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
sorry i meant 5.1ghz.
Before i was bumping off of 100-104C....
now 62-63C.
I can now do INtel Burn Test at 4.9Ghz @ 1.344Vcore
I think they are good considering the hot days they do here in Buenos Aires (it's spring), I can see a screenshot with the same settings at 4.3 and 1.10 vcore?,in your system to see how much is warming my 3770kQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
thanks buddy :up:
Yes i know as we have same temp here but what im telling considering the methods most ppl that are here live in cold places, i have the liquid pro here and very doubtful to aply it cauz im afraid all the job for nothing...Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
u can leave it rock solid at 1,325 BIOS with ULTRA HIGH LLC at 4.8HT i tested your batch or use OFFSET wich is better at +0.115 ;) try it and report back
Thanks to you for the reply
Cheers
Sergio
The results i have seen dont lie. If I run the same before and after. I see a measured 40C temperature drop with the same Vcore and speed.I picked up only a few extra Mhz, but was able to do it at lower voltage.
yes i know but after some month you will see temp increase some ppl reported that also maybe with liquid dont happen but with other tim yesQuote:
Originally Posted by kirbster1966
Well after all guys i have to tell you that i resisted to use liquid ultra cauz basically i though it was the same as using MX2 or MX4 or whatever tim
i want to thank hersounds, C-N, Zeus, kirbster1966 and all the guys who answered my questions and show me the method
Today i couldnt belive my eyes really i even remounted CPU cauz i tought somthing was not ok
ALL TESTS SAME AMBIENT TEMP
http://i.imgur.com/A8i1j.jpg
this is the BEFORE with IHS removed and using MX2 at 4.6HT@ 1.336 LOAD and 2800CL11 mem
http://i.imgur.com/wpzeA.jpg
this is the AFTER with IHS removed second time with liquid ultra at 4.8HT 1.360 LOAD and 2800CL11mem
running...
http://i.imgur.com/tLDyu.jpg
passed...
http://i.imgur.com/egjZX.jpg
U can see the amazing drop on temps i just cant believe it but its true
And here the process
chip with MX2 inside and out
http://i.imgur.com/bTnoK.jpg
IHS removed it was already loose
http://i.imgur.com/2wYNU.jpg
ALL Cleaned ready to take the new liquid ultra
http://i.imgur.com/s2AxO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oypDw.jpg
Starting the job with liquid...
http://i.imgur.com/mJZAO.jpg
Finished :) CPU glued with light UHU cement on 2 points only just to make easy the mount inside case without taking mobo appart
http://i.imgur.com/6pTbE.jpg
some more pics for fun :)
http://i.imgur.com/BFWlj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/13TyE.jpg
hope you guys like and benchers go ahead use this its so amazing :yepp:
REAL WORLD aint this amazing ? :up:
http://i.imgur.com/Kc8BK.png
I know, in a hobby where we like to think a 5C temperature drop is a victory, 40C is just crazy!
Awsome sergio
Thanks man i still cant believe it lolQuote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Good work my friend as i say Phoebya LM was the way!
and relax! the temps drops even a little more with days and weeks of use....don't care for that, just think that you and me ( Argentina/ Uruguay ) we're starting fight with hot days ,is spring and summer is coming
Hate to say it but i told you so. :D Liquid metal is the way to go mate. Totally awesome result but did you use a flexible adhesive?
Really impressive andressergio :eek: Congratz and thanks for the good work :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
yeah man u told me but no one showed how to apply the liquid over die so i was kinda doubtfull but its an impressive one thanks !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Thanks Olivon how are you ? Glad to you u guys like itQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Cheers to all
Sergio
If you can show me something 3Dmark vantage ...... at 5.1 or 5.2GHz then you can also get me to play with my cpu andressergio
fo shoo mate i will :up: but only 5GHz i wont push volts in vain to this great chip vantage i a well known CPU killer/degraderQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
Can you tell me if before this MOD you could run at 5Ghz ?
Or what was your max bootable clock at before the MOD ?
Sure mate i can boot 5GHz at 1.35 HT and stable GAMES hyperpi etc at 1.448Quote:
Originally Posted by Counter CS
But 4.8HT At 1.35 with mem 2800 is a nice sweet spot right ?
hi! sorry, but i am asking before this MOD was done, if it was possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
yeah this is a 3218B one of the best batches i ever seen but i always mod my IVYQuote:
Originally Posted by Counter CS
first i tried no mod but temps where hi
then modded with MX2 but after a month temps returned high again
so...
i decided to to what you saw and im still shocked :)
u just need a good batch to be stable at 5Ghz HT and of course this mod with this liquid with help you man its 40C its like unthinkable but true :)
Cheers man
Sergio
Thank you.
I asked that because i cant boot at 5ghz cooled with H80 corsair.
And was thinking, maybe doig this mod it would do 5ghz ... not sure.
what vcore are u using and what LLC ? mostly u will need extreme LLC and over 1,45 for 5GHz if its a normal batchQuote:
Originally Posted by Counter CS
you have PLL internal ENABLED ?
Look at this guys i
i had more images to show but i lost my raid :(
i was primming at 55C all the time max at 56C
now today its almost 27C on my room and look this :)
http://i.imgur.com/leFfa.jpg
5GHz HT offset +0.195
http://i.imgur.com/E43m7.jpg
Stop posting these...we're increasing humidity in our places with drooling...:p:
Hey guys becareful with Vcore seriously go 24/7 more that 1.30 can degrade your Ivy really...
- don't use more 1.30 vcore for 24/7
- don't use more 1.30 VCCSA
- don't use more 1.30 VCCIO
- use CPU PLL as low as possible
And you have a healthy Ivy ready for bench when you want.
On topic: before IHS mod i can use 5 Ghz but need more vcore and temps are highs...now two weeks beyond of ihs mod. I can use 5.0 Ghz with 1.40 vcore
Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
It all depends on the chip i runt my 3570k at 1.5 loaded for 2 month with offset and still runs perfect
Lol next will rain and i will post 80%Quote:
Originally Posted by felix_w
Ivy will not degrade like Sandy was & more resilient to degradations.Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
On Sandy, just avoid putting vCore above 1.5v and stress it on water or regular watercooling.
@ sergio, isn't yours Phobya LM? I think you said Liquid Ultra :)
I'm using Ultra and curious how does it comparo to LM
+1 for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
yes im using Phoyba wich says liquid also
but amazing results huh ???
duno if i posted before...Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
3770K @ 5.0GHz HT 1.44v
ambient: 35C
IHS off + Arctic MX-4:
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q.../IVY/507gb.jpg
max idle: 41C
IHS off + Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...0linxultra.jpg
max idle: 44C
seems the Phoyba does the job very well over the original liquid ultra ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
I used the liquid pro from cool laboratory. It has a better heat transfer than the ultra.
Assuming this is without heatspreader back in place?Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
You sure you had a good mount with the Liquid Ultra?
So you say that pierdnoel is wrong? ( a.k.a DRWHO? ) ...ok! yes buddy go ahead!... put up your Ivy up, in a few months we can bench, and tell me later.Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
Good to hear that. I've ordered Liquid Pro last week & hopefully getting it this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
yeah Liquid Pro is supposed to have at least 2x the thermal conductivity of Liquid UltraQuote:
Originally Posted by kirbster1966
CL Pro = 82w/mK
CL Ultra = 32 or 38w/mK
IX = 20w/mK
PK-1 = 10.2w/m -c
everything else is less
yeah bro IHS is removed. I think no issues with the block mounting,Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
I got 6-9C higher if running with IHS installed.
i benched the crap out of several ivy 3570K with 1.3 SA and 1.2 vccio,but not above 1.45 vcore as i did not get any improvement,5 ghz was with 1.45,5.1 would not work even with 1.55. all cpu's are up and working as in first day.It is pretty hard to kill ivy bridge using only mobo,unlike SB where you pop VCCSA with 1.5V and voila :)
^ +1
SB-E is even worse, or the worst degrading chip.
The first day you put 1.45v for 5GHz, run several 3D benchmarks.
Not even torture it with stress tool eg LinX/IBT/Prime95, the chip needs 1.55v after a few days.
3x 3930K & 1x 3960X all degraded on me
Today i delidded my cpu. It was dead easy. I used Phobya LM on die and Phobya HeGrease Extreme between IHS and cpu block. I booted the pc just to see that my temps were ONLY 5C better than before while crunching at 4.42ghz @ 1.2v Max temp Before Delid 83-84-83-81 and After Delid 79-79-79-77. I dont know what i did wrong and only have such a low drop :(
1. I delidded
2. Cleaned all the original adhesive (black stuff) off of IHS and PCB of CPU.
3. Lightly sanded bottom of IHS (the lip that contacts the PCB) with 600grit sandpaper.
4. Applied LP to die (very very thin coat)
5. Applied LP to underside of IHS where it would contact die (very thin coat).
6. Installed IHS on DIE and clamped into motherboard with standard retention mechanism.
7. Applied LP to top of IHS - thin coat
8. Mounted waterblock (XSPC) using standard mount.
9. Enjoyed temperatures 40C lower than before.
Not sure why others dont see the same.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Well me neither mate you saw mine dropped 40C with that and 12C with MX2Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbster1966
i used the liquid on both die + IHS inside a bit + cpu block also...
I did exactly the same. Except part 3 and part 7. i used HeGrease Extreme instead of LM on IHS. I thought 20c drop would be easy, if not more. What waterblock do you use? Raystorm?Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbster1966
Did you remove all the black glue? If not, this may hinder good contact. Pretty sure you have a contact problem, never seen as little as 5º drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Yes i did remove all the black glue the best i could. Do you think its a die-ihs contact problem or a ihs-cpu block? Do you think lapping the IHS lip that contacts the PCB would help any, like kirbster1966 did?
Well, the best you can do is take the cpu out again, remove lid and clean everything. Then just lay the heatspreader on top of the die without any tim. The ihs should "float" on the die. If the ihs lip rests on the pcb, lapping it would be a good idea. If not, just reapply LM and carefully mount everything back in postion.
Using XSPC Rasa.
Hi all! I decided to repost my results here from Anandtech (where I go by the username Yuriman).
To begin with, my system is as follows:
3570K
ASRock Z77 Extreme4
2xHD4870 Crossfire
WC loop - Apogee GT on my CPU + MCW60 on GPU1 + Black Ice GT 360 (3x120mm) rad + Laing DDC w/modded top (1/2" intake)
2x 4GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3 1600 1.25v
Intel X-25M G2 80GB
BFG LS 680w
+ some other stuff that isn't terribly relevant to this post.
Throughout most of my testing, room temperature has had little variation. When I say "Prime" I am generally referring to Prime small FFT testing done for at least 5-10 minutes to get my water temperature up to peak. Voltages are all the lowest drooped voltages (ie under Prime or Linpack) as reported via CPU-Z. Temperatures are all reported via CoreTemp or RealTemp and are taken after the paste has had at least 24 hours to cure.
To begin with, my chip seemed to be one of the worse Ivy Bridge i5's. It needed slightly above average voltage to hit a given clock and had well above average temperatures. After reading Idontcare's post on Anandtech I decided to delid my chip and see if I could improve my temperatures and/or lower my operating voltage.
http://imageshack.us/a/img207/5984/i...0929233651.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/3654/i...0930000224.jpg
Before delidding, I had been using Phobya HeGrease between the IHS and my waterblock, a compound that reviews generally agree is among the best non-metal pastes. I had the following temperatures loaded with Prime Small FFT at a room temperature of approximately 25c:
4.4ghz - 78c (1.192v)
4.6ghz - 89c (1.304v)
Post-pop Prime Small FFT temps, with the IHS remounted over the die (secured in place with the stock processor retention bracket) and having replaced Intel's stock paste with Phobya HeGrease, I had the following temperatures:
4.4ghz - 79c
4.6ghz - 94c
^
Temperatures actually got worse after replacing Intel's TIM with HeGrease. Seemingly, my temperature woes were not a result of either excessive gap or poor thermal compound used between the IHS and die, which were the two leading hypotheses on Anandtech for high temperatures on Ivy Bridge chips.
I decided to check the flatness of my waterblock's base and the surface of the IHS, and discovered that the IHS was more than a little concave. I thought about lapping the IHS, but lacking sandpaper I decided just to mount my waterblock directly to the die.
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/5728/i...1001232307.jpg
^ Initial temperatures right after delidding and mounting bare-die, before TIM had a chance to settle in. Due to increased temperatures I had to increase voltage to get stable.
24 hours of cure time later (after my bare die mount), my Prime temperatues dropped to around 4c below where I had been before delidding (78c -> 74c). This still seemed very high for a bare die mount, so picked up some sandpaper and went at my waterblock.
Before:
http://imageshack.us/a/img4/7804/wb0q.jpg
After (1000grit max):
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/3517/wb2g.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img694/2882/wb3n.jpg
Lapping my waterblock brought my load temperatures down to 71c at 4.4ghz, and down to 84c (from 89c before delidding) - I was again stable at 4.6ghz. IBT load was down to 91c from 98c before delidding (~1.3v), but this still wasn't anywhere near the results I wanted.
I ordered some CoolLaboratory Liquid Ultra, and applied it:
http://imageshack.us/a/img209/893/img20121025203346.jpg
Which brings me to where I am now.
Prime loaded -
4.4ghz:
78c unmolested
71c lapped WB + bare die mount
61c using CL Ultra instead of Phobya HeGrease
4.6ghz:
89c unmolested
84c lapped WB + bare die mount
70c using CL Ultra
4.7ghz:
?? unmolested
100c lapped WB + bare die mount
78c using CL Ultra
IBT loaded -
4.6ghz:
98c unmolested
91c lapped WB + bare die mount
77c using CL Ultra
______________
I hope this is useful!
Hi all, Just thought I'd let you know I got another 10oC off my roof chop/LM 3570K changing cooler from the single fan Antec Kuhler 620 to the twin fan 920. I got the 620 free & thought it was quiet & good for what it was worth (about £40 here in UK) I figured I'd BUY another one for my work PC to replace my loud air cooler however when I went to order it I decided to pay a bit more get the 920 & use the 620 at work. I'm now real glad I ordered the 920.... for a single RAD all in one cooler IMO its a great piece of kit for the money.
Ambient 19oC
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...452400Test.png
Almost four weeks after ihs mod
This time with last Bios 1309 - Maximus V Gene
4.3 Ghz - IBT running - 1.064 Vcore load
Attachment 130974
4.3 Ghz - IBT finished stable - 1.088 Vcore Iddle ( 1.095 Vcore on bios)
Attachment 130975
Core 1: 57 °C
Core 2: 60 °C
Core 3: 58 °C
Core 4: 52 °C
Improvements: the temperatures continue to drop and chip consume a little less Vcore
4.3 Ghz - Cinebench running - 1.072 Vcore load
http://thumbs.subefotos.com/b1e198dd...8bf29895co.jpg
4.3 Ghz - Cinebench Finished stable - 1.088 Vcore Iddle
http://thumbs.subefotos.com/15eacac3...b60a3ad5co.jpg
Validation cap
http://thumbs.subefotos.com/ba7973fb...746b4fa1bo.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2563679
@hersounds
you got a good chip and excellent improvements in terms of temperature
:clap:
Ambient is 18C indeed ? Or different in your specific location ?
18C outside...24C/26 C inside room buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by felix_w
Finally success. Crunching for more than ten hours atm at 4.6Ghz@1.28v and have not passed 50c, hovering between 45-48c (21c ambient). Cant be happier :D
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
You can always have your door open to cool your CPU more :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
Apart from joking, your cpu seems to be exceptional...
What did you do finally ? Did you lap the IHS lip, or just change paste to something better ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Thats nice hersounds the real proof for you and me on this side of the world when u have 26C out and 26C in wich is a big dif than have 18C out and 26C inQuote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
well summer came from one day to the other 34C outside !!! 28.8C inside my house
before the liquid pro i would have passed 100C easy
incredible how this dropped
http://i.imgur.com/6oNoX.jpg
I need 1.36v for 4.8Ghz, almost the same chip :P For me winter came yesterday, room temp 18.8c :) Folding at 4.7Ghz@1.32v at 45c :)
great mate !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
That TIM worked out great between my 3570k bare die and DT Sniper water block. (NO IHS)
Great TIM. It is hard to clean off.
I saw that , i wanna test this ( liquid Pro ) to compare between Phobya LM that try beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5
Going to build new watercooling this week and i?m planning to do this mod on my 3570K. The only thing i can get quick is COOLLABORATORY Liquid Pro , will it do a good work u think? Should i just place a small piece in the middle of the die and then work it out until it covers the whole area? Looking forward to tempdrop ^^
Lapping + Liquid Pro
http://www.firegoon.com/images/mhde83g.jpg
http://www.firegoon.com/images/gnrjwik.jpg
Cinebench Stable 4.8 - 1.32 Vcore
http://www.firegoon.com/images/a3h1951.jpg
IBT stable 4.8 - 1.34 Vcore
http://www.firegoon.com/images/rsrmj46.jpg
5.106 Mhz - 1.44 vcore - 4 Core 4 threads
http://www.firegoon.com/images/curfh4z.jpg
Now i can boot and enter to windows 5.0 Ghz with 1.35 ( bios) 1.36 vcore windows but i can't get stable... how much vcore i need plus to get stable? any idea? and any others settings to get attention?
Hersounds did you get any lower temps using LP over LM?
Succesfully killed my 3570k, i got a tiny scratch and i think it was it. Now getting Code 55...Ordered a new one :)
Is that a memory code? Because if it is, don't give up yet. I have personally had this problem with a delidded Ivy and saw a couple others with the same problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by ante_ante
For most chips, remounting solved the problem. I think it has to do with uneven pressure due to a small alignment problem.
Don't worry to much about a very small scratch. I have seen horribly misfigured chips on overclock.net with the gold traces bare that still worked fine.
Well tried several times to remount, have tested on my son motherboard to. Tried to change to mx4 but nope...Here?s some pics, looks bigger than irl
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6...1112141112.jpg
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http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6...1112141143.jpg
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EDIT: Not fully working i think, but got it booted on sons board but only with 1 stick in slot 4. So something has happended related to mem but it will do fine is his computer :)
Yes, but remember is Spring / summer time here on Buenos Aires...so relax,temps are really really good...I think in Fall/Winter Again this Chip rocks!Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Take it easy, i Have Code 55 too & Code 23 ( some weeks ago ), I can solved changing rams sticks of placeQuote:
Originally Posted by ante_ante
Put on your IHS again. Might be bad mounting if without IHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by ante_ante
Code 55 is definitely memory related. I've been binning 10 sticks of samsung ram and I get it 30+ times a day while testing :)
My maximus gene v + 2500K and dual channel works, when i pop in the 3570k only single channel works. The 2 scratches i manage to do must have something with mem to do.....
Not a good comparison but seems that Liquid Pro is just slightly better than Liquid Ultra.
Liquid Ultra:
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...VY/linx7hr.jpg
* LinX for 7 hours with MVF
Liquid Pro:
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...k/LinXcrop.jpg
* LinX for 1 hour with OC Formula
Both tests were done without IHS and ambient temp @ 33-35C
Fellas, I delided my 3570k. I just have some CM thermal fusion on it now. Load temps are about 5c lower. I plan to get some liquid pro, one question I have does the liquid pro cure/harden?
I would really like to have the heat spreader stay in place as I regularly move CPU's from board to board. I know I can simply glue the HS in place but I'm also concerned about the life of the liquid pro.
I don't want to glue the HS back down If the liquid pro will need to eventually be replaced.
Hmm? Perhaps I should use some super thin double sided tape
I got a code 55 when I mounted my delidded 3570k with CL LP TIM. The chip wasn't dead I just had to get the right pressure on the mount to get it to work right.Quote:
Originally Posted by ante_ante
It scared me though. The trick that worked for me was adding a layer of CL LP on the block area making contact with the die. I used the same liquid pro from the die... just rubbed it over and then gently mounted it. With CL LP TIM you don't need much pressure. I got the mount down now and I have no errors 55 and the chip is running the best it ever has. This is an early chip batch that I got at release day. It ran very hot till I delidded it.
I also added some Fujipoly Extreme thermal pad around die (.5mm) for support and to help cool. It's the best performance I have had so far.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1351239711
No IHS. Direct contact between die and DT Sniper water block.
Mounted
http://minidriven.com/BlacknBlueforI...mOUNT3570k.jpg
using a EK TRUE 115X back plate for stability.
http://minidriven.com/BlacknBlueforI...teDTSNIPER.jpg
Ambient Temps 18.6C
IBT quick and dirty standard run
5GHZ@1.37v
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2578924
http://minidriven.com/BlacknBlueforI...BTSTANDARD.jpg
Idle Temps
21C 24C 21C 18C
Maximum Temps
62C 70C 67C 62C
Looks like my delidding experiments have lowered my average temps per core bv 31.25C on my 3570k.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/o...#post_18599015
That is a huge decrease in temperature IMO.
Cool, maybe should try that out with thermalpad. Any idea where i can get it in europe?Quote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5